The Non-Yogi Israel-Palestine war thread

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Typical. Has his trifecta family moved out of DC?
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Did they find out who un-alived his personal chef?
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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Anti Trump zealots, fearful, too, he'll get the Noble. Just Biden's war active. Idiots on Reddit believe Russia is being devastated.


I'm good with Trump getting the Noble. What's that for? Who awards it?

And what did Obama get a Noble for?

Obama never had the honor of getting a Noble, I'm pretty sure that's just reserved for Trump.

*Are you guys sophisticated put on artists funin' us or is something else at play?

2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner?


I'm making fun of the fact that you guy's can't even f@ucking spell it correctly and you still don't get it.
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The end of this war is such a major relief. It's a special time to be celebrating as Sukkot is taking place and Simchat Torah coming up. When the last of the hostages are freed it will be a momentous occasion.
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Our President. The President of Peace.

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If Trump really is going to enforce a permanent cease fire in Gaza, then he does deserve credit for righting the ship, but he as well as the Biden administration also carry the blame for the death and destruction as well as the medieval starvation siege on a population of 2.1 millions that might have lost several hundred thousands in some of the most horrendous conditions imaginable.

If Trump lets Bibi resume the genocide after he recovers the remaining Israeli POWs, then he's a war criminal and a scumbag. I really hope that will not be the case.
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Cal88 said:

If Trump really is going to enforce a permanent cease fire in Gaza, then he does deserve credit for righting the ship, but he as well as the Biden administration also carry the blame for the death and destruction as well as the medieval starvation siege on a population of 2.1 millions that might have lost several hundred thousands in some of the most horrendous conditions imaginable.

If Trump lets Bibi resume the genocide after he recovers the remaining Israeli POWs, then he's a war criminal and a scumbag. I really hope that will not be the case.


Just to be clear, are you saying that if Israel did continue on the offensive that would make Trump a war criminal?
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BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

If Trump really is going to enforce a permanent cease fire in Gaza, then he does deserve credit for righting the ship, but he as well as the Biden administration also carry the blame for the death and destruction as well as the medieval starvation siege on a population of 2.1 millions that might have lost several hundred thousands in some of the most horrendous conditions imaginable.

If Trump lets Bibi resume the genocide after he recovers the remaining Israeli POWs, then he's a war criminal and a scumbag. I really hope that will not be the case.


Just to be clear, are you saying that if Israel did continue on the offensive that would make Trump a war criminal?



Israel can't do much without US approval, material military support and funding. Their economy would have collapsed without the 100+ billions they are getting this decade from US taxpayers, and without the US military cover and multi-billion THAAD defensive cover they would have been toast against Iranian missiles.

Trump can block Israel from resuming the Gaza genocide after they recover their hostages and Hamas disarms, Bibi's crowd wants to extend their bloodlust, let's see what Trump does.
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Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

If Trump really is going to enforce a permanent cease fire in Gaza, then he does deserve credit for righting the ship, but he as well as the Biden administration also carry the blame for the death and destruction as well as the medieval starvation siege on a population of 2.1 millions that might have lost several hundred thousands in some of the most horrendous conditions imaginable.

If Trump lets Bibi resume the genocide after he recovers the remaining Israeli POWs, then he's a war criminal and a scumbag. I really hope that will not be the case.


Just to be clear, are you saying that if Israel did continue on the offensive that would make Trump a war criminal?



Israel can't do much without US approval, material military support and funding. Their economy would have collapsed without the 100+ billions they are getting this decade from US taxpayers, and without the US military cover and multi-billion THAAD defensive cover they would have been toast against Iranian missiles.

Trump can block Israel from resuming the Gaza genocide after they recover their hostages and Hamas disarms, Bibi's crowd wants to extend their bloodlust, let's see what Trump does.


Cool story. Now do Egypt, Turkey and Qatar vis-a-vis Hamas.

