PAC-10-BEAR said:bearister said:PAC-10-BEAR said:bearister said:movielover said:
Anti Trump zealots, fearful, too, he'll get the Noble. Just Biden's war active. Idiots on Reddit believe Russia is being devastated.
I'm good with Trump getting the Noble. What's that for? Who awards it?
And what did Obama get a Noble for?
Obama never had the honor of getting a Noble, I'm pretty sure that's just reserved for Trump.
*Are you guys sophisticated put on artists funin' us or is something else at play?
2009 Nobel Peace Prize Winner?
Democrats trying to figure out how to make Trump out to be a fascist for creating a peace deal between Israel and Hamas. pic.twitter.com/jtDfjYuyBU
— C3 (@C_3C_3) October 9, 2025
Hell has frozen over@washingtonpost is MAGA! pic.twitter.com/o4Cj7KSiA2
— Mike Lee (@BasedMikeLee) October 9, 2025
Cal88 said:
If Trump really is going to enforce a permanent cease fire in Gaza, then he does deserve credit for righting the ship, but he as well as the Biden administration also carry the blame for the death and destruction as well as the medieval starvation siege on a population of 2.1 millions that might have lost several hundred thousands in some of the most horrendous conditions imaginable.
If Trump lets Bibi resume the genocide after he recovers the remaining Israeli POWs, then he's a war criminal and a scumbag. I really hope that will not be the case.
BearlySane88 said:Cal88 said:
If Trump really is going to enforce a permanent cease fire in Gaza, then he does deserve credit for righting the ship, but he as well as the Biden administration also carry the blame for the death and destruction as well as the medieval starvation siege on a population of 2.1 millions that might have lost several hundred thousands in some of the most horrendous conditions imaginable.
If Trump lets Bibi resume the genocide after he recovers the remaining Israeli POWs, then he's a war criminal and a scumbag. I really hope that will not be the case.
Just to be clear, are you saying that if Israel did continue on the offensive that would make Trump a war criminal?
Cal88 said:BearlySane88 said:Cal88 said:
If Trump really is going to enforce a permanent cease fire in Gaza, then he does deserve credit for righting the ship, but he as well as the Biden administration also carry the blame for the death and destruction as well as the medieval starvation siege on a population of 2.1 millions that might have lost several hundred thousands in some of the most horrendous conditions imaginable.
If Trump lets Bibi resume the genocide after he recovers the remaining Israeli POWs, then he's a war criminal and a scumbag. I really hope that will not be the case.
Just to be clear, are you saying that if Israel did continue on the offensive that would make Trump a war criminal?
Israel can't do much without US approval, material military support and funding. Their economy would have collapsed without the 100+ billions they are getting this decade from US taxpayers, and without the US military cover and multi-billion THAAD defensive cover they would have been toast against Iranian missiles.
Trump can block Israel from resuming the Gaza genocide after they recover their hostages and Hamas disarms, Bibi's crowd wants to extend their bloodlust, let's see what Trump does.
sycasey said:BearGoggles said:
Absolutely fascinating that as the cease fire has been in the news and ultimately came to fruition today, the people in this thread have little if anything to say about the deal. Those criticizing Israel for that past two years have not been advocating for Hamas to accept the peace plan and now, no celebration of the cease fire.
It is almost like these poster don't really care about Palestinians.
I hope it holds, but I have seen announcements like this before. Waiting and seeing before celebrating anything.
Cal88 said:BREAKING! βCeasefireβ, in Israelβs dictionary: you cease, I fire.
— Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur oPt (@FranceskAlbs) October 9, 2025
Just hours after the deal - as in January - Israel shoots at Palestinians waiting to return home.
Before any next step, member states must ensure that Israel honours the ceasefire. https://t.co/ne0YvhrVOj
An IDF reservist soldier was killed in a Hamas sniper attack in Gaza City yesterday afternoon, the military announces.
— Emanuel (Mannie) Fabian (@manniefabian) October 10, 2025
The slain soldier is named as Sgt. First Class (res.) Michael Mordechai Nachmani, 26, a Technology And Maintenance Corps soldier in the 614th Combat Engineering⦠pic.twitter.com/Y20f1awllc
BearGoggles said:Cal88 said:BREAKING! βCeasefireβ, in Israelβs dictionary: you cease, I fire.
— Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur oPt (@FranceskAlbs) October 9, 2025
Just hours after the deal - as in January - Israel shoots at Palestinians waiting to return home.
Before any next step, member states must ensure that Israel honours the ceasefire. https://t.co/ne0YvhrVOj
You and Francesca have to be some kind of stupid to not realize that both sides keep fighting until the cease fire takes effect. It just took effect about an hour ago,
Hamas was fighting until the very end.
They tried to kidnap a soldier.
They killed a soldier.
But of course, to you, Palestinians are only victims and never responsible for anything they do or cause.
