CaliforniaEternal said:

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If your version of recommended reading is someone pushing a blood libel accusing Israel of genocide, then you have some serious problems. This is why attacks like the firebombing in Boulder and other antisemitic violence and hate crimes keep happening all over the world. When people accept the big lie that Israel is committing genocide, then it's open season on anyone who in their mind is somehow linked or supporting this genocide. Truly terrifying logic but it's just a mutation of previous antisemitic blood libels throughout history.

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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If your version of recommended reading is someone pushing a blood libel accusing Israel of genocide, then you have some serious problems. This is why attacks like the firebombing in Boulder and other antisemitic violence and hate crimes keep happening all over the world. When people accept the big lie that Israel is committing genocide, then it's open season on anyone who in their mind is somehow linked or supporting this genocide. Truly terrifying logic but it's just a mutation of previous antisemitic blood libels throughout history.

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It should be obvious to anyone outside your fundamentalist religious cult that the actions of the Israeli genocide is threatening Jews worldwide and, furthermore since you guys are conflating anti- Israel as antisemitism, you reap what you sow.

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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If your version of recommended reading is someone pushing a blood libel accusing Israel of genocide, then you have some serious problems. This is why attacks like the firebombing in Boulder and other antisemitic violence and hate crimes keep happening all over the world. When people accept the big lie that Israel is committing genocide, then it's open season on anyone who in their mind is somehow linked or supporting this genocide. Truly terrifying logic but it's just a mutation of previous antisemitic blood libels throughout history.

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It should be obvious to anyone outside your fundamentalist religious cult that the actions of the Israeli genocide is threatening Jews worldwide and, furthermore since you guys are conflating anti- Israel as antisemitism, you reap what you sow.

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Reap what I sow? If you claim Jews don't have a right to live in Israel or support the right to support the state of Israel you are an antisemite. There's no conflation on that one whatsoever. Your free Palestine crowd doesn't care about any actual policies of the Israeli government, you just want the Jews to disappear from there by whatever violent means your Hamas friends choose.

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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If your version of recommended reading is someone pushing a blood libel accusing Israel of genocide, then you have some serious problems. This is why attacks like the firebombing in Boulder and other antisemitic violence and hate crimes keep happening all over the world. When people accept the big lie that Israel is committing genocide, then it's open season on anyone who in their mind is somehow linked or supporting this genocide. Truly terrifying logic but it's just a mutation of previous antisemitic blood libels throughout history.

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It should be obvious to anyone outside your fundamentalist religious cult that the actions of the Israeli genocide is threatening Jews worldwide and, furthermore since you guys are conflating anti- Israel as antisemitism, you reap what you sow.

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Reap what I sow? If you claim Jews don't have a right to live in Israel or support the right to support the state of Israel you are an antisemite. There's no conflation on that one whatsoever. Your free Palestine crowd doesn't care about any actual policies of the Israeli government, you just want the Jews to disappear from there by whatever violent means your Hamas friends choose.

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Israel is committing a genocide and the blow back from this is imperiling Jews worldwide. Jews have a right to express themselves- many bravely denounce Israel- but supporting a genocide doesn't protect you from anti semitism, if anti Israeli equals anti semitism.

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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If your version of recommended reading is someone pushing a blood libel accusing Israel of genocide, then you have some serious problems. This is why attacks like the firebombing in Boulder and other antisemitic violence and hate crimes keep happening all over the world. When people accept the big lie that Israel is committing genocide, then it's open season on anyone who in their mind is somehow linked or supporting this genocide. Truly terrifying logic but it's just a mutation of previous antisemitic blood libels throughout history.

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It should be obvious to anyone outside your fundamentalist religious cult that the actions of the Israeli genocide is threatening Jews worldwide and, furthermore since you guys are conflating anti- Israel as antisemitism, you reap what you sow.

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Reap what I sow? If you claim Jews don't have a right to live in Israel or support the right to support the state of Israel you are an antisemite. There's no conflation on that one whatsoever. Your free Palestine crowd doesn't care about any actual policies of the Israeli government, you just want the Jews to disappear from there by whatever violent means your Hamas friends choose.

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Israel is committing a genocide and the blow back from this is imperiling Jews worldwide. Jews have a right to express themselves- many bravely denounce Israel- but supporting a genocide doesn't protect you from anti semitism, if anti Israeli equals anti semitism.

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If you believe loudly opposing Israel and agreeing that Israel is committing genocide is the only way Jews in the US can be guaranteed safety in your view, then you are an antisemite. Announcing a claim of genocide as an absolute fact and treating everything that comes out of Hamas's mouth as gospel (remember when Hamas announced 500 people were killed at Al-ahli hospital mere moments after an explosion in the parking lot there) and excusing every act of violence done in the name of opposing Israel is antisemitism. It just is, no matter how you choose to label it (we're just anti-Zionist and anti-Israel I tell you even as we firebomb a synagogue!!!)

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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If your version of recommended reading is someone pushing a blood libel accusing Israel of genocide, then you have some serious problems. This is why attacks like the firebombing in Boulder and other antisemitic violence and hate crimes keep happening all over the world. When people accept the big lie that Israel is committing genocide, then it's open season on anyone who in their mind is somehow linked or supporting this genocide. Truly terrifying logic but it's just a mutation of previous antisemitic blood libels throughout history.

