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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 6:58p, 10/21/25
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
sycasey said:
Aunburdened said:
sycasey said:
Anyway, on the "not starting wars" front:


It reminds me of something from a past administration, what was it?

Oh yeah. It was this.



IOIYAD!

This was something that was supposed to stop with Trump, right? The anti-war candidate?
I'll point out that drones are much cheaper than sending fighter jets and risk fewer soldiers.


So you're good with all the collateral damage that came with those drone strikes? Cost over lives lost?
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In reply to DiabloWags • 7:00p, 10/21/25
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BearlySane88 said:
DiabloWags said:
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:
oski003 said:
Cal88 said:

It's more like 5 to 10 years than 25 years, Gao is wrong. Countries like Australia and Canada that have a lot of minerals have a lot of expertise in mining technology, they won't need 25 years to catch up with China if they have the proper resources and policies in place.


Dwags88 said it takes a million years for a mineral mine to go online. You are saying it is only 5-10?


Once again, your reading comprehension is stuck at the 6th grade level.
Here, let me help you again . . .

I said that COPPER MINES in the United States take nearly 29 years on average to get to the point of production.

You're not the sharpest tool in the shed.

Copper Mines: Average Time from Discovery to Production is 17.9 Years


What kind of kindergarten math turns 18 years into 29? You are about as sharp as a butter knife.


Once again, your READING COMPREHENSION is stuck at the 6th grade level.
No wonder why you are easily duped by Trump and his Maga minions.

Lmfao.


The links title is very misleading then.


Sounds like Oski was unable to read the second sentence.
Perhaps a middle school teacher like yourself can help him with his reading comprehension?
lol




When the title to the article is different than your argument, I fully see why he said what he said. I'm assuming he didn't read the article at all because the title was counter to your argument.

You're welcome for explaining
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 7:05p, 10/21/25
Sounds like he was dumb enough to fall for my "trap"

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In reply to DiabloWags • 7:26p, 10/21/25
DiabloWags said:
BearlySane88 said:
DiabloWags said:
oski003 said:
DiabloWags said:
oski003 said:
Cal88 said:

It's more like 5 to 10 years than 25 years, Gao is wrong. Countries like Australia and Canada that have a lot of minerals have a lot of expertise in mining technology, they won't need 25 years to catch up with China if they have the proper resources and policies in place.


Dwags88 said it takes a million years for a mineral mine to go online. You are saying it is only 5-10?


Once again, your reading comprehension is stuck at the 6th grade level.
Here, let me help you again . . .

I said that COPPER MINES in the United States take nearly 29 years on average to get to the point of production.

You're not the sharpest tool in the shed.

Copper Mines: Average Time from Discovery to Production is 17.9 Years


What kind of kindergarten math turns 18 years into 29? You are about as sharp as a butter knife.


Once again, your READING COMPREHENSION is stuck at the 6th grade level.
No wonder why you are easily duped by Trump and his Maga minions.

Lmfao.


The links title is very misleading then.


Sounds like Oski was unable to read the second sentence.
Perhaps a middle school teacher like yourself can help him with his reading comprehension?
lol




And "Key contributors to these delays include lengthy permitting processes, regulatory challenges, and investment uncertainties..."

Assuming liberal judges from whatever district the Democrats can find don't initially stop it, Trump's government can cut through this red tape. It is obnoxious to ignore this and insist that mines can't be brought online much faster.
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In reply to BearlySane88 • 9:53p, 10/21/25
BearlySane88 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
sycasey said:
Aunburdened said:
sycasey said:
Anyway, on the "not starting wars" front:


It reminds me of something from a past administration, what was it?

Oh yeah. It was this.



IOIYAD!

This was something that was supposed to stop with Trump, right? The anti-war candidate?

I'll point out that drones are much cheaper than sending fighter jets and risk fewer soldiers.


So you're good with all the collateral damage that came with those drone strikes? Cost over lives lost?

Thus far, it hasn't appeared that saving lives is much of a priority for the Trump administration so we might as well use cheaper methods to destroy suspected smuggling boats.
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In reply to sycasey • 10:03p, 10/21/25
He should RIF a lot more dead weight.
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10:22p, 10/21/25
Facebook: January 6 Political Prisoner Jake Lang Files $25 Million Federal Lawsuit Against FBI Director Christopher Wray and DOJ

Self-described January 6 political prisoner Jake Lang has officially filed a $25 million federal lawsuit against FBI Director Christopher Wray and the Department of Justice, alleging false imprisonment, constitutional violations, and an organized government cover-up surrounding the events of January 6, 2021.

