You say these things as if Israel is acting wantonly and irrationally. Hamas attacks Jewish civilians, raping women, beheading children, burning people alive. Hamas puts their HQ under hospitals. Hamas puts their weapons next to schools and hospitals and government buildings. Hamas puts up road blocks preventing Palestinians from heeding Israeli warnings to move south. Hamas runs their terror cave network through and into residential areas. Exactly what is Israel supposed to do, invite Hamas to dinner and sing Kumbaya together? Israel may have its flaws but Hamas is pure evil.tequila4kapp said:Or Hamas did by integrating their weaponry to civilian locations and denying Palestinians the ability to move to avoid bombing.concordtom said:Israel did broaden the war.wifeisafurd said:
Apparently the US is bombing Iranian troop positions in Syria for rocket attacks against US facilities in the mideast, for those who thought it would be Israel that broadened the war.
They took out their rage against the actions of 2-3000 on 2 Million.
What a bummer to be a non-voting resident of Gaza.
In other news, Iran denies that Hamas killed civilians, only military targets.
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If Trump were president, he'd be blaming liberal democrats that not enough Palestinians had died, ordering more deaths.
He'd turn it into a racial conflict inside the USA.
He'd turn it into a racial conflict inside the USA.
He would have the same take on the situation that Putin has.
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bearister said:
He would have the same take on the situation that Putin has.
Tricky, now that Putin is dead
tequila4kapp said:You say these things as if Israel is acting wantonly and irrationally. Hamas attacks Jewish civilians, raping women, beheading children, burning people alive. Hamas puts their HQ under hospitals. Hamas puts their weapons next to schools and hospitals and government buildings. Hamas puts up road blocks preventing Palestinians from heeding Israeli warnings to move south. Hamas runs their terror cave network through and into residential areas. Exactly what is Israel supposed to do, invite Hamas to dinner and sing Kumbaya together? Israel may have its flaws but Hamas is pure evil.tequila4kapp said:Or Hamas did by integrating their weaponry to civilian locations and denying Palestinians the ability to move to avoid bombing.concordtom said:Israel did broaden the war.wifeisafurd said:
Apparently the US is bombing Iranian troop positions in Syria for rocket attacks against US facilities in the mideast, for those who thought it would be Israel that broadened the war.
They took out their rage against the actions of 2-3000 on 2 Million.
What a bummer to be a non-voting resident of Gaza.
In other news, Iran denies that Hamas killed civilians, only military targets.
Israel is acting wantonly and irrationally.
concordtom said:
If Trump were president, he'd be blaming liberal democrats that not enough Palestinians had died, ordering more deaths.
He'd turn it into a racial conflict inside the USA.
Possibly none of these wars happened if we had President Trump 2.0. We had peace and prosperity, and five Mideast Peace deals, until the Plandemic.
Biden-Obama-Blinken gave us a disastrous Afghanistan implosion, a proxy war w Russia, and Israel-Gaza.
Don't forget, as Obama was cozy w the Muslim Brotherhood, Biden is likewise soft. He just released $ 7 Billion to Iran, and removed trade barriers that blocked tens of Billions in oil revenues. Appeasement. Afghanistan revealed poor Military and political leadership, and armed terrorists for decades.
$20-30-40 Billion less, likely no war.
No explanation for the IDF being asleep. Were key people in Ukraine or brothels?
POLL: Massive dip in Israeli public's support for a ground invasion.
— Sajjad Safaei, Dr. (@SajjadSafaei0) October 27, 2023
On 19 Oct: 65% support ground invasion of Gaza.
On 26 Oct: 29%. 49% say they prefer the army to wait.
What a difference a week can make.https://t.co/QqK9PDQk1A
I always felt like Britain kinda gets too much blame for their part in this tbh. Did they play a part? yeah, but at the time their hand was also forced by having to deal with terrorist attacks by the palestinians on brits lol.tequila4kapp said:
I have been reading a good deal about the region. It is fascinating. The degrees to which this is complex is kind of amazing. For those who may be interested, go back to WW1 and Britain. In many ways the current story starts there.
I feel like Israel would be walking themselves into a trap by going in. They need to find a diplomatic solution and get their hostages out and get this ended. Then just create a stronger barrier and a bolder 2nd amendment. Leave the Gazans alone completely and let them build their own infrastructure.
