The WNBA Trans Problem

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wifeisafurd
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I figured that I better start the over here than on the basketball board, because it would get moved here in any event.

Two former NBA players have announced they will declare for the 2027 WNBA draft. This may be a stunt, but both players stated they want to test the league's inclusion standards and policies, and it pretty clear they could be the top players picked. Royce White, who is now a Republican politician, indicated he's transgender and identifies as a woman "sometimes… for purpose of basketball, professional basketball." White is 6'8", and played at at 260 lbs, was a first round pick, played through 2018 and while 35, appears to be in playing shape. Enes Caner, 34, is, a 6'10" NBA center, who played professionally for 10 years is saying he is transgender for the right money. Polymaket gives him a 32% chance of being drafted as the top pick, which says something about betting these days. Both these guys look like buff dudes.

The WNBA commissioner, ,rather than declaring this a ruse (though both former players of course now have retained legal representation), indicated instead the issue of biological men playing in the WNBA is a "very nuanced issue." She said she was appointing a committee to study the issue. WNBA player eligibility rules are governed by a Collective Bargaining Agreement, meaning they aren't at the sole discretion of WNBA leadership, but the Commish did say "preserving the integrity of our game and ensuring fair competition will always remain among the league's highest priorities." I'm sure that gives everyone a clear picture of her thinking (sarcasm intended).

The WNBA players association released a statement insisting they will not be used as "political pawns" and condemning hate while calling for stronger Title IX protections, whatever that means in this context. It is not clear if tthe players want the WNBA to define "woman" by biology or open the door to biological men who would immediately dominate, or perhaps even develop some form of trans standard whereby trans players would have to meet some sort of criteria, which itself raises a lot of questions and consequences, and do away with the current standard of simple self- identification. But is clear the players do really, condemn hate.

bearister
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Hey, if it picks up the level of play and makes the product remotely watchable, this a shrewd business move. Barnum and Bailey that sh@it!
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This is what happens when people go overboard with all that.

A better test case would be a trans woman who has identified as such for a long time, passes whatever sort of hormone test they might think up and maybe has even had that junk chopped off down there. And she should be an average WNBA player: not someone who would dominate, but certainly would take a roster spot from a woman who was born as such.

But test cases like the two referenced are certainly interesting, as well.
wifeisafurd
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bearister said:

Hey, if it picks up the level of play and makes the product remotely watchable, this a shrewd business move. Barnum and Bailey that sh@it!

sorry for the non-sequiter: Trying to make sports more watchable? Start this at about one minute in - what if we add defense?
sycasey
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This is not a serious thing and these guys are obviously doing it for political attention.

But yes, the league should have some kind of eligibility standard if it doesn't already. Legitimately have no idea if they do.
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sycasey said:

This is not a serious thing and these guys are obviously doing it for political attention.

But yes, the league should have some kind of eligibility standard if it doesn't already. Legitimately have no idea if they do.

apparently if you self-identify as trans you qualify. In White's case it clearly is politically motivated. The other guy hard to say. He made serious coin in the NBA and WNBA doesn't pay that well. Might be fronting for a lawyer looking for a case. With all the other headaches the WNBA had with Clark, reffing issues, etc. they don't need this wedge issue now.
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wifeisafurd said:

sycasey said:

This is not a serious thing and these guys are obviously doing it for political attention.

But yes, the league should have some kind of eligibility standard if it doesn't already. Legitimately have no idea if they do.

apparently if you self-identify as trans you qualify. In White's case it clearly is motivated. The other guy hard to say. He made serious coin in the NBA and WNBA doesn't pay that well. Might be fronting for a lawyer looking for a case. With all the other headaches the WNBA had with Clark, reffing issues, etc. they don't need this wedge issue now.

Well, just today, DiJonai Carrington clobbered Sophia Cunningham, pulling her down from behind by her neck while she was shooting a wide open layup, and, upon review, was given a flagrant 2 and ejected. She went on Threads after the game and posted "White Privilege."

In the same game, Caitlin Clark was bumped out of bounds by the defender while making a dime to a cutting forward from the baseline. Caitlin inadvertently bumped the rep and, instead of people talking about the nice pass, the ref stopped the play to give CC a technical foul for bumping her. This tech was immediately rescinded after the game because it was obvious to everybody but the ref that it was an accident.

Catty garbage.
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oski003 said:

wifeisafurd said:

sycasey said:

This is not a serious thing and these guys are obviously doing it for political attention.