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It should be obvious to anyone outside your fundamentalist religious cult that the actions of the Israeli genocide is threatening Jews worldwide and, furthermore since you guys are conflating anti- Israel as antisemitism, you reap what you sow.

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Reap what I sow? If you claim Jews don't have a right to live in Israel or support the right to support the state of Israel you are an antisemite. There's no conflation on that one whatsoever. Your free Palestine crowd doesn't care about any actual policies of the Israeli government, you just want the Jews to disappear from there by whatever violent means your Hamas friends choose.

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Israel is committing a genocide and the blow back from this is imperiling Jews worldwide. Jews have a right to express themselves- many bravely denounce Israel- but supporting a genocide doesn't protect you from anti semitism, if anti Israeli equals anti semitism.

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If you believe loudly opposing Israel and agreeing that Israel is committing genocide is the only way Jews in the US can be guaranteed safety in your view, then you are an antisemite. Announcing a claim of genocide as an absolute fact and treating everything that comes out of Hamas's mouth as gospel (remember when Hamas announced 500 people were killed at Al-ahli hospital mere moments after an explosion in the parking lot there) and excusing every act of violence done in the name of opposing Israel is antisemitism. It just is, no matter how you choose to label it (we're just anti-Zionist and anti-Israel I tell you even as we firebomb a synagogue!!!)

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Anti semitism is trivial in the US. Jews are not persecuted and operate at the highest levels of society. Of course these acts of violence are deplorable but they are random individuals and- most importantly- not state sponsored.

In fact the full force of the US backs Israel and any deviation from this is not tolerated and punishable out of proportion to any harm to Jews. Contrast that with the state of Israel massacring babies and starving people to death which is fully condoned and supported by the US.

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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If your version of recommended reading is someone pushing a blood libel accusing Israel of genocide, then you have some serious problems. This is why attacks like the firebombing in Boulder and other antisemitic violence and hate crimes keep happening all over the world. When people accept the big lie that Israel is committing genocide, then it's open season on anyone who in their mind is somehow linked or supporting this genocide. Truly terrifying logic but it's just a mutation of previous antisemitic blood libels throughout history.

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It should be obvious to anyone outside your fundamentalist religious cult that the actions of the Israeli genocide is threatening Jews worldwide and, furthermore since you guys are conflating anti- Israel as antisemitism, you reap what you sow.

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Reap what I sow? If you claim Jews don't have a right to live in Israel or support the right to support the state of Israel you are an antisemite. There's no conflation on that one whatsoever. Your free Palestine crowd doesn't care about any actual policies of the Israeli government, you just want the Jews to disappear from there by whatever violent means your Hamas friends choose.

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Israel is committing a genocide and the blow back from this is imperiling Jews worldwide. Jews have a right to express themselves- many bravely denounce Israel- but supporting a genocide doesn't protect you from anti semitism, if anti Israeli equals anti semitism.

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If you believe loudly opposing Israel and agreeing that Israel is committing genocide is the only way Jews in the US can be guaranteed safety in your view, then you are an antisemite. Announcing a claim of genocide as an absolute fact and treating everything that comes out of Hamas's mouth as gospel (remember when Hamas announced 500 people were killed at Al-ahli hospital mere moments after an explosion in the parking lot there) and excusing every act of violence done in the name of opposing Israel is antisemitism. It just is, no matter how you choose to label it (we're just anti-Zionist and anti-Israel I tell you even as we firebomb a synagogue!!!)

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Anti semitism is trivial in the US. Jews are not persecuted and operate at the highest levels of society. Of course these acts of violence are deplorable but they are random individuals and- most importantly- not state sponsored.

In fact the full force of the US backs Israel and any deviation from this is not tolerated and punishable out of proportion to any harm to Jews. Contrast that with the state of Israel massacring babies and starving people to death which is fully condoned and supported by the US.

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You are no friend of the Jews that much is absolutely certain. There are more hate crimes targeting Jews per capita than any other religious or ethnic group in the US and it's not even close. Your rationalization and minimization of this problem is pretty darn troubling. I doubt you'd openly support an acceptable level of hate crimes against any other group, but this double standard is a hallmark of antisemites.

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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If your version of recommended reading is someone pushing a blood libel accusing Israel of genocide, then you have some serious problems. This is why attacks like the firebombing in Boulder and other antisemitic violence and hate crimes keep happening all over the world. When people accept the big lie that Israel is committing genocide, then it's open season on anyone who in their mind is somehow linked or supporting this genocide. Truly terrifying logic but it's just a mutation of previous antisemitic blood libels throughout history.

---

It should be obvious to anyone outside your fundamentalist religious cult that the actions of the Israeli genocide is threatening Jews worldwide and, furthermore since you guys are conflating anti- Israel as antisemitism, you reap what you sow.

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Reap what I sow? If you claim Jews don't have a right to live in Israel or support the right to support the state of Israel you are an antisemite. There's no conflation on that one whatsoever. Your free Palestine crowd doesn't care about any actual policies of the Israeli government, you just want the Jews to disappear from there by whatever violent means your Hamas friends choose.

---

Israel is committing a genocide and the blow back from this is imperiling Jews worldwide. Jews have a right to express themselves- many bravely denounce Israel- but supporting a genocide doesn't protect you from anti semitism, if anti Israeli equals anti semitism.