Also, what is your source for the claim that Israel has received $100B+ in aid this decade (i.e., the last 3 years)? I don't believe Israel received that much in the past 10 years, spanning two decades.
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sycasey said:

BearGoggles said:

Absolutely fascinating that as the cease fire has been in the news and ultimately came to fruition today, the people in this thread have little if anything to say about the deal. Those criticizing Israel for that past two years have not been advocating for Hamas to accept the peace plan and now, no celebration of the cease fire.

It is almost like these poster don't really care about Palestinians.

I hope it holds, but I have seen announcements like this before. Waiting and seeing before celebrating anything.

That is irrelevant to my point.

When the deal was still not final, all of the "cease fire now" crowd and protesters suddenly got very quiet even though a deal was reportedly imminent. If they really wanted a "cease fire now" they should/would have been stating that Hamas should accept the plan accepted by Israel and endorsed by all key stakeholders. Those people should have been urging and to the extent possible pressuring Hamas. Yet complete crickets from most of that crowd and most posters on this board.

And to your separate point, perhaps you and people with your views should be publicly supporting the deal and demanding that both parties - most notably Hamas - comply? As has always been the case, Hamas controls the destiny of the Palestinian people and they can make the cease fire permanent by accepting and performing upon the 21 point plan.
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Cal88 said:



You and Francesca have to be some kind of stupid to not realize that both sides keep fighting until the cease fire takes effect. It just took effect about an hour ago,

Hamas was fighting until the very end.

They tried to kidnap a soldier.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/hamas-takes-responsibility-for-failed-attack-on-idf-in-south-gaza-hoped-to-kidnap-soldier/#:~:text=Hamas%20takes%20responsibility%20for%20failed,The%20other%20two%20fled.

They killed a soldier.



But of course, to you, Palestinians are only victims and never responsible for anything they do or cause.
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BearGoggles said:

Cal88 said:



You and Francesca have to be some kind of stupid to not realize that both sides keep fighting until the cease fire takes effect. It just took effect about an hour ago,

Hamas was fighting until the very end.

They tried to kidnap a soldier.

They killed a soldier.

But of course, to you, Palestinians are only victims and never responsible for anything they do or cause.



And in your twisted mind, Israeli tanks lobbing shells into crowds of refugees whose homes they've destroyed and who were gathered near the beach constitutes "fighting".

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BearGoggles said:

Cal88 said:

BearlySane88 said:

Cal88 said:

If Trump really is going to enforce a permanent cease fire in Gaza, then he does deserve credit for righting the ship, but he as well as the Biden administration also carry the blame for the death and destruction as well as the medieval starvation siege on a population of 2.1 millions that might have lost several hundred thousands in some of the most horrendous conditions imaginable.

If Trump lets Bibi resume the genocide after he recovers the remaining Israeli POWs, then he's a war criminal and a scumbag. I really hope that will not be the case.


Just to be clear, are you saying that if Israel did continue on the offensive that would make Trump a war criminal?



Israel can't do much without US approval, material military support and funding. Their economy would have collapsed without the 100+ billions they are getting this decade from US taxpayers, and without the US military cover and multi-billion THAAD defensive cover they would have been toast against Iranian missiles.

Trump can block Israel from resuming the Gaza genocide after they recover their hostages and Hamas disarms, Bibi's crowd wants to extend their bloodlust, let's see what Trump does.


Cool story. Now do Egypt, Turkey and Qatar vis-a-vis Hamas.

Also, what is your source for the claim that Israel has received $100B+ in aid this decade (i.e., the last 3 years)? I don't believe Israel received that much in the past 10 years, spanning two decades.



I said $100+ billion "they are getting this decade", they've already got close to half that from the Biden and Trump administrations in current and future commitments.

https://costsofwar.watson.brown.edu/sites/default/files/2025-10/U.S.-Military-Aid-to-Israel_Hartung_Costs-of-War-Quincy_Oct-7-2025.pdf

The report says:
Quote:

Given the scale of current and future spending, it is clear the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) could not have done the damage they have done in Gaza or escalated their military activities throughout the region without U.S. financing, weapons, and political support.

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BearGoggles said:

sycasey said:

BearGoggles said:

Absolutely fascinating that as the cease fire has been in the news and ultimately came to fruition today, the people in this thread have little if anything to say about the deal. Those criticizing Israel for that past two years have not been advocating for Hamas to accept the peace plan and now, no celebration of the cease fire.