Trump would have completely taken us out of Syria as well but for getting backstabbed by our own military and the huge pressure campaign by the media and other party that he was "killing the kurds". As if the US president had a responsibility to the Kurds and not US interests.movielover said:concordtom said:
If Trump were president, he'd be blaming liberal democrats that not enough Palestinians had died, ordering more deaths.
He'd turn it into a racial conflict inside the USA.
Possibly none of these wars happened if we had President Trump 2.0. We had peace and prosperity, and five Mideast Peace deals, until the Plandemic.
Biden-Obama-Blinken gave us a disastrous Afghanistan implosion, a proxy war w Russia, and Israel-Gaza.
Don't forget, as Obama was cozy w the Muslim Brotherhood, Biden is likewise soft. He just released $ 7 Billion to Iran, and removed trade barriers that blocked tens of Billions in oil revenues. Appeasement. Afghanistan revealed poor Military and political leadership, and armed terrorists for decades.
$20-30-40 Billion less, likely no war.
No explanation for the IDF being asleep. Were key people in Ukraine or brothels?
MinotStateBeav said:Trump would have completely taken us out of Syria as well but for getting backstabbed by our own military and the huge pressure campaign by the media and other party that he was "killing the kurds". As if the US president had a responsibility to the Kurds and not US interests.movielover said:concordtom said:
If Trump were president, he'd be blaming liberal democrats that not enough Palestinians had died, ordering more deaths.
He'd turn it into a racial conflict inside the USA.
Possibly none of these wars happened if we had President Trump 2.0. We had peace and prosperity, and five Mideast Peace deals, until the Plandemic.
Biden-Obama-Blinken gave us a disastrous Afghanistan implosion, a proxy war w Russia, and Israel-Gaza.
Don't forget, as Obama was cozy w the Muslim Brotherhood, Biden is likewise soft. He just released $ 7 Billion to Iran, and removed trade barriers that blocked tens of Billions in oil revenues. Appeasement. Afghanistan revealed poor Military and political leadership, and armed terrorists for decades.
$20-30-40 Billion less, likely no war.
No explanation for the IDF being asleep. Were key people in Ukraine or brothels?
Please tell us more about how Trump was too weak to accomplish his goals as President
Yeah he was lied to by his own military dude..how is that too weak? It shows us more about how much we need to restructure the power in this country. How the deep state has far too much.dajo9 said:MinotStateBeav said:Trump would have completely taken us out of Syria as well but for getting backstabbed by our own military and the huge pressure campaign by the media and other party that he was "killing the kurds". As if the US president had a responsibility to the Kurds and not US interests.movielover said:concordtom said:
If Trump were president, he'd be blaming liberal democrats that not enough Palestinians had died, ordering more deaths.
He'd turn it into a racial conflict inside the USA.
Possibly none of these wars happened if we had President Trump 2.0. We had peace and prosperity, and five Mideast Peace deals, until the Plandemic.
Biden-Obama-Blinken gave us a disastrous Afghanistan implosion, a proxy war w Russia, and Israel-Gaza.
Don't forget, as Obama was cozy w the Muslim Brotherhood, Biden is likewise soft. He just released $ 7 Billion to Iran, and removed trade barriers that blocked tens of Billions in oil revenues. Appeasement. Afghanistan revealed poor Military and political leadership, and armed terrorists for decades.
$20-30-40 Billion less, likely no war.
No explanation for the IDF being asleep. Were key people in Ukraine or brothels?
Please tell us more about how Trump was too weak to accomplish his goals as President
Have you ever made similar excuses for Joe Biden? Either a president is responsible for what happens on his watch or he isn't.MinotStateBeav said:Yeah he was lied to by his own military dude..how is that too weak? It shows us more about how much we need to restructure the power in this country. How the deep state has far too much.dajo9 said:MinotStateBeav said:Trump would have completely taken us out of Syria as well but for getting backstabbed by our own military and the huge pressure campaign by the media and other party that he was "killing the kurds". As if the US president had a responsibility to the Kurds and not US interests.movielover said:concordtom said:
If Trump were president, he'd be blaming liberal democrats that not enough Palestinians had died, ordering more deaths.
He'd turn it into a racial conflict inside the USA.
Possibly none of these wars happened if we had President Trump 2.0. We had peace and prosperity, and five Mideast Peace deals, until the Plandemic.
Biden-Obama-Blinken gave us a disastrous Afghanistan implosion, a proxy war w Russia, and Israel-Gaza.