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If you believe loudly opposing Israel and agreeing that Israel is committing genocide is the only way Jews in the US can be guaranteed safety in your view, then you are an antisemite. Announcing a claim of genocide as an absolute fact and treating everything that comes out of Hamas's mouth as gospel (remember when Hamas announced 500 people were killed at Al-ahli hospital mere moments after an explosion in the parking lot there) and excusing every act of violence done in the name of opposing Israel is antisemitism. It just is, no matter how you choose to label it (we're just anti-Zionist and anti-Israel I tell you even as we firebomb a synagogue!!!)

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Anti semitism is trivial in the US. Jews are not persecuted and operate at the highest levels of society. Of course these acts of violence are deplorable but they are random individuals and- most importantly- not state sponsored.

In fact the full force of the US backs Israel and any deviation from this is not tolerated and punishable out of proportion to any harm to Jews. Contrast that with the state of Israel massacring babies and starving people to death which is fully condoned and supported by the US.

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You are no friend of the Jews that much is absolutely certain. There are more hate crimes targeting Jews per capita than any other religious or ethnic group in the US and it's not even close. Your rationalization and minimization of this problem is pretty darn troubling. I doubt you'd openly support an acceptable level of hate crimes against any other group, but this double standard is a hallmark of antisemites.

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Stop with this stupidity. Are Jews being deprived citizenship, are they being driven from their homes, are they being annihilated, are they being starved to death ? Well, the Jews are doing that to Palestinians in Gaza.

Don't compare insults to your precious upper middle class woke identity with genocide.

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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There's a way to criticize the Israeli government without your standard line of accusing any war act as genocide.

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If Jews are murdered anywhere in the world for being Jewish it's Israel's fault…that's sick.

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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If your version of recommended reading is someone pushing a blood libel accusing Israel of genocide, then you have some serious problems. This is why attacks like the firebombing in Boulder and other antisemitic violence and hate crimes keep happening all over the world. When people accept the big lie that Israel is committing genocide, then it's open season on anyone who in their mind is somehow linked or supporting this genocide. Truly terrifying logic but it's just a mutation of previous antisemitic blood libels throughout history.

---

It should be obvious to anyone outside your fundamentalist religious cult that the actions of the Israeli genocide is threatening Jews worldwide and, furthermore since you guys are conflating anti- Israel as antisemitism, you reap what you sow.

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Reap what I sow? If you claim Jews don't have a right to live in Israel or support the right to support the state of Israel you are an antisemite. There's no conflation on that one whatsoever. Your free Palestine crowd doesn't care about any actual policies of the Israeli government, you just want the Jews to disappear from there by whatever violent means your Hamas friends choose.

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Israel is committing a genocide and the blow back from this is imperiling Jews worldwide. Jews have a right to express themselves- many bravely denounce Israel- but supporting a genocide doesn't protect you from anti semitism, if anti Israeli equals anti semitism.

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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If your version of recommended reading is someone pushing a blood libel accusing Israel of genocide, then you have some serious problems. This is why attacks like the firebombing in Boulder and other antisemitic violence and hate crimes keep happening all over the world. When people accept the big lie that Israel is committing genocide, then it's open season on anyone who in their mind is somehow linked or supporting this genocide. Truly terrifying logic but it's just a mutation of previous antisemitic blood libels throughout history.

---

It should be obvious to anyone outside your fundamentalist religious cult that the actions of the Israeli genocide is threatening Jews worldwide and, furthermore since you guys are conflating anti- Israel as antisemitism, you reap what you sow.

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Reap what I sow? If you claim Jews don't have a right to live in Israel or support the right to support the state of Israel you are an antisemite. There's no conflation on that one whatsoever. Your free Palestine crowd doesn't care about any actual policies of the Israeli government, you just want the Jews to disappear from there by whatever violent means your Hamas friends choose.

---

Israel is committing a genocide and the blow back from this is imperiling Jews worldwide. Jews have a right to express themselves- many bravely denounce Israel- but supporting a genocide doesn't protect you from anti semitism, if anti Israeli equals anti semitism.

---

If you believe loudly opposing Israel and agreeing that Israel is committing genocide is the only way Jews in the US can be guaranteed safety in your view, then you are an antisemite. Announcing a claim of genocide as an absolute fact and treating everything that comes out of Hamas's mouth as gospel (remember when Hamas announced 500 people were killed at Al-ahli hospital mere moments after an explosion in the parking lot there) and excusing every act of violence done in the name of opposing Israel is antisemitism. It just is, no matter how you choose to label it (we're just anti-Zionist and anti-Israel I tell you even as we firebomb a synagogue!!!)

---

Anti semitism is trivial in the US. Jews are not persecuted and operate at the highest levels of society. Of course these acts of violence are deplorable but they are random individuals and- most importantly- not state sponsored.

In fact the full force of the US backs Israel and any deviation from this is not tolerated and punishable out of proportion to any harm to Jews. Contrast that with the state of Israel massacring babies and starving people to death which is fully condoned and supported by the US.

---

You are no friend of the Jews that much is absolutely certain. There are more hate crimes targeting Jews per capita than any other religious or ethnic group in the US and it's not even close. Your rationalization and minimization of this problem is pretty darn troubling. I doubt you'd openly support an acceptable level of hate crimes against any other group, but this double standard is a hallmark of antisemites.

