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BearGoggles said:tequila4kapp said:
IDF captured 3 members of Hamas' Beit Hanoun battalion in northern Gaza. The IDF posted this picture of the capture Sunday. Do they look like they are starving?
Hamas started this war and is responsible for all of the suffering. Full stop. They are counting on Palestinian suffering to influence the squishy left and Europeans. And many people on this board are up for it.
Right, you have to understand, that when Israeli snipers shoot toddlers in the head, it is because of HAMAS.
Shot in the head and chest.
— Stephanie Hegarty BBC News (@stephhegarty) August 1, 2025
We investigated the killing of two-year-old Layan and six-year-old Mira.
We also found many more cases of children shot in the head and chest in Gaza, from the beginning of the war right up until last month. https://t.co/rAMLWsEyQp
And if the fact that dozens of Gaza children have been shot in the head or chest by Israeli snipers bothers you, then you must be from "the squishy left", or even worse, a European.
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And for those of you who claim that Israel is responsible for the potential (not yet actual) famine, please tell me what other country is expected to feed the country they are at war with? Did the US feed ISIS or Syrians? Or Iraqis in Mosul? There are current war caused famines in Yemen and Sudan, yet silence here and no calls for a cease fire. The focus on only Israel is unprecedented and truly bizarre.
Israel has destroyed Gaza crops and plowed over all their fields, greenhouses, the same way they have gone out of their way to bomb nearly every hospital, school, clinic, campus building, water infrastructure and so forth. Israeli soldiers and boats shoot and sink any small fishing vessel that dares try to fish. Israeli fanatics hold up and destroy trucks of food destined to Gaza.
Almost all the food aid for Gaza being held up by Israel is from non-Israeli sources, hundreds of trucks and hundreds of tons of food aid is being held up at the Egyptian border by Israel. Your gaslighting here is not just dishonest, it is pathetic.
bear2034 said:Hey look a newspaper in New York City NOT running fake photos on the front page. Kudos to @nypost for having the courage to tell the truth. pic.twitter.com/LmNssK2xd0
— Scott Jennings (@ScottJenningsKY) August 3, 2025
I'll refer you to the above post.
Just a reminder that there were absolutely zero food shortages in "israel" while Ibrahim Al-Shawish was being detained without charge. Yet, he lost hair & became emaciated/malnourished. Did Ibrahim's wretched treatment & deliberate starvation make it to MSM? pic.twitter.com/LgNod6Eoo4
— @nicolette ☮️ 🇵🇸 🇱🇧 🕊️ (@curemecfs) August 4, 2025
Israeli snipers would not (allegedly) be shooting if not for Hamas. Full stop. The war would end if Hamas released the hostages and/or agreed to the cease fire terms supported by Egypt, Qatar, and the USA and accepted by the Israelis. Hamas is responsible for starting and now continuing this war.
The link you posted says this: "the IDF said the details of Layan and Mira's cases had been recorded and "will be examined by the competent authorities". It added: "Intentional harm to civilians, especially children, is strictly prohibited."
Has Hamas ever stated that "Intentional harm to civilians, especially children, is strictly prohibited"? We know they don't act that way, hiding behind civilians. And that is the difference - Israel's goal is not to kill civilians whereas that is Hamas' primary strategy (both as to Israeli and Palestinian citizens). Mistakes/accidents will happen in all wars. And in all armies there will always be bad actors who commit war crimes.
The link you posted says this: "the IDF said the details of Layan and Mira's cases had been recorded and "will be examined by the competent authorities". It added: "Intentional harm to civilians, especially children, is strictly prohibited."
Has Hamas ever stated that "Intentional harm to civilians, especially children, is strictly prohibited"? We know they don't act that way, hiding behind civilians. And that is the difference - Israel's goal is not to kill civilians whereas that is Hamas' primary strategy (both as to Israeli and Palestinian citizens). Mistakes/accidents will happen in all wars. And in all armies there will always be bad actors who commit war crimes.
Not that it would dissuade you - because you don't care about the veracity of the ish you post. But this claim is highly disputed and the provenance/accuracy of the picture is unknown.
Let’s get this straight: Ibrahim Mohammed Khaleel al-Shawish below👇 was NOT on the list of released prisoners from Israeli jails because he wasn’t in jail.
— James J. Marlow (@James_J_Marlow) February 10, 2025
He WAS in an Israeli hospital being treated for stomach cancer. There were Jewish and Arabs doctors keeping him alive. pic.twitter.com/tzZrKC7gqg
Israel has full military control of Gaza at this point. Hamas still exists as an entity, but that's the thing, they basically always will. They are a political party and a nebulous terrorist organization that can constantly churn through new leaders and membership. This isn't like getting Hitler or Hirohito to officially sign off on a surrender and then it's all over. If the goal is to fully stamp out Hamas, then it will go about as well as the Bush Administration's attempt to end terrorism.