It is almost like these poster don't really care about Palestinians.

I hope it holds, but I have seen announcements like this before. Waiting and seeing before celebrating anything.

That is irrelevant to my point.

When the deal was still not final, all of the "cease fire now" crowd and protesters suddenly got very quiet even though a deal was reportedly imminent. If they really wanted a "cease fire now" they should/would have been stating that Hamas should accept the plan accepted by Israel and endorsed by all key stakeholders. Those people should have been urging and and to the extending possible pressuring Hamas. Yet complete crickets from most of that crowd and most posters on this board.

And to your separate point, perhaps you and people with your views should be publicly supporting the deal and demanding that both parties - most notably Hamas - comply? As has always been the case, Hamas controls the destiny of the Palestinian people and they can make the cease fire permanent by accepting and performing upon the 21 point plan.

I absolutely hope that both parties are able to stick to the terms of a ceasefire deal. I don't think me posting on the BearInsider Off Topic board has any impact on that, but if that's what you'd like to hear then okay. Agreed.
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Qatar building an air base in Idaho?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DPopqfZEZ6o/?igsh=ZjVpZzdncDk5bmdz
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That's your evidence that Israeli soldiers are bloodthirsty devils? I could show you a thousand clips of "Palestinian" women and and children celebrating the death of Jews and pledging their commitment to add to the number.

And by the way, this guy's use of the word engineer is well chosen. What have Gazan engineers engineered in Gaza since taking it over? Tunnels and weapons, that's it. They inherited all the infrastructure from Israel and turned it into a terrorism factory. Every inclination, every ounce of productive energy that they have is directed toward the destruction of Israel and all the Jews with it. So if Israel is killing engineers, they are merely dismantling the terror machine.
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Zippergate said:

That's your evidence that Israeli soldiers are bloodthirsty devils? I could show you a thousand clips of "Palestinian" women and and children celebrating the death of Jews and pledging their commitment to add to the number.

And by the way, this guy's use of the word engineer is well chosen. What have Gazan engineers engineered in Gaza since taking it over? Tunnels and weapons, that's it. They inherited all the infrastructure from Israel and turned it into a terrorism factory. Every inclination, every ounce of productive energy that they have is directed toward the destruction of Israel and all the Jews with it. So if Israel is killing engineers, they are merely dismantling the terror machine.



How do you manage to cram in just 2 paragraphs so many low-info tripes spoon fed to credulous Christian zionists??

Amazing.
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sycasey said:

BearGoggles said:

sycasey said:

BearGoggles said:

Absolutely fascinating that as the cease fire has been in the news and ultimately came to fruition today, the people in this thread have little if anything to say about the deal. Those criticizing Israel for that past two years have not been advocating for Hamas to accept the peace plan and now, no celebration of the cease fire.

It is almost like these poster don't really care about Palestinians.

I hope it holds, but I have seen announcements like this before. Waiting and seeing before celebrating anything.

That is irrelevant to my point.

When the deal was still not final, all of the "cease fire now" crowd and protesters suddenly got very quiet even though a deal was reportedly imminent. If they really wanted a "cease fire now" they should/would have been stating that Hamas should accept the plan accepted by Israel and endorsed by all key stakeholders. Those people should have been urging and and to the extending possible pressuring Hamas. Yet complete crickets from most of that crowd and most posters on this board.

And to your separate point, perhaps you and people with your views should be publicly supporting the deal and demanding that both parties - most notably Hamas - comply? As has always been the case, Hamas controls the destiny of the Palestinian people and they can make the cease fire permanent by accepting and performing upon the 21 point plan.

I absolutely hope that both parties are able to stick to the terms of a ceasefire deal. I don't think me posting on the BearInsider Off Topic board has any impact on that, but if that's what you'd like to hear then okay. Agreed.

If the standard for posting on this board was that we only post things that have an impact on the outside world, then none of us would/should ever post.

