Soccer Topics: No goalies in the USA

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Cal88
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sluggo said:

Cal88 said:



This behavior on both sides is totally standard by every team now. An offensive player grabs the ball during the chaos period when the defensive team is giving the offensive team the business. When the ref clears out the defensive team the ball holder gives the ball to someone else who takes the penalty. You can hate Arsenal for other reasons, but not for this.


FYI I don't dislike Arsenal, and actually used to root for them during the Wenger era when they had several French players. I do also understand that other teams engage in "gamesmanship", but it seems that Arsenal has been pushing the envelop a bit further, and getting a lot of grief for that from neutrals :







sluggo
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I hate all the gamesmanship, too. I particularly hate the flopping and staying on the ground. But the narrative that Arsenal is somehow different than any other team does not hold water, IMO.
Cal88
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Fair enough Sluggo .

A couple of shoc kers today in Europe, France lost 2-1 to Ivory Coast, Spain tied Iraq 1-1...
concordtom
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Wasn't someone smart saying that anything can happen in a low scoring game such as soccer?
I hope Big C was reading.
concordtom
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Your complaints about time wasting is valid but wrongfully directed.
Don't blame arsenal.
Go after the rule makers
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Cal88 said:




It's official.
I'm old.

…I remember that.
Big C
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concordtom said:

Wasn't someone smart saying that anything can happen in a low scoring game such as soccer?
I hope Big C was reading.

This was a factor that blocked the advancement of my soccer fandom way back around the turn of the century: the game is tied or only one goal separates the two teams. Then, it's decided by a penalty kick on a some call that might well be bogus.

A few really good matches this time might bring me around (with you guys' help, of course).
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Cal88 said:




Cape Verde Island was a stopping point for mariners of yesteryear. They stocked up supplies before crossing the Atlantic for South America.

My ggggg great grandfather captained a ship from Nantucket in the 1790's. Elephant seal hunters.
They stopped at CVI.


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WAIT A MINUTE ! CVI is in the World Cup?????
What is their population????
Eswa-who????



The Cape Verde Islands (Cabo Verde) secured their historic first-ever qualification for the FIFA World Cup by winning Group D of the Confederation of African Football (CAF) qualifiers. They locked up their spot by defeating Eswatini 3-0 at the National Stadium in Praia, finishing four points clear of continental heavyweights Cameroon.

The Qualification Campaign
Cape Verde's path to the global stage was a masterclass in resilience and defensive discipline. The Blue Sharks completed their home fixtures with a 100% record and did not concede a single goal on their home soil.

The Clincher: On October 13, 2025, a resounding 3-0 victory over Eswatini officially punched their ticket to the finals. Goals from Dailon Livramento, Willy Semedo, and Stopira sealed the historic win.

The Final Standings: Cape Verde finished Group D at the top with 23 points, comfortably ahead of runners-up Cameroon and Angola.

Historical Significance: With a population of just over 500,000, they became the third-smallest country ever to qualify for the World Cup.

The World Cup Finals - The Blue Sharks' Cinderella run earned them a spot in the group stage of the tournament, where they were drawn into a challenging group.

Opponents: Cape Verde was placed in a group alongside European powerhouse Spain, South American giants Uruguay, and Saudi Arabia.

Key Matchup: Their highly anticipated opening match of the tournament is set against Spain.





I didn't get the memo

Swaziland officially changed its name to the Kingdom of Eswatini in April 2018. King Mswati III announced the change during a celebration for the country's 50th anniversary of independence.
Why the name change occurred:Shedding Colonial Ties: "Eswatini" translates to "land of the Swazis" in the native Swati language. The former name, "Swaziland," was an anglicized name imposed by the British Empire, serving as a mix of Swazi and English.
Preventing Confusion: The King noted that foreigners frequently confused Swaziland with Switzerland.
sluggo
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Sendoff match is this Saturday at 11:30AM on TBS against Germany. Chris Richards is still nursing his ankle so he will not play, but he is in training. His replacement is between Mark McKenzie and Auston Trusty. Neither is ideal. Because Ream is left footed McKenzie is right footed and Trusty is left footed, McKenzie will probably get the job. I like Trust better as he is 6'4'' and more physical.

Another thing to look at is who will play in the center midfield next to Tyler Adams. Candidates are Tillman, Reyna, Berhalter, and Roldan. (Or Weston McKennie could move back.) I like Tillman and Reyna, but I think Poch likes Berhalter and Roldan, two MLS players who I think are not up to the job. Obed Vargas, who is pefect for the job and played at the U20 WC for the US and now plays for Atletico Madrid, is on Mexico's squad. Damn. We are losing as many players to other countries as we get from them.