Don't forget, as Obama was cozy w the Muslim Brotherhood, Biden is likewise soft. He just released $ 7 Billion to Iran, and removed trade barriers that blocked tens of Billions in oil revenues. Appeasement. Afghanistan revealed poor Military and political leadership, and armed terrorists for decades.
$20-30-40 Billion less, likely no war.
No explanation for the IDF being asleep. Were key people in Ukraine or brothels?
Please tell us more about how Trump was too weak to accomplish his goals as President
Biden is the perfect example. He isn't actually running anything.sycasey said:Have you ever made similar excuses for Joe Biden? Either a president is responsible for what happens on his watch or he isn't.MinotStateBeav said:Yeah he was lied to by his own military dude..how is that too weak? It shows us more about how much we need to restructure the power in this country. How the deep state has far too much.dajo9 said:MinotStateBeav said:Trump would have completely taken us out of Syria as well but for getting backstabbed by our own military and the huge pressure campaign by the media and other party that he was "killing the kurds". As if the US president had a responsibility to the Kurds and not US interests.movielover said:concordtom said:
If Trump were president, he'd be blaming liberal democrats that not enough Palestinians had died, ordering more deaths.
He'd turn it into a racial conflict inside the USA.
Possibly none of these wars happened if we had President Trump 2.0. We had peace and prosperity, and five Mideast Peace deals, until the Plandemic.
Biden-Obama-Blinken gave us a disastrous Afghanistan implosion, a proxy war w Russia, and Israel-Gaza.
Don't forget, as Obama was cozy w the Muslim Brotherhood, Biden is likewise soft. He just released $ 7 Billion to Iran, and removed trade barriers that blocked tens of Billions in oil revenues. Appeasement. Afghanistan revealed poor Military and political leadership, and armed terrorists for decades.
$20-30-40 Billion less, likely no war.
No explanation for the IDF being asleep. Were key people in Ukraine or brothels?
Please tell us more about how Trump was too weak to accomplish his goals as President
An excellent bestseller book on how England and France laid the seeds for the problems in the Middle East and ignored all the stuff that British Military Intelligence, led primarily by Lawerence, put in place, is: Lawrence in Arabia: War, Deceit, Imperial Folly and the Making of the Modern Middle Easttequila4kapp said:
I have been reading a good deal about the region. It is fascinating. The degrees to which this is complex is kind of amazing. For those who may be interested, go back to WW1 and Britain. In many ways the current story starts there.
Well then, quit holding Biden responsible for everything.MinotStateBeav said:Biden is the perfect example. He isn't actually running anything.sycasey said:Have you ever made similar excuses for Joe Biden? Either a president is responsible for what happens on his watch or he isn't.MinotStateBeav said:Yeah he was lied to by his own military dude..how is that too weak? It shows us more about how much we need to restructure the power in this country. How the deep state has far too much.dajo9 said:MinotStateBeav said:Trump would have completely taken us out of Syria as well but for getting backstabbed by our own military and the huge pressure campaign by the media and other party that he was "killing the kurds". As if the US president had a responsibility to the Kurds and not US interests.movielover said:concordtom said:
If Trump were president, he'd be blaming liberal democrats that not enough Palestinians had died, ordering more deaths.
He'd turn it into a racial conflict inside the USA.
Possibly none of these wars happened if we had President Trump 2.0. We had peace and prosperity, and five Mideast Peace deals, until the Plandemic.
Biden-Obama-Blinken gave us a disastrous Afghanistan implosion, a proxy war w Russia, and Israel-Gaza.
Don't forget, as Obama was cozy w the Muslim Brotherhood, Biden is likewise soft. He just released $ 7 Billion to Iran, and removed trade barriers that blocked tens of Billions in oil revenues. Appeasement. Afghanistan revealed poor Military and political leadership, and armed terrorists for decades.
$20-30-40 Billion less, likely no war.
No explanation for the IDF being asleep. Were key people in Ukraine or brothels?