The point is that you and others posting on this board have been incredibly critical of (and in my view biased against) Israel. You've certainly had strong opinions about what Israel should and should not do and had no problem making moral judgements about Israel's actions/inactions. You were insisting upon a cease fire or its equivalent.

But when its time for Hamas to step up and do what's required for a cease fire that Israel and all other stakeholders agreed to, you and others suddenly got quiet. That strongly suggests this was never about a cease fire and that the true intention was that Hamas emerge with continued control of hostages and/or Gaza.
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And yet it's all true.
Cal88
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In your alternative universe where the genociders are the real victims.
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BearGoggles said:

sycasey said:

BearGoggles said:

sycasey said:

BearGoggles said:

Absolutely fascinating that as the cease fire has been in the news and ultimately came to fruition today, the people in this thread have little if anything to say about the deal. Those criticizing Israel for that past two years have not been advocating for Hamas to accept the peace plan and now, no celebration of the cease fire.

It is almost like these poster don't really care about Palestinians.

I hope it holds, but I have seen announcements like this before. Waiting and seeing before celebrating anything.

That is irrelevant to my point.

When the deal was still not final, all of the "cease fire now" crowd and protesters suddenly got very quiet even though a deal was reportedly imminent. If they really wanted a "cease fire now" they should/would have been stating that Hamas should accept the plan accepted by Israel and endorsed by all key stakeholders. Those people should have been urging and and to the extending possible pressuring Hamas. Yet complete crickets from most of that crowd and most posters on this board.

And to your separate point, perhaps you and people with your views should be publicly supporting the deal and demanding that both parties - most notably Hamas - comply? As has always been the case, Hamas controls the destiny of the Palestinian people and they can make the cease fire permanent by accepting and performing upon the 21 point plan.

I absolutely hope that both parties are able to stick to the terms of a ceasefire deal. I don't think me posting on the BearInsider Off Topic board has any impact on that, but if that's what you'd like to hear then okay. Agreed.

If the standard for posting on this board was that we only post things that have an impact on the outside world, then none of us would/should ever post.

The point is that you and others posting on this board have been incredibly critical of (and in my view biased against) Israel. You've certainly had strong opinions about what Israel should and should not do and had no problem making moral judgements about Israel's actions/inactions. You were insisting upon a cease fire or its equivalent.

But when its time for Hamas to step up and do what's required for a cease fire that Israel and all other stakeholders agreed to, you and others suddenly got quiet. That strongly suggests this was never about a cease fire and that the true intention was that Hamas emerge with continued control of hostages and/or Gaza.

I have called Hamas a violent terrorist organization that should not remain in charge many times on this board. It's your black-and-white thinking that somehow assigned to me a pro-Hamas stance. Pay better attention.
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What is it about jews that causes otherwise sane people like Candace Owens to completely lose their minds?

Meanwhile, Best famine ever!



"Khaybar Khaybar ya yahud"
Where have I heard that before?
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> Pay better attention.

ohhkay S, but said another way, might could pay no attention to resident troll blather.
# block 'em all / don't cost nothin'
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Zippergate said:

What is it about jews that causes otherwise sane people like Candace Owens to completely lose their minds?

Meanwhile, Best famine ever!



"Khaybar Khaybar ya yahud"
Where have I heard that before?


On an Israeli propaganda channel with a guy into the Flashdance shirt look.
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smh said:

> Pay better attention.

ohhkay S, but said another way, might could pay no attention to resident troll blather.
# block 'em all / don't cost nothin'


Not sure BearGoggles counts as a troll.
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sycasey said:

smh said:

> Pay better attention.

ohhkay S, but said another way, might could pay no attention to resident troll blather.
# block 'em all / don't cost nothin'


Not sure BearGoggles counts as a troll.

thanks, you might be right; footprints..
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Cal88 said:

If Trump really is going to enforce a permanent cease fire in Gaza, then he does deserve credit for righting the ship, but he as well as the Biden administration also carry the blame for the death and destruction as well as the medieval starvation siege on a population of 2.1 millions that might have lost several hundred thousands in some of the most horrendous conditions imaginable.