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Stop with this stupidity. Are Jews being deprived citizenship, are they being driven from their homes, are they being annihilated, are they being starved to death ? Well, the Jews are doing that to Palestinians in Gaza.

Don't compare insults to your precious upper middle class woke identity with genocide.

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You are literally a caricature of an antisemite. It's laughable how pathetic it sounds. In your last few posts, you cover all the classic antisemitic arguments. Jews have power at very high levels and use it for nefarious purposes (where else have we heard that?). Jews kill babies deliberately. You left out the part about using the babies blood for matzas though. Jews are annihilating another group of people, displacing them at every turn, never mind that their population has been growing for eight decades, yet this annihilation is everlasting. You need a more convincing act because it doesn't fool anyone.

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Israel is so inefficient though. Why don't they create gas chambers and get it over with?

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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If your version of recommended reading is someone pushing a blood libel accusing Israel of genocide, then you have some serious problems. This is why attacks like the firebombing in Boulder and other antisemitic violence and hate crimes keep happening all over the world. When people accept the big lie that Israel is committing genocide, then it's open season on anyone who in their mind is somehow linked or supporting this genocide. Truly terrifying logic but it's just a mutation of previous antisemitic blood libels throughout history.

---

It should be obvious to anyone outside your fundamentalist religious cult that the actions of the Israeli genocide is threatening Jews worldwide and, furthermore since you guys are conflating anti- Israel as antisemitism, you reap what you sow.

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Reap what I sow? If you claim Jews don't have a right to live in Israel or support the right to support the state of Israel you are an antisemite. There's no conflation on that one whatsoever. Your free Palestine crowd doesn't care about any actual policies of the Israeli government, you just want the Jews to disappear from there by whatever violent means your Hamas friends choose.

---

Israel is committing a genocide and the blow back from this is imperiling Jews worldwide. Jews have a right to express themselves- many bravely denounce Israel- but supporting a genocide doesn't protect you from anti semitism, if anti Israeli equals anti semitism.

---

If you believe loudly opposing Israel and agreeing that Israel is committing genocide is the only way Jews in the US can be guaranteed safety in your view, then you are an antisemite. Announcing a claim of genocide as an absolute fact and treating everything that comes out of Hamas's mouth as gospel (remember when Hamas announced 500 people were killed at Al-ahli hospital mere moments after an explosion in the parking lot there) and excusing every act of violence done in the name of opposing Israel is antisemitism. It just is, no matter how you choose to label it (we're just anti-Zionist and anti-Israel I tell you even as we firebomb a synagogue!!!)

---

Anti semitism is trivial in the US. Jews are not persecuted and operate at the highest levels of society. Of course these acts of violence are deplorable but they are random individuals and- most importantly- not state sponsored.

In fact the full force of the US backs Israel and any deviation from this is not tolerated and punishable out of proportion to any harm to Jews. Contrast that with the state of Israel massacring babies and starving people to death which is fully condoned and supported by the US.

---

You are no friend of the Jews that much is absolutely certain. There are more hate crimes targeting Jews per capita than any other religious or ethnic group in the US and it's not even close. Your rationalization and minimization of this problem is pretty darn troubling. I doubt you'd openly support an acceptable level of hate crimes against any other group, but this double standard is a hallmark of antisemites.

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Stop with this stupidity. Are Jews being deprived citizenship, are they being driven from their homes, are they being annihilated, are they being starved to death ? Well, the Jews are doing that to Palestinians in Gaza.

Don't compare insults to your precious upper middle class woke identity with genocide.

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You are literally a caricature of an antisemite. It's laughable how pathetic it sounds. In your last few posts, you cover all the classic antisemitic arguments. Jews have power at very high levels and use it for nefarious purposes (where else have we heard that?). Jews kill babies deliberately. You left out the part about using the babies blood for matzas though. Jews are annihilating another group of people, displacing them at every turn, never mind that their population has been growing for eight decades, yet this annihilation is everlasting. You need a more convincing act because it doesn't fool anyone.

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Anti semitism is currently a canard but as a result of Gaza the danger to Jews is increasing worldwide

The world has been fooled by Israel but the tide is turning. They always had international favor as an embattled but honest state. No more. As a result young Israelis are emigrating and the world is finally taking notice- way too late.

Israel is increasingly marginalized; of course messianic states don't care. In the process their only allies will remain reactionary right wing religious and other nut jobs in the US who see this as a third act of some apocalyptic revelation.

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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If your version of recommended reading is someone pushing a blood libel accusing Israel of genocide, then you have some serious problems. This is why attacks like the firebombing in Boulder and other antisemitic violence and hate crimes keep happening all over the world. When people accept the big lie that Israel is committing genocide, then it's open season on anyone who in their mind is somehow linked or supporting this genocide. Truly terrifying logic but it's just a mutation of previous antisemitic blood libels throughout history.

---

It should be obvious to anyone outside your fundamentalist religious cult that the actions of the Israeli genocide is threatening Jews worldwide and, furthermore since you guys are conflating anti- Israel as antisemitism, you reap what you sow.

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Reap what I sow? If you claim Jews don't have a right to live in Israel or support the right to support the state of Israel you are an antisemite. There's no conflation on that one whatsoever. Your free Palestine crowd doesn't care about any actual policies of the Israeli government, you just want the Jews to disappear from there by whatever violent means your Hamas friends choose.

