DiabloWags said:

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Welcome to Dumberica.
Where people are easily conned.

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How much does the Wall Street Journal charge you to read their content?

DaddyLegend said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Welcome to Dumberica.
Where people are easily conned.

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How much does the Wall Street Journal charge you to read their content?

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Maybe Wags can provide everyone here with the free version of this article.

By squeezing the Strait of Hormuz, both the U.S. and Iran expected to outlast their foe, believing time would work in their favor. Now, it looks like the trend is moving against Tehran. https://t.co/nJQJxoDqyC

— The Wall Street Journal (@WSJ) September 5, 2026

TLDR; Iran is losing.

Sure. Not the conclusions you were projecting.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/time-is-no-longer-on-irans-side-in-the-battle-of-the-blockades-e47b657d?st=wtSdwG

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Sure. Not the conclusions you were projecting.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/time-is-no-longer-on-irans-side-in-the-battle-of-the-blockades-e47b657d?st=wtSdwG

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Absolutely the conclusion I was projecting. You're missing the point. The fact the WSJ even published an article with this title would have been blasphemous even a month ago.

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cal83dls79 said:

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Sure. Not the conclusions you were projecting.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/time-is-no-longer-on-irans-side-in-the-battle-of-the-blockades-e47b657d?st=wtSdwG

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Absolutely the conclusion I was projecting. You're missing the point. The fact the WSJ even published an article with this title would have been blasphemous even a month ago.

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Great article. I thank you and Cal83 for sharing. I appreciate this as a valid counter of the repeated myopic insistence that Iran must be somehow winning because the price of oil is high. Thank you very much for the truth. It is sad how folks spam negativity because they hate the administration. The administration sucks in many ways but that doesn't mean Iran somehow has control of the Strait or whatever the next made up thing is going to be.

No regime change.
No unconditional surrender.
No control of Iran's plutonium.
Highest diesel fuel prices on record.
Yield on 10 Year Treasury Bonds highest in nearly 3 years.

SO MUCH WINNING!

DiabloWags said:

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No regime change.
No unconditional surrender.
No control of Iran's plutonium.
Highest diesel fuel prices on record.
Yield on 10 Year Treasury Bonds highest in nearly 3 years.

SO MUCH WINNING!

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This is the truth. It's sad but this is how our country is led.

Fast food and failure

VOTE BLUE AND VOTE GAVIN

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cal83dls79 said:

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Sure. Not the conclusions you were projecting.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/time-is-no-longer-on-irans-side-in-the-battle-of-the-blockades-e47b657d?st=wtSdwG

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Absolutely the conclusion I was projecting. You're missing the point. The fact the WSJ even published an article with this title would have been blasphemous even a month ago.

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cherry pck all of the "good" stuff you want, there are PLENTY of caveats and really bad outcomes that are still very much on the table laid out in this piece. What it fails to mention what the mission was, the cost of the mission and the aftermath. Basically, "hey, our screw up isn't bad bad as some might say it is" is your rally cry this point…. which is laughable and sad.

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Sure. Not the conclusions you were projecting.

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/time-is-no-longer-on-irans-side-in-the-battle-of-the-blockades-e47b657d?st=wtSdwG

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Absolutely the conclusion I was projecting. You're missing the point. The fact the WSJ even published an article with this title would have been blasphemous even a month ago.

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cherry pck all of the "good" stuff you want, there are PLENTY of caveats and really bad outcomes that are still very much on the table laid out in this piece. What it fails to mention what the mission was, the cost of the mission and the aftermath. Basically, "hey, our screw up isn't bad bad as some might say it is" is your rally cry this point…. which is laughable and sad.

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Yeah, it's telling that all these guys want to talk about is how the Hormuz Strait is not as bad as it was when Iran first closed it down. Not about how we as a nation are actually better off now than when the war started, or how we will be when it ends. Because there isn't really a good answer for that.

The goal posts have been repeatedly moved by Trump.
But they never hold him accountable.

They're too busy cheerleading the "it's not that bad" narrative while diesel prices hit RECORD HIGHS and the refining industry recorded $24.7 billion in profits in Q2, nearly 5x as much as a year earlier.

Oil tankers are "flowing freely" in the Strait.
But Brent crude oil is $96 a barrel.

