"reductio at hitlerum." Was that his move on Eva Braun?

The problem there was that anyone speaking opposite the hate propaganda was jailed , killed or otherwise silenced.

So no they should not have censored that hate speech. They needed to not be facist to shut down the other side. People would be smart enough to see truth when given free speech to hear all sides.


You are so ready to give up free speech because you are so sure you are on the good guy side who won't continue to censor truth.


You are on the side of WEF, Blackrock and the like already controlling almost all the media to push their agenda to control the world.


Watch Tommy Robinsons Silenced and tell me what you think about it.

Can you elaborate on "taking action," please?

I'm not sure if the Iran wiki link was an example of us taking action after skimming through…

Was it right for Biden to threaten Facebook for allowing stories about the laptop? About COVID?

What foreign power said something that you think warrants censorship? What did they say?

Did you watch Silenced? Do you agree UK should ban that? Ban every company that doesn't ban it?


The problem with censorship is who is to be trusted to decide what is censored? There are countless examples of far left censorship of free speech labeled as "hate speech" that are truly just persecution of opposing views. UK has thousands of current examples.


Everything Woke is just setting you up to relinquish your right to free speech and unfortunately it is working

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HawaiiBear33 said:

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Those who censor free speech are NEVER the good guys
If you don't believe in free speech for those you hate the n you do not believe in free speech at all

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What do you think, should Nazi hate propaganda have been censored? Or was it okay to spread hatred of Jews to the extent that a nation mobilized to kill 6M of them?

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The answer is "no", governments should not be censoring the speech of citizens. Because there is no single person who is qualified to determine what is "good" speech. While most agree Nazism/fascism is abhorrent, that very quickly descends into the government outlawing any speech it doesn't like. Brazil is only the latest example.

The answer to bad speech is more speech, not less. The left in the US used to understand this (see e.g., Nazis in Skokie). However, now that the left has gained political and economic power, they can't bear the idea that free speech would deprive them of that.

The remarkable thing is that so many "liberals" are content to censor speech they don't like under the banner of "disinformation" or "misinformation". But they have no conception of how dangerous that would be to them if that becomes the new "norm" and then Trump gets re-elected. Or if Maduro is re-elected in Brazil. It is the same reason that the democrat lawfare is so dangerous.

The out of control Judge in Brazil (who was ceded power by their Supreme Court) and the recent arrest of Durov prove one thing. The left have become the authoritarians - the new fascists.

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Discussions related to state and corporate censorship at home and abroad.

CEO of Telegram was reportedly ensnared by Macron, invited to dinner by him, with the arrest warrant issues hours before his plane landed.

🇫🇷 Pavel Durov said that he was lured to France by President Macron.

It turns out that the French president invited Durov to dine together. Pavel told about this during interrogation by the police, the French newspaper Le Canard Chainé claims.

But instead of lunch, Durov was… pic.twitter.com/sWVWbQUuZ3

— Zlatti71 (@Zlatti_71) August 27, 2024

Macron personally intervened to issue Durov French citizenship 2 years ago.

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A putin supporter worried about censorship. 88 needs to have his head examined.

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I am a First Amendment supporter, you're obviously not, so maybe this thread is not for you, you should stick to hall monitoring the 62 active TDS threads on this forum.

And since you've mentioned Putin:

Thought crime arrests:
🇷🇺Russia = 400
🇬🇧 UK = 3,300

Are we okay with this? Are we okay with being made to look bad against a so-called dictatorship? pic.twitter.com/cIEkr0DJ5Q

— Alex Armstrong (@alexharmstrong) August 9, 2024

Woke to me means you are racist, sexist and homophobic if you don't agree 100% with what globalists tell our puppet "leaders" to tell us all what to say and think.

What does woke mean to you?


Btw, I couldn't find which thread somebody was calling somebody else racist for saying Kamala is not black.


I found this video of this furd a-hole saying stupid stuff. He is half Asian so what does he know about black people?

Agree or disagree with Tiger? pic.twitter.com/7uVorbeusq

— Tour Golf (@PGATUOR) September 2, 2024

💯 https://t.co/zyYUOz7qeS

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) September 3, 2024

Kamala said she wants to shut down X if she wins.
pic.twitter.com/ASjdmxcjHt

— aka (@akafacehots) September 2, 2024

More irony from the free speech suppressors

How do people not see?