But yes, the league should have some kind of eligibility standard if it doesn't already. Legitimately have no idea if they do.

apparently if you self-identify as trans you qualify. In White's case it clearly is motivated. The other guy hard to say. He made serious coin in the NBA and WNBA doesn't pay that well. Might be fronting for a lawyer looking for a case. With all the other headaches the WNBA had with Clark, reffing issues, etc. they don't need this wedge issue now.

Well, just today, DiJonai Carrington clobbered Sophia Cunningham, pulling her down from behind by her neck while she was shooting a wide open layup, and, upon review, was given a flagrant 2 and ejected. She went on Threads after the game and posted "White Privilege."

In the same game, Caitlin Clark was bumped out of bounds by the defender while making a dime to a cutting forward from the baseline. Caitlin inadvertently bumped the rep and, instead of people talking about the nice pass, the ref stopped the play to give CC a technical foul for bumping her. This tech was immediately rescinded after the game because it was obvious to everybody but the ref that it was an accident.

Catty garbage.

DiJonai Carrington has had a rough life, what with attending private schools (including Stanfurd) and now being a regular victim of White Privilege. It's kinda like she's been in Gaza or South Sudan or something. I just hope she's okay.
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sycasey said:

This is not a serious thing and these guys are obviously doing it for political attention.

But yes, the league should have some kind of eligibility standard if it doesn't already. Legitimately have no idea if they do.


They are doing it to prove a point and I'd say they are already proving it well.
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This will be a disaster for their game and particularly their fan base, women and disproportionately lesbian. Inadvertently it may lead to some common sense
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Anarchistbear said:

This will be a disaster for their game and particularly their fan base, women and disproportionately lesbian. Inadvertently it may lead to some common sense

I love it precisely because in demonstrating the absurdity of the current rules it will force some common sense on people.

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oski003 said:

wifeisafurd said:

sycasey said:

This is not a serious thing and these guys are obviously doing it for political attention.

But yes, the league should have some kind of eligibility standard if it doesn't already. Legitimately have no idea if they do.

apparently if you self-identify as trans you qualify. In White's case it clearly is motivated. The other guy hard to say. He made serious coin in the NBA and WNBA doesn't pay that well. Might be fronting for a lawyer looking for a case. With all the other headaches the WNBA had with Clark, reffing issues, etc. they don't need this wedge issue now.

Well, just today, DiJonai Carrington clobbered Sophia Cunningham, pulling her down from behind by her neck while she was shooting a wide open layup, and, upon review, was given a flagrant 2 and ejected. She went on Threads after the game and posted "White Privilege."

In the same game, Caitlin Clark was bumped out of bounds by the defender while making a dime to a cutting forward from the baseline. Caitlin inadvertently bumped the rep and, instead of people talking about the nice pass, the ref stopped the play to give CC a technical foul for bumping her. This tech was immediately rescinded after the game because it was obvious to everybody but the ref that it was an accident.

Catty garbage.
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cal83dls79
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The refs in the league are horrible. On top of that the league is largely played out like a reality tv show on social media where the drama bits are far more interesting than anything on the court.
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bearister
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Yes, all these "controversies" are by design.

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Send my credentials to the House of Detention
I got some friends inside”
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oski003
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cal83dls79 said:

oski003 said:

wifeisafurd said:

sycasey said:

This is not a serious thing and these guys are obviously doing it for political attention.

But yes, the league should have some kind of eligibility standard if it doesn't already. Legitimately have no idea if they do.

apparently if you self-identify as trans you qualify. In White's case it clearly is motivated. The other guy hard to say. He made serious coin in the NBA and WNBA doesn't pay that well. Might be fronting for a lawyer looking for a case. With all the other headaches the WNBA had with Clark, reffing issues, etc. they don't need this wedge issue now.

Well, just today, DiJonai Carrington clobbered Sophia Cunningham, pulling her down from behind by her neck while she was shooting a wide open layup, and, upon review, was given a flagrant 2 and ejected. She went on Threads after the game and posted "White Privilege."

In the same game, Caitlin Clark was bumped out of bounds by the defender while making a dime to a cutting forward from the baseline. Caitlin inadvertently bumped the rep and, instead of people talking about the nice pass, the ref stopped the play to give CC a technical foul for bumping her. This tech was immediately rescinded after the game because it was obvious to everybody but the ref that it was an accident.

Catty garbage.
watch this if you want to put an icicle in your head:





The lady defending DiJonai ignores the fact you can easily put a full montage together of her hitting players in the head while attempting to block them from behind. DiJonai also notoriously directly poked CC in the eye last year while facing her head on. She is dangerously reckless. Someone needs to take her out back and kick her butt.
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cal83dls79 said:

The refs in the league are horrible. On top of that the league is largely played out like a reality tv show on social media where the drama bits are far more interesting than anything on the court.