The delusion is palpable.
The delusion is real.

We need real accountability and our leadership in the White House NEVER provides it.

Vote BLUE and VOTE GAvin

I must have missed this from our Energy Secretary...

Didn't Trump say we were real close to a deal 3 months ago?




US energy secretary Wright says Iran nuclear deal may never happen

What a mess

DiabloWags said:

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I must have missed this from our Energy Secretary...
Didn't Trump say we were real close to a deal 3 months ago?

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dunno why anyone listens to that *** damned ****** funk**

Stupid is the appropriate word. And anyone who agrees with him and his ilk.

F DJT

I guess we never really OBLITERATED Iran's nuclear capability last year as Trump and Hegseth claimed.

Why do they LIE so much to the American people?





'Surge in construction' at suspected Iranian nuclear site, analysts say, as US considers ways to strike deep underground

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Great article. I thank you and Cal83 for sharing. I appreciate this as a valid counter of the repeated myopic insistence that Iran must be somehow winning because the price of oil is high. Thank you very much for the truth. It is sad how folks spam negativity because they hate the administration. The administration sucks in many ways but that doesn't mean Iran somehow has control of the Strait or whatever the next made up thing is going to be.

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As one of Trump's biggest defenders, I'm glad you finally see how bad this Administration is.

It's a shame that so many have fallen for its propaganda . . .
like when Trump said we have "TOTAL CONTROL" of the Strait back on August 12th.

Brent Crude is + $15 since that statement.
I would suggest that it would not be trading where it is if we had "TOTAL CONTROL" of the Strait.

DiabloWags said:

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Great article. I thank you and Cal83 for sharing. I appreciate this as a valid counter of the repeated myopic insistence that Iran must be somehow winning because the price of oil is high. Thank you very much for the truth. It is sad how folks spam negativity because they hate the administration. The administration sucks in many ways but that doesn't mean Iran somehow has control of the Strait or whatever the next made up thing is going to be.

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As one of Trump's biggest defenders, I'm glad you finally see how bad this Administration is.

It's a shame that so many have fallen for its propaganda . . .
like when Trump said we have "TOTAL CONTROL" of the Strait back on August 26th.

Brent Crude is + $15 since that statement.
I would suggest that it would not be trading where it is if we had "TOTAL CONTROL" of the Strait.

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Yes, the administration sucks in many ways. It also sucks that TDS folks get duped over and over again by liberal bubbles and criticize everything out government does because they hate Trump so much.

Shameful.

Is this your way of admitting that Trump was WRONG about having "TOTAL CONTROL" of the Strait?
By talking about liberal bubbles?

About a week ago, you posted how 40 tankers had traveled thru the Straight with 18 million barrels of crude in one day.
This came out of two unnamed officials of the Administration.

Why would you believe them?

The oil markets certainly don't.

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Is this your way of admitting that Trump was WRONG about having "TOTAL CONTROL" of the Strait?
By talking about liberal bubbles?

About a week ago, you posted how 40 tankers had traveled thru the Straight with 18 million barrels of crude in one day.
This came out of two unnamed officials of the Administration.

Why would you believe them?

The oil markets certainly don't.

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The US does not have total control over the Strait, and I never said they did. I don't have to admit anything. Thanks!

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The USS Abraham Lincoln has taken port in Thailand.
Laem Chabang, Thailand.

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Thailand issues prostitution warning as USS Abraham Lincoln docks in tourist town after 200 days at sea | The Independent https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/uss-abraham-lincoln-pattaya-prostitution-thailand-b3042016.html

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Boosting the global economy.

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LOL

Finally a happy ending https://t.co/wpFXovhbwy

— Sammy Obeid (@SammyObeid) August 26, 2026

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YUP.
SURE SOUNDS LIKE THE STRAIT IS "OPEN" AGAIN.

MAGA!




Hormuz Shipping Slumps as U.S.-Iran Strikes Rattle Oil Markets

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The US military escorted 40 commercial vessels carrying 18 million barrels of oil through the Strait of Hormuz today.

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Source - trust me bro.