Another direction is needed. If Israel wants to maintain control of the land, then they also have a responsibility to the people who live there. Just saying it's all on Hamas to feed them isn't a good enough answer.
Another direction is needed. If Israel wants to maintain control of the land, then they also have a responsibility to the people who live there. Just saying it's all on Hamas to feed them isn't a good enough answer.
Isn't that the stomach cancer guy who was being treated at an Israeli Hospital?
"States and cities that boycott Israeli companies will be denied grants from the Federal Emergency Management Agency, according to grant notices posted by the agency in recent days.
The new eligibility criteria could restrict access to at least $1.9 billion earmarked for search-and-rescue equipment, emergency manager salaries and backup power systems used during blackouts, Reuters reported.
To be eligible for federal funds, the grant notices say that states and cities must follow the "terms and conditions" set forth by the Department of Homeland Security, the parent agency of FEMA. Since April, D.H.S. has prohibited grantees from "limiting commercial relations specifically with Israeli companies."
Because not being loyal to Israel is un American and denies you aid from your own country .
And people still believe anti- semitism is real.
The new eligibility criteria could restrict access to at least $1.9 billion earmarked for search-and-rescue equipment, emergency manager salaries and backup power systems used during blackouts, Reuters reported.
To be eligible for federal funds, the grant notices say that states and cities must follow the "terms and conditions" set forth by the Department of Homeland Security, the parent agency of FEMA. Since April, D.H.S. has prohibited grantees from "limiting commercial relations specifically with Israeli companies."
Because not being loyal to Israel is un American and denies you aid from your own country .
And people still believe anti- semitism is real.
Anarchistbear said:
"States and cities that boycott Israeli companies will be denied grants from the Federal Emergency Management Agency, according to grant notices posted by the agency in recent days.
The new eligibility criteria could restrict access to at least $1.9 billion earmarked for search-and-rescue equipment, emergency manager salaries and backup power systems used during blackouts, Reuters reported.
To be eligible for federal funds, the grant notices say that states and cities must follow the "terms and conditions" set forth by the Department of Homeland Security, the parent agency of FEMA. Since April, D.H.S. has prohibited grantees from "limiting commercial relations specifically with Israeli companies."
Because not being loyal to Israel is un American and denies you aid from your own country .
And people still believe anti- semitism is real.
This is insane. Why should fealty to a foreign country be a requirement to get funds from your own government?
Serious question: what even do we get out of the Israel "alliance" anymore?
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sycasey said:
Israel has full military control of Gaza at this point. Hamas still exists as an entity, but that's the thing, they basically always will. They are a political party and a nebulous terrorist organization that can constantly churn through new leaders and membership. This isn't like getting Hitler or Hirohito to officially sign off on a surrender and then it's all over. If the goal is to fully stamp out Hamas, then it will go about as well as the Bush Administration's attempt to end terrorism.
Another direction is needed. If Israel wants to maintain control of the land, then they also have a responsibility to the people who live there. Just saying it's all on Hamas to feed them isn't a good enough answer.
And that's probably the justification for very late breaking reports that Israel is going to fully occupy Gaza. The let the Palestinians self govern experiment in Gaza was an abject failure. I wish for a 2 state solution but this is Israel's best option for minimizing violence against it from Gaza after the war.
bear2034 said:
Isn't that the stomach cancer guy who was being treated at an Israeli Hospital?
Probably. Probably just as real as the "starving kids" with underlying medical conditions. Meanwhile, Hamas fighters are fit and fine because they steal the aide and allow others in Gaza starve.
tequila4kapp said:bear2034 said:
Isn't that the stomach cancer guy who was being treated at an Israeli Hospital?
Probably. Probably just as real as the "starving kids" with underlying medical conditions. Meanwhile, Hamas fighters are fit and fine because they steal the aide and allow others in Gaza starve.
Hamas lost control of the food supply as Palestinians can get access to food aid directly from Israel rather than getting ripped off by Hamas.
bearister said:
UN says "worst-case scenario" now unfolding in Gaza....
Is this the same UN that meets together in NYC or is this the UN in Gaza that's run by Hamas and is indistinguishable from Hamas?
