I've said before, I will stick with CAL no matter what. I love CAL, but there are high school teams in Texas that play better football than our Bears. We may still end up winning, but this is hard to watch.
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True, but you need to leave some room below us for Syracuse and all their mistakes. The penalties, the INTs the missed FGs. They were handing us the game... and we just barely took it.
Pop Warner for Syracuse maybe?
Agree!! It's so frustrating, especially so since I love our CAL. I live in Houston now, and some of the high school football here is amazing. You should see the stadiums here for high school!! Right now everyone is glued to UT/ Ohio State.
HateRed said:
Agree!! It's so frustrating, especially so since I love our CAL. I live in Houston now, and some of the high school football here is amazing. You should see the stadiums here for high school!! Right now everyone is glued to UT/ Ohio State.
High school football might be amazing but don't kid yourself, it's not college football by any means, even in texass.
Mmmm…have you lived in Texas??? High school football here is like a religion. You should see North Park (Houston) play.
HateRed said:
Mmmm…have you lived in Texas??? High school football here is like a religion. You should see North Park (Houston) play.
Thank goodness no I do not live in texass. Cal or Syracuse would absolutely steamroll even the best high school team. There's a huge difference between having a few D-I recruits and putting 85 D-I players on the same roster.
Maybe you misunderstood what I was alluding to??? Either way, it's ok. Support here for hs football is amazing. Personally I don't miss CA or WA (where I lived for nine years before moving here to Houston). It is amazing how fast this state is growing. I really think that the future of America is Texas, it's not CA. I say in ten years will start seeing that. Fingers crossed for CAL's next three games.
HateRed said:
Maybe you misunderstood what I was alluding to??? Either way, it's ok. Support here for hs football is amazing. Personally I don't miss CA or WA (where I lived for nine years before moving here to Houston). It is amazing how fast this state is growing. I really think that the future of America is Texas, it's not CA. I say in ten years will start seeing that. Fingers crossed for CAL's next three games.
I am glad to hear that you love texass, enjoy the cesspool.
Delete.
I like CA a lot. It's just too expensive. I'm sorry you think it's a cesspool. It's not, as a matter of fact from Austin to The Piney Woods is beautiful and forested. Houston is built in a forest. If you dislike Texas for its politics, I do too. It's lethal here, but every state has it.
calpoly said:HateRed said:
Mmmm…have you lived in Texas??? High school football here is like a religion. You should see North Park (Houston) play.
Thank goodness no I do not live in texass. Cal or Syracuse would absolutely steamroll even the best high school team. There's a huge difference between having a few D-I recruits and putting 85 D-I players on the same roster.
From the sound of it, you're better off out of Texas, except for Austin. You might find some friends there.
But, your point is well taken. Most of those top Texas hs teams have a few 4 stars, but they are immature, physically. Now, put a team of them together 4 years later and you might have something.
HateRed said:
I like CA a lot. It's just too expensive. I'm sorry you think it's a cesspool. It's not, as a matter of fact from Austin to The Piney Woods is beautiful and forested. Houston is built in a forest. If you dislike Texas for its politics, I do too. It's lethal here, but every state has it.
I went the other way around. I lived in Texas as a little kid, before moving to California, where I grew up. I have some fond memories of Texas, but am glad I left. I visited Texas for work a couple times in the early 2000s; I was glad for the trips back to Texas but even more glad to be flying back to California.
For one, humidity is not my friend. For another, the natural beauty of California dwarfs that found in Texas*. Also, California has all four seasons within driving distance.
Finally, the food scene in California is the best. I can have pastrami breakfast burritos in the morning, goulash for lunch, and doro wat for dinner followed by a nightcap of California wines. Don't get me wrong, Texas BBQ is the best and Texmex is also fantastic, but the melting pot of cuisines and cultures in California is nonpareil.
Sure, there's plenty California doesn't get quite right. The cost of living is also ridiculous! But overall, California is about as close to paradise as I've found.
*Is there anything to rival Yosemite? That's one of the most beautiful spots on God's green earth, IMHO.
lived in Houston and played HS football for a year at Strake before finishing where I started in HS. I learned "yes sir" real quick like. Houston was growing like crazy when I was there. Lots of young people and transplants to make friends with. Plenty to do. Food is great. Weather sucks balls. When I was there 18 was the drinking age and I remember having a few beers in a few joints (with additional entertainment) after a hard days work building elevators for Dover in the summer swampHateRed said:
I like CA a lot. It's just too expensive. I'm sorry you think it's a cesspool. It's not, as a matter of fact from Austin to The Piney Woods is beautiful and forested. Houston is built in a forest. If you dislike Texas for its politics, I do too. It's lethal here, but every state has it.
