Anarchistbear said:
The approval of missiles has no effect on the consequence of the war other than escalation- it is for escalation not strategic reasons. Putin in response will escalate and the Ukrainians will suffer more and lose more territory.
I recall this being a threat long before Russia and Ukraine were fighting.concordtom said:sycasey said:Zippergate said:
Try to imagine a scenario where Russia is firing missiles into the United States through a proxy. Would you still have a cavalier attitude then?
I'll have an opinion on that if and when it actually happens. Who do you think is going to directly attack the US?
Nation-stateless terrorists and bots.
Watch 2007 video of Senator Joe Biden clarifying that 2024 President Joe Biden has committed an impeachable offense by authorizing US supplied and targeted missiles to attack the sovereign country of Russia.pic.twitter.com/4y06Zwh4o6
— Thomas Massie (@RepThomasMassie) November 20, 2024
JUST IN: The United States closes its embassy in Kyiv urgently warning of a ‘significant’ air attack.
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) November 20, 2024
The development comes after Ukraine used U.S. made ballistic missiles to strike Russia, a move that Putin said would mean the U.S. is at war with Russia.
On Wednesday, the U.S.… pic.twitter.com/0VW59LZSJC
Zippergate said:
A new phase of the war. And just in time for Christmas!JUST IN: The United States closes its embassy in Kyiv urgently warning of a ‘significant’ air attack.
— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) November 20, 2024
The development comes after Ukraine used U.S. made ballistic missiles to strike Russia, a move that Putin said would mean the U.S. is at war with Russia.
On Wednesday, the U.S.… pic.twitter.com/0VW59LZSJC
That is all you do, so you've got the forum's quota taken care of.Zippergate said:The point was to see things from Russia's perspective...sycasey said:Zippergate said:
Try to imagine a scenario where Russia is firing missiles into the United States through a proxy. Would you still have a cavalier attitude then?
I'll have an opinion on that if and when it actually happens. Who do you think is going to directly attack the US?
concordtom said:Big C said:
I'm all about negotiation: How about Ukraine tells Putin that they will stop firing US-made missiles into territory that Russia currently occupies, if Putin sends his WW III North Korean troops back home (they can have one last big meal before departing).
After that, NATO can tell Putin that Ukraine will never join, provided the Russian troops get the heck out of 50% of whatever they've occupied and Russia honors Ukraine's sovereignty.
So simple!
So, you're giving Russia 50% ?
Wow.
bearister said:
The President elect met with Biden and he met with Zelensky. The President elect is now silent about the situation with only a few of his talking pets squeak barking. Suffering in silence is not one of his characteristics.
The Donald knew this was coming, knew it was strictly a bargain chip and if he was wholly adverse to it both he and Musk would be shrieking bloody murder from the church tower.
Biden's move on missiles for Ukraine angers Trump allies - BBC News
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdrdmkxy7xmo
"For months I have called on President Biden to remove these restrictions," Representative Michael R. Turner of Ohio, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, said in a statement. "President Biden should have listened to President Zelensky's pleas much earlier."
-NYT 11/17/24