DiabloWags said:

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Does anyone believe that Hegseth is a wartime Secretary of Defense?

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Notice that there is not a "peep" out of our Secretary of Defense or Secretary of State.

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Or Congress, which is the body that determines whether we go to war

dajo9 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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BearNit said:

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Does anyone believe that Hegseth is a wartime Secretary of Defense?

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Notice that there is not a "peep" out of our Secretary of Defense or Secretary of State.

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Or Congress, which is the body that determines whether we go to war

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The War Powers Act hasnt been respected since 1942.

But what does Colonel MacGregor say?

"In an American-Israeli war with Iran, Moscow and Beijing will have escalation dominance, which suggests that Washington risks fighting a war that it is predestined to lose, just as the U.S. fought hopeless wars in Vietnam and Iraq and is losing a proxy war in Ukraine. Historical amnesia exacts a heavy price indeed, particularly when Washington ignores the strategic interests of its rivals."

https://share.google/jscktKlbO4tXkKrFq

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American B-2 stealth bombers with terrifying capabilities 'are on the move' as Iran tensions heat up | Daily Mail Online


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14834511/american-b-2-bombers-iran-tensions.html

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What happened to no more forever wars? If Col. Bone Spur thinks he can bomb his way to negotiations, he is bleeping delusional. Now Iran will race to get a nuclear weapon. Does anyone believe that Hegseth is a wartime Secretary of Defense?

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Wait, bombing Iranian nuclear facilities is now entering a forever war? Newsbreak ... Iran was already racing to get a nuclear weapon. They were violating their no nuke agreements, they just ignored a deadline, and they were bombed. This wasn't an Obama thin red line that ultimately leads to an actual forever war (see Ukraine). This was an actual thin red line.c

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Trump tore up the JCPOA so he could renegotiate a new nuclear deal with his name on it. He has been saber rattling since the first week of his first administration in 2016 and that was 9 Almost 10 years ago. We've also been dealing with Iran over the question of nuclear weapons since I can remember some 30 to 40 years. so yes, this has been a forever war against Iran and its proxies in Lebanon, Africa, Iraq, Afghanistan, and other locations. If we are really about getting bad actors to stop nuclear proliferation, the violation of a nuclear
an agreement, and threatening countries with nuclear weapons, then we should start with Russia who has consistently threatened Ukraine and the EU which contains some of our closet allies throughout history. Now Iran who is but a month away from developing a bomb will do everything they can to secure a nuclear weapon to keep from getting bombed. Bombing is not going to prevent them from obtaining a bomb but it will put targets on US servicemen in the area and personnel in embassies around the world.

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oski003 said:

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bearister said:

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American B-2 stealth bombers with terrifying capabilities 'are on the move' as Iran tensions heat up | Daily Mail Online


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14834511/american-b-2-bombers-iran-tensions.html

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What happened to no more forever wars? If Col. Bone Spur thinks he can bomb his way to negotiations, he is bleeping delusional. Now Iran will race to get a nuclear weapon. Does anyone believe that Hegseth is a wartime Secretary of Defense?

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Wait, bombing Iranian nuclear facilities is now entering a forever war? Newsbreak ... Iran was already racing to get a nuclear weapon. They were violating their no nuke agreements, they just ignored a deadline, and they were bombed. This wasn't an Obama thin red line that ultimately leads to an actual forever war (see Ukraine). This was an actual thin red line.c

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Trump tore up the JCPOA so he could renegotiate a new nuclear deal with his name on it. He has been saber rattling since the first week of his first administration in 2016 and that was 9 Almost 10 years ago. We've also been dealing with Iran over the question of nuclear weapons since I can remember some 30 to 40 years. so yes, this has been a forever war against Iran and its proxies in Lebanon, Africa, Iraq, Afghanistan, and other locations. If we are really about getting bad actors to stop nuclear proliferation, the violation of a nuclear
an agreement, and threatening countries with nuclear weapons, then we should start with Russia who has consistently threatened Ukraine and the EU which contains some of our closet allies throughout history. Now Iran who is but a month away from developing a bomb will do everything they can to secure a nuclear weapon to keep from getting bombed. Bombing is not going to prevent them from obtaining a bomb but it will put targets on US servicemen in the area and personnel in embassies around the world.

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Okay, I see. You think we were already in a forever war. Does this mean you wanted to continue the forever war status quo? Or just keep the status quo plus Iran having nuclear weapons, which you say they were a month away from having?

oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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OSKI THE WAR HAWK

JUST ANOTHER NEOCON.

MAGA!

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Hardly, but I certainly am not a demented narrow-minded grumpy old man.

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Another cool story.

DiabloWags said:

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BearNit said:

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Does anyone believe that Hegseth is a wartime Secretary of Defense?