Zuckerberg ADMITS our government forced his censorship of real news.

France arrests Pavel for not sharing private citizens data.

Brazil bans X for not censoring & limiting political opponents.

UK arrests citizens for speech they don’t like…

People…

— Codie Sanchez (@Codie_Sanchez) September 1, 2024

The events in the U.K, France, and Brazil in conjunction with Kamala's comments about X all happened at the same time. It's almost as if was planned.

British pro-Palestinian journalist put under house arrest last week for social media posts, had her house ransacked and items stolen by 16 armed and masked police goons:

pic.twitter.com/F32oSYBJyx

— Nury Vittachi (@NuryVittachi) September 3, 2024

This is an utterly shocking account from journalist Sarah Wilkinson of her recent violent arrest by 16 counter-terrorism police, several masked, at 7.30am.

They smashed up, or stole, many of her belongings; emptied an urn of her mother's remains over the floor; have denied her…

— Jonathan Cook (@Jonathan_K_Cook) September 2, 2024

Watch this video

This is profoundly disturbing

Sarah Wilkinson has been subject to outrageous police behaviour and is now on draconian bail terms - all for “the crime” of journalism https://t.co/SQ08zzrtJs

— Tom London (@TomLondon6) September 2, 2024

HawaiiBear33 said:

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Kamala said she wants to shut down X if she wins.
pic.twitter.com/ASjdmxcjHt

— aka (@akafacehots) September 2, 2024

More irony from the free speech suppressors

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Right wingers cry about freedom of speech only because it gives them the opportunity to spread their lies. Musk is now spreading disinformation about cities under siege from hordes of armed illegals. X should be shut down and Musk should be arrested.

GoOskie said:

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HawaiiBear33 said:

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Kamala said she wants to shut down X if she wins.
pic.twitter.com/ASjdmxcjHt

— aka (@akafacehots) September 2, 2024

More irony from the free speech suppressors

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Right wingers cry about freedom of speech only because it gives them the opportunity to spread their lies. Musk is now spreading disinformation about cities under siege from hordes of armed illegals. X should be shut down and Musk should be arrested.

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There is plenty of disinformation and misinformation in the NY times and Wapo. We can start with the false reporting on the Trump Russia dossier/pee tape and the black holing of the Biden laptop/corruption, then move on from there.

Can we shut down the NY times and arrest its owners? Arrest Bezos too?

Of course, one distinction is that the NY Times/WaPo are actually publishers whereas X is not. So if we're going down this road, we should probably start with the NY Times and WaPo as opposed to a website that has statutory (not to mention first amendment) protections.

And for the record, there is no widespread conservative movement actually advocating for censorship of the NY Times or WaPo (or any other legacy MSM). That is in stark comparison to Harris and her ilk who do advocate for censorship by government fiat and pressure. Which party is authoritarian and advocates for violation of clear first amendment rights? Your party.

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These are good places to start:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy

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Why can you not answer the question in your own words.

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My answer went over your head, over Tom's head, and over every head that cannot process the fact that reducing speech you don't like or approve of to nazism is ridiculously narrow-minded and constitutes a prime example of reductio ad hitlerum.

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Screw you.
It's a simple question - was Nazi propaganda or Rwanda radio okay?

Do you believe all speech is free speech that should be legally allowed???

I'm asking YOU, not looking for a thesis.

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The problem with censorship is who is to be trusted to decide what is censored?

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I agree.
But i don't necessarily agree that the antidote to lies is unlimited lies.

The FDA has standards for food labels.
And in another industry we have the MSDS. Why do we have nothing that stops fox from tell lies about a rigged election when trump lost all 60 challenge cases? He's outright lying and Fox is a megaphone of his lies. I don't think that's right. It could start a civil war. He's already said there will be ….:

in a March 2024 rally in Ohio, Trump was reported to have said:

"If I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole country."

That may be a tame comment. It's an example. There are many reckless comments he's made, and they resulted in a mob on the Capitol. What next?? It's how these things blow up. But you think it's all fine???

