The Non-Yogi Israel-Palestine war thread

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"President Trump on Tuesday shared an AI-generated video depicting the devastated Gaza Strip as an opulent resort emblazoned with his name. The video was immediately scorned by many Palestinians."
-NY Times



Trump Shares Bizarre AI Vision For Gaza 'Riviera' Utopia


https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-shares-bizarre-ai-generated-vision-for-gaza-utopia-complete-with-bearded-belly-dancers-and-gold-statue-of-himself/

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I find that video vile.
I find it disgusting that Trump shared it.
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Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of US Aid over 310 billion

Since the start of Israel's war with Hamas on October 7, 2023, the United States has enacted legislation providing at least $12.5 billion in direct military aid to Israel, which includes $3.8 billion from a bill in March 2024 (in line with the current MOU) and $8.7 billion from a supplemental appropriations act in April 2024. Other analystsLinda J. Bilmes, William D. Hartung, and Stephen Semler, from Brown Universityhave reported [PDF] that Israel received $17.9 billion in U.S. military aid during this period, a figure that additionally accounts for the cost to the U.S. Defense Department of replenishing the stock of weapons provided to Israel.

"You don't see minority groups fleeing Israel". Really? Well the Israelis are displacing Palestinians in the West Bank, murdering then in Gaza and also wiping out people in Lebanon and Syria so maybe killing them at home is less needed. Interestingly the people who are leaving Israel are Israelis

From Yonaton Mendel " Live by the Sword", NY Review of Books

"In an interview last October with the website Ynet, the historian Yuval Noah Harari estimated that many more Israelisbetween 200,000 and 500,000would leave, mainly "due to the feeling that Israel's social contract has been cut into shreds."

With regard the Gaza Even Moshe Ya'alon, a former Israeli chief of staff and minister of defense, described this campaign using the terminology of crimes against humanity. In an interview with the Hebrew channel Democrat-TV, he said that Israel has moved in northern Gaza from conquering to ethnic cleansing. The interviewer was not sure she heard right, and Ya'alon explained: "This is what's happening there. There's no Beit Lahia. There's no Beit Hanoun. The army is currently operating in Jabalia, and essentially, they are cleaning the area of Arabs."

In the same interview he suggested that Israel is turning into a "corrupt and leprous fascist Messianic state." Indeed, last October the settler nonprofit Nachala held an event near the Gaza border in support of resettling the Strip. Twenty-one legislators participated. "Encouraging Palestinian emigration from Gaza is the most ethical solution!" Ben-Gvir said. "Encouraging Palestinian departure is rational! It is right! It is the truth! It is the Torah and it is the only way! And yes, it is also humane."

In the following month, as the Knesset's winter session began, legislators advanced a barrage of bills: one, known as the "persecution of teachers law," to permit firing school teachers for anything that could be understood as "support or identification with terrorism," which in practice can include simply calling the occupation illegal; another bill to ease the process for disqualifying Arab MPs and Arab parties, again under the pretense of combating "terrorism"; a third to ban the work of the UN Relief and Works Agency; a fourth to allow Israeli police officers to investigate suspected incitement to terrorism without approval from the state attorney's office; and a fifth, known as "the silence law," to limit academic speech by obliging universities to fire immediately, in an expedited procedure and without compensation, lecturers who express themselves in a way that could be interpreted as too radical. "

In 2018 the Knesset's Jewish nationality bill" not only removed the symbolic status of Arabic as an official languagea collective right held over from British Mandatory legislation in 1922but also declared that the right to exercise national self-determination was "exclusive to the Jewish people." It was as if Israel thought it had solved the conflict by, in effect, telling Palestinians to move on. ". From Live by the Sword, Mendel

And finally I don't think you want to engage in a contest of dead baby posting …ironically the Bibas family would agree with me



https://www.nybooks.com/online/2025/01/25/israel-life-by-the-sword/

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Two more victims of the Hannibal Doctrine, which Israel has aggressively implemented on October 7 and through its ongoing Gaza campaign, killing several hundred hostages. The Bibas babies were victims of this doctrine which consists of Israel actually targeting hostages along with their captors.
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CaliforniaEternal said:

Gaza death cult supporters can take pride in the fact that you support those that kidnap and choke babies to death. Let's see you get back on the streets now and scream to support this scum.