Please tell us more about how Trump was too weak to accomplish his goals as President
When we say Biden, we're talking about the Biden White House, not the man specifically. Unless its to make fun of him falling down or something stupid like that. Nobody really knows who's running it, it could be Blinken and Kirby or could be Obama in the background. The report that the FBI is protecting Biden and blackmailing the administration could be true too.Eastern Oregon Bear said:Well then, quit holding Biden responsible for everything.MinotStateBeav said:Biden is the perfect example. He isn't actually running anything.sycasey said:Have you ever made similar excuses for Joe Biden? Either a president is responsible for what happens on his watch or he isn't.MinotStateBeav said:Yeah he was lied to by his own military dude..how is that too weak? It shows us more about how much we need to restructure the power in this country. How the deep state has far too much.dajo9 said:MinotStateBeav said:Trump would have completely taken us out of Syria as well but for getting backstabbed by our own military and the huge pressure campaign by the media and other party that he was "killing the kurds". As if the US president had a responsibility to the Kurds and not US interests.movielover said:concordtom said:
If Trump were president, he'd be blaming liberal democrats that not enough Palestinians had died, ordering more deaths.
He'd turn it into a racial conflict inside the USA.
Possibly none of these wars happened if we had President Trump 2.0. We had peace and prosperity, and five Mideast Peace deals, until the Plandemic.
Biden-Obama-Blinken gave us a disastrous Afghanistan implosion, a proxy war w Russia, and Israel-Gaza.
Don't forget, as Obama was cozy w the Muslim Brotherhood, Biden is likewise soft. He just released $ 7 Billion to Iran, and removed trade barriers that blocked tens of Billions in oil revenues. Appeasement. Afghanistan revealed poor Military and political leadership, and armed terrorists for decades.
$20-30-40 Billion less, likely no war.
No explanation for the IDF being asleep. Were key people in Ukraine or brothels?
Please tell us more about how Trump was too weak to accomplish his goals as President
I was a history major. I read the book. I found it difficult to get through but finished it.
Reading this now. Equally as painful as Lawrence book.
This was wonderful:
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But they can't because Hamas constantly attacks them.MinotStateBeav said:
I feel like Israel would be walking themselves into a trap by going in. They need to find a diplomatic solution and get their hostages out and get this ended. Then just create a stronger barrier and a bolder 2nd amendment. Leave the Gazans alone completely and let them build their own infrastructure.
They rid Lebanon of the PLO, they can do it again here. And preemptively for those who say Hezbollah replaced the PLO…Israel accepted the UN deal where they withdrew from Lebanon in exchange for Hezbollah disarming. They withdrew. Hezbollah refused to disarm. So much for playing nicely by international norms.
MinotStateBeav said:Biden is the perfect example. He isn't actually running anything.sycasey said:Have you ever made similar excuses for Joe Biden? Either a president is responsible for what happens on his watch or he isn't.MinotStateBeav said:Yeah he was lied to by his own military dude..how is that too weak? It shows us more about how much we need to restructure the power in this country. How the deep state has far too much.dajo9 said:MinotStateBeav said:Trump would have completely taken us out of Syria as well but for getting backstabbed by our own military and the huge pressure campaign by the media and other party that he was "killing the kurds". As if the US president had a responsibility to the Kurds and not US interests.movielover said:concordtom said:
If Trump were president, he'd be blaming liberal democrats that not enough Palestinians had died, ordering more deaths.
He'd turn it into a racial conflict inside the USA.
Possibly none of these wars happened if we had President Trump 2.0. We had peace and prosperity, and five Mideast Peace deals, until the Plandemic.
Biden-Obama-Blinken gave us a disastrous Afghanistan implosion, a proxy war w Russia, and Israel-Gaza.
Don't forget, as Obama was cozy w the Muslim Brotherhood, Biden is likewise soft. He just released $ 7 Billion to Iran, and removed trade barriers that blocked tens of Billions in oil revenues. Appeasement. Afghanistan revealed poor Military and political leadership, and armed terrorists for decades.
$20-30-40 Billion less, likely no war.
No explanation for the IDF being asleep. Were key people in Ukraine or brothels?
Please tell us more about how Trump was too weak to accomplish his goals as President
So when Trump isn't running anything, it means he's good. When Biden isn't running anything, it means he's bad.
Cool.
Sorry but you guys already claimed on your bingo card that Trump is the end of democracy. No take backs.sycasey said:MinotStateBeav said:Biden is the perfect example. He isn't actually running anything.sycasey said:Have you ever made similar excuses for Joe Biden? Either a president is responsible for what happens on his watch or he isn't.MinotStateBeav said:Yeah he was lied to by his own military dude..how is that too weak? It shows us more about how much we need to restructure the power in this country. How the deep state has far too much.dajo9 said:MinotStateBeav said:Trump would have completely taken us out of Syria as well but for getting backstabbed by our own military and the huge pressure campaign by the media and other party that he was "killing the kurds". As if the US president had a responsibility to the Kurds and not US interests.movielover said:concordtom said:
If Trump were president, he'd be blaming liberal democrats that not enough Palestinians had died, ordering more deaths.