For two years, the media has told you that this is Israel βtargeting Hamas.β pic.twitter.com/nvZ88YlrSr
— Assal Rad (@AssalRad) October 10, 2025
BearGoggles said:Cal88 said:BearlySane88 said:Cal88 said:
If Trump really is going to enforce a permanent cease fire in Gaza, then he does deserve credit for righting the ship, but he as well as the Biden administration also carry the blame for the death and destruction as well as the medieval starvation siege on a population of 2.1 millions that might have lost several hundred thousands in some of the most horrendous conditions imaginable.
If Trump lets Bibi resume the genocide after he recovers the remaining Israeli POWs, then he's a war criminal and a scumbag. I really hope that will not be the case.
Just to be clear, are you saying that if Israel did continue on the offensive that would make Trump a war criminal?
Israel can't do much without US approval, material military support and funding. Their economy would have collapsed without the 100+ billions they are getting this decade from US taxpayers, and without the US military cover and multi-billion THAAD defensive cover they would have been toast against Iranian missiles.
Trump can block Israel from resuming the Gaza genocide after they recover their hostages and Hamas disarms, Bibi's crowd wants to extend their bloodlust, let's see what Trump does.
Cool story. Now do Egypt, Turkey and Qatar vis-a-vis Hamas.
Also, what is your source for the claim that Israel has received $100B+ in aid this decade (i.e., the last 3 years)? I don't believe Israel received that much in the past 10 years, spanning two decades.
Quote:
Given the scale of current and future spending, it is clear the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) could not have done the damage they have done in Gaza or escalated their military activities throughout the region without U.S. financing, weapons, and political support.
BearGoggles said:sycasey said:BearGoggles said:
Absolutely fascinating that as the cease fire has been in the news and ultimately came to fruition today, the people in this thread have little if anything to say about the deal. Those criticizing Israel for that past two years have not been advocating for Hamas to accept the peace plan and now, no celebration of the cease fire.
It is almost like these poster don't really care about Palestinians.
I hope it holds, but I have seen announcements like this before. Waiting and seeing before celebrating anything.
That is irrelevant to my point.
When the deal was still not final, all of the "cease fire now" crowd and protesters suddenly got very quiet even though a deal was reportedly imminent. If they really wanted a "cease fire now" they should/would have been stating that Hamas should accept the plan accepted by Israel and endorsed by all key stakeholders. Those people should have been urging and and to the extending possible pressuring Hamas. Yet complete crickets from most of that crowd and most posters on this board.
And to your separate point, perhaps you and people with your views should be publicly supporting the deal and demanding that both parties - most notably Hamas - comply? As has always been the case, Hamas controls the destiny of the Palestinian people and they can make the cease fire permanent by accepting and performing upon the 21 point plan.
Israeli Soldier:
— The Resonance (@Partisan_12) October 10, 2025
βFor all those asking why there is no education in Gaza. We bombed them. That sucks. Thatβs how you will never become engineers anymore.β pic.twitter.com/muGs2DOelp
Israel Agrees To Go Back To Killing Palestinians On Less Frequent Basis https://t.co/Cy5X27vBmD
— The Onion (@TheOnion) October 9, 2025
Zippergate said:
That's your evidence that Israeli soldiers are bloodthirsty devils? I could show you a thousand clips of "Palestinian" women and and children celebrating the death of Jews and pledging their commitment to add to the number.
And by the way, this guy's use of the word engineer is well chosen. What have Gazan engineers engineered in Gaza since taking it over? Tunnels and weapons, that's it. They inherited all the infrastructure from Israel and turned it into a terrorism factory. Every inclination, every ounce of productive energy that they have is directed toward the destruction of Israel and all the Jews with it. So if Israel is killing engineers, they are merely dismantling the terror machine.
sycasey said:BearGoggles said:sycasey said:BearGoggles said:
Absolutely fascinating that as the cease fire has been in the news and ultimately came to fruition today, the people in this thread have little if anything to say about the deal. Those criticizing Israel for that past two years have not been advocating for Hamas to accept the peace plan and now, no celebration of the cease fire.
It is almost like these poster don't really care about Palestinians.
I hope it holds, but I have seen announcements like this before. Waiting and seeing before celebrating anything.
That is irrelevant to my point.
When the deal was still not final, all of the "cease fire now" crowd and protesters suddenly got very quiet even though a deal was reportedly imminent. If they really wanted a "cease fire now" they should/would have been stating that Hamas should accept the plan accepted by Israel and endorsed by all key stakeholders. Those people should have been urging and and to the extending possible pressuring Hamas. Yet complete crickets from most of that crowd and most posters on this board.
And to your separate point, perhaps you and people with your views should be publicly supporting the deal and demanding that both parties - most notably Hamas - comply? As has always been the case, Hamas controls the destiny of the Palestinian people and they can make the cease fire permanent by accepting and performing upon the 21 point plan.
