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Cal88
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MinotStateBeav
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We should be treating AIPAC as a Foreign Agent. This is one of the areas I completely disagree with the Trump Admin about. I would also like to treat Israel like a normal country and not this ally that we need to shield because our shielding of them allows them to be very bulldogish to its neighbors instead of being forced to have fair give and takes. I also understand that its neighbors have a view that Israel should not exist....so its not a easy solution. But overall our shielding of Israel allows them to puff out their chest far more than it should be and that causes a lot of issues.
movielover
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How long are we supposed to subsidize Europe and their lavish social spending? President Donald Trump is effectively ending the Marshal Plan and one-way tariffs. President Trump's plan has now instituted global reciprocal tariffs, by matching all tariff and non-tariff trade barriers and restrictions.

Liberation Day in America


sycasey
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movielover said:

How long are we supposed to subsidize Europe and their lavish social spending? President Donald Trump is effectively ending the Marshal Plan and one-way tariffs. President Trump's plan has now instituted global reciprocal tariffs, by matching all tariff and non-tariff trade barriers and restrictions.

Liberation Day in America





MinotStateBeav
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chazzed
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MAGAs now think that rising costs of living and crashing the stock market are good things.
MinotStateBeav
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chazzed said:

MAGAs now think that rising costs of living and crashing the stock market are good things.
Actually since the stock market is artificially been inflated, making it come down is a good thing.
sycasey
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chazzed said:

MAGAs now think that rising costs of living and crashing the stock market are good things.

movielover
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MinotStateBeav said:

chazzed said:

MAGAs now think that rising costs of living and crashing the stock market are good things.
Actually since the stock market is artificially been inflated, making it come down is a good thing.


You can see how radical Dems have become when they fight eliminating waste, fraud, and abuse. Elon is a historic figure, a godsend. Yes, mistakes will be made. But Trump and Elon aren't handing $75 Billion in military weapons to terrorists, or starting a war w Russia.

They could do a better job w PR, explaining that they're saving Social Security, Medicare, etc.

Either way the Beltway will be livid bc hundreds of Billions in fraud and waste, 90% to Democrats, is being uncovered. Billions for propoganda and whacky politics.

Currently unclear on how much of these cuts have to go through Congress. Maybe President Trump's plan is to bundle together $600 B or $800 B in cuts for Congress to vote on.

Selling citizenship will create more Demand for housing, driving up prices in certain sectors, but also possibly bring in more investment capital.

The press sure is trying to push Elon out... he's only been there a few months, he has 130 days for Round 1.

movielover
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sycasey
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Oh man, they're really doubling down on this. Stock market crashes are good now!
wraptor347
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Seriously. I will never understand such blind faith and devotion to billionaires. Their greed and self interest could not be more clear.

Just a few months ago, the price of eggs were too high, but now it's good when the price of everything goes up!
sycasey
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wraptor347 said:

Seriously. I will never understand such blind faith and devotion to billionaires. Their greed and self interest could not be more clear.

Just a few months ago, the price of eggs were too high, but now it's good when the price of everything goes up!

Even the billionaire self-interest would seem to be harmed by this tariff plan. The only conclusion is that Trump is just an idiot.
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chazzed
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sycasey said:

Oh man, they're really doubling down on this. Stock market crashes are good now!


Next they'll claim that job losses are good.

sycasey
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chazzed said:

sycasey said:

Oh man, they're really doubling down on this. Stock market crashes are good now!


Next they'll claim that job losses are good.

Oh I think it's already happening. The messaging is going on: "Just some short-term pain! Give it time and it will be great! Just a little more pain! It's gonna be the best, the best. Believe me!"



The Biden team tried to do the same for inflation. Didn't work, and this won't either. If people are losing money they will punish the ruling party at the ballot box, guaranteed. That also means that the "long term" of Trump's plan will never happen, because someone else will come in and reverse it.
chazzed
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Good point. Job losses also fall under the "short term pain" umbrella in the eyes of zombie MAGAs. As long as the con doesn't work on swing voters, it's okay.
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Eastern Oregon Bear
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Whoever talks to Trump last wins. Today's winner is Laura Loomer.

Trump purges National Security Council staff after meeting with Laura Loomer
Eastern Oregon Bear
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sycasey said:

chazzed said:

sycasey said:

Oh man, they're really doubling down on this. Stock market crashes are good now!


Next they'll claim that job losses are good.

Oh I think it's already happening. The messaging is going on: "Just some short-term pain! Give it time and it will be great! Just a little more pain! It's gonna be the best, the best. Believe me!"