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"Norway fans cheer depicting Vikings rowing a ship. The Norway national team, appearing in Viking attire, is generating buzz for being cool"
concordtom
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Haaland….if Norway advances far, that would be a lot of fun.
I don't watch much international soccer, but he must be the most exciting player I can think of by far.
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Obed Vargas chose to represent Mexico over the United States because of his lifelong emotional connection to the Mexican team and his desire to honor his family's heritage. Born in Alaska to Mexican-American parents, he grew up watching El Tri and stated it was the team he felt the most love towards.

Key factors in his decision:Cultural Connection: Vargas grew up immersed in Mexican culture, and his father previously played as a youth for Mexican club Monarcas Morelia. He viewed the switch as a way to honor his roots and family.

Lifelong Dream: Despite representing the U.S. at the youth levelincluding the 2023 FIFA U-20 World CupVargas completed a one-time FIFA switch in 2024, noting that playing for Mexico was a dream he had since he was a child.

Gratitude: Vargas expressed immense respect for the opportunities provided by the U.S. Soccer Federation but made it clear his heart was always with Mexico, emphasizing that the move was entirely a cultural choice rather than being pushed out of the U.S. system.

More chatter on his switch here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ussoccer/comments/1dfajfx/obed_vargas_on_what_the_ussf_did_or_didnt_do_that/
concordtom
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Looking for Mexico roster talk….


Funny, above, because another video said that Edson Alvarez is a lock for defensive mid, while left off above.
This next video agrees and is bullish on Alvarez.

concordtom
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This guy is not bad


And he reminded me of Mexico's coach Pumba, hahaha - at least, that's what my wife and I nicknamed him!




sluggo
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sluggo said:

Sendoff match is this Saturday at 11:30AM on TBS against Germany. Chris Richards is still nursing his ankle so he will not play, but he is in training. His replacement is between Mark McKenzie and Auston Trusty. Neither is ideal. Because Ream is left footed McKenzie is right footed and Trusty is left footed, McKenzie will probably get the job. I like Trust better as he is 6'4'' and more physical.

Another thing to look at is who will play in the center midfield next to Tyler Adams. Candidates are Tillman, Reyna, Berhalter, and Roldan. (Or Weston McKennie could move back.) I like Tillman and Reyna, but I think Poch likes Berhalter and Roldan, two MLS players who I think are not up to the job. Obed Vargas, who is pefect for the job and played at the U20 WC for the US and now plays for Atletico Madrid, is on Mexico's squad. Damn. We are losing as many players to other countries as we get from them.



Ussoccer, the official website, says tbs. Sling says TNT. I plan to be out so I guess I will record both.

A commentator said the US would be in something like its Paraguay lineup and the starters would play 60 minutes. We will see.
sluggo
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I don't disagree with what AI is saying about Vargas. I only wanted to make the point that the world has turned and other countries are taking our players like we take theirs. Vargas was born here and learned his soccer here. And now he is playing for Mexico. There are fights now over the best Mexican-American teenagers, that is, players raised here with some Mexican heritage. Mexico wanted Ricardo Pepi but he chose us.

Vargas also just happens to play one of the positions where we are short. I like him a lot as a player.
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Mexico talk: As I mentioned striker Raul Jimenez is their key player. He is one of the better strikers in the premier league after returning to form following a bad few years with a head injury. He is 35 but still seems to be in his prime.

I see Edson Alvarez has moved to Turkey after a couple years at West Ham. He is a solid defensive mid who plays a little rough. He often gets into scraps against the US.

Their goalie Ochoa is 40. At his best he was just okay. I wonder if he still is even okay.

Vargas, who has a chance to play, is not the only American raised player. They also have midfielder Brian Gutierrez. I have never seen him play. The US did not really want him.

Cesar Montes is a starting central defender for them. At 6'5'' and very strong he is a problem. It seems like he has played forever but is just 29. He is not the fastest player.

Their general problem is that they are not the fastest team. Everyone who gets on the field has good skills. They have enthusiastic but problematic fans. They are a team that beats weaker teams but rarely upsets stronger teams.
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2026/jun/06/power-and-glory-world-cup-promises-a-spectacle-impossible-to-ignore


"This is the end, of our elaborate plans, the end. Of everything that stands, the end. It seems fitting that football's latest stopping point on its voyage upriver into the blank parts of the map, a mission so choice that when it's over you may never want another one, should be a World Cup overseen by a haunted-looking man with a messiah complex, out there operating beyond the pale of acceptable sporting governance, the warrior-poet Swiss lawyer football never knew it needed.

