Eastern Oregon Bear said:He gave Pelosi one day to vacate the office space while she is in San Francisco for Feinstein's funeral. Nice. So much class.BearHunter said:
Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., was evicted from her private Capitol office by the new speaker pro-tempore.
tequila4kapp said:It was not nice. She earned the treatment, then some.Eastern Oregon Bear said:He gave Pelosi one day to vacate the office space while she is in San Francisco for Feinstein's funeral. Nice. So much class.BearHunter said:
Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., was evicted from her private Capitol office by the new speaker pro-tempore.
chazzed said:This would work nicely as a New York Times Pitchbot tweet.BearHunter said:
Today was a sad day for Democrats.
Eastern Oregon Bear said:Even in eviction proceedings you get 30 days to vacate. I guess it's OK to give virtually no notice if you hate the person though. I look forward to seeing boxes of material (some of it classified) left in the hallway.tequila4kapp said:It was not nice. She earned the treatment, then some.Eastern Oregon Bear said:He gave Pelosi one day to vacate the office space while she is in San Francisco for Feinstein's funeral. Nice. So much class.BearHunter said:
Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., was evicted from her private Capitol office by the new speaker pro-tempore.
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— Jack Poso 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec) October 4, 2023
TRUMP - "A lot of people have been asking me about becoming Speaker. I'm 40-50 points ahead in the presidential race, but if I can help them in the process of running, I'll do it" pic.twitter.com/idIUi3dnV7
Her job?BearHunter said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:Even in eviction proceedings you get 30 days to vacate. I guess it's OK to give virtually no notice if you hate the person though. I look forward to seeing boxes of material (some of it classified) left in the hallway.tequila4kapp said:It was not nice. She earned the treatment, then some.Eastern Oregon Bear said:He gave Pelosi one day to vacate the office space while she is in San Francisco for Feinstein's funeral. Nice. So much class.BearHunter said:
Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., was evicted from her private Capitol office by the new speaker pro-tempore.
What do you think Nancy was doing in the Capitol Building for the last 9 months?
I guess if you ignore everything that happened in between those two events, sure. Ignore the fact that McCarthy almost caused us to default on our debt. Ignore how McCarthy threw the democrats under the bus again and again, most recently by blaming them for the GOP inability to pass a budget.tequila4kapp said:
Reports coming out that McCarthy consulted Pelosi during the Speaker battles. He shared that the crazies wanted a single person to be able to raise the Motion to Vacate. Pelosi reportedly advised McCarthy to give it to them and promised to support McCarthy if they ever used it. Then when it was used she instead remained loyal to Dems. Moving her out of the office is pure revenge for that. Republicans also moved Stoyer was also removed from his bigger office in retaliation, though I have not seen explicit reporting that he also made explicit promises of support which were reneged on.
If that reporting is accurate...McCarthy was probably stupid to trust Pelosi. Pelosi did what politicians do - she got her pound of flesh when the opportunity arose. Now R's are reacting in kind. Oh well, politics can be petty; **** happens.
I literally couldn't care less about McCarthy. That said, I find those justifications hilarious. "Almost" caused a default...but didn't. Throwing the opposing party under the bus...as if that's some unique and heinous offense (that Pelosi didn't do to Republicans when she was speaker). Puhleez.Unit2Sucks said:I guess if you ignore everything that happened in between those two events, sure. Ignore the fact that McCarthy almost caused us to default on our debt. Ignore how McCarthy threw the democrats under the bus again and again, most recently by blaming them for the GOP inability to pass a budget.tequila4kapp said:
Reports coming out that McCarthy consulted Pelosi during the Speaker battles. He shared that the crazies wanted a single person to be able to raise the Motion to Vacate. Pelosi reportedly advised McCarthy to give it to them and promised to support McCarthy if they ever used it. Then when it was used she instead remained loyal to Dems. Moving her out of the office is pure revenge for that. Republicans also moved Stoyer was also removed from his bigger office in retaliation, though I have not seen explicit reporting that he also made explicit promises of support which were reneged on.