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When I moved to Poulsbo, WA, I did so because of the mess that L.A. is. Poulsbo is surrounded by water and forest and yet it is a 30 minute ferry ride to Seattle. Probably the most beautiful commute in the world. The first time I went back to L.A. (and S.F.) I couldn't wait to get back to WA. L.A. was just too ugly and dirty. In Poulsbo I knew my neighbors and we are still good friends. However, the winters are horrible and that drove me to Houston. I know my neighbors here and we get together for whatever and it's nice. Yes, it's hot and humid, but the thunderstorms are amazing and they cool things down. Everything that L.A. and S.F. and Seattle have, Houston has and maybe better. Football is huge here and (sadly) it makes football in CA child's play. I do like L.A. as I said before, but it's expensive all the way around. We have a gorgeous house here in Houston that would cost millions in CA. Everything is so much cheaper here. I'll go back to CA for football, perhaps The Big Game. You've got to wonder about the movement of people from CA to Texas. CA has lost congressional representation and Texas has gained. All you need to do is come here and see the explosive growth. Man, they're building elementary schools that look like mini college campuses. I like it here. I like CA too, especially the Bay Area. Good luck with the gold out vs Clemson.
Can't blame you for leaving SoCal. I lived in Seattle before it went left-crazy and visited Poulsbo a few times. Good bread! The ferry rides are wonderful although less enjoyable when it rains (which it does a whole lot up there). Seattle is still beautiful on the outside. Got married on Mercer Island.
I visit Texas every two years and you're right about the incredible growth. I've known plenty of Californians who have moved there to escape Sacramento, and all the problems you cited (plus more).
H.S. football in Texas is crazy. There are high schools with nicer football stadiums than some of the college stadiums I've been to. But as a fan, you're lucky to have two SEC teams, and Houston to follow locally.
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What's crazy to me is this common recurring theme in the quotations from people who move to Texas….
"It's growing so fast here"; "the growth is so great"
Which if you have any critically thinking bone in your body is the exact same thing that made California so great.
All the while missing the warning signs that it (and many other states) are on the exact same trajectory that led to many of California's problems. Ie: energy, education system, roads, etc.
Deregulation is great until it isn't. It's great to be in the midst of unfettered growth but then, unchecked capitalism shows its ugly side.
I hope those states don't experience the problems we have but personally I think they'll actually be worse. Say what you want about California but our public services, consumer protections, environmental protection, etc are all night and day compared to red states.
"This ain't California dude we don't have to worry about wildfires here. Rake your forests"
That's the general attitude. And that right their should tell you all you need to know about how incredibly ****ed states like Texas are given they are led by science denying sociopaths who think the solution to school shootings is to "pray more".
"It's growing so fast here"; "the growth is so great"
Which if you have any critically thinking bone in your body is the exact same thing that made California so great.
All the while missing the warning signs that it (and many other states) are on the exact same trajectory that led to many of California's problems. Ie: energy, education system, roads, etc.
Deregulation is great until it isn't. It's great to be in the midst of unfettered growth but then, unchecked capitalism shows its ugly side.
I hope those states don't experience the problems we have but personally I think they'll actually be worse. Say what you want about California but our public services, consumer protections, environmental protection, etc are all night and day compared to red states.
"This ain't California dude we don't have to worry about wildfires here. Rake your forests"
That's the general attitude. And that right their should tell you all you need to know about how incredibly ****ed states like Texas are given they are led by science denying sociopaths who think the solution to school shootings is to "pray more".
CNHTH said:
What's crazy to me is this common recurring theme in the quotations from people who move to Texas….
"It's growing so fast here"; "the growth is so great"
Which if you have any critically thinking bone in your body is the exact same thing that made California so great.
All the while missing the warning signs that it (and many other states) are on the exact same trajectory that led to many of California's problems. Ie: energy, education system, roads, etc.
Deregulation is great until it isn't. It's great to be in the midst of unfettered growth but then, unchecked capitalism shows its ugly side.
I hope those states don't experience the problems we have but personally I think they'll actually be worse. Say what you want about California but our public services, consumer protections, environmental protection, etc are all night and day compared to red states.