Lang, who says he was imprisoned for 1,467 days without a trial, claims the FBI and DOJ knowingly deployed hundreds of undercover agents and informants into the crowd that day and then concealed that information from defendants, juries, ...

According to Lang, the forthcoming federal lawsuit will name Wray and "hundreds of undercover agents" as defendants for alleged constitutional violations, including:

Fourth Amendment: illegal search and seizure;

Fifth Amendment: denial of due process;

Eighth Amendment: cruel and unusual punishment for prolonged solitary confinement.

"They hid exculpatory evidence the kind that could have cleared us," Lang said. "They refused to disclose how many federal agents and confidential informants were embedded in that crowd. That's a violation of every constitutional protection we're supposed to have."...

Imprisoned Without Trial

Lang says he spent over four years in custody without bond or trial, despite having no prior criminal record.

"Three times I applied for bond," he recalled. "They refused me every time. I was 25 years old when I was arrested and they kept me locked up for 1,467 days, no trial, no due process. They cut off visits, denied haircuts, and left us in filth while they built their political narrative."...

If Lang's claims are substantiated in court, it could represent one of the most explosive constitutional cases in modern U.S. history one that reopens old questions about federal involvement on January 6 and the true scale of the government's role in the event that reshaped American politics.
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In reply to movielover • 4:09a, 10/22/25
You really are gonna hitch you wagon to this loser?
You will regret this. LOL!
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According to prosecutors, Lang, wearing a gas mask and wielding a baseball bat, struck officers whilst shouting taunts such as "This is our house, we paid for this f****** building."
When interviewed by Newsweek, Lang didn't deny handling a baseball bat and wearing a mask but insisted he didn't take them to the demonstration……
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Those nasty racist tweets….Backfill of the swamp just took a small detour:

NYT: The nomination of Paul Ingrassia, a far-right lawyer and firebrand podcaster who had been tapped by President Trump to lead the Office of Special Counsel, collapsed on Tuesday amid Republican opposition in the Senate, a day after Politico reported that he had sent a series of racist text messages.
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In reply to movielover • 9:29a, 10/22/25
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did you bother to read the analysis ? Or do you just like Bebo sensational headlines and regurgitate most everything? What a nothing burger and waste of investigative $$
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In reply to cal83dls79 • 9:35a, 10/22/25
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did you bother to read the analysis ? Or do you just like Bebo sensational headlines and regurgitate most everything? What a nothing burger and waste of investigative $$


That's his only talent here.
Regurgitating someone else's sensationalized headlines.
What's even more bizarre is that he actually believes that he is moving the "needle" on a board like this.

lol

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10:03a, 10/22/25
How long will it take these racist clowns to figure out they need burner phones for the times when they want to text the quiet part out loud?


Or they can come on here and do what 2024, movielover, Hawaii, that new guy, and concerntroll003 do.
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12:46p, 10/22/25
US Strikes 8th Drug Boat in Pacific Ocean

At least 34 people have been killed in U.S. strikes on drug boats.
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In reply to Muckieeye • 1:02p, 10/22/25
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How long will it take these racist clowns to figure out they need burner phones for the times when they want to text the quiet part out loud?


Or they can come on here and do what 2024, movielover, Hawaii, that new guy, and concerntroll003 do.

How long will it take Aunbear89 to figure out that Donald Trump is her daddy?
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 1:17p, 10/22/25
I don't know. Why don't you ask him? He's living rent-free in your otherwise empty head.
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 1:19p, 10/22/25
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US Strikes 8th [we swear it has drugs on board. You will have to trust us on this because F*** you] Boat in Pacific Ocean

At least 34 people have been killed in U.S. strikes on [we swear it has drugs on board. You will have to trust us on this because F*** you] boats.

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In reply to cal83dls79 • 1:40p, 10/22/25
cal83dls79 said:
movielover said:

did you bother to read the analysis ? Or do you just like Bebo sensational headlines and regurgitate most everything? What a nothing burger and waste of investigative $$





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Last November 8th, on the Saturday after Election Day, one of the more bizarre post-scripts to Donald Trump's re-election emerged in the form of a Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) decision to sideline one official accused of telling FEMA workers to "avoid homes advertising Trump" while canvassing for victims of Hurricane Milton in Florida. The Daily Wire spoke to multiple FEMA officials who produced screenshots of entries like "Trump sign, no contact per leadership":

The most painful confirmation, however, came from then-FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell, who testified after the election that the episode was an "isolated incident," as well as "unacceptable" and "heartbreaking," suggesting the problem was limited to one eventually-terminated Disaster Survivor Assistance crew leader named Marn'i Washington, adding: "I do not believe that this employee's actions are indicative of any widespread cultural problems at FEMA."