If Trump lets Bibi resume the genocide after he recovers the remaining Israeli POWs, then he's a war criminal and a scumbag. I really hope that will not be the case.

Trump deserves credit for nothing.

Trump could have stopped the genocide on his first day in office, just like Reagan had the hostages on a plane back to the United States on his first day in office. It's one thing not to be able to stop the Ukraine War with the European nations so willing to step in and throw money down an infinite hole for a hopeless cause, but Israel can do nothing without it being tacitly approved by the U.S.

The idea of him getting a Nobel Peace Prize for anything he's done in office is ludicrous. It was fun poking at the dumbass liberals who looked the other way while Biden caused untold innocents to die for his vanity and call Trump the "peace president" just to highlight how awful their hero was, but Trump has been nothing but incompetent at ending either of these wars.
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Aunburdened said:

Cal88 said:

If Trump really is going to enforce a permanent cease fire in Gaza, then he does deserve credit for righting the ship, but he as well as the Biden administration also carry the blame for the death and destruction as well as the medieval starvation siege on a population of 2.1 millions that might have lost several hundred thousands in some of the most horrendous conditions imaginable.

If Trump lets Bibi resume the genocide after he recovers the remaining Israeli POWs, then he's a war criminal and a scumbag. I really hope that will not be the case.

Trump deserves credit for nothing.

Trump could have stopped the genocide on his first day in office, just like Reagan had the hostages on a plane back to the United States on his first day in office. It's one thing not to be able to stop the Ukraine War with the European nations so willing to step in and throw money down an infinite hole for a hopeless cause, but Israel can do nothing without it being tacitly approved by the U.S.

The idea of him getting a Nobel Peace Prize for anything he's done in office is ludicrous. It was fun poking at the dumbass liberals who looked the other way while Biden caused untold innocents to die for his vanity and call Trump the "peace president" just to highlight how awful their hero was, but Trump has been nothing but incompetent at ending either of these wars.


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"America is respected around the world."

Sure. Something like that.

New photo of Donald Trump branded 'warning from God' with likeness to South Park https://www.irishstar.com/news/politics/new-photo-donald-trump-branded-36050520?utm_source=app


Donald Trump's health under investigation after 'cover up' on his 'visible decline' https://www.irishstar.com/news/politics/donald-trumps-health-under-investigation-36050260?utm_source=app


Pete's Hegseth's wife accused of stirring up 'war' with Pentagon reporters with 'idiotic' new rules https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/petes-hegseths-wife-accused-stirring-36050745?utm_source=app

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bearister said:

"America is respected around the world."

Sure. Something like that.

New photo of Donald Trump branded 'warning from God' with likeness to South Park https://www.irishstar.com/news/politics/new-photo-donald-trump-branded-36050520?utm_source=app


Donald Trump's health under investigation after 'cover up' on his 'visible decline' https://www.irishstar.com/news/politics/donald-trumps-health-under-investigation-36050260?utm_source=app


Pete's Hegseth's wife accused of stirring up 'war' with Pentagon reporters with 'idiotic' new rules https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/petes-hegseths-wife-accused-stirring-36050745?utm_source=app




You say that like the Irish Star is some reputable news source. It's a left wing tabloid lmao

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/irish-star-bias-and-credibility/



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The Irish detest Trump, whether they express it on a piece of toilet paper or in a White Paper.

Recent Pew Research Center surveys, conducted in 2025 across 24 countries, reveal the following:
Low confidence overall:

A median of 34% of adults expressed confidence in Trump to handle world affairs, while 62% had little or no confidence.

Widespread negative ratings: Views of Trump were negative in 19 of the 24 countries surveyed.

Mixed perceptions of strength: While a median of 80% associated him with "arrogant" and about two-thirds considered him "dangerous," majorities in 18 countries also described him as a "strong leader.

Confidence in Trump in 24 nations | Pew Research Center https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2025/06/11/confidence-in-trump/

*BTW, the Irish Star's Medium Credibility rating is something the sources cited by BI MAGAs should aspire to.
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Reminds me of that time when the world celebrated peace at the end of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising
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