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Sources for the haters below. Please try put away your bias and read them with an open mind. Tanker trackers is only good for a minimum baseline.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/30/politics/iran-losing-leverage-hormuz-mcgurk

https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/02/politics/latest-us-strikes-against-iran-marked-a-shift-in-strategy

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FYI, this is some common sense info to counter the anti-Trump propaganda that we get spammed with on a daily basis.

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Speaking of common sense . . .

IF large amounts of crude oil are once again flowing through the Strait of Hormuz as you claim, then why is Brent Crude Oil up $12.00 since August 26th?

Can you explain this?

Thanks.

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Speaking of common sense . . .

For those who are unaware, it's more about reliability of that flow than the current output. A week or two of consistently high numbers will yield a drop in oil prices.

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Markets are "discounting" machines.
The Brent November and December Futures Contracts aren't backing up your claim.
In fact, they are reflecting the opposite.

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Futures are backing up my claim that oil is starting to flow more and prices will drop.

Are we surrendering soon? Wasn't that supposed to happen already according to you?

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The oil market says that your claim from one week ago is FALSE.
October WTI Futures are up over $12 since your post on September 3rd.

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On a weekly basis, Brent rose 7.1% and WTI was 9.8% higher, set for the highest gains since the week ended July 20.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/oil-set-steepest-weekly-gain-since-mid-july-over-intensifying-us-iran-tensions-2026-09-04/

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July 20 of this year? Yawn.

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Crude Oil is up 9 days in a row.
That hasn't been done before in 3 YEARS.

DiabloWags said:

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YUP.
SURE SOUNDS LIKE THE STRAIT IS "OPEN" AGAIN.

MAGA!




Hormuz Shipping Slumps as U.S.-Iran Strikes Rattle Oil Markets

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The US military escorted 40 commercial vessels carrying 18 million barrels of oil through the Strait of Hormuz today.

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Source - trust me bro.

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Sources for the haters below. Please try put away your bias and read them with an open mind. Tanker trackers is only good for a minimum baseline.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/30/politics/iran-losing-leverage-hormuz-mcgurk

https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/02/politics/latest-us-strikes-against-iran-marked-a-shift-in-strategy

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FYI, this is some common sense info to counter the anti-Trump propaganda that we get spammed with on a daily basis.

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Speaking of common sense . . .

IF large amounts of crude oil are once again flowing through the Strait of Hormuz as you claim, then why is Brent Crude Oil up $12.00 since August 26th?

Can you explain this?

Thanks.

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Speaking of common sense . . .

For those who are unaware, it's more about reliability of that flow than the current output. A week or two of consistently high numbers will yield a drop in oil prices.

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Markets are "discounting" machines.
The Brent November and December Futures Contracts aren't backing up your claim.
In fact, they are reflecting the opposite.

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Futures are backing up my claim that oil is starting to flow more and prices will drop.

Are we surrendering soon? Wasn't that supposed to happen already according to you?

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The oil market says that your claim is FALSE.

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Futures for January are lower now then they were when we had this previous conversation.

It was at $87.80. It is currently at $86.21.

DiabloWags said:

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On a weekly basis, Brent rose 7.1% and WTI was 9.8% higher, set for the highest gains since the week ended July 20.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/oil-set-steepest-weekly-gain-since-mid-july-over-intensifying-us-iran-tensions-2026-09-04/

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July 20 of this year? Yawn.

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Crude Oil is up 9 days in a row.
That hasn't been done before in 3 YEARS.

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8 days to be accurate

ChudBear said:

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YUP.
SURE SOUNDS LIKE THE STRAIT IS "OPEN" AGAIN.

MAGA!




Hormuz Shipping Slumps as U.S.-Iran Strikes Rattle Oil Markets

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The US military escorted 40 commercial vessels carrying 18 million barrels of oil through the Strait of Hormuz today.

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Source - trust me bro.

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Sources for the haters below. Please try put away your bias and read them with an open mind. Tanker trackers is only good for a minimum baseline.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/30/politics/iran-losing-leverage-hormuz-mcgurk

https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/02/politics/latest-us-strikes-against-iran-marked-a-shift-in-strategy

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FYI, this is some common sense info to counter the anti-Trump propaganda that we get spammed with on a daily basis.

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Speaking of common sense . . .