Gaza had twenty years to prove it could function as an independent state and failed miserably. No amount of pandering by European counties will ever convince the Palestinians in Gaza to recognize Israel and live in peace within their own border or turn them into a functioning democracy. Ireland, Spain, France, and the UK can establish states of Palestine within their own borders with Islamists are in power and see how that works out for them. Israel is not going to sacrifice its security so loser politicians in Europe can stay in power by scapegoating Israel for all their problems.
tequila4kapp said:sycasey said:
Israel has full military control of Gaza at this point. Hamas still exists as an entity, but that's the thing, they basically always will. They are a political party and a nebulous terrorist organization that can constantly churn through new leaders and membership. This isn't like getting Hitler or Hirohito to officially sign off on a surrender and then it's all over. If the goal is to fully stamp out Hamas, then it will go about as well as the Bush Administration's attempt to end terrorism.
Another direction is needed. If Israel wants to maintain control of the land, then they also have a responsibility to the people who live there. Just saying it's all on Hamas to feed them isn't a good enough answer.
And that's probably the justification for very late breaking reports that Israel is going to fully occupy Gaza. The let the Palestinians self govern experiment in Gaza was an abject failure. I wish for a 2 state solution but this is Israel's best option for minimizing violence against it from Gaza after the war.
And if they are going to occupy, then they have to do it humanely. Any trust the local population will have in Israel is pretty much crushed at this point, so you will probably have to overdeliver on aid.
Do I think Netanyahu can deliver on that? Not holding my breath, but here's hoping.
Ask yourself why Hamas released the photos of Evyatar David and Rom Braslavski, who are actually starving, right after a big news cycle about food not getting into Gaza. They did it as a show of power, proof that the media, the influencers on the Left, and now many on the Right… pic.twitter.com/nV2VPx7sVm
— Batya Ungar-Sargon (@bungarsargon) August 1, 2025
Since Hamas starves their own population by stealing food and aid, it should be no surprise that they starve Israeli hostages.
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I want the USA to have no part of this war...this is a Palestine/Israel war as far as I'm concerned, Iran should not be supplying them either but I saw this today and it confirmed what I had always thought, never seen this before though. The reporting coming out of there is just not independent and the numbers and casualty stories are simply put out to propagate a narrative, much like Israel does.
🚨BOOM. Share this everywhere. An ex reporter for the @AP reveals how they are completely compromised and possibly complicit in the Hamas PR Jihad warfare
— Gal G., Adv 🇮🇱 (@ICK_GalG) August 6, 2025
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Another example.
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Report: Anti-Israel Photographer Stages Photographs of Hunger in Gaza
Joel B. Pollak
5 Aug 20253,125
2:45
A photographer whose work is routinely picked up by international agencies reportedly stages photographs of hunger in Gaza, emphasizing women and children and avoiding showing Palestinians receiving food, German Bild says.
The investigative article (translated via Google) reported (emphasis removed):
The Israeli foreign ministry shared the article, noting that Hamas uses staged photographs, transmitted by anti-Israel freelancers and news agencies, "to manipulate global opinion."
Journalist Avi Mayer noted that while photos of "starving" Palestinian children who turned out to have other maladies were published on front pages throughout the world, only four newspapers, aside from the New York Post, initially did the same with photos of Israeli hostages being starved deliberately by Hamas and they were all Israeli outlets.
https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2025/08/05/report-anti-israel-photographer-stages-photographs-of-hunger-in-gaza/
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Report: Anti-Israel Photographer Stages Photographs of Hunger in Gaza
Joel B. Pollak
5 Aug 20253,125
2:45
A photographer whose work is routinely picked up by international agencies reportedly stages photographs of hunger in Gaza, emphasizing women and children and avoiding showing Palestinians receiving food, German Bild says.
The investigative article (translated via Google) reported (emphasis removed):
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The hunger is (almost always) real but the images are often not quite so. A recently widely circulated photo showed desperate people on a truck in front of a food distribution point. Opposite them: photographer Anas Zayed Fteiha, a freelance "journalist" commissioned by the Turkish news agency Anadolu.
Potential problem: The scene, captured by other photographers as well, shows mostly adult men waiting for food and getting it.
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Because "journalist" Fteiha apparently has a mission: "Free Palestine." This is what it says on a bombastic painting he presents on his Instagram accountin combat gear with the proud inscription "Presse." The "artist" who created the image for Fteiha is an avowed Jew-hater.
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In the Gaza Strip, almost exclusively Palestinian photographers are now taking photographs quite a few with Hamas connections. Historian and photography expert Gerhard Paul told the Sddeutsche Zeitung: "In southern Gaza, Hamas controls 100 percent of image production." The goal: to generate sympathy in the West and stir up anger against Israel.
The Israeli foreign ministry shared the article, noting that Hamas uses staged photographs, transmitted by anti-Israel freelancers and news agencies, "to manipulate global opinion."