The real death cult here are the people pushing this kind of fake war gore, like this guy Eli pushing a fake narrative of these babies having been strangled to death, when in fact they were bombed by the Israelis, according to their own parents.

40 decapitated babies, and 2 choked to death: fake narratives of the Israeli death cult.
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Anarchistbear said:

BearGoggles said:

Anarchistbear said:

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Anarchistbear said:

I'm glad I live in a country not driven by
Ethno- religious nationalism like all the Israelis who post here
Interesting you focus on only the Israelis. You don't seem to have anything to say about Political Islamists or Jihadists who want to establish Sharia law societies, the 27 countries where Islam is the official religion, or the 13-15 countries with Christianity is the official religion.

Somehow only Israel is a big enough problem for you to post about. I wonder what explains that? Actually, I don't wonder.




Because I'm an American and I don't want the US government pouring non stop money into genocide. But for you of course there is only one possibility…anti-semitism which is a cruel joke and a false flag
Way to move the goals posts from the claimed objection to Ethno-religious nationalism (focused only on Israel) to false claims of genocide. I note you didn't answer my question - do you object to Islamic or Christian ethno-religious nationalism? It is a yes or no question.

And if the answer is yes, why haven't you posted bout that? Why don't you object to US funds going to those ethno-religious countries. Literally billions of US dollars flow to those countries.

Putting aside the falsity of the claim, why don't you object to the actual genocides that occur in other places, such as Syria, China, and many places in Africa? America sends $$ to those places.

And, in particular, why don't you object to US funding of Hamas, which engages in terrorism and expressly advocates for genocide? Again, you only have criticism of one country.

Whether you like it or not, holding a Jewish state to a different standard is antisemitism. You should just own it.



Stop with the lawyering bull****. This is a thread devoted to Israel- Palestine. Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of US aid. This money and weaponry is used for systematic killing, starvation and destruction. When other countries receive US aid on this scale and do same I'll be glad to condemn them.

Your fundamentalist identity politics and lust for blood have blinded you to the damage Israel has done to itself and the standing of Jews. By conflating "anti-semitism" with " anti- Israeli" they have cynically excused this massacre with tired "never again" tropes. Most Jews with a moral center recognize this and also the cruel duplicity of this- the victims of war criminals now committing them

LMAO - which one of us is conflating antisemitism and anti-Israel? You literally conflated the two above. It is definitionally antisemitic.

I must have missed your posts where you discussed:

  • The damage done to the standing of Muslims by Iran, Syria, Hamas, Hezbollah, Boko Haram, ISIS and other terrorist groups.
  • The damage done to Christians by South Africa or the Vatican
  • Your discussion of how "most Arabs/Muslims" feel about Hamas/Iran/Isis/etc.

Thank you for so clearly exposing your bigotry.
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tequila4kapp said:

I find that video vile.
I find it disgusting that Trump shared it.

It's working. Bearister and DiabloWags posted it in 5 other threads.
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Are we sure that was a troll? The Trump statue and branding would be so on point for him.
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The "Trump likes to troll Libs " and TDS excuses aren't masking the mental illness and lack of judgment anymore. He has become a whirling dervish of cray cray that has now exceeded his supporters' ability to paste a palatable spin on it.



*Why don't you admit that even your initial reaction was that it was Fake News, a Deep Fake or someone hacked his Truth Social account and then you spent some time researching to support that conclusion. I know I did. I was aware he has mentally degraded but I didn't think it was to this extent.

