concordtom said:

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oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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I can't imagine what Oski just said after showing everyone how big a of a "cheerleader" he is.

He has no clue how the stock market works.
Especially in a Bear Market.

I put him on ignore.

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To be clear, I do know how the stock market works. It was down -.3% today and is down about 1% today. You were calling down 5% yesterday and you were wrong, but the drop has been leveling. There is a lot of uncertainty right now about the Tarriffs. As I stated before, Trump is going to heavy on them which is spooking the market. On the flip side, you sound like a day trading teenager shorting with their allowance and trying to freak everyone out.

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Here's the way to play this game, since day to day moves can be fickle.

Does the S&P go
UP 10%
or
DOWN 10%
first?


What do you say?

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Down

Eventually China will capitulate in a face saving way. That will be one marker for when we get a real recovery.

tequila4kapp said:

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concordtom said:

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oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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I can't imagine what Oski just said after showing everyone how big a of a "cheerleader" he is.

He has no clue how the stock market works.
Especially in a Bear Market.

I put him on ignore.

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To be clear, I do know how the stock market works. It was down -.3% today and is down about 1% today. You were calling down 5% yesterday and you were wrong, but the drop has been leveling. There is a lot of uncertainty right now about the Tarriffs. As I stated before, Trump is going to heavy on them which is spooking the market. On the flip side, you sound like a day trading teenager shorting with their allowance and trying to freak everyone out.

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Here's the way to play this game, since day to day moves can be fickle.

Does the S&P go
UP 10%
or
DOWN 10%
first?


What do you say?

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Down

Eventually China will capitulate in a face saving way. That will be one marker for when we get a real recovery.

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We will see how this plays out but I think that's laughable for you to think China is going to capitulate to Trump at this point. And I think the fact that you say that represents the common misplaced attitude at this point.








The differing measures compared:


PPP stands for **Purchasing Power Parity**, and it's a way to measure the relative wealth of nations by accounting for **differences in the cost of living and inflation** between countries.


Example:

Let's say a haircut costs:
- $50 in New York
- $10 in Mumbai

If both countries report the same number of haircuts in their GDP, nominal GDP makes the U.S. economy look larger because it uses U.S. prices. But PPP adjusts for that difference, giving India more economic weight based on what goods actually cost locally.

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### **Why Use PPP?**
- It's **fairer** when comparing **standard of living** across countries.
- It avoids distortions from **exchange rate fluctuations**.
- It's useful for comparing **developing vs developed** economies.

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### **Bottom Line:**
- **GDP (nominal)** = how rich a country is in global money terms.
- **GDP (PPP)** = how much actual stuff people can buy within their country.

As I warned earlier, the Treasury market is crashing. The yield on the 10-year just hit 4.5%, and the yield on the 30-year just hit 5%. Without an emergency rate cut tomorrow morning and the announcement of a massive QE program, tomorrow could be a 1987-style stock market crash.

— Peter Schiff (@PeterSchiff) April 9, 2025

harebear said:

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As I warned earlier, the Treasury market is crashing. The yield on the 10-year just hit 4.5%, and the yield on the 30-year just hit 5%. Without an emergency rate cut tomorrow morning and the announcement of a massive QE program, tomorrow could be a 1987-style stock market crash.

— Peter Schiff (@PeterSchiff) April 9, 2025

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And as he supported the smoot hawley poop throwing orange gaboon earlier im going to take…
"Things republicans might say in a last ditch effort to try to deflect blame for causing yet another market crash due to dog**** antiquated self enriching protectionist policies for a 1000 Alex"

If you don't cut the rates?
Lmfao
Spoken like a true maga cock riding *******

But not the syphilis infected silver spoon fed orange **** bag and his 19th century protectionism about to get clown stomped by 21st century interposition protectionism.
Not that.
The rates!
And maybe dick pics on Hunter Biden's laptop…
But not Trump…nooooo…definitely not anything to do with that ****ing fat orange benedict.

Does anyone know that expression "like a thief in the night"?

Does anyone remember when the S&P was tanking in 2008, and it wasn't initially well understood why?
But some people knew.

In this case, 50% know and the other 50% simply can't. Like the fat person who keeps eating. Or the smoker. Or the drinker.

tequila4kapp said:

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concordtom said:

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oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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I can't imagine what Oski just said after showing everyone how big a of a "cheerleader" he is.

He has no clue how the stock market works.
Especially in a Bear Market.

I put him on ignore.

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To be clear, I do know how the stock market works. It was down -.3% today and is down about 1% today. You were calling down 5% yesterday and you were wrong, but the drop has been leveling. There is a lot of uncertainty right now about the Tarriffs. As I stated before, Trump is going to heavy on them which is spooking the market. On the flip side, you sound like a day trading teenager shorting with their allowance and trying to freak everyone out.

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Here's the way to play this game, since day to day moves can be fickle.

Does the S&P go
UP 10%
or
DOWN 10%
first?


What do you say?

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Down

Eventually China will capitulate in a face saving way. That will be one marker for when we get a real recovery.

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Morning news update:

Quote:

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U.S. stock futures were down sharply again on Wednesday after China announced retaliatory tariffs on U.S. goods in the latest escalation of global trade tensions.