I disagree. There needs to be standards and accountability.




A "Material Safety Data Sheet" (MSDS) is a document that provides important safety information about a chemical product. It includes details on the potential hazards, handling instructions, storage recommendations, and emergency procedures related to the material. The MSDS is crucial for ensuring safe usage and compliance with regulatory standards.

Note that the MSDS has largely been replaced by the "Safety Data Sheet" (SDS) under the Globally Harmonized System of Classification and Labelling of Chemicals (GHS).

concordtom said:

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HawaiiBear33 said:

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The problem there was that anyone speaking opposite the hate propaganda was jailed , killed or otherwise silenced.

So no they should not have censored that hate speech. They needed to not be facist to shut down the other side. People would be smart enough to see truth when given free speech to hear all sides.

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Thank you for addressing the question.
Follow up question:

So, if all Speech is allowed, and it can be purchased and spread more with media ownership and media agenda, AND when people are NOT smart enough (I mean, let's face it, Tony the Tiger sells poison, but people feed it to their kids) then does your proposed system where the best voices prevail???

I'm trying to have an honest discussion here.

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Has HawaiiBear provided any evidence that people in democratic Iran were arrested for speech? I have no idea how free speech was handled in Iran when it was democratic but I've seen no evidence of what HawaiiBear said.

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GoOskie said:

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HawaiiBear33 said:

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Kamala said she wants to shut down X if she wins.
pic.twitter.com/ASjdmxcjHt

— aka (@akafacehots) September 2, 2024

More irony from the free speech suppressors

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Right wingers cry about freedom of speech only because it gives them the opportunity to spread their lies. Musk is now spreading disinformation about cities under siege from hordes of armed illegals. X should be shut down and Musk should be arrested.

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There is plenty of disinformation and misinformation in the NY times and Wapo. We can start with the false reporting on the Trump Russia dossier/pee tape and the black holing of the Biden laptop/corruption, then move on from there.

Can we shut down the NY times and arrest its owners? Arrest Bezos too?

Of course, one distinction is that the NY Times/WaPo are actually publishers whereas X is not. So if we're going down this road, we should probably start with the NY Times and WaPo as opposed to a website that has statutory (not to mention first amendment) protections.

And for the record, there is no widespread conservative movement actually advocating for censorship of the NY Times or WaPo (or any other legacy MSM). That is in stark comparison to Harris and her ilk who do advocate for censorship by government fiat and pressure. Which party is authoritarian and advocates for violation of clear first amendment rights? Your party.

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I think the NY Times and WaPo are trash. I cancelled my NY Times subscription when they helped push the Iraq War on us (that you voted for).

But can you provide a Russia pee tape article you object to (without paywall)? The NY Times helped get Donold elected by hyping Hillary's bogus investigation and suppressing the real investigation into Donolds interactions with Russia.

Also, if you object to them not writing about the Hunter Biden laptop on a timely basis do you also object to news services blackholing the recent Donold campaign hacked materials?

Darryl Cooper may be the best and most honest popular historian in the United States. His latest project is the most forbidden of all: trying to understand World War Two.

(1:20) History of the Israel-Palestine Conflict
(12:39) The Jonestown Cult
(32:10) World War Two
(45:04) How… pic.twitter.com/HJ2B8RjcCY

— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) September 2, 2024

I know none of you will watch this because it's Tucker but this guy he is interviewing is about the most centric person I have seen and he has researched deep. Check him out. I hope I can find more stuff from him free.

According to him the media has been deeply deceptive for 70 years. I'm sure it's much worse now. There are libel and slander laws. Unfortunately they are only enforced to sup port liberal views it seems..


Dissenting views must be allowed. Tyranny always follows speech suppression. Look at the UK. I didn't realize people have been claiming Sharia law will be here soon for 20 years. But it is close now. Rapes and grooming gangs ignored but thousands of Brit's arrested for social media posts. Thousands of stories on X confirming this. Here is a famous person confirming ( not that celebrities don't ever lie or support the bad guys at times)

Rowan Atkinson on free speech https://t.co/NtwyI6z9IX via @YouTube

— A (@A5167655369499) September 5, 2024

Musk was a hero and big supporter of democrats then suddenly he is the devil. It's because X is just about the only platform not censored to push globalist takeover agenda. When people give up their free speech through history they always thought it was for a good cause…and they always became ruled by tyranny after losing free speech.