*You can see Musk's finger prints all over that AI Gaza video. He even pulls a power play by mocking Trump depicting him as fat. He had Trump at the Golden Idol so he was able to slip the fat shaming by the old man.


…he even got the double chin by him because all Trump processed was being depicted as a player (this was also a "f@uck you" to Melania):

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It's beyond belief what the Gaza death cultists did, invading a peaceful community, killing a girl in front of her family, live streaming it, then kidnapping the dad and killing him in Gaza. Tsachi Idan's body was finally returned to Israel yesterday. It defies belief that anyone can support this kind of death cult.

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Return of the King said:



This is false.

I condemn the statements and stated ideas of Nissim Vaturi. They are wrong and repugnant.

The vast majority of American "Zionists" would do the same if they are asked. The reality is that Vaturi is a fringe person with extreme views and most people in the US are not aware of his extreme statements. Certainly no mainstream American Zionist group has endorsed those views.

How many Palestinian supporters (including you) unequivocally condemn the statements of Hamas/Hezbollah and the illegal (and illiberal) actions of the pro-Palestinian "protestors." Have you done so? Maybe you can point me to your posts on this board?

Or better yet, do it now. Yes or no:

Do you condemn "protestors" in the US occupying and trespassing in public spaces?

Do you condemn "protestors" in the US harassing jewish students who support Israel?

Do you condemn "protestors" in the US engaging in destruction of property and otherwise breaking laws?

Do you condemn the Hamas attack on 10/7?

Do you condemn Hamas taking hostages?

Do you condemn Hamas holding the hostages?

Do you condemn Hamas and other Palestinians who reject the two state solution?

Do you condemn Hezbollah firing missles at Israel - unprovoked - starting on 10/8/23 (i.e., one day after the Hamas attack and before Israel invaded Gaza)?

Do you condemn Hamas and Hezbollah firing missiles into Israel indiscriminantly?

Hamas official, Hamad Al-Regeb in an April 2023 sermon: He prayed for "annihilation" and "paralysis" of the Jews whom he described as filthy animals: "[Allah] transformed them into filthy, ugly animals like apes and pigs because of the injustice and evil they had brought about." Al-Regeb also prayed for the ability to "get to the necks of the Jews." Do you condemn this?

On July 12, 2019, at a March of Return rally that aired on Hamas's Al-Aqsa TV, Hamas Political Bureau member Fathi Hammad implored "you seven million Palestinians abroad, enough warming up! There are Jews everywhere! We must attack every Jew on planet Earth we must slaughter and kill them, with Allah's help." He instructed, "[w]e will die while exploding and cutting the necks and legs of the Jews. We will lacerate them and tear them to pieces, Allah willing!" Do you condemn this?

On May 7, 2021, on a broadcast on Hamas's Al-Aqsa TV, senior Hamas official Fathi Hammad called for Palestinians in Jerusalem to "cut off the heads of the Jews." Do you condemn this?

I'll wait.

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BearGoggles said:

Return of the King said:



This is false.

I condemn the statements and stated ideas of Nissim Vaturi. They are wrong and repugnant.

The vast majority of American "Zionists" would do the same if they are asked. The reality is that Vaturi is a fringe person with extreme views and most people in the US are not aware of his extreme statements. Certainly no mainstream American Zionist group has endorsed those views.
Says there that he's Deputy Speaker of their Parliament. Doesn't seem that fringe to me. This would be like if Steve Scalise said an ethnic minority should be exterminated here.

And before you start in on it: yes, Hamas is a violent terrorist organization that doesn't deserve our support either. I don't think Gaza has (had) a wonderful government. But let's be honest about what kind of leadership Israel has now.
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I'll save them/you the trouble. Here's the answer:

"…but but but it's the Jew's fault for stealing their land and oppressing Palestinians and committing genocide. Jews brought everything on themselves. Nobody would attack and kill Jews if Jews would just leave Palestine."
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LOL at you all wasting your lives on this board.
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Chapman_is_Gone said:

LOL at you all wasting your lives on this board.