Dow Jones Industrial Average futures dropped 790 points, or 2.1%. S&P 500 futures slid 1.8%, and Nasdaq-100 futures declined 1.5%.

China announced it will impose an 84% levy on U.S. goods starting Thursday. This comes after U.S. tariffs of 104% on Chinese imports took effect shortly after midnight.

Stock futures extended their losses Wednesday morning after Scott Bessent stated the Chinese government doesn't "want to come and negotiate."

"They are the worst offenders in the international trading system. ... I can tell you that this escalation is a loser for them," Bessent told Fox Business News.

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Uh, you were saying China would capitulate?

As for his saying China is the worst offender…. That's just playing politics to a base of emotional voters. Have you ever listened to Joan Baez sing Bob Dylan's song "with God on our side"? Righteousness will get the Trump administration nowhere on this economic trade issue.

harebear said:

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As I warned earlier, the Treasury market is crashing. The yield on the 10-year just hit 4.5%, and the yield on the 30-year just hit 5%. Without an emergency rate cut tomorrow morning and the announcement of a massive QE program, tomorrow could be a 1987-style stock market crash.

— Peter Schiff (@PeterSchiff) April 9, 2025

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Yup, as I posted yesterday.
Yields on the 10 years are surging.
Currently 4.435

The Fed is literally trapped in a "box" given these inflationary tariffs.

There won't be any rate cuts.
Neel Kashkari said as much this morning.

concordtom said:

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If the S&P closes below 4915, that's 20% off the high of 6144, and will officially mark the close of the Joe Biden BULL market and the start of the Donald Trump BEAR market.

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The good news is that it is at 5050 despite folks here saying the market collapsed early last week when it was down less than 10%.

They will capitulate. They are the worst offender. They aren't accustomed to someone (finally) fighting back

tequila4kapp said:

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They will capitulate. They are the worst offender. They aren't accustomed to someone (finally) fighting back

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Childhood heroes are important in shaping our image of the world. Themes acquired in our youths sink in to the subconscious and shape our perspectives.












And even Atlas is an American. Remember how they all agreed to hide out in Colorado?

SO MUCH FOR TRUMP PLAYING 3D CHESS.

MAGA for MORONS.

Private Credit is a $2 Trillion Dollar market that arose due to the Banking industry seeing tighter regulations.

Yields are rising.
This obviously impacts the housing market among other markets.

Look for something to blow up in the private credit (private equity) market first.

Something is gonna "break"

Mark my words.

DiabloWags said:

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SO MUCH FOR TRUMP PLAYING 3D CHESS.

MAGA for MORONS.

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But they've been told it has to get worse before it gets better.

It's just too bad this noble acceptance of self-sacrifice couldn't have come with policies that actually make sense.
I mean, we are $35T in debt - CLEARLY we need to experience some severe AUSTERITY measures.

Trump is just choosing the wrong ones.

"I know what the hell I'm doing"

Look at the box. Trump the Game: "I'm back and you're fired!"

That's a hell of a personal motto: "you're fired".
And of course, they stole Arnold's terminator line.

For all the hate directed at Musk, at least he's built actually useful stuff.
Trump is merely a branding company, and his brand is just marketing of hot air based on debt, unpaid promissory notes, threats, lawsuits, public insults, unfilled product promises.

And now he's playing with the entire country's balance sheet. God help us.

It's all just an ego play. A "game".

Massive 10 Year Treasury Auction occurring now at 1PM EST.

$39 BILLION.

Can't wait to see what the yield and bid to cover ratio is.

NOTE: Looks like it went pretty well, given the rally in stocks at 1:00 PM EST.

Auction Yield: 4.435%

Scott Bessent cancels meeting with House GOP to have "meeting" with Trump.

Trump offering a 90-day pause on reciprocal tariffs.

S&P rallies 200 points in 3 minutes

Trump flinched, couldn't stand firm. Thank goodness.

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Trump flinched, couldn't stand firm. Thank goodness.

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Yeah.
But I fear his other radical moves.

By the way…. Tequila for Kapp said China would capitulate. They did not.

concordtom said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Trump flinched, couldn't stand firm. Thank goodness.

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Yeah.
But I fear his other radical moves.

By the way…. Tequila for Kapp said China would capitulate. They did not.

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It has been like 24 hours. Why do you get to set the deadline?

I don't know if he planned it, but this end result is market manipulation.

Say it with me:
MARKET MANIPULATION pic.twitter.com/8CQlTfKCox

— Susan♀️🇺🇦 (@ifudontlike2bad) April 9, 2025

Oh, too bad..I was thinking that Trump by taxing consumption and reducing the standard of living was the first environmentalist President

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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Trump flinched, couldn't stand firm. Thank goodness.

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Not exactly. Trump juxtaposed treatment of those who didn't retaliate / asked to make a deal vs treatment China. There are reports of a potential trading block to isolate China. Macron / EU supposedly commenting about not letting China dump their cheap products in their markets. TBD.

chazzed said:

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what deal did he get? pic.twitter.com/J69vk665LV

— sam (@sam_d_1995) April 9, 2025

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He apparently proclaimed that all the countries came running to cut a deal with him?

I bet they are thinking "horsehit"!!!