He'd turn it into a racial conflict inside the USA.
Possibly none of these wars happened if we had President Trump 2.0. We had peace and prosperity, and five Mideast Peace deals, until the Plandemic.
Biden-Obama-Blinken gave us a disastrous Afghanistan implosion, a proxy war w Russia, and Israel-Gaza.
Don't forget, as Obama was cozy w the Muslim Brotherhood, Biden is likewise soft. He just released $ 7 Billion to Iran, and removed trade barriers that blocked tens of Billions in oil revenues. Appeasement. Afghanistan revealed poor Military and political leadership, and armed terrorists for decades.
$20-30-40 Billion less, likely no war.
No explanation for the IDF being asleep. Were key people in Ukraine or brothels?
Please tell us more about how Trump was too weak to accomplish his goals as President
So when Trump isn't running anything, it means he's good. When Biden isn't running anything, it means he's bad.
Cool.
There's no way to do it without basically leveling Gaza unless you are going to try and root out an enemy with tunnels and rubble to fight in. While it might be effective, it likely won't be worth the long term loss of life for Israeli soldiers and hostile neighbors. The USA cannot take in Gazans to help Israel force them out of their land and pushing them to Egypt will just create a new front while making Egypt a permanent enemy.tequila4kapp said:But they can't because Hamas constantly attacks them.MinotStateBeav said:
I feel like Israel would be walking themselves into a trap by going in. They need to find a diplomatic solution and get their hostages out and get this ended. Then just create a stronger barrier and a bolder 2nd amendment. Leave the Gazans alone completely and let them build their own infrastructure.
They rid Lebanon of the PLO, they can do it again here. And preemptively for those who say Hezbollah replaced the PLO…Israel accepted the UN deal where they withdrew from Lebanon in exchange for Hezbollah disarming. They withdrew. Hezbollah refused to disarm. So much for playing nicely by international norms.
From Wiki - list of Israeli wars and other military conflicts. In their @75 years of existence they've had maybe 15 years of "peace":
- 1948 ArabIsraeli War (November 1947 July 1949)
- Palestinian Fedayeen insurgency (1950s1960s)
- Suez Crisis (October 1956)
- Six-Day War (June 1967)
- War of Attrition (19671970)
- Yom Kippur War (October 1973)
- Palestinian insurgency in South Lebanon (19711982)
- 1982 Lebanon War (1982)
- South Lebanon conflict (19852000)
- First Intifada (19871993)
- Second Intifada (20002005)
- 2006 Lebanon War (summer 2006)
- Gaza War or Operation Cast Lead (December 2008 January 2009)
- 2012 Israeli operation in the Gaza Strip or Operation Pillar of Defense (November 2012)
- 2014 Gaza War or Operation Protective Edge (JulyAugust 2014)
- Syrian Civil War
- 2021 IsraelPalestine crisis or Operation Guardian of the Walls (May 2021)
- 2023 IsraelHamas war (October 2023- )
this. To me there is absolutely NO end game. Like with Afghanistan. What will be left is:MinotStateBeav said:There's no way to do it without basically leveling Gaza unless you are going to try and root out an enemy with tunnels and rubble to fight in. While it might be effective, it likely won't be worth the long term loss of life for Israeli soldiers and hostile neighbors. The USA cannot take in Gazans to help Israel force them out of their land and pushing them to Egypt will just create a new front while making Egypt a permanent enemy.tequila4kapp said:But they can't because Hamas constantly attacks them.MinotStateBeav said:
I feel like Israel would be walking themselves into a trap by going in. They need to find a diplomatic solution and get their hostages out and get this ended. Then just create a stronger barrier and a bolder 2nd amendment. Leave the Gazans alone completely and let them build their own infrastructure.
They rid Lebanon of the PLO, they can do it again here. And preemptively for those who say Hezbollah replaced the PLO…Israel accepted the UN deal where they withdrew from Lebanon in exchange for Hezbollah disarming. They withdrew. Hezbollah refused to disarm. So much for playing nicely by international norms.