"This ain't California dude we don't have to worry about wildfires here. Rake your forests"
That's the general attitude. And that right their should tell you all you need to know about how incredibly ****ed states like Texas are given they are led by science denying sociopaths who think the solution to school shootings is to "pray more".
If you had any idea what you're talking about, you might even be believable. Have you ever spent any significant time in Texas?
Golden One said:CNHTH said:
What's crazy to me is this common recurring theme in the quotations from people who move to Texas….
"It's growing so fast here"; "the growth is so great"
Which if you have any critically thinking bone in your body is the exact same thing that made California so great.
All the while missing the warning signs that it (and many other states) are on the exact same trajectory that led to many of California's problems. Ie: energy, education system, roads, etc.
Deregulation is great until it isn't. It's great to be in the midst of unfettered growth but then, unchecked capitalism shows its ugly side.
I hope those states don't experience the problems we have but personally I think they'll actually be worse. Say what you want about California but our public services, consumer protections, environmental protection, etc are all night and day compared to red states.
"This ain't California dude we don't have to worry about wildfires here. Rake your forests"
That's the general attitude. And that right their should tell you all you need to know about how incredibly ****ed states like Texas are given they are led by science denying sociopaths who think the solution to school shootings is to "pray more".
If you had any idea what you're talking about, you might even be believable. Have you ever spent any significant time in Texas?
He'll say he did. Maybe in Austin.
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I've been to Texas (Houston, Dallas, Austin, San Antonio) and I can tell you right now if that is the future of America then its very sad. Texas is the poster child for how to manage a state wrong. It is strip mall city all over, toll roads a plenty, and serious lack of Planning. Football is a religion - great. Must of broke their hearts when Cal came in and beat Texas teams. A state that specializes in denying citizens their right to vote.
Golden One said:CNHTH said:
What's crazy to me is this common recurring theme in the quotations from people who move to Texas….
"It's growing so fast here"; "the growth is so great"
Which if you have any critically thinking bone in your body is the exact same thing that made California so great.
All the while missing the warning signs that it (and many other states) are on the exact same trajectory that led to many of California's problems. Ie: energy, education system, roads, etc.
Deregulation is great until it isn't. It's great to be in the midst of unfettered growth but then, unchecked capitalism shows its ugly side.
I hope those states don't experience the problems we have but personally I think they'll actually be worse. Say what you want about California but our public services, consumer protections, environmental protection, etc are all night and day compared to red states.
"This ain't California dude we don't have to worry about wildfires here. Rake your forests"
That's the general attitude. And that right their should tell you all you need to know about how incredibly ****ed states like Texas are given they are led by science denying sociopaths who think the solution to school shootings is to "pray more".
If you had any idea what you're talking about, you might even be believable. Have you ever spent any significant time in Texas?
I've spent an enormous amount of time in Texas mostly as an engineer. And while I appreciate the lack of red tape on projects and the rapid growth it produces it also comes with some serious red flags with respect to things that were missed and ignored which is exactly the type of growth at all costs mindset that led to the vast majority of California's problems.
Thank you for proving my point. I'll stay in Cali and fix the long term results of Reagan era deregulation and you can stay in Texas and witness first hand what happens when Pete Wilson in a wheel chair deregulates everything expecting a different result.
Last time I checked, Texas literally had no zoning laws.
Houston has zero.
Houston has zero.
DiabloWags said:
Last time I checked, Texas literally had no zoning laws.
Houston has zero.
Check again. Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, Fort Worth, etc all have conventional zoning laws.
BearlySane88 said:DiabloWags said:
Last time I checked, Texas literally had no zoning laws.
Houston has zero.
Check again. Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, Fort Worth, etc all have conventional zoning laws.
Fact: TEXAS has no statewide zoning laws.
Fact: Houston has zero city zoning laws.
Fact: My post above was 100% accurate.
DiabloWags said:BearlySane88 said:DiabloWags said:
Last time I checked, Texas literally had no zoning laws.
Houston has zero.
Check again. Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, Fort Worth, etc all have conventional zoning laws.
Fact: TEXAS has no statewide zoning laws.