IF large amounts of crude oil are once again flowing through the Strait of Hormuz as you claim, then why is Brent Crude Oil up $12.00 since August 26th?

Can you explain this?

Thanks.

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Speaking of common sense . . .

For those who are unaware, it's more about reliability of that flow than the current output. A week or two of consistently high numbers will yield a drop in oil prices.

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Markets are "discounting" machines.
The Brent November and December Futures Contracts aren't backing up your claim.
In fact, they are reflecting the opposite.

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Futures are backing up my claim that oil is starting to flow more and prices will drop.

Are we surrendering soon? Wasn't that supposed to happen already according to you?

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The oil market says that your claim is FALSE.

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Futures for January are lower now then they were when we had this previous conversation.

It was at $87.80. It is currently at $86.21.

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More Misinformation.



Crude Oil Futures Quotes - CME Group

DiabloWags said:

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oski003 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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YUP.
SURE SOUNDS LIKE THE STRAIT IS "OPEN" AGAIN.

MAGA!




Hormuz Shipping Slumps as U.S.-Iran Strikes Rattle Oil Markets

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The US military escorted 40 commercial vessels carrying 18 million barrels of oil through the Strait of Hormuz today.

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Source - trust me bro.

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Sources for the haters below. Please try put away your bias and read them with an open mind. Tanker trackers is only good for a minimum baseline.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/08/30/politics/iran-losing-leverage-hormuz-mcgurk

https://www.cnn.com/2026/09/02/politics/latest-us-strikes-against-iran-marked-a-shift-in-strategy

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FYI, this is some common sense info to counter the anti-Trump propaganda that we get spammed with on a daily basis.

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Speaking of common sense . . .

IF large amounts of crude oil are once again flowing through the Strait of Hormuz as you claim, then why is Brent Crude Oil up $12.00 since August 26th?

Can you explain this?

Thanks.

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Speaking of common sense . . .

For those who are unaware, it's more about reliability of that flow than the current output. A week or two of consistently high numbers will yield a drop in oil prices.

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Markets are "discounting" machines.
The Brent November and December Futures Contracts aren't backing up your claim.
In fact, they are reflecting the opposite.

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Futures are backing up my claim that oil is starting to flow more and prices will drop.

Are we surrendering soon? Wasn't that supposed to happen already according to you?

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The oil market says that your claim is FALSE.

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Futures for January are lower now then they were when we had this previous conversation.

It was at $87.80. It is currently at $86.21.

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More Misinformation.



Crude Oil Futures Quotes - CME Group

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WTI is traded on the NY Mercantile Exchange which is operated by the CME Group.

Currently trading ABOVE $90 a barrel in the JANUARY 2027 contract in the after-hour session.
This contract is now $2.80 higher than Sept. 3rd

Thanks.



Crude Oil Futures Quotes - CME Group

The Houthis now control the Yemeni side of the Bab al-Mandab Strait.
This is the southern gateway to the Red Sea, and Suez Canal.

This is clearly problematic given that it reduces supplies thru a second major transit corridor.

In a statement Friday, the Houthi armed forces boasted of gains along the coast without mentioning the island, Mokha or the Bab el-Mandeb Strait. They vowed "escalation for escalation" in the confrontation with Saudi Arabia, while declaring that "maritime navigation is safe for all companies except for Saudi vessels."





Houthis take over key port in Yemen, raising threat to Red Sea shipping | AP News

News of this request by the Saudis was first reported by AXIOS







Saudi crown prince sought U.S. military help from Trump with Houthis, sources say

ChudBear said:

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The Houthis now control the Yemeni side of the Bab al-Mandab Strait.
This is the southern gateway to the Red Sea, and Suez Canal.

This is clearly problematic given that it reduces supplies thru a second major transit corridor.

In a statement Friday, the Houthi armed forces boasted of gains along the coast without mentioning the island, Mokha or the Bab el-Mandeb Strait. They vowed "escalation for escalation" in the confrontation with Saudi Arabia, while declaring that "maritime navigation is safe for all companies except for Saudi vessels."





Houthis take over key port in Yemen, raising threat to Red Sea shipping | AP News

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Houthis are in last resort mode without Iran funneling them money

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The fact that the IRGC is still able to successfully coordinate with them speaks volumes.