- a rump of Hamas (cause lets be blunt - you are not killing every one of them), l
- a damaged but not destroyed tunnel system (unless you go in with a ground offensive and likely lose hundreds if not thousands of IDF soldiers in the kind of fight where overwhelming technology and firepower don't matter as much). \
- and then a severly destroyed gaza that will receive in the next few years a ton of international material aid (or else horrific starvation and deprivation) that will be a conduit for Hamas to rebuild capacity.
Rinse and repeat.
PS. To me this is the biggest sin. Bennie is playing to his domestic hard right audience. They don't CARE that what is going on is collective punishment. They welcome it. Think it is right. Read a different Torah than I. But the long game is likely to leave Israel LESS secure.
Numerous: https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/october-28-israel-hamas-warmovielover said:The hospital that Hamas hit?tequila4kapp said:
Israel releases info in support of their claim that Hamas HQ is underneath Gaza's largest hospital, and that Hamas has a network of sites connected to hospitals.
MinotStateBeav said:There's no way to do it without basically leveling Gaza unless you are going to try and root out an enemy with tunnels and rubble to fight in. While it might be effective, it likely won't be worth the long term loss of life for Israeli soldiers and hostile neighbors. The USA cannot take in Gazans to help Israel force them out of their land and pushing them to Egypt will just create a new front while making Egypt a permanent enemy.tequila4kapp said:But they can't because Hamas constantly attacks them.MinotStateBeav said:
I feel like Israel would be walking themselves into a trap by going in. They need to find a diplomatic solution and get their hostages out and get this ended. Then just create a stronger barrier and a bolder 2nd amendment. Leave the Gazans alone completely and let them build their own infrastructure.
They rid Lebanon of the PLO, they can do it again here. And preemptively for those who say Hezbollah replaced the PLO…Israel accepted the UN deal where they withdrew from Lebanon in exchange for Hezbollah disarming. They withdrew. Hezbollah refused to disarm. So much for playing nicely by international norms.
Could we put them in Puerto Rico?
The Telegraph: Blundering White House shares identities of secret hostage rescue unit in Israel
Photograph of members of the elite counter-terrorism team meeting Joe Biden was shared on Instagram before being swiftly removed
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2023/10/20/white-house-shares-identities-secret-special-ops-israel/
Photograph of members of the elite counter-terrorism team meeting Joe Biden was shared on Instagram before being swiftly removed
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/news/2023/10/20/white-house-shares-identities-secret-special-ops-israel/
MinotStateBeav said:I always felt like Britain kinda gets too much blame for their part in this tbh. Did they play a part? yeah, but at the time their hand was also forced by having to deal with terrorist attacks by the palestinians on brits lol.tequila4kapp said:
I have been reading a good deal about the region. It is fascinating. The degrees to which this is complex is kind of amazing. For those who may be interested, go back to WW1 and Britain. In many ways the current story starts there.
The main terrorist attacks in Palestine under the British mandate were done by zionist extremist groups like the Irgun and Stern gang, terrorist organizations which were led by two future Israeli prime ministers, Menachem Begin and Itzak Shamir.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irgun_attacks
Most notorious were the bombing of the King David hotel and the massacre of Deir Yassin, which was done by the Irgun terror cell, led by future PM Begin. They also carried terror attacks in Europe.
On 10th March 1948, the zionist paramilitary force, Haganah, adopted Plan Dalet
— Maria (@real1maria) October 26, 2023
One of the most widely publicized village massacres happened at Deir Yassin pic.twitter.com/akCo4DdpRd
Long live to war criminals?
— Leo yassin (@Leoyassin1) October 28, 2023
To land thieves?
To Modern Nazis?
To Zionists?
Israel is a terrorist state and war criminals who did nothing to Palestinians except stealing their land and doing Massacres
Tantura massacre
Deir Yassin massacre
Can you say your opinion on this video ? pic.twitter.com/orM2X7bS42
you know ...you're right I said Palestine. But I meant to say the Zionists(Russian Jews who were radicalized). That was a brain fart.Cal88 said:MinotStateBeav said:I always felt like Britain kinda gets too much blame for their part in this tbh. Did they play a part? yeah, but at the time their hand was also forced by having to deal with terrorist attacks by the palestinians on brits lol.tequila4kapp said:
I have been reading a good deal about the region. It is fascinating. The degrees to which this is complex is kind of amazing. For those who may be interested, go back to WW1 and Britain. In many ways the current story starts there.