Washington didn't take the CYA maneuver lying down. She made a series of aggressive media appearances, saying repeatedly "my orders come from my superior" from above when instructing subordinates to avoid homes that made some FEMA workers "uncomfortable" by featuring Trump paraphernalia:

The Democrats generally maintained that decisions to skip over houses featuring Trump signs or signs about guns were legit and safety-based. Republicans blasted FEMA workers for comparing Trump voters to "vicious dogs" and suggested instructions like "Per leadership no stop Trump flag," and "Trump sign, no contact per leadership" were indicative of a wider problem.

A year later, the Privacy Office of the Department of Homeland Security is releasing a review of that episode, the broader issue of using disaster relief work to collect political intelligence on voters, and the potentially withholding of benefits from some with the wrong beliefs. Perhaps unsurprisingly, the new administration found more than just one "isolated incident," describing violations of the Privacy Act of 1974, which with a few exceptions bars collection of information about First Amendment-protected speech, like political signage. Most tellingly, though, DHS investigators found in a near-exact parallel to trends in pro-censorship programs that a lot of the political controversy surrounding FEMA aid grew out of the vague way in which the agency's Disaster Survivor Assistance Field Operations Guide was written.

The Field Operations Guide instructed FEMA workers to "Remove yourself from the situation if you feel threatened" when dealing with "hostile" individuals, the only problem being, as the new report notes: "The Disaster Survivor Assistance Field Operations Guide does not define the term 'hostile.'"

"The way the guide was written, FEMA employees had leeway to skip outreach to a house if its signs made them feel uncomfortable," one Washington-based First Amendment lawyer put it last week. "So it's basically the same concept of a harm or distress standard we're seeing in Europe with speech issues, where the emotional response of the observer is what matters legally, as opposed to a concrete rule."

The DHS report doesn't describe a huge number of instances, but does list examples of FEMA workers from various relief efforts taking down political information well before the incident that actually made the news. FEMA's actions were "not limited to the Hurricane Milton disaster relief efforts in 2024," and in fact, "FEMA impermissibly collected prohibited information at least dating back to the Hurricane Ida disaster in September 2021."

Some examples cited: October, 2021: "Homeowner had sign stated… this is Trump country." September, 2021: "A lot of political flags, posters, etc. '**** Joe Biden,' 'MAGA 2024,' 'Joe Biden Sucks' 'Trump 2024' We do not recommend anyone visiting this location." November 2024: 'There was a political flyer so I didn't leave a FEMA brochure." Neither Criswell nor Washington responded to requests for comment.

The DHS report lists several recommendations for changing procedures to make both political information-gathering and subjective aid delivery harder, but the problem the report identifies suggests a broader, hairier problem. Federal aid workers empowered to withhold relief based on what they consider "hostile" signage in either direction creates an opening for a federalized version of the old "walking-around-money" operation pioneered by ward-heelers in city elections, in which petty cash made it into the hands of one party's potential voters. The number of incidents in the new DHS report don't come close to suggesting an election-altering phenomenon (the most controversial instances came last year, but still totaled under 100 episodes), but as one official who worked on the report noted, the phenomenon still "really escalated in the last administration."

The DC-based lawyer said the mere fact that FEMA aid can be politicized should worry members of both parties enough to do something about it. "People hate the government enough as it is. If it's known that disaster relief can be politicized and nobody fixes the problem, imagine how mad people will be one or two cycles from now."

Personally, I think any house in a disaster area with a "**** Joe Biden" sign should get double relief.

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Folks, Trump is blowing up drug boats.
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 5:00p, 10/22/25
PAC-10-BEAR said:
Folks, Trump is blowing up drug boats.
As I said upthread:

"Thus far, it hasn't appeared that saving lives is much of a priority for the Trump administration"

Indeed, Pac-10-Bear seems positively giddy about it.
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 5:10p, 10/22/25
PAC-10-BEAR said:
Muckieeye said:
How long will it take these racist clowns to figure out they need burner phones for the times when they want to text the quiet part out loud?


Or they can come on here and do what 2024, movielover, Hawaii, that new guy, and concerntroll003 do.

How long will it take Aunbear89 to figure out that Donald Trump is her daddy?


How long will it take you to figure out that this makes Aunbear89 your sister?