If you're going to waste your life on this board, at least have a good schtick.
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sycasey said:

BearGoggles said:

Return of the King said:



This is false.

I condemn the statements and stated ideas of Nissim Vaturi. They are wrong and repugnant.

The vast majority of American "Zionists" would do the same if they are asked. The reality is that Vaturi is a fringe person with extreme views and most people in the US are not aware of his extreme statements. Certainly no mainstream American Zionist group has endorsed those views.
Says there that he's Deputy Speaker of their Parliament. Doesn't seem that fringe to me. This would be like if Steve Scalise said an ethnic minority should be exterminated here.

And before you start in on it: yes, Hamas is a violent terrorist organization that doesn't deserve our support either. I don't think Gaza has (had) a wonderful government. But let's be honest about what kind of leadership Israel has now.
Thank you for confirming you have no understanding of how a parliament operates when there is no party with a full majority. The comparison is absurd, particularly when our country has only 2 parties that hold 99% of federally elected positions.

In Israel, there are nine deputy speakers, comprised of members of multiple parties, including the far right. That is the nature of the Knesset having no majority party - fringe elements get a seat and sometimes a disproportionate voice. The deputies have no real political power.

https://main.knesset.gov.il/en/mk/apps/mklobby/main/current-knesset-mks/mk-positions

No one outside of Israel has ever heard of Nissim Vaturi. Full stop. His stated views are a minority in Israel, akin to a Cori Bush, Marjorie Taylor Greene or Ilan Omar.



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BearGoggles said:

sycasey said:

BearGoggles said:

Return of the King said:



This is false.

I condemn the statements and stated ideas of Nissim Vaturi. They are wrong and repugnant.

The vast majority of American "Zionists" would do the same if they are asked. The reality is that Vaturi is a fringe person with extreme views and most people in the US are not aware of his extreme statements. Certainly no mainstream American Zionist group has endorsed those views.
Says there that he's Deputy Speaker of their Parliament. Doesn't seem that fringe to me. This would be like if Steve Scalise said an ethnic minority should be exterminated here.

And before you start in on it: yes, Hamas is a violent terrorist organization that doesn't deserve our support either. I don't think Gaza has (had) a wonderful government. But let's be honest about what kind of leadership Israel has now.
Thank you for confirming you have no understanding of how a parliament operates when there is no party with a full majority. The comparison is absurd, particularly when our country has only 2 parties that hold 99% of federally elected positions.

In Israel, there are nine deputy speakers, comprised of members of multiple parties, including the far right. That is the nature of the Knesset having no majority party - fringe elements get a seat and sometimes a disproportionate voice. The deputies have no real political power.

https://main.knesset.gov.il/en/mk/apps/mklobby/main/current-knesset-mks/mk-positions

No one outside of Israel has ever heard of Nissim Vaturi. Full stop. His stated views are a minority in Israel, akin to a Cori Bush, Marjorie Taylor Greene or Ilan Omar.





One of nine and apparently a leading member of the current controlling party (Likud) still seems not that fringe to me, but okay.

I would agree that people outside of Israel probably haven't heard of him, but that would go for deputy legislative officials from any country to outsiders. They still would have significant sway within their own governments.
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Surrounding countries won't take Palestinian refugees because they have already taken millions and know that any Palestinian who is deported by Israel will never be allowed to come back to their ancestral land, that is simple enough.

Millions? Really? Which countries and did they allow the Palestinians to stay?
So there are millions in the surrounding Arab states, millions in Gaza, the West Bank and Israel, and millions more dispersed all over the world making those places miserable. That's a bit hard to reconcile with the fact that at the beginning of the last century, there were only a few hundred thousand Arabs in "Palestine." Maybe this Hamas leader has it right.



There has never been a Palestinian state. There were Arabs living there who lost their land and property in 1947, but there were also many Jews scattered across the Arab world that also lost land and property. Both of those unfortunate outcomes could have been avoided had the Arab states not united to invade Israel to wipe it off the map. Just curious but will the property that Jews lost in that war be restored to them as part of a land for peace deal?