If that reporting is accurate...McCarthy was probably stupid to trust Pelosi. Pelosi did what politicians do - she got her pound of flesh when the opportunity arose. Now R's are reacting in kind. Oh well, politics can be petty; **** happens.
McCarthy deserves every bit of this.
tequila4kapp said:
Reports coming out that McCarthy consulted Pelosi during the Speaker battles. He shared that the crazies wanted a single person to be able to raise the Motion to Vacate. Pelosi reportedly advised McCarthy to give it to them and promised to support McCarthy if they ever used it. Then when it was used she instead remained loyal to Dems. Moving her out of the office is pure revenge for that. Republicans also moved Stoyer was also removed from his bigger office in retaliation, though I have not seen explicit reporting that he also made explicit promises of support which were reneged on.
If that reporting is accurate...McCarthy was probably stupid to trust Pelosi. Pelosi did what politicians do - she got her pound of flesh when the opportunity arose. Now R's are reacting in kind. Oh well, politics can be petty; **** happens.
tequila4kapp said:
Reports coming out that McCarthy consulted Pelosi during the Speaker battles. He shared that the crazies wanted a single person to be able to raise the Motion to Vacate. Pelosi reportedly advised McCarthy to give it to them and promised to support McCarthy if they ever used it. Then when it was used she instead remained loyal to Dems. Moving her out of the office is pure revenge for that. Republicans also moved Stoyer was also removed from his bigger office in retaliation, though I have not seen explicit reporting that he also made explicit promises of support which were reneged on.
If that reporting is accurate...McCarthy was probably stupid to trust Pelosi. Pelosi did what politicians do - she got her pound of flesh when the opportunity arose. Now R's are reacting in kind. Oh well, politics can be petty; **** happens.
Not sure where you were when it was going on, but threatening to default threw our economy into chaos. It wasn't good for America. Sure - actually defaulting would have been worse, but why force us to walk up the line?tequila4kapp said:I literally couldn't care less about McCarthy. That said, I find those justifications hilarious. "Almost" caused a default...but didn't. Throwing the opposing party under the bus...as if that's some unique and heinous offense (that Pelosi didn't do to Republicans when she was speaker). Puhleez.Unit2Sucks said:I guess if you ignore everything that happened in between those two events, sure. Ignore the fact that McCarthy almost caused us to default on our debt. Ignore how McCarthy threw the democrats under the bus again and again, most recently by blaming them for the GOP inability to pass a budget.tequila4kapp said:
Reports coming out that McCarthy consulted Pelosi during the Speaker battles. He shared that the crazies wanted a single person to be able to raise the Motion to Vacate. Pelosi reportedly advised McCarthy to give it to them and promised to support McCarthy if they ever used it. Then when it was used she instead remained loyal to Dems. Moving her out of the office is pure revenge for that. Republicans also moved Stoyer was also removed from his bigger office in retaliation, though I have not seen explicit reporting that he also made explicit promises of support which were reneged on.
If that reporting is accurate...McCarthy was probably stupid to trust Pelosi. Pelosi did what politicians do - she got her pound of flesh when the opportunity arose. Now R's are reacting in kind. Oh well, politics can be petty; **** happens.
McCarthy deserves every bit of this.
Pelosi did what politicians do, she took advantage of an opportunity to screw over her political opponent....not because McCarthy forgot to send her flowers but because she could. It is the way the game is played. Somebody stupid enough to trust a partisan like Pelosi to stand by his side is too dumb to be Speaker anyways so I shed no tears for McCarthy.
Unit2Sucks said:
Not sure where you were when it was going on, but threatening to default threw our economy into chaos. It wasn't good for America. Sure - actually defaulting would have been worse, but why force us to walk up the line?
Also - what makes you think Nancy gave McCarthy an unconditional lifeline? Perhaps she said something like "Sure Kevin, if you aren't a total axxhole and act like a professional, we will keep you alive." He obviously failed to keep his party in line and rather than fund the government allowed the whackos do launch the ridiculous performative impeachment "inquiry".