Where them Binders at?!?!?
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5:22p, 10/22/25
Jeremy Paner, a former sanctions investigator at the Treasury Department and now a partner at law firm Hughes Hubbard & Reed, said the absence of banks and Indian or Chinese oil purchasers in Wednesday's sanctions "will not get Putin's attention."



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In reply to Aunburdened • 6:13p, 10/22/25
Aunburdened said:
cal83dls79 said:
movielover said:

did you bother to read the analysis ? Or do you just like Bebo sensational headlines and regurgitate most everything? What a nothing burger and waste of investigative $$





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Last November 8th, on the Saturday after Election Day, one of the more bizarre post-scripts to Donald Trump's re-election emerged in the form of a Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) decision to sideline one official accused of telling FEMA workers to "avoid homes advertising Trump" while canvassing for victims of Hurricane Milton in Florida. The Daily Wire spoke to multiple FEMA officials who produced screenshots of entries like "Trump sign, no contact per leadership":

The most painful confirmation, however, came from then-FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell, who testified after the election that the episode was an "isolated incident," as well as "unacceptable" and "heartbreaking," suggesting the problem was limited to one eventually-terminated Disaster Survivor Assistance crew leader named Marn'i Washington, adding: "I do not believe that this employee's actions are indicative of any widespread cultural problems at FEMA."

Washington didn't take the CYA maneuver lying down. She made a series of aggressive media appearances, saying repeatedly "my orders come from my superior" from above when instructing subordinates to avoid homes that made some FEMA workers "uncomfortable" by featuring Trump paraphernalia:

The Democrats generally maintained that decisions to skip over houses featuring Trump signs or signs about guns were legit and safety-based. Republicans blasted FEMA workers for comparing Trump voters to "vicious dogs" and suggested instructions like "Per leadership no stop Trump flag," and "Trump sign, no contact per leadership" were indicative of a wider problem.

A year later, the Privacy Office of the Department of Homeland Security is releasing a review of that episode, the broader issue of using disaster relief work to collect political intelligence on voters, and the potentially withholding of benefits from some with the wrong beliefs. Perhaps unsurprisingly, the new administration found more than just one "isolated incident," describing violations of the Privacy Act of 1974, which with a few exceptions bars collection of information about First Amendment-protected speech, like political signage. Most tellingly, though, DHS investigators found in a near-exact parallel to trends in pro-censorship programs that a lot of the political controversy surrounding FEMA aid grew out of the vague way in which the agency's Disaster Survivor Assistance Field Operations Guide was written.

The Field Operations Guide instructed FEMA workers to "Remove yourself from the situation if you feel threatened" when dealing with "hostile" individuals, the only problem being, as the new report notes: "The Disaster Survivor Assistance Field Operations Guide does not define the term 'hostile.'"

"The way the guide was written, FEMA employees had leeway to skip outreach to a house if its signs made them feel uncomfortable," one Washington-based First Amendment lawyer put it last week. "So it's basically the same concept of a harm or distress standard we're seeing in Europe with speech issues, where the emotional response of the observer is what matters legally, as opposed to a concrete rule."

The DHS report doesn't describe a huge number of instances, but does list examples of FEMA workers from various relief efforts taking down political information well before the incident that actually made the news. FEMA's actions were "not limited to the Hurricane Milton disaster relief efforts in 2024," and in fact, "FEMA impermissibly collected prohibited information at least dating back to the Hurricane Ida disaster in September 2021."

Some examples cited: October, 2021: "Homeowner had sign stated… this is Trump country." September, 2021: "A lot of political flags, posters, etc. '**** Joe Biden,' 'MAGA 2024,' 'Joe Biden Sucks' 'Trump 2024' We do not recommend anyone visiting this location." November 2024: 'There was a political flyer so I didn't leave a FEMA brochure." Neither Criswell nor Washington responded to requests for comment.

The DHS report lists several recommendations for changing procedures to make both political information-gathering and subjective aid delivery harder, but the problem the report identifies suggests a broader, hairier problem. Federal aid workers empowered to withhold relief based on what they consider "hostile" signage in either direction creates an opening for a federalized version of the old "walking-around-money" operation pioneered by ward-heelers in city elections, in which petty cash made it into the hands of one party's potential voters. The number of incidents in the new DHS report don't come close to suggesting an election-altering phenomenon (the most controversial instances came last year, but still totaled under 100 episodes), but as one official who worked on the report noted, the phenomenon still "really escalated in the last administration."