You don't realize how close the world is to takeover.

You're so focused on your Trump hate that they have been planting in your brain for so long. Most of what you hate him for is severely twisted or just made up. They constantly find new people to bribe to say stuff that he supposedly said.

Mind-blowing that this is literally the US Democratic Party platform of 2024 https://t.co/buAaQ2BeHq

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) September 5, 2024

Your team is making election fraud standards, undermining the constitution, and attacking free speech. You are so focused on trump hate you can't see these incredible threats to our freedom.

concordtom said:

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HawaiiBear33 said:

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The problem with censorship is who is to be trusted to decide what is censored?

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I agree.
But i don't necessarily agree that the antidote to lies is unlimited lies.

The FDA has standards for food labels.
And in another industry we have the MSDS. Why do we have nothing that stops fox from tell lies about a rigged election when trump lost all 60 challenge cases? He's outright lying and Fox is a megaphone of his lies. I don't think that's right. It could start a civil war. He's already said there will be ….:

in a March 2024 rally in Ohio, Trump was reported to have said:

"If I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole country."

That may be a tame comment. It's an example. There are many reckless comments he's made, and they resulted in a mob on the Capitol. What next?? It's how these things blow up. But you think it's all fine???

I disagree. There needs to be standards and accountability.




A "Material Safety Data Sheet" (MSDS) is a document that provides important safety information about a chemical product. It includes details on the potential hazards, handling instructions, storage recommendations, and emergency procedures related to the material. The MSDS is crucial for ensuring safe usage and compliance with regulatory standards.

Note that the MSDS has largely been replaced by the "Safety Data Sheet" (SDS) under the Globally Harmonized System of Classification and Labelling of Chemicals (GHS).

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The overheated rhetoric is on both sides.

The dems have spent 8 years calling Trump Hitler - and then he was shot. They have said he's a threat to democracy and "the very foundations of our republic" They have encouraged violent protesting for the causes they support (BLM riots and rampant destruction of public and private property by "mostly peaceful" crowds). Biden said that Trump should be put in the bullseye. Maxine Waters encouraged her supporters to aggressively confront people they disagree with. AOC called MAGA people terrorists.

And by focusing only on Trump's rhetoric, you are making my point. You only want to censor one side. To you, Fox is a megaphone of lies, but you think MSNBC is just fine. That is always the problem - government and politicians cannot be neutral or fair when it comes to censorship.

Regulation of commercial speech (i.e., FDA labeling) is totally different than political speech. For you to make that facile comparison/analogy reflects a fundamental misunderstanding of what is protected speech (with political speech enjoying the most protection under Supreme Court precedent).

And for the record, I don't think this rhetoric or lying is fine. But the answer is more speech - not less. I don't trust anyone to be the arbiter of political truth - and neither should you. Would you want the Trump administration (if he wins) to have that type of power? You should think long and hard about that when your advocating for censorship.

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BearGoggles said:

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GoOskie said:

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HawaiiBear33 said:

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Kamala said she wants to shut down X if she wins.
pic.twitter.com/ASjdmxcjHt

— aka (@akafacehots) September 2, 2024

More irony from the free speech suppressors

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Right wingers cry about freedom of speech only because it gives them the opportunity to spread their lies. Musk is now spreading disinformation about cities under siege from hordes of armed illegals. X should be shut down and Musk should be arrested.

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There is plenty of disinformation and misinformation in the NY times and Wapo. We can start with the false reporting on the Trump Russia dossier/pee tape and the black holing of the Biden laptop/corruption, then move on from there.

Can we shut down the NY times and arrest its owners? Arrest Bezos too?

Of course, one distinction is that the NY Times/WaPo are actually publishers whereas X is not. So if we're going down this road, we should probably start with the NY Times and WaPo as opposed to a website that has statutory (not to mention first amendment) protections.