You really think that Pelosi would have given McCarthy a no strings attached get out of jail card? You can't possibly be that naive. Nor could McCarthy.
tequila4kapp said:I literally couldn't care less about McCarthy. That said, I find those justifications hilarious. "Almost" caused a default...but didn't. Throwing the opposing party under the bus...as if that's some unique and heinous offense (that Pelosi didn't do to Republicans when she was speaker). Puhleez.Unit2Sucks said:I guess if you ignore everything that happened in between those two events, sure. Ignore the fact that McCarthy almost caused us to default on our debt. Ignore how McCarthy threw the democrats under the bus again and again, most recently by blaming them for the GOP inability to pass a budget.tequila4kapp said:
Reports coming out that McCarthy consulted Pelosi during the Speaker battles. He shared that the crazies wanted a single person to be able to raise the Motion to Vacate. Pelosi reportedly advised McCarthy to give it to them and promised to support McCarthy if they ever used it. Then when it was used she instead remained loyal to Dems. Moving her out of the office is pure revenge for that. Republicans also moved Stoyer was also removed from his bigger office in retaliation, though I have not seen explicit reporting that he also made explicit promises of support which were reneged on.
If that reporting is accurate...McCarthy was probably stupid to trust Pelosi. Pelosi did what politicians do - she got her pound of flesh when the opportunity arose. Now R's are reacting in kind. Oh well, politics can be petty; **** happens.
McCarthy deserves every bit of this.
Pelosi did what politicians do, she took advantage of an opportunity to screw over her political opponent....not because McCarthy forgot to send her flowers but because she could. It is the way the game is played. Somebody stupid enough to trust a partisan like Pelosi to stand by his side is too dumb to be Speaker anyways so I shed no tears for McCarthy.
dajo9 said:
Nancy is a BOSS.
10% For The Big Guy said:Nope, you had that wrong.Haloski said:
Gaetz is the alleged pedophile, correct? I just want to make sure I have my characters correct here.JUST IN: Fla. businessman Stephen Alford pleads guilty in bizarre $25M extortion plot aimed at getting Rep. Matt Gaetz’s dad to pay for a pardon for his son from Pres. Biden https://t.co/SnilnbWsmq
— Josh Gerstein (@joshgerstein) November 22, 2021
Okay, fine. I’ll be Speaker of the House. pic.twitter.com/O0RvyfF7T5
— Cobra Commander (@CobraCommander) October 4, 2023
Kevin Mccarthy in the Halloween spirit too 😂😂😂 pic.twitter.com/AT0uKoKFNS
— Kevin (@truegemini614) October 3, 2023
Somehow these situations always come back to people arguing that it's the Democrats' responsibility to get the Republicans out of their own mess.Unit2Sucks said:Not sure where you were when it was going on, but threatening to default threw our economy into chaos. It wasn't good for America. Sure - actually defaulting would have been worse, but why force us to walk up the line?tequila4kapp said:I literally couldn't care less about McCarthy. That said, I find those justifications hilarious. "Almost" caused a default...but didn't. Throwing the opposing party under the bus...as if that's some unique and heinous offense (that Pelosi didn't do to Republicans when she was speaker). Puhleez.Unit2Sucks said:I guess if you ignore everything that happened in between those two events, sure. Ignore the fact that McCarthy almost caused us to default on our debt. Ignore how McCarthy threw the democrats under the bus again and again, most recently by blaming them for the GOP inability to pass a budget.tequila4kapp said:
Reports coming out that McCarthy consulted Pelosi during the Speaker battles. He shared that the crazies wanted a single person to be able to raise the Motion to Vacate. Pelosi reportedly advised McCarthy to give it to them and promised to support McCarthy if they ever used it. Then when it was used she instead remained loyal to Dems. Moving her out of the office is pure revenge for that. Republicans also moved Stoyer was also removed from his bigger office in retaliation, though I have not seen explicit reporting that he also made explicit promises of support which were reneged on.
If that reporting is accurate...McCarthy was probably stupid to trust Pelosi. Pelosi did what politicians do - she got her pound of flesh when the opportunity arose. Now R's are reacting in kind. Oh well, politics can be petty; **** happens.