Lmao that's not what your post said but okie dokie
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Now that this thread is on the OT board, I can say without hesitation: Bite me, Texas! If I were omnipotent, I would deactivate all air conditioning for three years, just to be able to laugh as states like Texas, Florida and Arizona lost most of their congressional seats. Then, I'd sell my house in the East Bay, as the property values would have gone way up. Then, I'd buy a now-cheap home in Austin or somewhere, before reactivating the AC. (Grifter stunts like this are known as "pulling a Trump", so it'd be fun to try it myself.)
Big C said:
Now that this thread is on the OT board, I can say without hesitation: Bite me, Texas! If I were omnipotent, I would deactivate all air conditioning for three years, just to be able to laugh as states like Texas, Florida and Arizona lost most of their congressional seats. Then, I'd sell my house in the East Bay, as the property values would have gone way up. Then, I'd buy a now-cheap home in Austin or somewhere, before reactivating the AC. (Grifter stunts like this are known as "pulling a Trump", so it'd be fun to try it myself.)
I don't know how people lived in those parts of the country before air conditioning. I can't take humidity. Drives me crazy. Too many years living in California.
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01Bear said:HateRed said:
I like CA a lot. It's just too expensive. I'm sorry you think it's a cesspool. It's not, as a matter of fact from Austin to The Piney Woods is beautiful and forested. Houston is built in a forest. If you dislike Texas for its politics, I do too. It's lethal here, but every state has it.
I went the other way around. I lived in Texas as a little kid, before moving to California, where I grew up. I have some fond memories of Texas, but am glad I left. I visited Texas for work a couple times in the early 2000s; I was glad for the trips back to Texas but even more glad to be flying back to California.
For one, humidity is not my friend. For another, the natural beauty of California dwarfs that found in Texas*. Also, California has all four seasons within driving distance.
Finally, the food scene in California is the best. I can have pastrami breakfast burritos in the morning, goulash for lunch, and doro wat for dinner followed by a nightcap of California wines. Don't get me wrong, Texas BBQ is the best and Texmex is also fantastic, but the melting pot of cuisines and cultures in California is nonpareil.
Sure, there's plenty California doesn't get quite right. The cost of living is also ridiculous! But overall, California is about as close to paradise as I've found.
*Is there anything to rival Yosemite? That's one of the most beautiful spots on God's green earth, IMHO.
Well I agree on the CA vs Texas comparison, especially the weather.
But CA doesn't have the best food scene in the world. Start with Italy. San Sebastin, France, etc.
And Yosemite is awesome, but it isn't the Grand Canyon, the Alps, the Great Ocean road, Patagonia, New Zealand Alps (think the Lord of the Ring Trilogy) and I could go on.
Nothing wrong with being a boomer for where you live, but let's not get crazy.
01Bear said:
Sure, there's plenty California doesn't get quite right. The cost of living is also ridiculous! But overall, California is about as close to paradise as I've found.
*Is there anything to rival Yosemite? That's one of the most beautiful spots on God's green earth, IMHO.
And if you enjoy driving a sportscar, CALIFORNIA has the greatest driving roads in the country.
Big C- While I appreciate your support for Cal, peripherally, this thinking is exactly why people leave this state and go to places like Texas, Tennessee, Idaho, and Florida, and why people in the rest of the country dislike Californians so much. I go to Texas every two years, and Tennessee on the alternate years. Only because of geography/topography I have taken Texas off my list of possible retirement destinations. But Tennessee is high on my list.
The problem is, too many Californians are leaving the state because of policies here, then go to other states and bring those same stupid policies that drove them out with them.
California is a beautiful state. But I've been out with some beautiful women that turned out to be ugly once I saw the nuanced part of them. California's nuanced sides have made a visually beautiful state into (as Steeley Span used to sing) "the ugliest witch in the north country".
As for high school football (what this thread was originally intended to be about), it is great to see how local communities in other states (even Oregon) support their local teams. Football is as important to local high schools as football is to a university. Maybe more so because the younger you can teach a young man about sacrifice, discipline, consequences based on performance, and doing something greater than self, the better.
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DiabloWags said:
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He didn't say there weren't good teams in California. If you're arguing the level of support for HS FB is the same in California as the states mentioned then you're highly confused.
Valid point, Diablo. And as you get more into the Central and/or rural parts of the state, there is more enthusiasm than what we see in the more urban/suburban areas (with notable exceptions such as DLS, Centennial, Mater Dei, OLU etc.).
But also, if you look at the social climates of those areas, you see a closer resemblance to the South/Midwest than you do in the more urban areas.
There is, at least to my mind, clearly a pattern to be seen.
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