The Biden team tried to do the same for inflation. Didn't work, and this won't either. If people are losing money they will punish the ruling party at the ballot box, guaranteed. That also means that the "long term" of Trump's plan will never happen, because someone else will come in and reverse it.
Hey, I've been told here and other places that my losing my job is OK and good for the country because it's my pain not theirs. This is usually done with more than a little glee. It hurts.
movielover
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So I guess we should follow the Autopilot plan, spend more hot checks to inflate Demand, and keep adding Trillions in debt while the EU and China rip us off?

Looks like the EU already worried about China dumping goods there.
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MinotStateBeav said:

chazzed said:

MAGAs now think that rising costs of living and crashing the stock market are good things.
Actually since the stock market is artificially been inflated, making it come down is a good thing.
what? You sound like a communist… all making sense now. You and lover of movies obviously don't have any money invested in the market, nor have been to a cal sporting event. Michael pitts my ass . You'd rather see America fail nd claim victory
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movielover said:

So I guess we should follow the Autopilot plan, spend more hot checks to inflate Demand, and keep adding Trillions in debt while the EU and China rip us off?

Looks like the EU already worried about China dumping goods there.
are you ok?
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movielover
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cal83dls79 said:

movielover said:

So I guess we should follow the Autopilot plan, spend more hot checks to inflate Demand, and keep adding Trillions in debt while the EU and China rip us off?

Looks like the EU already worried about China dumping goods there.
are you ok?


Michael Pitts has your panties in a bunch. Ha.
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movielover
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Esteemed Stanford historian Dr. Thomas Sowell has said he's against tariffs, unless they're short term, used for other purposes.



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cal83dls79
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movielover said:

cal83dls79 said:

movielover said:

So I guess we should follow the Autopilot plan, spend more hot checks to inflate Demand, and keep adding Trillions in debt while the EU and China rip us off?

Looks like the EU already worried about China dumping goods there.
are you ok?


Michael Pitts has your panties in a bunch. Ha.
answered my question. Ty
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Big C
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cal83dls79 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

chazzed said:

MAGAs now think that rising costs of living and crashing the stock market are good things.
Actually since the stock market is artificially been inflated, making it come down is a good thing.
what? You sound like a communist… all making sense now. You and lover of movies obviously don't have any money invested in the market, nor have been to a cal sporting event. Michael pitts my ass . You'd rather see America fail nd claim victory

Like him or not, poster movielover gets some bonus points for an accurate reference from the Kuchen Years.

Okay, maybe not from bearister: to get bonus points from him, you pretty much have to donate a kidney or something.
movielover
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President Trump has introduced a number of new tariff policies," [Jared] Golden [D-ME] said. "What I can say now is I'm pleased the president is building his tariff agenda on the foundation of a universal 10 percent tariff like the one I proposed in the BUILT USA Act. This ring fence around the American economy is a good start to erasing our unsustainable trade deficits."

Golden emphasized he and his team are still reviewing the details of the administration's plan but signaled a willingness to work across party lines to address what he calls a "broken 'free trade' system."

MinotStateBeav
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cal83dls79 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

chazzed said:

MAGAs now think that rising costs of living and crashing the stock market are good things.
Actually since the stock market is artificially been inflated, making it come down is a good thing.
I smoke a lot of peyote.
Big C
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movielover said:

President Trump has introduced a number of new tariff policies," [Jared] Golden [D-ME] said. "What I can say now is I'm pleased the president is building his tariff agenda on the foundation of a universal 10 percent tariff like the one I proposed in the BUILT USA Act. This ring fence around the American economy is a good start to erasing our unsustainable trade deficits."

Golden emphasized he and his team are still reviewing the details of the administration's plan but signaled a willingness to work across party lines to address what he calls a "broken 'free trade' system."



I don't like the idea of a universal ten percent tariff. Tariffs are better used as temporary defensive tactics (to get other countries to drop their tariffs against us).

We have had trade deficits throughout good times and bad. They are not necessarily indicative of a problem. Usually, in our situation, it shows that we have a prosperous enough economy to where we can afford to buy more things from other countries than they can from us. We are wealthier and that's a good thing.

A rising tide lifts all boats. Tariffs calm the tides... or even reduce them. We don't need or even want perpetual low tides. To continue the metaphor, I am reminded of my trips to Brittany, in France, where the tides are enormous. At low tide, all the boats are out there, grounded, laying on their side. It was interesting, but kind of sad to see them like that.
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Speaking of France ...

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^ Lawfare! Dig a little deeper and you are likely to uncover George Soros, right?
 
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