The main terrorist attacks in Palestine under the British mandate were done by zionist extremist groups like the Irgun and Stern gang, terrorist organizations which were led by two future Israeli prime ministers, Menachem Begin and Itzak Shamir.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irgun_attacks
Most notorious were the bombing of the King David hotel and the massacre of Deir Yassin, which was done by the Irgun terror cell, led by future PM Begin. They also carried terror attacks in Europe.On 10th March 1948, the zionist paramilitary force, Haganah, adopted Plan Dalet
— Maria (@real1maria) October 26, 2023
One of the most widely publicized village massacres happened at Deir Yassin pic.twitter.com/akCo4DdpRdLong live to war criminals?
— Leo yassin (@Leoyassin1) October 28, 2023
To land thieves?
To Modern Nazis?
To Zionists?
Israel is a terrorist state and war criminals who did nothing to Palestinians except stealing their land and doing Massacres
Tantura massacre
Deir Yassin massacre
Can you say your opinion on this video ? pic.twitter.com/orM2X7bS42
movielover said:MinotStateBeav said:There's no way to do it without basically leveling Gaza unless you are going to try and root out an enemy with tunnels and rubble to fight in. While it might be effective, it likely won't be worth the long term loss of life for Israeli soldiers and hostile neighbors. The USA cannot take in Gazans to help Israel force them out of their land and pushing them to Egypt will just create a new front while making Egypt a permanent enemy.tequila4kapp said:But they can't because Hamas constantly attacks them.MinotStateBeav said:
I feel like Israel would be walking themselves into a trap by going in. They need to find a diplomatic solution and get their hostages out and get this ended. Then just create a stronger barrier and a bolder 2nd amendment. Leave the Gazans alone completely and let them build their own infrastructure.
They rid Lebanon of the PLO, they can do it again here. And preemptively for those who say Hezbollah replaced the PLO…Israel accepted the UN deal where they withdrew from Lebanon in exchange for Hezbollah disarming. They withdrew. Hezbollah refused to disarm. So much for playing nicely by international norms.
Could we put them in Puerto Rico?
We'll relocate them to both of your guys' places and tell them you are of Israeli descent.
Some New Yorkers are fed up with the losers who are going around ripping down posters of the hostages being held by Hamas terrorists! pic.twitter.com/sAbrfzezLc
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) October 27, 2023
A mass Islamic prayer takes place in Soho, Manhattan at the pro-Palestine rally. Females are not allowed to pray in the front. pic.twitter.com/We8Jk4M4Mr
— Andy Ngô 🏳️🌈 (@MrAndyNgo) October 28, 2023
Breaking: As in the 2020 BLM-Antifa riots, pro-Palestine demonstrators are blocking the road in Manhattan and aggressively confronting drivers. Days ago, Palestine rioters also attacked an elderly driver in Minneapolis. Video by @Julio_Rosas11: pic.twitter.com/vsP2b0PvQd
— Andy Ngô 🏳️🌈 (@MrAndyNgo) October 28, 2023
As is always the case, there are two sides to these stories, not to mention context and back story which generally undercuts the Jews as indiscriminate terrorist narrative.Cal88 said:MinotStateBeav said:I always felt like Britain kinda gets too much blame for their part in this tbh. Did they play a part? yeah, but at the time their hand was also forced by having to deal with terrorist attacks by the palestinians on brits lol.tequila4kapp said:
I have been reading a good deal about the region. It is fascinating. The degrees to which this is complex is kind of amazing. For those who may be interested, go back to WW1 and Britain. In many ways the current story starts there.
The main terrorist attacks in Palestine under the British mandate were done by zionist extremist groups like the Irgun and Stern gang, terrorist organizations which were led by two future Israeli prime ministers, Menachem Begin and Itzak Shamir.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irgun_attacks
Most notorious were the bombing of the King David hotel and the massacre of Deir Yassin, which was done by the Irgun terror cell, led by future PM Begin. They also carried terror attacks in Europe.On 10th March 1948, the zionist paramilitary force, Haganah, adopted Plan Dalet
— Maria (@real1maria) October 26, 2023
One of the most widely publicized village massacres happened at Deir Yassin pic.twitter.com/akCo4DdpRdLong live to war criminals?