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Notice that there is not a "peep" out of our Secretary of Defense or Secretary of State.

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pic.twitter.com/6518JL5ZhQ

— Pete Hegseth (@PeteHegseth) June 21, 2025

That guy, Khamenei. What an idiot!

Trump’s Iran attack catches world off-guard after fakeouts with B-2 flights and ‘two weeks’ timeframe https://t.co/nqKqgGpY6d pic.twitter.com/BfiXz42qVS

— New York Post (@nypost) June 22, 2025

chazzed said:

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I see the Russian propagandist is in overdrive at this moment.

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American propaganda is simply the best pic.twitter.com/FbT4jzmCJu

— KanekoaTheGreat (@KanekoaTheGreat) June 22, 2025

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Once again, I was told that Trump was the anti-war candidate.

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This is a step too far. The genocide of Iran's innocent nuclear weapons grade uranium enrichment facilities must stop.

— Konstantin Kisin (@KonstantinKisin) June 22, 2025

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American B-2 stealth bombers with terrifying capabilities 'are on the move' as Iran tensions heat up | Daily Mail Online


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14834511/american-b-2-bombers-iran-tensions.html

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What happened to no more forever wars? If Col. Bone Spur thinks he can bomb his way to negotiations, he is bleeping delusional. Now Iran will race to get a nuclear weapon. Does anyone believe that Hegseth is a wartime Secretary of Defense?

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Wait, bombing Iranian nuclear facilities is now entering a forever war? Newsbreak ... Iran was already racing to get a nuclear weapon. They were violating their no nuke agreements, they just ignored a deadline, and they were bombed. This wasn't an Obama thin red line that ultimately leads to an actual forever war (see Ukraine). This was an actual thin red line.c

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Trump tore up the JCPOA so he could renegotiate a new nuclear deal with his name on it. He has been saber rattling since the first week of his first administration in 2016 and that was 9 Almost 10 years ago. We've also been dealing with Iran over the question of nuclear weapons since I can remember some 30 to 40 years. so yes, this has been a forever war against Iran and its proxies in Lebanon, Africa, Iraq, Afghanistan, and other locations. If we are really about getting bad actors to stop nuclear proliferation, the violation of a nuclear
an agreement, and threatening countries with nuclear weapons, then we should start with Russia who has consistently threatened Ukraine and the EU which contains some of our closet allies throughout history. Now Iran who is but a month away from developing a bomb will do everything they can to secure a nuclear weapon to keep from getting bombed. Bombing is not going to prevent them from obtaining a bomb but it will put targets on US servicemen in the area and personnel in embassies around the world.

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Okay, I see. You think we were already in a forever war. Does this mean you wanted to continue the forever war status quo? Or just keep the status quo plus Iran having nuclear weapons, which you say they were a month away from having?

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No I don't want the status quo but if you are going to negotiate then negotiate because all you are doing at this point is trying to stop a country who has enriched uranium, ballistic misses, and nuclear scientist all located in underground bunkers who were 4 weeks away from building approximately 10 nuclear bombs. The likelihood of that is small. We had an agreement as imperfect as it was, it allowed for inspections. Now we have no access. Now we will spend billions to try to get Iran to give up their stockpile of enriched uranium.Who are they going to give it to, Russia or North Korea? Are we trying to kick the can down the road for another 10 years and then deal with the same problem. Do we want regime change? Where are the other middle east countries regarding the action taking place in the Middle East? What does Iran look like the day we stop bombing, who is then in control? Given the size of the deficit, and the increases projected, how much is this costing? There are many questions which have to be asked and answered but the action has been taken. We are now in the find out portion of FAFO.

BearNIt said:

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oski003 said:

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oski003 said:

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bearister said:

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American B-2 stealth bombers with terrifying capabilities 'are on the move' as Iran tensions heat up | Daily Mail Online


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14834511/american-b-2-bombers-iran-tensions.html

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What happened to no more forever wars? If Col. Bone Spur thinks he can bomb his way to negotiations, he is bleeping delusional. Now Iran will race to get a nuclear weapon. Does anyone believe that Hegseth is a wartime Secretary of Defense?

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Wait, bombing Iranian nuclear facilities is now entering a forever war? Newsbreak ... Iran was already racing to get a nuclear weapon. They were violating their no nuke agreements, they just ignored a deadline, and they were bombed. This wasn't an Obama thin red line that ultimately leads to an actual forever war (see Ukraine). This was an actual thin red line.c

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Trump tore up the JCPOA so he could renegotiate a new nuclear deal with his name on it. He has been saber rattling since the first week of his first administration in 2016 and that was 9 Almost 10 years ago. We've also been dealing with Iran over the question of nuclear weapons since I can remember some 30 to 40 years. so yes, this has been a forever war against Iran and its proxies in Lebanon, Africa, Iraq, Afghanistan, and other locations. If we are really about getting bad actors to stop nuclear proliferation, the violation of a nuclear
an agreement, and threatening countries with nuclear weapons, then we should start with Russia who has consistently threatened Ukraine and the EU which contains some of our closet allies throughout history. Now Iran who is but a month away from developing a bomb will do everything they can to secure a nuclear weapon to keep from getting bombed. Bombing is not going to prevent them from obtaining a bomb but it will put targets on US servicemen in the area and personnel in embassies around the world.

