Soccer Topics: No goalies in the USA

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In reply to OneKeg • 7:55a, 7/21/26
OneKeg said:
To bring it back to the USMNT, I almost never watch MLS, but I think I'm going to record Real Salt Lake vs LAFC this Wed. (7/22, 7:30pm) as I believe it is on FS1. Hopefully Zavier Gozo will play.as really that would be the main reason for me to watch, to check out the next likely young addition to the US national team.

I get free MLS with Apple TV. Best teams to watch are:
1. Real Salt Lake (Gozo)
2. Red Bull New York (Hall and Mehmeti)
3. Philadelphia Union (Sullivan and sometime Jakupovic and maybe Pierre)

This is the first year there has been so much young talent in MLS. It is a mixed blessing.
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In reply to sluggo • 8:10a, 7/21/26
It's just not a likeable team, not just because of their dark tactics and unsportsmanlike conduct, but also because of the blatant favoritism from FIFA, and the over the top glorification of Messi in the mass media.

This is how he is going to be remembered:

" Cucurella was asking him if everything was okay, and Messi went to ask them to send him off.
It's the most dishonorable action I've seen on a soccer field, and it's going to haunt Messi for the rest of his life."

The 2010 Holland team was similarly unlikeable despite having some brilliant players like Van Persie, horrible tactics, violence, which marred their heritage of great football from the Cruijff and Gullit eras that made them a favorite of neutral soccer lovers worldwide. Thankfully they've long moved on since.

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In reply to sluggo • 12:00p, 7/21/26
sluggo said:
Cal88 said:
I agree with his take.

I am going to mark you down as neither liking Messi or this Argentina team.


Good summary on that take:
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In reply to Cal88 • 12:15p, 7/21/26
I was subtly (?) pointing out that you had posted a lot of times on this topic. But I am not policing anyone.
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12:16p, 7/21/26
Messi will just be remembered as one of the best to ever play and a lot of this immediate chatter will fade with time.

Though yes, Argentina played a very ugly game in the Final.
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In reply to sluggo • 12:30p, 7/21/26
sluggo said:
OneKeg said:
To bring it back to the USMNT, I almost never watch MLS, but I think I'm going to record Real Salt Lake vs LAFC this Wed. (7/22, 7:30pm) as I believe it is on FS1. Hopefully Zavier Gozo will play.as really that would be the main reason for me to watch, to check out the next likely young addition to the US national team.

I get free MLS with Apple TV. Best teams to watch are:
1. Real Salt Lake (Gozo)
2. Red Bull New York (Hall and Mehmeti)
3. Philadelphia Union (Sullivan and sometime Jakupovic and maybe Pierre)

This is the first year there has been so much young talent in MLS. It is a mixed blessing.

Thanks, always appreciated sluggo! Likely I will watch no more than a few MLS matches this summer, so I am probably not going to get Apple TV (ok maybe when Severance season 3 comes out next year...). I think I'll just wait until one of these teams is on FS1 (like Real Salt Lake with Gozo tomorrow night) and record it.

Not to say I would be above mooching off those like you who do watch and getting the occasional summary or analysis! =)
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In reply to OneKeg • 12:54p, 7/21/26
OneKeg said:
sluggo said:
OneKeg said:
To bring it back to the USMNT, I almost never watch MLS, but I think I'm going to record Real Salt Lake vs LAFC this Wed. (7/22, 7:30pm) as I believe it is on FS1. Hopefully Zavier Gozo will play.as really that would be the main reason for me to watch, to check out the next likely young addition to the US national team.

I get free MLS with Apple TV. Best teams to watch are:
1. Real Salt Lake (Gozo)
2. Red Bull New York (Hall and Mehmeti)
3. Philadelphia Union (Sullivan and sometime Jakupovic and maybe Pierre)

This is the first year there has been so much young talent in MLS. It is a mixed blessing.

Thanks, always appreciated sluggo! Likely I will watch no more than a few MLS matches this summer, so I am probably not going to get Apple TV (ok maybe when Severance season 3 comes out next year...). I think I'll just wait until one of these teams is on FS1 (like Real Salt Lake with Gozo tomorrow night) and record it.

Not to say I would be above mooching off those like you who do watch and getting the occasional summary or analysis! =)


I mostly watch highlights. Maybe I will watch a little more during the European off-season. I will likely provide updates every once in a while.
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In reply to sluggo • 12:59p, 7/21/26
sluggo said:
I was subtly (?) pointing out that you had posted a lot of times on this topic. But I am not policing anyone.


I think you're being a bit oblivious on the extent of the worldwide outrage at the behavior of the Argentinians and FIFA in this world cup.

This being a soccer thread, the aftermath of the WC is going to be a main subject only 48hrs after the final.
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In reply to Cal88 • 1:02p, 7/21/26
Cal88 said:
sluggo said:
I was subtly (?) pointing out that you had posted a lot of times on this topic. But I am not policing anyone.


I think you're being a bit oblivious on the extent of the worldwide outrage at the behavior of the Argentinians and FIFA in this world cup.

This being a soccer thread, the aftermath of the WC is going to be a main subject only 48hrs after the final.


All in good humor on my side. Post what you want.
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1:36p, 7/21/26
People who are increasing their soccer involvement should know about Fabrizio Romano. He is the Shams/Schefter of professional soccer and announces where everyone is going before they get there. Says Zidane is going to France. I know someone who had a relative in the French delegation to the World Cup who says the same. Cal88 mentioned this earlier.

Also Morgan Rogers going to Chelsea for a crazy price.



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In reply to sluggo • 2:13p, 7/21/26
English players are overpriced in the PL, they tend to be overrated at home and there is also a premium for having English players in a league dominated by "imports".

Zidane is taking over for Deschamps, next month. Barthez is reported to be his GK coach. Funny clip about Zizou I came across recently (context for noobs: Zidane scored twice on headers in the 98 final against Brazil, Roberto Carlos being one of the many mega-stas on that team) :




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In reply to Cal88 • 4:02p, 7/21/26

Cal88, how do you think Zidane will do with Les Bleus? Seems like Deschamps was fairly successful the past several years, despite them getting suffocated by Spain last week (can't win 'em all).
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In reply to Big C • 7:13p, 7/21/26
Big C said:

Cal88, how do you think Zidane will do with Les Bleus? Seems like Deschamps was fairly successful the past several years, despite them getting suffocated by Spain last week (can't win 'em all).


Better than Deschamps, only caveat is that he hasn't coached in a while and maybe not up to date on 2020s tactics. He had a lot of success in his first coaching stint 10 years ago at Real Madrid, and a bit less on his shorter 2nd stint there 5-6 years ago. On the plus side, he knows the Spanish game well and Spain being the chief rival for the Euro and world cup in the next 2-4 years, maybe he can crack that nut.

He has a tough demeanor and a big aura from having been the greatest player in the world at his peak and won't put up with divas on his team. Then again he might ruffle some players feathers, but he has a very deep roster to work with, so hopefully he can put together a team that is at once star-studded and blue collar.

Note that the last 3 French coaches, Laurent Blanc, Deschamps and Zidane were all teammates on the 98 world championship team.
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In reply to Cal88 • 4:46a, 7/22/26
So which players from this powerful squad will be coaches in the future?
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4:49a, 7/22/26
Here's a new wrinkle on the post tournament commentary on this Argentinian squad.

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4:57a, 7/22/26
Lol, back to the Hooliganism.
This guy has provided lots of good commentary during the tournament.

Argentina will carry this acquired stench for 20 years.


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