And for the record, there is no widespread conservative movement actually advocating for censorship of the NY Times or WaPo (or any other legacy MSM). That is in stark comparison to Harris and her ilk who do advocate for censorship by government fiat and pressure. Which party is authoritarian and advocates for violation of clear first amendment rights? Your party.

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I think the NY Times and WaPo are trash. I cancelled my NY Times subscription when they helped push the Iraq War on us (that you voted for).

But can you provide a Russia pee tape article you object to (without paywall)? The NY Times helped get Donold elected by hyping Hillary's bogus investigation and suppressing the real investigation into Donolds interactions with Russia.

Also, if you object to them not writing about the Hunter Biden laptop on a timely basis do you also object to news services blackholing the recent Donold campaign hacked materials?

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I object to all of the articles that reported the false crap in the Steel Dossier which, we now know, was planted by HRC and other dems.

Here is a 7 part series written by Eric Wemple exposing the complete media failure.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/media-steele-dossier/

Matt Taibbi has also written extensively on this topic.

How is it you know about the Trump hacked materials? Did the MSM immediately assert those were fake? Did they refuse to even investigate the story? No - they did investigate it. That is in stark contract to the Biden laptop which was literally censored at the behest of the FBI (which already knew the laptop was real but refused to confirm that). And news agencies like NPR not only parroted Bidens lie that it was misinformation - they also literally said the story was not newsworthy. If the laptop belonged to a Trump child, the reaction would have been completely opposite.

concordtom said:

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Cal88 said:

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calpoly said:

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Cal88 said:

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These are good places to start:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_Hitlerum

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy

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Why can you not answer the question in your own words.

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My answer went over your head, over Tom's head, and over every head that cannot process the fact that reducing speech you don't like or approve of to nazism is ridiculously narrow-minded and constitutes a prime example of reductio ad hitlerum.

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Screw you.
It's a simple question - was Nazi propaganda or Rwanda radio okay?

Do you believe all speech is free speech that should be legally allowed???

I'm asking YOU, not looking for a thesis.

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These are a bunch of a strawman.

Nazi propaganda or Rwanda radio is not "okay" - but it is legal. The question is what do we do when there's speech we don't like? Authoritarians seek to censor it. The US tradition is more speech. That tradition is based on the First Amendment - which was first for a reason.

Even hate speech is in fact legal. In the US, you can be a nazi or communist. It is protected to advocate for those causes absent an immediate call to violence.

And no one is claiming "all" speech is free speech. We have recognized limits. There are defamation/libel laws. In the business context, you can be sued for fraud if you make false statements. There are in many cases mandatory disclosures imposed by laws (e.g., political adds or medical labels) - but those are content neutral and apply generally. It is illegal to incite violence - but the standard is very high to prove that speech was in fact incitement.

The link below explains all of this.

https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/unprotected-speech-synopsis#:~:text=Incitement%20%E2%80%94%20speech%20that%20is%20both,unprotected%20by%20the%20First%20Amendment.

BearGoggles said:

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BearGoggles said:

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GoOskie said:

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HawaiiBear33 said:

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Kamala said she wants to shut down X if she wins.
pic.twitter.com/ASjdmxcjHt

— aka (@akafacehots) September 2, 2024

More irony from the free speech suppressors

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Right wingers cry about freedom of speech only because it gives them the opportunity to spread their lies. Musk is now spreading disinformation about cities under siege from hordes of armed illegals. X should be shut down and Musk should be arrested.

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There is plenty of disinformation and misinformation in the NY times and Wapo. We can start with the false reporting on the Trump Russia dossier/pee tape and the black holing of the Biden laptop/corruption, then move on from there.

Can we shut down the NY times and arrest its owners? Arrest Bezos too?

Of course, one distinction is that the NY Times/WaPo are actually publishers whereas X is not. So if we're going down this road, we should probably start with the NY Times and WaPo as opposed to a website that has statutory (not to mention first amendment) protections.

And for the record, there is no widespread conservative movement actually advocating for censorship of the NY Times or WaPo (or any other legacy MSM). That is in stark comparison to Harris and her ilk who do advocate for censorship by government fiat and pressure. Which party is authoritarian and advocates for violation of clear first amendment rights? Your party.

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I think the NY Times and WaPo are trash. I cancelled my NY Times subscription when they helped push the Iraq War on us (that you voted for).

