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A Taycan is the getaway car in Den of Thieves: Pantera



Coolest sound for an EV I have heard. O'Shea Jackson, Jr. looks like a clone of his Pops.
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bearister said:

A Taycan is the getaway car in Den of Thieves: Pantera



Coolest sound for an EV I have heard. O'Shea Jackson, Jr. looks like a clone of his Pops.
I believe the producers told the casting director "Get me someone like O'Shea Jackson."
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concordtom said:

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Silver lining: Porsche may switch Taycan production to the US.



Honest question.
Won't that take 2 years to execute?

I will jump in here to say that demand for a high-end EV like the Taycan has been slipping.

Porsche shows that sales of the Taycan were down 37% year over year (2024 vs2023) and it's hard to fathom investing in production of this car here in the U.S. for such a niche vehicle in its line-up when Porsche enjoys much higher cost efficiencies making this vehicle in Germany.

Porsche's biggest seller by far is the Macan, followed by the Cayenne.
25,180 and 22,432 vehicles respectively.

As some may be aware, Porsche just recently introduced the EV Macan here in the states.
But there is a big price difference between the EV and the gas-powered version.
Range is roughly 300 miles.


The gas powered Macan has been a massive seller in the Chinese market.
But China's continued weak economy and increased competition is becoming problematic for Porsche there.

Could they make some Taycan's at their existing Chatanooga plant that makes the ID.4 for North America?
Sure.

That would most likely be the path.
But again, why invest a ton of capital in the U.S. towards production of a niche sportscar type vehicle?

The base Taycan starts at $100,000.

The Taycan 4S from $120,000. The Taycan GTS $149,000.
The Taycan Tubro from $175,000 and the Taycan Turbo S from $210,000.

Porsche reports U.S. retail sales record in 2024 - Porsche Newsroom USA
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So if this happens in a Macan would it properly be called "Macan bacon?"*


* I suppose only if you mispronounce it.
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I've been to Macon and boy, was I bakin'.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

I've been to Macon and boy, was I bakin'.



By the time I started Cal in Fall '72, I didn't know anyone that had a At Fillmore East album that had any grooves left on it…..and at the time, I'm not even sure I knew that Skydog had died a year back….or that Berry had just died.
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bearister said:

"I also think that the J6 committee members are criminals who would have been charged if not for autopen pardons."

Which laws do you allege they broke and what are the facts supporting the charges? I personally hope their pardons are set aside. I will look very forward to the criminal prosecutions and the subsequent malicious prosecution actions and disbarment of the prosecutors that exceed the flex of prosecutorial immunity in their handling of the cases.

Once again, this is driven by the same bullsh@it that has fueled every Republican Senate and Congressional Investigation that costs the tax payers millions and always ends up being a bridge to nowhere.

"For the tourists who were invited into the capitol building and left when asked to, I don't think they should have been charged with multi-year jail sentences on bogus charges."
Could you provide a link to this. This is news to me.
Perjury. Withholding evidence. Probably many others but I'm not a lawyer. As for paragraph 3, this is a joke, right? The classified docs case, the business records case, the countless impeachment proceedings and many others were bad enough but Russia, Russia, Russia is the granddaddy of the them all. Congrats!

As for the tourists, I don't typically save political clips so I had to look it up on grok.
https://x.com/i/grok/share/GXUtp0pbjDVbqX6puybzQ1aHn

If you read people like Julie Kelly, it wouldn't be news to you.
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bearister said:


So if this happens in a Macan would it properly be called "Macan bacon?"*


* I suppose only if you mispronounce it.

Greatest bumper sticker ever... and I think most of you know what I'm talkin' about.
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Zippergate said:


If you read people like Julie Kelly, it wouldn't be news to you.


"Kelly has a long history of promoting unhinged conspiracy theories and election denial, including baseless accusations smearing police officers who were attacked on January 6, 2021.

Kelly accused former D.C. police officer Michael Fanone, who suffered a heart attack after a rioter attacked him with a stun gun, of instead being a "crisis actor."

Kelly has falsely claimed that a majority of Americans "don't think that Joe Biden legitimately won the election in 2020," and that investigations of January 6 are a means to "silence political dissent."

Kelly claimed that the left would "round up every single American who voted for Donald Trump" if they could.

Kelly has accused the FBI of secretly being behind the explosives left near the Democratic and Republican National Committee headquarters the night before January 6, 2021, which she called "this pipe bomb hoax," further adding, "It doesn't defy reality to think that this agency was deeply involved in creating all of these narratives about January 6."

During her speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference in February 2022, Kelly accused President Joe Biden of presiding over a dictatorial regime and acting worse than Russian President Vladimir Putin in the prosecution of January 6 defendants.

In an interview with former Trump adviser and January 6 provocateur Steve Bannon, Kelly claimed: "January 6, 2021, was probably the biggest instance of police brutality that this country has seen since the Civil Rights Movement."

During the same interview, Kelly suggested that police officers who took their own lives after serving at the Capitol on January 6 did so out of shame at the violence committed against Trump supporters."

https://www.mediamatters.org/julie-kelly/conspiracy-theorist-julie-kelly-claims-unsealed-trump-filing-criminalizing-any


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and Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK.
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Zippergate said:

and Lee Harvey Oswald shot JFK.

If only it was that easy to resurrect your go to source.
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Kelly is an absolute disgrace, a typical MAGAt.