---

Israel is committing a genocide and the blow back from this is imperiling Jews worldwide. Jews have a right to express themselves- many bravely denounce Israel- but supporting a genocide doesn't protect you from anti semitism, if anti Israeli equals anti semitism.

---

If you believe loudly opposing Israel and agreeing that Israel is committing genocide is the only way Jews in the US can be guaranteed safety in your view, then you are an antisemite. Announcing a claim of genocide as an absolute fact and treating everything that comes out of Hamas's mouth as gospel (remember when Hamas announced 500 people were killed at Al-ahli hospital mere moments after an explosion in the parking lot there) and excusing every act of violence done in the name of opposing Israel is antisemitism. It just is, no matter how you choose to label it (we're just anti-Zionist and anti-Israel I tell you even as we firebomb a synagogue!!!)

---

Anti semitism is trivial in the US. Jews are not persecuted and operate at the highest levels of society. Of course these acts of violence are deplorable but they are random individuals and- most importantly- not state sponsored.

In fact the full force of the US backs Israel and any deviation from this is not tolerated and punishable out of proportion to any harm to Jews. Contrast that with the state of Israel massacring babies and starving people to death which is fully condoned and supported by the US.

---

You are no friend of the Jews that much is absolutely certain. There are more hate crimes targeting Jews per capita than any other religious or ethnic group in the US and it's not even close. Your rationalization and minimization of this problem is pretty darn troubling. I doubt you'd openly support an acceptable level of hate crimes against any other group, but this double standard is a hallmark of antisemites.

---

Stop with this stupidity. Are Jews being deprived citizenship, are they being driven from their homes, are they being annihilated, are they being starved to death ? Well, the Jews are doing that to Palestinians in Gaza.

Don't compare insults to your precious upper middle class woke identity with genocide.

---

You are literally a caricature of an antisemite. It's laughable how pathetic it sounds. In your last few posts, you cover all the classic antisemitic arguments. Jews have power at very high levels and use it for nefarious purposes (where else have we heard that?). Jews kill babies deliberately. You left out the part about using the babies blood for matzas though. Jews are annihilating another group of people, displacing them at every turn, never mind that their population has been growing for eight decades, yet this annihilation is everlasting. You need a more convincing act because it doesn't fool anyone.

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Anti semitism is currently a canard but as a result of Gaza the danger to Jews is increasing worldwide

The world has been fooled by Israel but the tide is turning. They always had international favor as an embattled but honest state. No more. As a result young Israelis are emigrating and the world is finally taking notice- way too late.

Israel is increasingly marginalized; of course messianic states don't care. In the process their only allies will remain reactionary right wing religious and other nut jobs in the US who see this as a third act of some apocalyptic revelation.

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Antisemitism is not a canard when a group of Jews are set on fire in Boulder.
That is not something to tolerate. Ever. How on earth can you call this a canard? You think a record number of antisemitic hate crimes is a canard? There has to be zero tolerance for these things and most people would never take issue with that, but you do for what appear to be sinister reasons.

Also, just to point out, Israel has the highest birth rate of any developed nation, even among the secular population. They're not at risk of disappearing even with a higher rate of emigration during wartime than usual. Quite the messianic cult, isn't it?

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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If your version of recommended reading is someone pushing a blood libel accusing Israel of genocide, then you have some serious problems. This is why attacks like the firebombing in Boulder and other antisemitic violence and hate crimes keep happening all over the world. When people accept the big lie that Israel is committing genocide, then it's open season on anyone who in their mind is somehow linked or supporting this genocide. Truly terrifying logic but it's just a mutation of previous antisemitic blood libels throughout history.

---

It should be obvious to anyone outside your fundamentalist religious cult that the actions of the Israeli genocide is threatening Jews worldwide and, furthermore since you guys are conflating anti- Israel as antisemitism, you reap what you sow.

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Reap what I sow? If you claim Jews don't have a right to live in Israel or support the right to support the state of Israel you are an antisemite. There's no conflation on that one whatsoever. Your free Palestine crowd doesn't care about any actual policies of the Israeli government, you just want the Jews to disappear from there by whatever violent means your Hamas friends choose.

---

Israel is committing a genocide and the blow back from this is imperiling Jews worldwide. Jews have a right to express themselves- many bravely denounce Israel- but supporting a genocide doesn't protect you from anti semitism, if anti Israeli equals anti semitism.

---

If you believe loudly opposing Israel and agreeing that Israel is committing genocide is the only way Jews in the US can be guaranteed safety in your view, then you are an antisemite. Announcing a claim of genocide as an absolute fact and treating everything that comes out of Hamas's mouth as gospel (remember when Hamas announced 500 people were killed at Al-ahli hospital mere moments after an explosion in the parking lot there) and excusing every act of violence done in the name of opposing Israel is antisemitism. It just is, no matter how you choose to label it (we're just anti-Zionist and anti-Israel I tell you even as we firebomb a synagogue!!!)

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Anti semitism is trivial in the US. Jews are not persecuted and operate at the highest levels of society. Of course these acts of violence are deplorable but they are random individuals and- most importantly- not state sponsored.

