The Non-Yogi Israel-Palestine war thread

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Qatar is sending repo men to San Antonio to repossess that Boeing 747-8 jet.

https://mol.im/a/15080817


*I hope Trump doesn't tell Bibi there are Hamas units in San Francisco and Chicago.
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That's some kind of a brotherhood!

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Is Trump lying about not tacitly approving the Israeli airstrikes in Qatar or is Bibi his daddy?

What say you?

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Israel is a barbaric state - there is little internal dissension about this slaughter. They need to not be allowed to travel or participate in international events. This is a huge shame on the West that will not be erased.
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bearister said:

Is Trump lying about not tacitly approving the Israeli airstrikes in Qatar or is Bibi his daddy?

What say you?





Hard to believe this Israeli mission wasn't greenlit, because the USAF operates a large base near Doha and would have spotted the planes coming in. Also, allegations that these Israeli jets were refueled by NATO tankers just outside of Qatar. So Trump is probably lying.
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This being said, Jeffrey Sachs thinks Trump might have been kept uninformed:

https://www.youtube.com/live/lGroog6ewJ4?si=8v-Ek5NN--sS-Rns&t=808
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The con is wearing thinner
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sycasey
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Cal88 said:



Tell me, is this guy high enough in the Israeli government for his statements to matter? Asking for a friend.
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Greater Israel has been Israeli policy since Bibi's crowd assassinated Yitzak Rabin in 1995.
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After watching recent clips of Charlie Kirk, the founder and president of the largest conservative youth organization in the US, I've seen him suggest there was a military stand-down order on October 7th, accused Israel of ethnically cleansing Gaza, claimed he doesn't have the freedom to criticize Israel, and he invited Dave Smith, a well-known anti-Zionist, to speak at the country's biggest conservative youth event. If Israel is worried about the rise of anti-Zionism among young conservatives (which is happening) then the 31 yr old founder and president of the country's largest conservative youth movement is exactly the kind of figure Israel fears when he begins to stray from the script.

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Cal88 said:

Greater Israel has been Israeli policy since Bibi's crowd assassinated Yitzak Rabin in 1995.


I respectfully disagree with almost all of your other points, but Netanyahu stoking up the hate which led to Rabin's assassination was the turning point that ultimately led us here.
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ACC Bear said:



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After watching recent clips of Charlie Kirk, the founder and president of the largest conservative youth organization in the US, I've seen him suggest there was a military stand-down order on October 7th, accused Israel of ethnically cleansing Gaza, claimed he doesn't have the freedom to criticize Israel, and he invited Dave Smith, a well-known anti-Zionist, to speak at the country's biggest conservative youth event. If Israel is worried about the rise of anti-Zionism among young conservatives (which is happening) then the 31 yr old founder and president of the country's largest conservative youth movement is exactly the kind of figure Israel fears when he begins to stray from the script.




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sycasey said:

ACC Bear said:



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After watching recent clips of Charlie Kirk, the founder and president of the largest conservative youth organization in the US, I've seen him suggest there was a military stand-down order on October 7th, accused Israel of ethnically cleansing Gaza, claimed he doesn't have the freedom to criticize Israel, and he invited Dave Smith, a well-known anti-Zionist, to speak at the country's biggest conservative youth event. If Israel is worried about the rise of anti-Zionism among young conservatives (which is happening) then the 31 yr old founder and president of the country's largest conservative youth movement is exactly the kind of figure Israel fears when he begins to stray from the script.








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ACC Bear said:

sycasey said:

ACC Bear said:



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After watching recent clips of Charlie Kirk, the founder and president of the largest conservative youth organization in the US, I've seen him suggest there was a military stand-down order on October 7th, accused Israel of ethnically cleansing Gaza, claimed he doesn't have the freedom to criticize Israel, and he invited Dave Smith, a well-known anti-Zionist, to speak at the country's biggest conservative youth event. If Israel is worried about the rise of anti-Zionism among young conservatives (which is happening) then the 31 yr old founder and president of the country's largest conservative youth movement is exactly the kind of figure Israel fears when he begins to stray from the script.












Bibi is a moron. The worst PM ever.
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Cal88 said:

That's some kind of a brotherhood!



Yossi Klein is a rabid anti-Zionist who is determined to burn the village down to save it. He's one of the main reasons why I cancelled my Ha'Aretz subscription. It's like thinking that Finkelstein speaks for a lot of Diasporic Jews - when he may reflect 1% at most..
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juarezbear said:

Cal88 said:

That's some kind of a brotherhood!



Yossi Klein is a rabid anti-Zionist who is determined to burn the village down to save it. He's one of the main reasons why I cancelled my Ha'Aretz subscription. It's like thinking that Finkelstein speaks for a lot of Diasporic Jews - when he may reflect 1% at most..


He's a dissenting voice in a country where 82% want to ethnically cleanse Palestinians.
 
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