Journalist Avi Mayer noted that while photos of "starving" Palestinian children who turned out to have other maladies were published on front pages throughout the world, only four newspapers, aside from the New York Post, initially did the same with photos of Israeli hostages being starved deliberately by Hamas and they were all Israeli outlets.
https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2025/08/05/report-anti-israel-photographer-stages-photographs-of-hunger-in-gaza/
Survivors of Israel's pager attack on Hezbollah struggle to recover https://t.co/5ME29bqRZR
— The Associated Press (@AP) August 6, 2025
This almost reads like a Babylon Bee headline.
bear2034 said:Survivors of Israel's pager attack on Hezbollah struggle to recover https://t.co/5ME29bqRZR
— The Associated Press (@AP) August 6, 2025
This almost reads like a Babylon Bee headline.
" He can no longer play football. Hezbollah is helping him find a new job. Sheri realizes it's impossible now to find a role alongside Hezbollah fighters."
The AP must be proud of this reporting.
Today it was revealed that TIME’s photo from Gaza was completely staged.
— David Saranga (@DavidSaranga) August 6, 2025
German @BILD confirmed what many of us already knew: the angles were always too narrow.@TIME - do basic journalistic standards no longer apply? pic.twitter.com/fQG8QNTnD1
More propaganda from Gaza-wood.
MinotStateBeav said:
I want the USA to have no part of this war...this is a Palestine/Israel war as far as I'm concerned, Iran should not be supplying them either but I saw this today and it confirmed what I had always thought, never seen this before though. The reporting coming out of there is just not independent and the numbers and casualty stories are simply put out to propagate a narrative, much like Israel does.🚨BOOM. Share this everywhere. An ex reporter for the @AP reveals how they are completely compromised and possibly complicit in the Hamas PR Jihad warfare
— Gal G., Adv 🇮🇱 (@ICK_GalG) August 6, 2025
pic.twitter.com/8qhC4e7t7W
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FYI this guy, Matti Friedman, is an Israeli citizen and an IDF soldier.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matti_Friedman
bear2034 said:Today it was revealed that TIME’s photo from Gaza was completely staged.
— David Saranga (@DavidSaranga) August 6, 2025
German @BILD confirmed what many of us already knew: the angles were always too narrow.@TIME - do basic journalistic standards no longer apply? pic.twitter.com/fQG8QNTnD1
More propaganda from Gaza-wood.
The term you were looking for here is hasbara, or Israeli propaganda. The reason it is so easy to fool some right wingers on anything related to Israel is that this propaganda is prevalent, and dominates your information bubble.
Here's footage of the same site as the Time magazine photo that @BillAckman and others are saying was staged. They will all retract and apologize after watching this.
— Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) August 6, 2025
You can tell by countless details that it's the precise same site and that the photographer did not stage it. https://t.co/AvuY9sK9Pi pic.twitter.com/u06rIOKO0B
⚡️🇺🇸🇮🇱JUST IN:
— Suppressed News. (@SuppressedNws) August 6, 2025
U.S. Senator Chris Van Hollen strongly denied claims that Hamas is systematically stealing aid in Gaza, calling it “a big lie.”
He emphasized that multiple international organizations, including USAID, have rejected these accusations.
Van Hollen accused the… pic.twitter.com/B3k2vDrU6a
U.S. Senator Chris Van Hollen strongly denied claims that Hamas is systematically stealing aid in Gaza, calling it "a big lie."
He emphasized that multiple international organizations, including USAID, have rejected these accusations.
Van Hollen accused the Israeli and U.S. governments of spreading this false narrative to justify using food as a weapon of war.
FOX: “Will Israel take control of all of Gaza?”
— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) August 7, 2025
NETANYAHU: “We intend to…” pic.twitter.com/bMS0aESwYO
I wonder why the aid hasn't been getting to Gaza?
NEW: A Gaza Humanitarian Foundation contract leader is in a biker club seeking to fight "Islamic Extremism."
— Prem Thakker (@prem_thakker) August 6, 2025
One chapter held an anti-Ramadan pig roast.
The US contractor — who's supposed to help Palestinians — once hailed Israel as "God’s Chosen Nation."https://t.co/hxZqEeSly5
sycasey said:FOX: “Will Israel take control of all of Gaza?”
— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) August 7, 2025
NETANYAHU: “We intend to…” pic.twitter.com/bMS0aESwYO
So basically just like the US did with Japan following WW2. Except Gaza is contiguous to Israel, so it makes even more sense.
"Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu confirmed on Thursday that Israel will proceed with its plan to occupy the entire Gaza Strip."
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tequila4kapp said:sycasey said:FOX: “Will Israel take control of all of Gaza?”
— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) August 7, 2025
NETANYAHU: “We intend to…” pic.twitter.com/bMS0aESwYO
So basically just like the US did with Japan following WW2. Except Gaza is contiguous to Israel, so it makes even more sense.
The plan is to colonize and ethnically cleanse Gaza, not quite post-WW2 Japan. That was the plan all along.
Israel’s hostage negotiator Gershon Baskin accused Israel’s Gov of committing war crimes in Gaza. He confirmed that Hamas TWICE told him, in writing: They’ll release all remaining hostages and relinquish power, in exchange for ending the war.
— Rula Jebreal (@rulajebreal) August 6, 2025
Israel refused to end its genocide. https://t.co/Y54jTnoYZu pic.twitter.com/XkSTaJnWjn
Absolute bombshell reporting.
— Shaiel Ben-Ephraim (@academic_la) August 7, 2025
Reporting on Israeli TV with actual and credible quotes from cabinet meetings on March 1, 2025, shows beyond any doubt that Israel intentionally broke the ceasefire rather than get the hostages back and end the genocide. At the time, there was a… https://t.co/Nc45UDfa71
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Reporting on Israeli TV with actual and credible quotes from cabinet meetings on March 1, 2025, shows beyond any doubt that Israel intentionally broke the ceasefire rather than get the hostages back and end the genocide. At the time, there was a comprehensive deal on the table, which Israel did not want. Netanyahu chose to let the hostages rot.
The heads of the Israeli security services believed a deal was attainable and preferable. Ronen Bar, head of the Shin Bet said "reaching phase B is my preferred option. We can easily restart the war."
IDF negotiator Nitzan Allon said: "Our assumption that Sinwar wanted to blow up negotiations for Phase 1 was incorrect. We should learn from that."
A confidential IDF intelligence source said, "Hamas is willing to move forward if we pursue phase 2. Otherwise, they are ready to restart the fighting."
Ron Dermer said: "We are not ready to end the war while Hamas are in power. We thought the talks would explode once we entered them and that didn't happen."
Netanyahu said, "you are misleading the public that we can stop the fighting and then return to it because Trump will let us. That is ignorance!"
Mossad head Barnea disagreed and said, "for 30 days we will negotiate the second phase. At the end of that, the US will not stop us from renewing. We will get the hostages back and withdraw from Gaza."
Dermer replied: "I am not willing to see Hamas in power even for a minute. I can't live with that."
This discussion shows two things clearly. First, that Israel could have ended the war and gotten the hostages back by now. Second, that even if the hostages were returned, it would renew the fighting. This has never been about the hostages and Israel has never wanted a ceasefire. This is incontrovertible proof.
bearister said:
"Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu confirmed on Thursday that Israel will proceed with its plan to occupy the entire Gaza Strip."
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..(the silent part) after killing any/all non-jewish persons already there
Cal88 said:tequila4kapp said:sycasey said:FOX: “Will Israel take control of all of Gaza?”
— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) August 7, 2025
NETANYAHU: “We intend to…” pic.twitter.com/bMS0aESwYO
So basically just like the US did with Japan following WW2. Except Gaza is contiguous to Israel, so it makes even more sense.
The plan is to colonize and ethnically cleanse Gaza, not quite post-WW2 Japan. That was the plan all along.
If Netanyahu's government takes the opportunity to set up a new economy and democratic self-governance structure for the Palestinians, I will be pleasantly surprised.
Their behavior in the West Bank does not suggest that this is the plan, though.
Cal88 said:
The plan is to colonize and ethnically cleanse Gaza, not quite post-WW2 Japan. That was the plan all along.Israel’s hostage negotiator Gershon Baskin accused Israel’s Gov of committing war crimes in Gaza. He confirmed that Hamas TWICE told him, in writing: They’ll release all remaining hostages and relinquish power, in exchange for ending the war.
— Rula Jebreal (@rulajebreal) August 6, 2025
Israel refused to end its genocide. https://t.co/Y54jTnoYZu pic.twitter.com/XkSTaJnWjn
Again, if Israel wanted to ethnically cleanse and colonize Gaza it would have been accomplished long ago. And Israel wouldn't have 20% Palestinian population. And Israel would not have removed Israeli settlements to give Palestinians Gaza some 20 years ago.
Like all of your posts this one relies heavily on social media from entirely biased people instead of mainstream sources. The first post from X includes comments indicating the speaker - who claims to have received 2 written offers from Hamas - is not a negotiator for Israel and hasn't been for about 15-20 years. There is also commentary indicating Hamas supposed offer of "surrender" did not include disarming or leaving Gaza.
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