— Leo yassin (@Leoyassin1) October 28, 2023
To land thieves?
To Modern Nazis?
To Zionists?
Israel is a terrorist state and war criminals who did nothing to Palestinians except stealing their land and doing Massacres
Tantura massacre
Deir Yassin massacre
Can you say your opinion on this video ? pic.twitter.com/orM2X7bS42
Deir Yassin was a village on high ground that was used by Arabs to attack convoys that were bringing food and water (humanitarian aid for civilians anyone?) to Jerusalem, which was being blockaded by Arabs (crimes against humanity, anyone?). It was a valid military target. Jews allowed Arabs to evacuate the city. Some Arabs feinted leaving and attacked, killing Jews. The Jews fought back, killing Arab fighters and civilians.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-capture-of-deir-yassin
King David bombing…the hotel was a target because Britain reportedly stole Israeli intelligence and housed it there. Some 2500 Jews were also arrested. Israel made 3 warning calls before the bombs went off, which the British refused to heed. Jews were also killed in the attack. Jewish authorities denounced the attack.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/bombing-of-the-king-david-hotel
tequila4kapp said:As is always the case, there are two sides to these stories, not to mention context and back story which generally undercuts the Jews as indiscriminate terrorist narrative.Cal88 said:MinotStateBeav said:I always felt like Britain kinda gets too much blame for their part in this tbh. Did they play a part? yeah, but at the time their hand was also forced by having to deal with terrorist attacks by the palestinians on brits lol.tequila4kapp said:
I have been reading a good deal about the region. It is fascinating. The degrees to which this is complex is kind of amazing. For those who may be interested, go back to WW1 and Britain. In many ways the current story starts there.
The main terrorist attacks in Palestine under the British mandate were done by zionist extremist groups like the Irgun and Stern gang, terrorist organizations which were led by two future Israeli prime ministers, Menachem Begin and Itzak Shamir.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Irgun_attacks
Most notorious were the bombing of the King David hotel and the massacre of Deir Yassin, which was done by the Irgun terror cell, led by future PM Begin. They also carried terror attacks in Europe.
Deir Yassin was a village on high ground that was used by Arabs to attack convoys that were bringing food and water (humanitarian aid for civilians anyone?) to Jerusalem, which was being blockaded by Arabs (crimes against humanity, anyone?). It was a valid military target. Jews allowed Arabs to evacuate the city. Some Arabs feinted leaving and attacked, killing Jews. The Jews fought back, killing Arab fighters and civilians.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-capture-of-deir-yassin
King David bombing…the hotel was a target because Britain reportedly stole Israeli intelligence and housed it there. Some 2500 Jews were also arrested. Israel made 3 warning calls before the bombs went off, which the British refused to heed. Jews were also killed in the attack. Jewish authorities denounced the attack.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/bombing-of-the-king-david-hotel
So Jewish authorities planned the bombing of the main hotel in Jerusalem, killing 91 people, and then they denounced it??
Did you watch the video I posted above of the people who carried the Deir Yassin and Tantura massacres?
Here they are:
🇵🇸🇮🇱 Retired IDF soldiers talk about their experience in the Israeli military and laugh as they do so.
— Censored Men (@CensoredMen) October 8, 2023
“One of the soldiers r*ped a 16-year-girl *laugh*”
“He put Palestinians in a cage and killed them”
“Soldiers chased villagers with flamethrowers and set them on fire”
“If I… pic.twitter.com/Kz4Dcai1jt
Deir Yassin was carried over as a purely terroristic operation, it was an incredibly sadistic and violent massacre of an entire town that was meant to send the message to the Arab villagers to pack up and leave their villages if they didn't want to be next. That massacre was the proverbial embodiment of terrorism, which is defined as "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims". The aim here was ethnic cleansing.
The spirit of Deir Yassin is alive and well in Israel, a former Irgun terrorist who participated in that massacre is being officially used as an Israeli army elder figure and cheerleader advocating the massacre of all Palestinians in Gaza:
😱
— TheRealBiffBifford 🇺🇸 (@TBifford) October 24, 2023
Ezra Yachin (95), Israeli Army Reservist and Former Member of the “Stern Gang” Who Committed the “Deir Yassin Massacre”
in a video message to Israeli soldiers and civilians: "Finish them [Palestinians] off and don't leave anyone behind."
🔉 pic.twitter.com/DdfjAUIlHl
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