Exactly.

It's terribly performative.
That's why I don't watch any of it or lose sleep over it.
Plenty of other high-quality sports to watch that aren't the WNBA.


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A Furd has had the best take on this and owned Royce on this. I thought Royce was afraid to fly on airplanes also?

https://nypost.com/2026/08/09/sports/robin-lopez-takes-shot-at-enes-kanter-royce-white-amid-unreal-wnba-claim/

Nice shot Robin!

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SBGold said:

A Furd has had the best take on this and owned Royce on this. I thought Royce was afraid to fly on airplanes also?

https://nypost.com/2026/08/09/sports/robin-lopez-takes-shot-at-enes-kanter-royce-white-amid-unreal-wnba-claim/

Nice shot Robin!

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Is it true Robbn Lopez really is Sideshow Bob?

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wifeisafurd said:

SBGold said:

A Furd has had the best take on this and owned Royce on this. I thought Royce was afraid to fly on airplanes also?

https://nypost.com/2026/08/09/sports/robin-lopez-takes-shot-at-enes-kanter-royce-white-amid-unreal-wnba-claim/

Nice shot Robin!

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Is it true Robbn Lopez really is Sideshow https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRobin_Lopez&ved=0CBYQjRxqFwoTCOj76peAlZYDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAJ&opi=89978449

He's a bit different, seems like a good guy though

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wifeisafurd
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SBGold said:

wifeisafurd said:

SBGold said:

A Furd has had the best take on this and owned Royce on this. I thought Royce was afraid to fly on airplanes also?

https://nypost.com/2026/08/09/sports/robin-lopez-takes-shot-at-enes-kanter-royce-white-amid-unreal-wnba-claim/

Nice shot Robin!

VOTE BLUE AND VOTE GAVIN

Is it true Robbn Lopez really is Sideshow https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRobin_Lopez&ved=0CBYQjRxqFwoTCOj76peAlZYDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAJ&opi=89978449

He's a bit different, seems like a good guy though

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Now hold on, Lopez has among others things:

  • Framed Krusty the Clown for a armed robbery
  • Stolen a nuclear bomb to hold Springfield hostage
  • Rigged a mayoral election using names of dead people
  • Tried to blow up the city and anyone in his way
  • Attempted to murder Bart repeatedly over the years.
  • Maybe you are right
  • SBGold
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    Lol, well played
    concordtom
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    bearister said:

    Yes, all these "controversies" are by design.




    Lol
    That's what I was going to say!!
    People are talking about the WNBA.

    concordtom
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    This issue doesn't affect me or anyone else here.
    True?
    False?

    We could discuss my stamp collection, too, if people want to.
    sycasey
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    This seems a bit overboard.

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    cal83dls79 said:

    oski003 said:

    wifeisafurd said:

    sycasey said:

    This is not a serious thing and these guys are obviously doing it for political attention.

    But yes, the league should have some kind of eligibility standard if it doesn't already. Legitimately have no idea if they do.

    apparently if you self-identify as trans you qualify. In White's case it clearly is motivated. The other guy hard to say. He made serious coin in the NBA and WNBA doesn't pay that well. Might be fronting for a lawyer looking for a case. With all the other headaches the WNBA had with Clark, reffing issues, etc. they don't need this wedge issue now.

    Well, just today, DiJonai Carrington clobbered Sophia Cunningham, pulling her down from behind by her neck while she was shooting a wide open layup, and, upon review, was given a flagrant 2 and ejected. She went on Threads after the game and posted "White Privilege."

    In the same game, Caitlin Clark was bumped out of bounds by the defender while making a dime to a cutting forward from the baseline. Caitlin inadvertently bumped the rep and, instead of people talking about the nice pass, the ref stopped the play to give CC a technical foul for bumping her. This tech was immediately rescinded after the game because it was obvious to everybody but the ref that it was an accident.

    Catty garbage.

    watch this if you want to put an icicle in your head:




    Just gonna say, anybody that came across like that at the YMCA, there's a fight starting. Like that was flat out assault and ESPN trying to pretend that was some normal in game play was ridiculous. Even the "highlights" they tried to compare Carrington with before...it's not even close to the same kind of contact lol. ESPN should be embarrassed to have that put on TV.
    SBGold
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    Floriduh will never change, always Floriduh,

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