In fact the full force of the US backs Israel and any deviation from this is not tolerated and punishable out of proportion to any harm to Jews. Contrast that with the state of Israel massacring babies and starving people to death which is fully condoned and supported by the US.

---

You are no friend of the Jews that much is absolutely certain. There are more hate crimes targeting Jews per capita than any other religious or ethnic group in the US and it's not even close. Your rationalization and minimization of this problem is pretty darn troubling. I doubt you'd openly support an acceptable level of hate crimes against any other group, but this double standard is a hallmark of antisemites.

---

Stop with this stupidity. Are Jews being deprived citizenship, are they being driven from their homes, are they being annihilated, are they being starved to death ? Well, the Jews are doing that to Palestinians in Gaza.

Don't compare insults to your precious upper middle class woke identity with genocide.

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You are literally a caricature of an antisemite. It's laughable how pathetic it sounds. In your last few posts, you cover all the classic antisemitic arguments. Jews have power at very high levels and use it for nefarious purposes (where else have we heard that?). Jews kill babies deliberately. You left out the part about using the babies blood for matzas though. Jews are annihilating another group of people, displacing them at every turn, never mind that their population has been growing for eight decades, yet this annihilation is everlasting. You need a more convincing act because it doesn't fool anyone.

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Anti semitism is currently a canard but as a result of Gaza the danger to Jews is increasing worldwide

The world has been fooled by Israel but the tide is turning. They always had international favor as an embattled but honest state. No more. As a result young Israelis are emigrating and the world is finally taking notice- way too late.

Israel is increasingly marginalized; of course messianic states don't care. In the process their only allies will remain reactionary right wing religious and other nut jobs in the US who see this as a third act of some apocalyptic revelation.

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Antisemitism is not a canard when a group of Jews are set on fire in Boulder.
That is not something to tolerate. Ever. How on earth can you call this a canard? You think a record number of antisemitic hate crimes is a canard? There has to be zero tolerance for these things and most people would never take issue with that, but you do for what appear to be sinister reasons.

Also, just to point out, Israel has the highest birth rate of any developed nation, even among the secular population. They're not at risk of disappearing even with a higher rate of emigration during wartime than usual. Quite the messianic cult, isn't it?

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If Jews are murdered anywhere in the world for being Jewish it's Israel's fault…that's sick.

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Yes that is also terrible. It's not a "Get out of jail free" card for the Israeli government to do whatever, though.

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Anarchist is of a different ilk. He says there is a genocide in Gaza and that justifies violence against Jews everywhere. He justifies the killing of Jews because of his belief of Gaza genocide. He minimizes / accepts the killing of Jews because so many other Jews live prosperous lives. This is sick as ****.

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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There's a way to criticize the Israeli government without your standard line of accusing any war act as genocide.

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Nah, I resisted calling it genocide for a while, but continued events plus statements from the Israeli government have made clear that they intend to remove all Palestinians from Gaza, which is an ethnic cleansing and when combined with the continued violence, genocide.

So no, it's not my "standard line." The facts drove me to that conclusion, as they also apparently did for Mr. Saul, formerly a strong supporter of Israel.

Also, if you think I haven't been strongly against what Russia is doing in Ukraine, you've not been paying attention.

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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sycasey said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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There's a way to criticize the Israeli government without your standard line of accusing any war act as genocide.

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Nah, I resisted calling it genocide for a while, but continued events plus statements from the Israeli government have made clear that they intend to remove all Palestinians from Gaza, which is an ethnic cleansing and when combined with the continued violence, genocide.

So no, it's not my "standard line." The facts drove me to that conclusion, as they also apparently did for Mr. Saul, formerly a strong supporter of Israel.

Also, if you think I haven't been strongly against what Russia is doing in Ukraine, you've not been paying attention.

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One of the basic attributes of antisemitism is double standards for Jews and Israel. This was one of Natan Sharansky's observations. You have to be careful with making a major accusation like genocide because the information sources from Gaza are run by the Hamas death cult, who put out nothing but lies and kill their own people in unlimited numbers to maintain their power and then go blaming Israel. Do you honestly think in a few years time the majority of the Arabs will be gone from Gaza? That seems to be totally unlikely unless some country voluntarily takes them in, which has an almost zero chance of happening.

So if you're make an accusation of genocide based on the current situation, that would mean every urban war in history should be called a genocide, which it's not. Unfortunately, in every modern war in the past 150 years civilians have suffered high casualties and it's certainly unfortunate for innocent civilians that have died in Gaza.

But something doesn't smell right when so many people come out of the woodwork accusing Israel of genocide when their stated goal is to defeat a murderous terrorist organization.

If Hamas surrenders their weapons, the war will be over. More likely Israel will find diminishing returns and stop the war while leaving Hamas with some weaponry intact, which will lead to essentially the same Islamist regime as before. I wonder if the population of Gaza increases from before 2023 to 2030 if people will retract their accusations of genocide? Most certainly not, it's just going to be an ongoing accusation against Israel no matter what it does. A double standard as always.

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Angry White Bro said:

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sycasey said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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There's a way to criticize the Israeli government without your standard line of accusing any war act as genocide.

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Nah, I resisted calling it genocide for a while, but continued events plus statements from the Israeli government have made clear that they intend to remove all Palestinians from Gaza, which is an ethnic cleansing and when combined with the continued violence, genocide.