VOTE BLUE

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DiabloWags
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Musk just spent $25 million in Wisconsin trying to "buy" a State Supreme Court seat in a swing state and Lost.

And the Maggots whine and cry about Soros.

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Julie Kelly has covered these stories but they are covered by others as well. There is plenty of corroborating evidence. But we're not really interested in that if it contradicts our world view are we?
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DiabloWags said:

Musk just spent $25 million in Wisconsin trying to "buy" a State Supreme Court seat in a swing state and Lost.
Wasn't even close. The liberal candidate won by 10 points.

Republicans also held two House seats in Florida, but these are extremely red districts (like 30 points more Republican than the average), and the margin was only about +14 in each. I would expect a lot of this kind of Democratic overperformance through the midterms.
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Zippergate said:

Julie Kelly has covered these stories but they are covered by others as well. There is plenty of corroborating evidence. But we're not really interested in that if it contradicts our world view are we?
Then quote your other "more reliable" sources. Julie Kelly stinks worse than last year's unrefrigerated Limburger cheese.
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Zippergate said:

Julie Kelly has covered these stories but they are covered by others as well. There is plenty of corroborating evidence. But we're not really interested in that if it contradicts our world view are we?

If Julie Kelly corroborates your world view, you have issues. Hey look, I am not a fan of most Progressive policies either, but it doesn't mean I have to go bat sh@it crazy.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

I've been to Macon and boy, was I bakin'.
and, man, it was so bad you weren't fakin'.

Zippergate
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Kelly is a reporter. She reports on things. Since your main sources of news appear to be thinly veiled purveyors of editorial. disinformation and propaganda, I can see why you might be confused. Not a fan of some progressive ideas? Really? The next time you criticize anyone on the left here, progressive or otherwise, will be your first. I have no idea what your final comment means.
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Zippergate said:

Kelly is a reporter. She reports on things. Since your main sources of news appear to be thinly veiled purveyors of editorial. disinformation and propaganda, I can see why you might be confused. Not a fan of some progressive ideas? Really? The next time you criticize anyone on the left here, progressive or otherwise, will be your first. I have no idea what your final comment means.
Nah, she's a phony liar. Get it straight

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Zippergate said:

Not a fan of some progressive ideas? Really? The next time you criticize anyone on the left here, progressive or otherwise, will be your first…..


I think you just whiffed again.

https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/114960
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bearister said:

Zippergate said:

Not a fan of some progressive ideas? Really? The next time you criticize anyone on the left here, progressive or otherwise, will be your first…..


I think you just whiffed again.

https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/114960
ROFL. A post from almost two years ago where you merely quoted a news story about Oakland crime?
Thanks for proving my point.
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Zippergate said:

bearister said:

Zippergate said:

Not a fan of some progressive ideas? Really? The next time you criticize anyone on the left here, progressive or otherwise, will be your first…..


I think you just whiffed again.

https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/114960
ROFL. A post from almost two years ago where you merely quoted a news story about Oakland crime?
Thanks for proving my point.


You need get off the floor and start at the end of the thread and work back on the details of the Madam DA Pam Price Saga.
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Zippergate said:

bearister said:

Zippergate said:

Not a fan of some progressive ideas? Really? The next time you criticize anyone on the left here, progressive or otherwise, will be your first…..


I think you just whiffed again.

https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/114960
ROFL. A post from almost two years ago where you merely quoted a news story about Oakland crime?
Thanks for proving my point.

For the record, bearister is "pragmatic center-left".

Here's a suggestion: How about if we got this Julie Kelly person, teamed her up with Laura Loomer and had them tag-team wrestle against two of the more attractive personalities from MSNBC (no idea who... i don't watch it).

It would be in a cage... with mud. I might watch that, but not if it were pay-per-view.
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It's probably time to leave California if this is what it comes down to.
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Good for Elon for stimulating the economy.
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bear2034 said:


It's probably time to leave California if this is what it comes down to.
probably time to ditch the Cybertruck

To hell with MAGAts

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bear2034
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Libs dumb enough to key Teslas become internet sensations. Don't they know by now the cars come equipped with cameras?
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Like the rest of the car most
Of them don't work well anyway.

To hell with MAGAts.

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The used truck market agrees that Cybertrucks are garbage.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/this-gu2y-bought-a-tesla-cybertruck-for-102000-drove-2600-miles-sold-for-82000-249620.html
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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/elon-musk-robotaxi-could-final-134843675.html

Very good review of Tesla's stated future corporate direction.
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chazzed said:

The used truck market agrees that Cybertrucks are garbage.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/this-gu2y-bought-a-tesla-cybertruck-for-102000-drove-2600-miles-sold-for-82000-249620.html


Why the hell would anyone pay 82k for one of those things? They still have to pay more to charge it, register it, insurance…. That's expensive A to B.
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Electricity is cheaper than gas, fortunately.
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The son of former NBA star Gilbert Arenas has been placed into an induced coma after a car crash left his Tesla 'mangled' on the side of the road, according to multiple reports.

https://mol.im/a/14645161

*Probably another Beast Mode accident. The Cybertruck's "Beast Mode" is a performance-focused drive mode that unlocks the truck's maximum acceleration, allowing it to reach 60 mph in 2.6 seconds (It weighs 3 tons).



"The only thing more fun than Beast Mode is one of these flamethrowers for the Bros I used to sell."
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