The 2026 World Cup in the US, Mexico and Canada will finally kick off in earnest on 11 June at the Azteca Stadium. From there the tournament will unspool across 39 days, 16 host cities, 104 matches and a 6,000-mile span from Mexico City in the south to Vancouver in the north to Boston in the east. Ten years in the making, the end product of a century of powerplay and hyper-grift, this is by almost any metric not just the largest sporting event ever staged, but the largest event, as we say in America, period.

How football explains the world, part 95. It has been estimated the tournament will generate $80bn (59.7bn) in global economic output across its full timeline, roughly equivalent to the GDP of Belarus. Basically, if the World Cup were a country someone would have stationed nuclear weapons on it by now. Here we have big sport in its final global form. But also, in the spirit of the times, a spectacle configured in the image of a single opportunist overlord.

This is Gianni Infantino's world now, a man who carries with him at all times that oddly alluring sense of complete conviction in his own inauthenticity, whirling his arms like a Las Vegas illusionist, doling out favours on a round of applause, beaming piously around the walnut table of power, even as his own peace prize overlord initiates eight separate military actions inside a year, and all the while saying things like joy, love, unity, hope. Or as Shakira might put it, Dai, dai, ikou, dale, allez, let's go.

This is what the summer of 2026 has in store for us on its six-week sprint through Trump's America, a place of triple-speak and power-flash, and in its own way the perfect state of the art sporting spectacle. Welcome to the heart of darkness.

Another paradox: for all its modernity the 2026 World Cup also feels like the end of many things, a last great firework show before the start of whatever comes next. Most obviously, the end of any remaining notion of football as the people's game, a heist that is by now on its second or third victory lap.

Qatar 2022 felt like an end point on the journey into dictator-ball and propaganda spectacle. Well, hold my Bud Light
The end of any sense of scale in the staging of these events. The end of football consumption in its old form, the transition from analysis and dissent to noise and colour, the brain-blurts of in-house content providers. Beyond that the World Cup provides a window on America at the end of its own century, still the heart of global culture, even as it seems both exhausted and gripped with wild energies, a country that is all played out.

There is always a little pretournament hysteria, and nowhere does hysteria quite like America. But it isn't hard to offer up a simple list of all that is wrong with this picture. Qatar 2022 felt like an end point on the journey into dictator-ball and propaganda spectacle. Well, hold my Bud Light.

Three short months ago the US assassinated the head of state of one of its competing nations, and this seems, at the time of writing, to be just fine. Donald Trump's immigration militia is still out there lassoing its own populace, a process that could yet entwine itself around tournament matches. The World Cup is itself an act of economic violence, with vertiginous travel costs and premium seats for the final approaching $33,000 (24,000) at face value. This is a spectacle designed to tell you, very clearly, that you are nothing but a set of passive eyeballs, an economic activity drone.

As for the sport-washing of atrocities and abuse, football hasn't just offered itself up to Trumpism, but become an active player in the process, Infantino following his latest despot-crush around like a lovesick nine-year-old, giving him a ball, a trophy, a friendship band.

In any sane not-for-profit organisation the cosying up to successive despots would be grounds to be ejected from office. But this is Fifa, and Infantino will instead use the flood of cash to shore up his own position before next year's thirdterm presidential elections, leveraging his status as a kind of human logo, Brand Football, essence of human greed and vanity minced into a smooth, pink, fleshy mulch and crammed into a blue suit and white Stan Smiths.

It is in its own way a remarkable act of transformation, the unremarkable Swiss administrator who stepped into the Blatter vacuum and revealed a Napoleonic facility for power, who has exchanged corruption for a golden helicopter ride around the world of despot-populism. Under Infantino Fifa has become a one-man deal with the devil, where the devil never actually needs to ask for his payback, because the devil is already on the payroll.

So. Why are you going then? Why is the Guardian giving air and light to this event? If you don't like it, why not boycott?

It is good question deserving of a proper answer. Which is, that this fails to understand the point of journalism. Ignoring this event will not affect what Trump does or how Fifa acts. No-platforming football is a bizarre idea. The sport won't suffer. It's too big, too visible.

By turning away you vacate the space entirely. Infantino would be delighted if nobody present pointed out his flaws or tried to call him to account. For this World Cup, Fifa has already roped in its own band of influencers and message amplifiers to provide fawning coverage via their Miami office. Words, dissent, analysis, the things that ultimately did for the House of Blatter: this only happens when that much derided thing, independent media, is in the room. Boycott the show and the space is filled entirely with paid noise. Money is driving us that way. But not quite yet.

Also, someone has to tell the other story, about the beauty and allure of this global spectacle, still the greatest show on earth, even with its own sclerotic Uncle Sam dancing along at the head of the parade.