I absolutely hope that both parties are able to stick to the terms of a ceasefire deal. I don't think me posting on the BearInsider Off Topic board has any impact on that, but if that's what you'd like to hear then okay. Agreed.
BearGoggles said:sycasey said:BearGoggles said:sycasey said:BearGoggles said:
Absolutely fascinating that as the cease fire has been in the news and ultimately came to fruition today, the people in this thread have little if anything to say about the deal. Those criticizing Israel for that past two years have not been advocating for Hamas to accept the peace plan and now, no celebration of the cease fire.
It is almost like these poster don't really care about Palestinians.
I hope it holds, but I have seen announcements like this before. Waiting and seeing before celebrating anything.
That is irrelevant to my point.
When the deal was still not final, all of the "cease fire now" crowd and protesters suddenly got very quiet even though a deal was reportedly imminent. If they really wanted a "cease fire now" they should/would have been stating that Hamas should accept the plan accepted by Israel and endorsed by all key stakeholders. Those people should have been urging and and to the extending possible pressuring Hamas. Yet complete crickets from most of that crowd and most posters on this board.
And to your separate point, perhaps you and people with your views should be publicly supporting the deal and demanding that both parties - most notably Hamas - comply? As has always been the case, Hamas controls the destiny of the Palestinian people and they can make the cease fire permanent by accepting and performing upon the 21 point plan.
I absolutely hope that both parties are able to stick to the terms of a ceasefire deal. I don't think me posting on the BearInsider Off Topic board has any impact on that, but if that's what you'd like to hear then okay. Agreed.
If the standard for posting on this board was that we only post things that have an impact on the outside world, then none of us would/should ever post.
The point is that you and others posting on this board have been incredibly critical of (and in my view biased against) Israel. You've certainly had strong opinions about what Israel should and should not do and had no problem making moral judgements about Israel's actions/inactions. You were insisting upon a cease fire or its equivalent.
But when its time for Hamas to step up and do what's required for a cease fire that Israel and all other stakeholders agreed to, you and others suddenly got quiet. That strongly suggests this was never about a cease fire and that the true intention was that Hamas emerge with continued control of hostages and/or Gaza.
A Miracle in GAZA!!! #Israel #Gaza #CeasfireNOW pic.twitter.com/lpviP2MoM1
— Traveling israel (@travelingisrae1) October 10, 2025
Zippergate said:
What is it about jews that causes otherwise sane people like Candace Owens to completely lose their minds?
Meanwhile, Best famine ever!A Miracle in GAZA!!! #Israel #Gaza #CeasfireNOW pic.twitter.com/lpviP2MoM1
— Traveling israel (@travelingisrae1) October 10, 2025
"Khaybar Khaybar ya yahud"
Where have I heard that before?
smh said:
> Pay better attention.
ohhkay S, but said another way, might could pay no attention to resident troll blather.
# block 'em all / don't cost nothin'
sycasey said:smh said:
> Pay better attention.
ohhkay S, but said another way, might could pay no attention to resident troll blather.
# block 'em all / don't cost nothin'
Not sure BearGoggles counts as a troll.
Cal88 said:
If Trump really is going to enforce a permanent cease fire in Gaza, then he does deserve credit for righting the ship, but he as well as the Biden administration also carry the blame for the death and destruction as well as the medieval starvation siege on a population of 2.1 millions that might have lost several hundred thousands in some of the most horrendous conditions imaginable.
If Trump lets Bibi resume the genocide after he recovers the remaining Israeli POWs, then he's a war criminal and a scumbag. I really hope that will not be the case.
Aunburdened said:Cal88 said:
If Trump really is going to enforce a permanent cease fire in Gaza, then he does deserve credit for righting the ship, but he as well as the Biden administration also carry the blame for the death and destruction as well as the medieval starvation siege on a population of 2.1 millions that might have lost several hundred thousands in some of the most horrendous conditions imaginable.
If Trump lets Bibi resume the genocide after he recovers the remaining Israeli POWs, then he's a war criminal and a scumbag. I really hope that will not be the case.
Trump deserves credit for nothing.
Trump could have stopped the genocide on his first day in office, just like Reagan had the hostages on a plane back to the United States on his first day in office. It's one thing not to be able to stop the Ukraine War with the European nations so willing to step in and throw money down an infinite hole for a hopeless cause, but Israel can do nothing without it being tacitly approved by the U.S.
The idea of him getting a Nobel Peace Prize for anything he's done in office is ludicrous. It was fun poking at the dumbass liberals who looked the other way while Biden caused untold innocents to die for his vanity and call Trump the "peace president" just to highlight how awful their hero was, but Trump has been nothing but incompetent at ending either of these wars.
BREAKING π¨ Finland President just congratulated President Trump in front of the Press for PEACE π
— MAGA Voice (@MAGAVoice) October 9, 2025
America is respected around the world
Liberals canβt stand this π₯
pic.twitter.com/2jTkrNmRYA
bearister said:
"America is respected around the world."
Sure. Something like that.
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