The DC-based lawyer said the mere fact that FEMA aid can be politicized should worry members of both parties enough to do something about it. "People hate the government enough as it is. If it's known that disaster relief can be politicized and nobody fixes the problem, imagine how mad people will be one or two cycles from now."

Personally, I think any house in a disaster area with a "**** Joe Biden" sign should get double relief.

"really escalated". With hard numbers like this I can see the alarm!
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Cue up another guy "donating" to the Ballroom:

President Donald Trump has pardoned Binance founder Changpeng Zhao, who had previously pleaded guilty to enabling money laundering while heading the cryptocurrency exchange, the White House said Thursday.

The pardon came two months after The Wall Street Journal reported that the Trump family's own crypto venture, which has generated about $4.5 billion since the 2024 election, has been helped by "a partnership with an under-the-radar trading platform quietly administered by Binance."
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11:48a, 10/23/25
Pardons are going great!

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In reply to sycasey • 12:16p, 10/23/25
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Pardons are going great!


LMAO at Biden voters complaining about unethical pardons.

Democrats believe in nothing and remember even less.

And yes, of course this is corrupt pay to play abuse of the pardon power by Trump, but you have no leg to stand on in criticizing it.
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In reply to sycasey • 12:45p, 10/23/25
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Pardons are going great!

Binance paid over $4 billion in penalties and CZ personally paid $50 million in fines and served prison time.

What did the people who were pre-emptively pardoned by Biden have to pay and serve?
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In reply to cal83dls79 • 12:50p, 10/23/25
cal83dls79 said:
Cue up another guy "donating" to the Ballroom:

President Donald Trump has pardoned Binance founder Changpeng Zhao, who had previously pleaded guilty to enabling money laundering while heading the cryptocurrency exchange, the White House said Thursday.

The pardon came two months after The Wall Street Journal reported that the Trump family's own crypto venture, which has generated about $4.5 billion since the 2024 election, has been helped by "a partnership with an under-the-radar trading platform quietly administered by Binance."

There's no evidence that CZ donated to the Trump campaign or for the new ballroom. CZ also stepped down from Binance as part of his plea deal with the Biden DOJ.

Keep reaching for the stars.
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Concerns rise over Kristi Noem's cybersecurity strategy - POLITICO https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/23/kristi-noem-cybersecurity-strategy-concerns-cisa-00619108

"Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem promised to prioritize a "comprehensive, whole-of-government approach to cybersecurity."
But over the last nine months, a key cybersecurity agency under Noem's command has had its staffing slashed by more than a third, axed funding for election security programs and scaled back its support to state and local governments to protect against cyber threats.

Lawmakers and those within the cyber community who work closely with CISA to defend the nation's critical infrastructure from hackers say the Trump administration's cutbacks have weakened our cyber defenses, particularly as adversaries such as China and Russia have intensified their assaults on U.S. networks.

"The administration keeps undermining CISA, which serves at the forefront to defend our infrastructure and private sector from cyberattacks," said Rep. Don Bacon (R-Neb.), chair of the House Armed Services Committee's cyber subcommittee and a frequent critic of the Trump administration's policies. "Our vulnerability to our adversaries' cyberattacks grows, and we have handicapped ourselves in defending against these attacks."
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In reply to Aunburdened • 1:00p, 10/23/25
Aunburdened said:
sycasey said:
Pardons are going great!


LMAO at Biden voters complaining about unethical pardons.

Democrats believe in nothing and remember even less.

And yes, of course this is corrupt pay to play abuse of the pardon power by Trump, but you have no leg to stand on in criticizing it.

I criticized Biden's pardons (especially of his son) when he made them, so go after someone else here.
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In reply to PAC-10-BEAR • 5:59p, 10/23/25
PAC-10-BEAR said:
cal83dls79 said:
Cue up another guy "donating" to the Ballroom:

President Donald Trump has pardoned Binance founder Changpeng Zhao, who had previously pleaded guilty to enabling money laundering while heading the cryptocurrency exchange, the White House said Thursday.

The pardon came two months after The Wall Street Journal reported that the Trump family's own crypto venture, which has generated about $4.5 billion since the 2024 election, has been helped by "a partnership with an under-the-radar trading platform quietly administered by Binance."

There's no evidence that CZ donated to the Trump campaign or for the new ballroom. CZ also stepped down from Binance as part of his plea deal with the Biden DOJ.

Keep reaching for the stars.
uh, how Trump spends the graft is fungible …ballrooms, planes, cyber platform support, country club resorts, misc favors, tariff relief …you know
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9:50p, 10/23/25
She'll be looking for a new job soon.

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11:14p, 10/23/25
No new wars!

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