McCarthy deserves every bit of this.
Pelosi did what politicians do, she took advantage of an opportunity to screw over her political opponent....not because McCarthy forgot to send her flowers but because she could. It is the way the game is played. Somebody stupid enough to trust a partisan like Pelosi to stand by his side is too dumb to be Speaker anyways so I shed no tears for McCarthy.
Also - what makes you think Nancy gave McCarthy an unconditional lifeline? Perhaps she said something like "Sure Kevin, if you aren't a total axxhole and act like a professional, we will keep you alive." He obviously failed to keep his party in line and rather than fund the government allowed the whackos do launch the ridiculous performative impeachment "inquiry".
You really think that Pelosi would have given McCarthy a no strings attached get out of jail card? You can't possibly be that naive. Nor could McCarthy.
AOC would agree. Maybe the GOP should remove their prerequisite that only white mean can be speaker.sycasey said:Somehow these situations always come back to people arguing that it's the Democrats' responsibility to get the Republicans out of their own mess.Unit2Sucks said:Not sure where you were when it was going on, but threatening to default threw our economy into chaos. It wasn't good for America. Sure - actually defaulting would have been worse, but why force us to walk up the line?tequila4kapp said:I literally couldn't care less about McCarthy. That said, I find those justifications hilarious. "Almost" caused a default...but didn't. Throwing the opposing party under the bus...as if that's some unique and heinous offense (that Pelosi didn't do to Republicans when she was speaker). Puhleez.Unit2Sucks said:I guess if you ignore everything that happened in between those two events, sure. Ignore the fact that McCarthy almost caused us to default on our debt. Ignore how McCarthy threw the democrats under the bus again and again, most recently by blaming them for the GOP inability to pass a budget.tequila4kapp said:
Reports coming out that McCarthy consulted Pelosi during the Speaker battles. He shared that the crazies wanted a single person to be able to raise the Motion to Vacate. Pelosi reportedly advised McCarthy to give it to them and promised to support McCarthy if they ever used it. Then when it was used she instead remained loyal to Dems. Moving her out of the office is pure revenge for that. Republicans also moved Stoyer was also removed from his bigger office in retaliation, though I have not seen explicit reporting that he also made explicit promises of support which were reneged on.
If that reporting is accurate...McCarthy was probably stupid to trust Pelosi. Pelosi did what politicians do - she got her pound of flesh when the opportunity arose. Now R's are reacting in kind. Oh well, politics can be petty; **** happens.
McCarthy deserves every bit of this.
Pelosi did what politicians do, she took advantage of an opportunity to screw over her political opponent....not because McCarthy forgot to send her flowers but because she could. It is the way the game is played. Somebody stupid enough to trust a partisan like Pelosi to stand by his side is too dumb to be Speaker anyways so I shed no tears for McCarthy.
Also - what makes you think Nancy gave McCarthy an unconditional lifeline? Perhaps she said something like "Sure Kevin, if you aren't a total axxhole and act like a professional, we will keep you alive." He obviously failed to keep his party in line and rather than fund the government allowed the whackos do launch the ridiculous performative impeachment "inquiry".
You really think that Pelosi would have given McCarthy a no strings attached get out of jail card? You can't possibly be that naive. Nor could McCarthy.
Contrary to how McCarthy’s defenders are behaving, men failing up is not a Constitutionally protected right.
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) October 4, 2023
The man made risky decisions and faced the natural consequences of them. I am not his mom, and my job is not to put pool noodles around hard corners for Republicans.
Yes, because strengthening someone who voted to overturn the election, held the entire US economy hostage, launched a baseless impeachment inquiry without a vote, and refuses to honor his word is what is in the best interest of this country.