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Okay, I see. You think we were already in a forever war. Does this mean you wanted to continue the forever war status quo? Or just keep the status quo plus Iran having nuclear weapons, which you say they were a month away from having?

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No I don't want the status quo but if you are going to negotiate then negotiate because all you are doing at this point is trying to stop a country who has enriched uranium, ballistic misses, and nuclear scientist all located in underground bunkers who were 4 weeks away from building approximately 10 nuclear bombs. The likelihood of that is small. We had an agreement as imperfect as it was, it allowed for inspections. Now we have no access. Now we will spend billions to try to get Iran to give up their stockpile of enriched uranium.Who are they going to give it to, Russia or North Korea? Are we trying to kick the can down the road for another 10 years and then deal with the same problem. Do we want regime change? Where are the other middle east countries regarding the action taking place in the Middle East? What does Iran look like the day we stop bombing, who is then in control? Given the size of the deficit, and the increases projected, how much is this costing? There are many questions which have to be asked and answered but the action has been taken. We are now in the find out portion of FAFO.

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On April 12, 2025, the United States and Iran began a series of negotiations aimed at reaching a nuclear peace agreement,[1][2][3] following a letter from President Donald Trump to Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei.[4] The letter set a two-month (60 day)[5] deadline for Iran to reach an agreement.[6] The failed negotiations precede an Israeli attack on Iran, which escalated into a full-scale war between the two countries.[7]

The first round of high level-meetings was held in Oman on April 12, 2025, led by U.S. Special Envoy Steve Witkoff and Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi.[8][9] At the time, both the Iranian Foreign Minister and the White House said that the discussions held were described as being constructive.[8]The second round of Omani-mediated talks took place in Rome on April 19, 2025, again with indirect discussions between Witkoff and Araghchi.[10] This was followed by a third high-level round in Muscat around a week later,[11] and an expert-level meeting to develop a framework for a possible nuclear agreement,[12] led by Michael Anton for the U.S. and by Majid Takht-Ravanchi for Iran.[13][14]

The US military has been building up its presence in the Middle East as the threat of war escalates.[15] US bases throughout the region accommodate approximately 50,000 American troops.[16][17] As part of the peace proposals, Iran offered to build at least 19 additional reactors, suggesting that contracts for these projects could help revive the struggling U.S. nuclear industry.[18][19] Araghchi's planned speech announcing this, however, was cancelled.[19][20]

On May 27, Trump claimed both sides were close to finalizing the talks, with strong inspections because "I don't trust anybody".[21] Araghchi stated he was unsure whether a deal was imminent, while Khamenei advisor Shamkhani said Trump's desired control over the Iranian nuclear program was a "fantasy".[22][23][24][25] Israel has reportedly threatened to preemptively attack Iranian nuclear installations with potential forewarning.[26][27] On May 31, the IAEA reported that Iran had amassed a record amount of military-grade enriched uranium.[28]

On June 11, US embassies in Iraq and other Arab states began to evacuate personnel in response to Iranian threats on American bases.[29][30][31][32][33] The Houthis threatened retaliation against the United States should an attack be launched on Iran.[34][35] President Trump was reportedly provided a range of options for an attack on Iran by CENTCOM.[36] The UK issued a threat advisory for ships in the Persian Gulf.[37] The IAEA declared Iran in breach of its non-proliferation obligations on June 12.[38]

The following day, Israel launched large-scale attacks on Iran, which are ongoing. Israel's attacks targeted Iran's top military leaders, nuclear scientists, and politician Ali Shamkhani, who had been overseeing the negotiations with the United States.[39][40][41] Following the attacks, Iran pulled out and suspended nuclear talks indefinitely.[42]

Iran then rejected US talks after Trump gave a two-week deadline to allow for negotiations.

dajo9 said:

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MAGA is ISRAEL FIRST

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MAGA is dumbasses first in line

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JD Vance is right, whether you agree or disagree, Trump has been consistent with his view on Iran not obtaining a nuclear weapon.

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Vance only has to post this because he knows Trump's own fans are angry about the possibility of another foreign war.

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Everyone is posting about Iran on X right now.

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Huge amount of botting going on right now to drive opinion both ways, tbh I'd say avoid using X right now for anything related to Iran/Israel.

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tell that to our buddy movie. He's an X reposting machine.