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The only reason you ever resisted calling it genocide was when Genocide Joe was supplying the bombs. You are a hypocrite and a coward.

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sycasey said:

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Angry White Bro said:

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sycasey said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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There's a way to criticize the Israeli government without your standard line of accusing any war act as genocide.

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Nah, I resisted calling it genocide for a while, but continued events plus statements from the Israeli government have made clear that they intend to remove all Palestinians from Gaza, which is an ethnic cleansing and when combined with the continued violence, genocide.

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The only reason you ever resisted calling it genocide was when Genocide Joe was supplying the bombs. You are a hypocrite and a coward.

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I am begging people like you to just take the win when others come around to your position.

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dajo9 said:

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sycasey said:

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Angry White Bro said:

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sycasey said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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There's a way to criticize the Israeli government without your standard line of accusing any war act as genocide.

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Nah, I resisted calling it genocide for a while, but continued events plus statements from the Israeli government have made clear that they intend to remove all Palestinians from Gaza, which is an ethnic cleansing and when combined with the continued violence, genocide.

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The only reason you ever resisted calling it genocide was when Genocide Joe was supplying the bombs. You are a hypocrite and a coward.

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I am begging people like you to just take the win when others come around to your position.

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It doesn't matter to him and it's pointless to argue with him. I don't know about you but he knows I've said for years on this board that Israel is an apartheid state and I said last year we shouldn't be funding them. I also don't talk about Israel much because I don't care about the middle east and I just want the US out of the middle east. But faux-leftists like Yogi just want to help Trump by attacking Dems. You are wasting your time.

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sycasey said:

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dajo9 said:

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sycasey said:

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Angry White Bro said:

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sycasey said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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There's a way to criticize the Israeli government without your standard line of accusing any war act as genocide.

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Nah, I resisted calling it genocide for a while, but continued events plus statements from the Israeli government have made clear that they intend to remove all Palestinians from Gaza, which is an ethnic cleansing and when combined with the continued violence, genocide.

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The only reason you ever resisted calling it genocide was when Genocide Joe was supplying the bombs. You are a hypocrite and a coward.

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I am begging people like you to just take the win when others come around to your position.

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It doesn't matter to him and it's pointless to argue with him. I don't know about you but he knows I've said for years on this board that Israel is an apartheid state and I said last year we shouldn't be funding them. I also don't talk about Israel much because I don't care about the middle east and I just want the US out of the middle east. But faux-leftists like Yogi just want to help Trump by attacking Dems. You are wasting your time.

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Yes, I was also very comfortable with saying Israel was doing apartheid (in the West Bank especially). It was the "genocide" label that I wasn't sure about until the last few months. I needed to see more of the Israeli government and their policies after the initial phase of the war. Well, it turns out they are terrible.

As for Biden, I was never happy about his policy around Gaza, but as an electoral matter I didn't see how dropping support for him (thus helping Trump to win) would be of any help and said as much. Don't think I was wrong about that.

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dajo9 said:

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sycasey said:

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dajo9 said:

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sycasey said:

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Angry White Bro said:

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sycasey said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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There's a way to criticize the Israeli government without your standard line of accusing any war act as genocide.

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Nah, I resisted calling it genocide for a while, but continued events plus statements from the Israeli government have made clear that they intend to remove all Palestinians from Gaza, which is an ethnic cleansing and when combined with the continued violence, genocide.

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The only reason you ever resisted calling it genocide was when Genocide Joe was supplying the bombs. You are a hypocrite and a coward.

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I am begging people like you to just take the win when others come around to your position.

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It doesn't matter to him and it's pointless to argue with him. I don't know about you but he knows I've said for years on this board that Israel is an apartheid state and I said last year we shouldn't be funding them. I also don't talk about Israel much because I don't care about the middle east and I just want the US out of the middle east. But faux-leftists like Yogi just want to help Trump by attacking Dems. You are wasting your time.

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Yes, I was also very comfortable with saying Israel was doing apartheid (in the West Bank especially). It was the "genocide" label that I wasn't sure about until the last few months. I needed to see more of the Israeli government and their policies after the initial phase of the war. Well, it turns out they are terrible.

As for Biden, I was never happy about his policy around Gaza, but as an electoral matter I didn't see how dropping support for him (thus helping Trump to win) would be of any help and said as much. Don't think I was wrong about that.

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Agreed. And the Muslim American community helped Trump win so I'm sure they've got the situation handled since they are the victors.

Also, I think it was the first time I said Russia was engaged in ethnic cleansing too. Somehow that didn't receive a response.

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sycasey said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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sycasey said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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There's a way to criticize the Israeli government without your standard line of accusing any war act as genocide.

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Nah, I resisted calling it genocide for a while, but continued events plus statements from the Israeli government have made clear that they intend to remove all Palestinians from Gaza, which is an ethnic cleansing and when combined with the continued violence, genocide.

So no, it's not my "standard line." The facts drove me to that conclusion, as they also apparently did for Mr. Saul, formerly a strong supporter of Israel.

Also, if you think I haven't been strongly against what Russia is doing in Ukraine, you've not been paying attention.

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One of the basic attributes of antisemitism is double standards for Jews and Israel. This was one of Natan Sharansky's observations. You have to be careful with making a major accusation like genocide because the information sources from Gaza are run by the Hamas death cult, who put out nothing but lies and kill their own people in unlimited numbers to maintain their power and then go blaming Israel. Do you honestly think in a few years time the majority of the Arabs will be gone from Gaza? That seems to be totally unlikely unless some country voluntarily takes them in, which has an almost zero chance of happening.