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) October 4, 2023
Do some of you hear yourselves? https://t.co/EnmF2TkbTG
dajo9 said:
My ideal ticket for 2028 is Newsom / AOC
They would clownstomp the Republicans
Hold an open vote and let the person with the most votes win. Hakeem Jefferies has more support than anyone else in congress.sycasey said:
IMO Republicans could easily get Democratic support by nominating a more moderate leader than McCarthy. Their problem is that the inmates are running the asylum and no such person exists who could win their votes.
dajo9 said:
My ideal ticket for 2028 is Newsom / AOC
They would clownstomp the Republicans
Big C said:dajo9 said:
My ideal ticket for 2028 is Newsom / AOC
They would clownstomp the Republicans
I wouldn't hesitate to vote for that ticket, but wouldn't AOC drive away more votes than she would attract?
I am not arguing that. I am sharing a report which indicates details of pettiness and back biting all the way around, related to the office moves.sycasey said:Somehow these situations always come back to people arguing that it's the Democrats' responsibility to get the Republicans out of their own mess.Unit2Sucks said:Not sure where you were when it was going on, but threatening to default threw our economy into chaos. It wasn't good for America. Sure - actually defaulting would have been worse, but why force us to walk up the line?tequila4kapp said:I literally couldn't care less about McCarthy. That said, I find those justifications hilarious. "Almost" caused a default...but didn't. Throwing the opposing party under the bus...as if that's some unique and heinous offense (that Pelosi didn't do to Republicans when she was speaker). Puhleez.Unit2Sucks said:I guess if you ignore everything that happened in between those two events, sure. Ignore the fact that McCarthy almost caused us to default on our debt. Ignore how McCarthy threw the democrats under the bus again and again, most recently by blaming them for the GOP inability to pass a budget.tequila4kapp said:
Reports coming out that McCarthy consulted Pelosi during the Speaker battles. He shared that the crazies wanted a single person to be able to raise the Motion to Vacate. Pelosi reportedly advised McCarthy to give it to them and promised to support McCarthy if they ever used it. Then when it was used she instead remained loyal to Dems. Moving her out of the office is pure revenge for that. Republicans also moved Stoyer was also removed from his bigger office in retaliation, though I have not seen explicit reporting that he also made explicit promises of support which were reneged on.
If that reporting is accurate...McCarthy was probably stupid to trust Pelosi. Pelosi did what politicians do - she got her pound of flesh when the opportunity arose. Now R's are reacting in kind. Oh well, politics can be petty; **** happens.
McCarthy deserves every bit of this.
Pelosi did what politicians do, she took advantage of an opportunity to screw over her political opponent....not because McCarthy forgot to send her flowers but because she could. It is the way the game is played. Somebody stupid enough to trust a partisan like Pelosi to stand by his side is too dumb to be Speaker anyways so I shed no tears for McCarthy.
Also - what makes you think Nancy gave McCarthy an unconditional lifeline? Perhaps she said something like "Sure Kevin, if you aren't a total axxhole and act like a professional, we will keep you alive." He obviously failed to keep his party in line and rather than fund the government allowed the whackos do launch the ridiculous performative impeachment "inquiry".
You really think that Pelosi would have given McCarthy a no strings attached get out of jail card? You can't possibly be that naive. Nor could McCarthy.
sycasey said:
IMO Republicans could easily get Democratic support by nominating a more moderate leader than McCarthy. Their problem is that the inmates are running the asylum and no such person exists who could win their votes.
dajo9 said:
My ideal ticket for 2028 is Newsom / AOC
They would clownstomp the Republicans
bearister said:
"Reports coming out that McCarthy consulted Pelosi during the Speaker battles. He shared that the crazies wanted a single person to be able to raise the Motion to Vacate. Pelosi reportedly advised McCarthy to give it to them and promised to support McCarthy if they ever used it. Then when it was used she instead remained loyal to Dems."
Right, that's the problem. Also, McCarthy agreed to rules in the Republican caucus that only one person can trigger a vote to remove the Speaker, so Democrats helping him this time wouldn't prevent that from continuing to happen into infinity.concordtom said:sycasey said:
IMO Republicans could easily get Democratic support by nominating a more moderate leader than McCarthy. Their problem is that the inmates are running the asylum and no such person exists who could win their votes.
I've been playing with scenarios in my mind. I think it's unlikely. Any Republican that relies on Dem votes will be voted out and pilloried until the ends of time.