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Another Gaza a Lago video
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Zippergate said:

Surrounding countries won't take Palestinian refugees because they have already taken millions and know that any Palestinian who is deported by Israel will never be allowed to come back to their ancestral land, that is simple enough.
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Millions? Really? Which countries and did they allow the Palestinians to stay?
It is generally agreed that some 700,000 Palestinians were expelled or fled Israel. The millions number likely comes from the only for Palestinians definition of refugee used by the UN which allows us to count descendants who are actually now native to those middle east countries.

The real reasons neighboring countries won't take Palestinians from Gaza is that Palestinians are a destabilizing force:

First, none of these Arab countries are stable democracies. Their leaders fear the citizenry - which is pro Palestinian - will rise up against them. So the governments can't do anything that is perceived as being too overtly pro-Israel or anti-Palestinian.

Second, the Palestinians are not nice guests. They have been expelled from virtually every middle east country but Iraq (under Sadam Hussein), mostly for being an overt political threat to their host country.

Third, the Iran aligned countries care more about annihilating Israel than the plight of the Palestinians. They want the conflict more than they want peace and prosperity for Palestinians.
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tequila4kapp said:

Zippergate said:

Surrounding countries won't take Palestinian refugees because they have already taken millions and know that any Palestinian who is deported by Israel will never be allowed to come back to their ancestral land, that is simple enough.
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Millions? Really? Which countries and did they allow the Palestinians to stay?
It is generally agreed that some 700,000 Palestinians were expelled or fled Israel. The millions number likely comes from the only for Palestinians definition of refugee used by the UN which allows us to count descendants who are actually now native to those middle east countries.

The real reasons neighboring countries won't take Palestinians from Gaza is that Palestinians are a destabilizing force:

First, none of these Arab countries are stable democracies. Their leaders fear the citizenry - which is pro Palestinian - will rise up against them. So the governments can't do anything that is perceived as being too overtly pro-Israel or anti-Palestinian.

Second, the Palestinians are not nice guests. They have been expelled from virtually every middle east country but Iraq (under Sadam Hussein), mostly for being an overt political threat to their host country.

Third, the Iran aligned countries care more about annihilating Israel than the plight of the Palestinians. They want the conflict more than they want peace and prosperity for Palestinians.
This is exactly right and of course many of us have known this. You left out the terrorist elements that use violence and seem to dominate Palestinian society.

But the pro-Hamas crowd on here will never admit this. And that is because most of these factors also explain why Israel cannot reach peace with the Palestinians when they support Hamas and other similar groups.
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CaliforniaEternal said:

It's beyond belief what the Gaza death cultists did, invading a peaceful community, killing a girl in front of her family, live streaming it, then kidnapping the dad and killing him in Gaza. Tsachi Idan's body was finally returned to Israel yesterday. It defies belief that anyone can support this kind of death cult.


Now the Israeli death cult is cutting off all aid to Gaza. Sad day for humanity:
https://time.com/7263440/israel-cuts-off-supplies-to-gaza-what-that-means/

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Return of the King said:





The guy you wanted to win the election is doing a bang up job for you:

"Washington, D.C. The Trump administration has approved a major nearly $3 billion arms sale to Israel, bypassing a normal congressional review to provide the country with more of the 2,000-pound bombs that it has used in its war against Hamas in Gaza.

In a series of notifications sent to Congress late Friday, the State Department said it had signed off on the sale of more than 35,500 MK 84 and BLU-117 bombs and 4,000 Predator warheads worth $2.04 billion."

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-approves-3-billion-arms-sale-israel/

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The Hamas death cult deserves no supplies until they hand over all hostages and are disarmed. And Egypt and other Middle Eastern countries all agree. Freedom is not supporting Hamas, yet that's whose side you're on.