So we have a tournament still to play. When it comes to a winner it is hard to look past the usual teams. France have the best squad, and still provide the model of how to coach and source players. Spain have talent, a system, a way of playing and just know how to ease through tournaments. Portugal have an excellent squad, but they also have the world's most famous man, football's own late-stage Elvis, still demanding to be wheeled out on stage in his white suit to play the hits.

All eight World Cups played in the Americas have ended with at least one South American finalist. Brazil and Argentina are still the obvious choices, for historic and also talent reasons. Brazil have a great goalkeeper, a very good defence and elite elements in attack. In Carlo Ancelotti they basically have football's dad, a manager who knows how to make elite players feel good.

Ideally we might see a surprise. Morocco are a very good team. Norway are easy in their own skin and have a striker with 55 goals in 49 games, and 12 in his last five at the time of writing. Nobody will fancy playing them in a quarter-final in Foxborough, Massachusetts in early July.

And so to England, who are currently third favourites on UK betting exchanges, which says more about expectation (greatest hand of sword-from-the-stone talent in the world) than past performance (two losing semi-finals outside England since 1930). But England do have a strong chance of getting to the final stages. They have the familiar mix of very good if not world-beating players (apologies, Premier League hype machine) and some gaps measured against the very best (centreback, right-back, left-back, midfield).

Against this England have not just an elite overseas manager, but the right one this time, a step on from the mute entropy of Fabio Capello and Sven-Göran Eriksson's repackaged pomo template, Charles Hughes in an Italian suit. There will be less stuff about the onerous majesty of Englishness, fewer stirring open letters, more boggle-eyed in-game tactical interventions from the man in the golf-casual leisurewear.


Also, the tempo of this tournament may suit England. A prediction: the games will be long, arduous, heat-sapped affairs between tired players. There will be a great deal of drinks-break rejigging. Football will be broken into units of time and phases of play. There will be complaints about this in the group stages, with mediocre games at difficult kick-off times because Fifa has chosen to degrade its product in search of scale.

But this may suit England's strengths. Harry Kane will be coming off a Ballon d'Or-curious season, and old enough to marshal his energies. There will be a strong set-piece element and plenty of video assistant refereeing. Thomas Tuchel is good at delivering high-speed tactical input. They may just tick their way through this thing to the sharp end again.

Beyond this we have an undeniably operatic cast of characters. Lionel Messi now lives in Florida and is still a genius. Cristiano Ronaldo will take his global personality phenomenon around a country he has stayed away from for the last 10 years. And the US does actually have a football culture. This is a game already loved by the pre-converted and by large parts of its immigrant population.

So much of the backbeat to this World Cup has been about the country itself, the basic question of whether America still works. Is it a good or a bad place? Does this shared experiment still have love and optimism and a welcome to give? Has it betrayed its status as the cultural and economic centre of the last hundred years, the wellspring of music, culture, mega-brands, a system of being?

Or is this show being run by a bunch of four-star clowns who are going to end up giving the whole circus away? All that seems certain is it's impossible to take your eyes away from a dying star; and that we will, above all, be watching."
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The starting lineup has been announced. Good news, Malik Tillman in midfield, plus Freese in goal. Bad news, Miles Robinson at center back, he is a disaster. But Chris Richards will replace him when healthy. It could be that Robinson is being elevated from third string to keep the second string as the second string. Assuming they play a 4-2-3-1, this is what I expect:

Balogun
Pulisic McKennie Dest
Adams Tillman
A. Robinson Ream M. Robinson Freeman
Freese

I think this is the starting lineup for Paraguay with Richards replacing M. Robinson. This is also the starting lineup I would choose. Of course it does not matter what I think, but I do like when the coach agrees with me.

Today's USMNT Starting XI vs. Germany 24-Matt Freese, 2-Sergio Dest, 4-Tyler Adams, 5-Antone Robinson, 8-Weston McKennie, 10-Christian Pulisic, 12-Miles Robinson, 13-Tim Ream (capt.), 16-Alex Freeman, 17-Malik Tillman, 20-Folarin Balogun
Substitutes: 1-Matt Turner, 25-Chris Brady, 4-Tyler Adams, 6-Auston Trusty, 7-Gio Reyna, 9-Ricardo Pepi, 11-Brenden Aaronson, 14-Sebastian Berhalter, 15-Cristian Roldan, 18-Max Arfsten, 19-Haji Wright, 21-Tim Weah, 22-Mark McKenzie, 23-Joe Scally, 26-Alex Zendejas
Not Dressed: 3-Chris Richards

https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2026/06/usmnt/starting-xi-lineup-notes-vs-germany-chicago-illinois
 
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