But can you provide a Russia pee tape article you object to (without paywall)? The NY Times helped get Donold elected by hyping Hillary's bogus investigation and suppressing the real investigation into Donolds interactions with Russia.

Also, if you object to them not writing about the Hunter Biden laptop on a timely basis do you also object to news services blackholing the recent Donold campaign hacked materials?

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I object to all of the articles that reported the false crap in the Steel Dossier which, we now know, was planted by HRC and other dems.

Here is a 7 part series written by Eric Wemple exposing the complete media failure.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/media-steele-dossier/

Matt Taibbi has also written extensively on this topic.

How is it you know about the Trump hacked materials? Did the MSM immediately assert those were fake? Did they refuse to even investigate the story? No - they did investigate it. That is in stark contract to the Biden laptop which was literally censored at the behest of the FBI (which already knew the laptop was real but refused to confirm that). And news agencies like NPR not only parroted Bidens lie that it was misinformation - they also literally said the story was not newsworthy. If the laptop belonged to a Trump child, the reaction would have been completely opposite.

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Plenty of the Steele Dossier was true. For example, we learned that Russia had kompromat on Donold from the Steele Dossier over his attempts to do a real estate deal in Moscow which he was lying to the American people about. The reporting about the Steele Dossier was incredibly measured. In fact, like Donold's hacked campaign materials, it was suppressed by the media during the election. It wasn't even released to the public until after the election by Buzzfeed.

A Trump child would be treated with kid gloves. How do we know? Look at the bribe taken by Jared Kushner from the Saudis that the media doesn't talk about. Compare that to the lies and misinformation spread about Hunter Biden. A main Republican Congressional witness against Hunter Biden is sitting in jail right now awaiting trial for his lies about Hunter Biden - all of which were breathlessly repeated by Congressional Republicans and the media.

The media has repeatedly censored for Donold (the Steele Dossier, the fact that Russia-Donold ties were being investigated, Kushner's bribe, Donold's hacked campaign materials). And the media repeatedly exposes Democrats (HIllary's hacked campaign materials, Hunter Biden's activities which were irrelevant to the election as he was not running for office and he was not part of the Administration, unlike Kushner).

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concordtom said:

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HawaiiBear33 said:

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The problem with censorship is who is to be trusted to decide what is censored?

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I agree.
But i don't necessarily agree that the antidote to lies is unlimited lies.

The FDA has standards for food labels.
And in another industry we have the MSDS. Why do we have nothing that stops fox from tell lies about a rigged election when trump lost all 60 challenge cases? He's outright lying and Fox is a megaphone of his lies. I don't think that's right. It could start a civil war. He's already said there will be ….:

in a March 2024 rally in Ohio, Trump was reported to have said:

"If I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole country."

That may be a tame comment. It's an example. There are many reckless comments he's made, and they resulted in a mob on the Capitol. What next?? It's how these things blow up. But you think it's all fine???

I disagree. There needs to be standards and accountability.




A "Material Safety Data Sheet" (MSDS) is a document that provides important safety information about a chemical product. It includes details on the potential hazards, handling instructions, storage recommendations, and emergency procedures related to the material. The MSDS is crucial for ensuring safe usage and compliance with regulatory standards.

Note that the MSDS has largely been replaced by the "Safety Data Sheet" (SDS) under the Globally Harmonized System of Classification and Labelling of Chemicals (GHS).

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The dems have spent 8 years calling Trump Hitler

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They have said he's a threat to democracy and "the very foundations of our republic"

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This is true. Donold tried to overthrow the government after the last election.

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They have encouraged violent protesting for the causes they support (BLM riots and rampant destruction of public and private property by "mostly peaceful" crowds).

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Who?

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Biden said that Trump should be put in the bullseye.

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This was in a small call to a small group of people and he has said it was a mistake. Has Donold ever said any of his remarks ever were a mistake?

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AOC called MAGA people terrorists.

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I'm aware of many times MAGA has called AOC a terrorist. AOC did not call MAGA terrorists. She called the people who attacked the Capitol terrorists. She is 100% correct in that and I'm surprised you find that controversial. You must hate our country.