So if you're make an accusation of genocide based on the current situation, that would mean every urban war in history should be called a genocide, which it's not. Unfortunately, in every modern war in the past 150 years civilians have suffered high casualties and it's certainly unfortunate for innocent civilians that have died in Gaza.

But something doesn't smell right when so many people come out of the woodwork accusing Israel of genocide when their stated goal is to defeat a murderous terrorist organization.

If Hamas surrenders their weapons, the war will be over. More likely Israel will find diminishing returns and stop the war while leaving Hamas with some weaponry intact, which will lead to essentially the same Islamist regime as before. I wonder if the population of Gaza increases from before 2023 to 2030 if people will retract their accusations of genocide? Most certainly not, it's just going to be an ongoing accusation against Israel no matter what it does. A double standard as always.

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I would recommend re-reading the article I posted before (assuming you have read it at all), because most of this is already addressed therein:
https://www.readtangle.com/leaving-zionism-israel-gaza-hamas-isaac-saul/

The Israeli government's original stated purpose for the war was to remove Hamas from leadership and to get the hostages returned. The problem is that as this has gone on, the civilian casualties/targets have mounted (to far diminishing returns of actually killing/capturing Hamas leaders) and the rhetoric has moved towards a plan that sounds a lot like ethnically cleansing Gaza (Bibi naming "the Trump plan" of relocating Gazans as a condition for ending the war). And this goes on while Israeli settlements and Palestinian displacement in the West Bank have ramped up. So no, it is not about "every urban war in history" looking like this. It's about THIS current Israeli government, THEIR policies, and THEIR rhetoric in THIS particular war.

I don't think the government will actually be able to remove all Arabs from the land, but you don't have to actually succeed in removing an entire ethnicity from the land to qualify for genocide. What matters is if you are trying to do it. Seems pretty clear that Netanyahu's government is.

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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sycasey said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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sycasey said:

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CaliforniaEternal said:

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There's a way to criticize the Israeli government without your standard line of accusing any war act as genocide.

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Nah, I resisted calling it genocide for a while, but continued events plus statements from the Israeli government have made clear that they intend to remove all Palestinians from Gaza, which is an ethnic cleansing and when combined with the continued violence, genocide.

So no, it's not my "standard line." The facts drove me to that conclusion, as they also apparently did for Mr. Saul, formerly a strong supporter of Israel.

Also, if you think I haven't been strongly against what Russia is doing in Ukraine, you've not been paying attention.

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One of the basic attributes of antisemitism is double standards for Jews and Israel. This was one of Natan Sharansky's observations. You have to be careful with making a major accusation like genocide because the information sources from Gaza are run by the Hamas death cult, who put out nothing but lies and kill their own people in unlimited numbers to maintain their power and then go blaming Israel. Do you honestly think in a few years time the majority of the Arabs will be gone from Gaza? That seems to be totally unlikely unless some country voluntarily takes them in, which has an almost zero chance of happening.

So if you're make an accusation of genocide based on the current situation, that would mean every urban war in history should be called a genocide, which it's not. Unfortunately, in every modern war in the past 150 years civilians have suffered high casualties and it's certainly unfortunate for innocent civilians that have died in Gaza.

But something doesn't smell right when so many people come out of the woodwork accusing Israel of genocide when their stated goal is to defeat a murderous terrorist organization.

If Hamas surrenders their weapons, the war will be over. More likely Israel will find diminishing returns and stop the war while leaving Hamas with some weaponry intact, which will lead to essentially the same Islamist regime as before. I wonder if the population of Gaza increases from before 2023 to 2030 if people will retract their accusations of genocide? Most certainly not, it's just going to be an ongoing accusation against Israel no matter what it does. A double standard as always.

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I would recommend re-reading the article I posted before (assuming you have read it at all), because most of this is already addressed therein:
https://www.readtangle.com/leaving-zionism-israel-gaza-hamas-isaac-saul/

The Israeli government's original stated purpose for the war was to remove Hamas from leadership and to get the hostages returned. The problem is that as this has gone on, the civilian casualties/targets have mounted (to far diminishing returns of actually killing/capturing Hamas leaders) and the rhetoric has moved towards a plan that sounds a lot like ethnically cleansing Gaza (Bibi naming "the Trump plan" of relocating Gazans as a condition for ending the war). And this goes on while Israeli settlements and Palestinian displacement in the West Bank have ramped up. So no, it is not about "every urban war in history" looking like this. It's about THIS current Israeli government, THEIR policies, and THEIR rhetoric in THIS particular war.

I don't think the government will actually be able to remove all Arabs from the land, but you don't have to actually succeed in removing an entire ethnicity from the land to qualify for genocide. What matters is if you are trying to do it. Seems pretty clear that Netanyahu's government is.

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I've read your article and it's completely non-sensical just like your morally invested argument for claiming Israel is committing genocide. If fighting a group that attacks your nation in the attempt to bring about its destruction until they surrender unconditionally is genocide, then we hold completely different views on what genocide actually is. Because if you argue that Arabs are going to no longer be the majority group in Gaza after this war is over, you are mad.

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