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Return of the King said:





Are liberals the ones sidestepping congress to send Israel $4 billion of arms presently?

Nah, that's your boy doing that all on his own!

I understand why you deleted this, but I can still quote it, you doofus.
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Haloski said:

Return of the King said:





Are liberals the ones sidestepping congress to send Israel $4 billion of arms presently?

Nah, that's your boy doing that all on his own!

I understand why you deleted this, but I can still quote it, you doofus.
I'm not defending Yogi, but many of his deletions are involuntary and not of his doing. His accounts and posts get deleted frequently by the BI staff. Yogi just resurrects his account and starts again. I think he believes he's winning in some way. If you look at his account profile, the creation date is usually within the last week or so.
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No Other Land a joint Israeli- Palestinian production wins Oscar. Even the Jews who control Hollywood are now anti- semites
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Haloski said:

Return of the King said:





Are liberals the ones sidestepping congress to send Israel $4 billion of arms presently?

Nah, that's your boy doing that all on his own!

I understand why you deleted this, but I can still quote it, you doofus.
I'm not defending Yogi, but many of his deletions are involuntary and not of his doing. His accounts and posts get deleted frequently by the BI staff. Yogi just resurrects his account and starts again. I think he believes he's winning in some way. If you look at his account profile, the creation date is usually within the last week or so.

He's basically getting banned for having sock puppet accounts, so he just creates more sock puppets.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

Haloski said:

Return of the King said:





Are liberals the ones sidestepping congress to send Israel $4 billion of arms presently?

Nah, that's your boy doing that all on his own!

I understand why you deleted this, but I can still quote it, you doofus.
I'm not defending Yogi, but many of his deletions are involuntary and not of his doing. His accounts and posts get deleted frequently by the BI staff. Yogi just resurrects his account and starts again. I think he believes he's winning in some way. If you look at his account profile, the creation date is usually within the last week or so.


lol

Ok then
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CaliforniaEternal said:

The Hamas death cult deserves no supplies until they hand over all hostages and are disarmed. And Egypt and other Middle Eastern countries all agree. Freedom is not supporting Hamas, yet that's whose side you're on.


I see, you only want freedom for Israelis but not for Palestinians. So you admit that you support killing and starving innocent Palestinians. I have not further need to deal with a terrorist like you.
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calpoly said:

CaliforniaEternal said:

The Hamas death cult deserves no supplies until they hand over all hostages and are disarmed. And Egypt and other Middle Eastern countries all agree. Freedom is not supporting Hamas, yet that's whose side you're on.


I see, you only want freedom for Israelis but not for Palestinians. So you admit that you support killing and starving innocent Palestinians. I have not further need to deal with a terrorist like you.

Ouch, what about living under Hamas equates to freedom? Do you also support the Taliban and Al Qaeda? You don't get to launch an attack where you kill over a thousand people in a few hours including shooting babies sleeping in their cribs and then get to play victim.
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CaliforniaEternal said:

calpoly said:

CaliforniaEternal said:

The Hamas death cult deserves no supplies until they hand over all hostages and are disarmed. And Egypt and other Middle Eastern countries all agree. Freedom is not supporting Hamas, yet that's whose side you're on.


I see, you only want freedom for Israelis but not for Palestinians. So you admit that you support killing and starving innocent Palestinians. I have not further need to deal with a terrorist like you.

Ouch, what about living under Hamas equates to freedom? Do you also support the Taliban and Al Qaeda? You don't get to launch an attack where you kill over a thousand people in a few hours including shooting babies sleeping in their cribs and then get to play victim.

Or launching a 15 month bombing campaign using the equivalent of 4 Hiroshima bombs on an overpopulated, starved and blockaded enclave the size of Manhattan, targeting all civilian infrastructure resulting in the death of over 100,000 people?
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Anarchistbear said:



No Other Land a joint Israeli- Palestinian production wins Oscar. Even the Jews who control Hollywood are now anti- semites

 
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