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In reply to chazzed • 9:40p, 6/25/24
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"But when The Washington Post approached him, Wallace said he was a registered Democrat for pragmatic reasons. He said: 'The reason I'm a registered Democrat is that in Washington, D.C., there is really only one party. If you want a say in who's going to be the next mayor or councilman, you have to vote in the Democratic primary.'"
They know this and will make the argument that Wallace is left-wing anyway.
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6:52a, 6/26/24
Cancel my subscription to the Resurrection
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In reply to sycasey • 11:59a, 6/26/24
sycasey said:
chazzed said:
"But when The Washington Post approached him, Wallace said he was a registered Democrat for pragmatic reasons. He said: 'The reason I'm a registered Democrat is that in Washington, D.C., there is really only one party. If you want a say in who's going to be the next mayor or councilman, you have to vote in the Democratic primary.'"
They know this and will make the argument that Wallace is left-wing anyway.
You are probably correct. I just have a hard time believing that even more reasonable-seeming BI posters are willing to run cover for Trump.
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12:13p, 6/26/24

Rep Jamaal "I thought the fire alarm was a door knob" Bowman lost his reelection campaign.
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2:39p, 6/26/24
I seriously hate how lazy the MSM is about reporting on SCOTUS matters.
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In reply to bear2034 • 2:49p, 6/26/24
bear2034 said:

Rep Jamaal "I thought the fire alarm was a door knob" Bowman lost his reelection campaign.

AIPAC spent $15-20 million to oust him.



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3:42p, 6/26/24
Good, glad they did what it took to get rid of that piece of #$#$.
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In reply to tequila4kapp • 3:54p, 6/26/24
tequila4kapp said:
Good, glad they did what it took to get rid of that piece of #$#$.

That describes the majority of Congressmen. At least this one, warts and all, wasn't whoring for a foreign country.
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3:59p, 6/26/24

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In reply to Cal88 • 5:41p, 6/26/24
Cal88 said:
Just curious, in your opinion, are there any coups that aren't backed by the US?
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 6:08p, 6/26/24
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
Cal88 said:
Just curious, in your opinion, are there any coups that aren't backed by the US?

Not too many, especially in Latin America.

Sorry, but this is a very dumb question.

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6:47p, 6/26/24
That's because Russia doesn't bother with coups when invasion will do the trick.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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8:02p, 6/26/24
^ I guess the Russians need to "step up their game" and get into it, and try to keep up with the Jones...



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Top six countries with the largest lithium reserves in the world

1. Bolivia 21 million tonnes

One third of the "lithium triangle" in South America which also comprises second and third-placed Argentina and Chile Bolivia is home to the world's biggest lithium reserves.
With estimates of 21 million tonnes, the country holds about one quarter of the entire global resource including the world's single-biggest lithium deposit, the Salar de Uyuni salt flat, which is visible from space.

These reserves have remained largely undeveloped, however. Technical, geographic and political challenges have prevented Bolivia from maximising this huge natural resource.
Former president Evo Morales had pledged to accelerate the development of a Bolivian lithium industry, but he resigned from office in 2019 amid political instability.

His eventual successor, Luis Arce, is considered likely to resume these plans and make Bolivia "the lithium capital of the world", but his ability to successfully commercialise the resource remains to be seen.

https://www.nsenergybusiness.com/analysis/six-largest-lithium-reserves-world/?cf-view

And here's a little history lesson for you:


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8:58p, 6/26/24
Those are not exactly Walter Cronkite X sources, but at least they tell a story you like
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In reply to AunBear89 • 11:04p, 6/26/24
AunBear89 said:
That's because Russia doesn't bother with coups when invasion will do the trick.
Don't you think a coup would have been faster and less expensive, with fewer lives lost?
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In reply to SFCityBear • 11:26p, 6/26/24
But look at all these wonderful weapons. We spent the money. Let's use them!

This invasion and subsequent war make a nice showroom for all this lovely hardware and software. Defense contractors on both sides are planning on big earnings.
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In reply to tequila4kapp • 4:14a, 6/27/24
tequila4kapp said:
Those are not exactly Walter Cronkite X sources, but at least they tell a story you like

That story is much older than Cronkite, it's 200 years old, and it's called the Monroe Doctrine.

Have you heard about it on the CBS Evening News?
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9:30a, 6/27/24
Light fun.

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2:06p, 6/27/24

Tell me guys, what is love?
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In reply to 131 Days Til No Joe • 5:47p, 6/27/24
131 Days Til No Joe said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
Cal88 said:
Just curious, in your opinion, are there any coups that aren't backed by the US?
Before I answer, do I get to count the US backed coup of the US on January 6th as well?
I figured an answer from you would be unhinged and out of touch with reality.
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 5:54p, 6/27/24
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
131 Days Til No Joe said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
Cal88 said:
Just curious, in your opinion, are there any coups that aren't backed by the US?
Before I answer, do I get to count the US backed coup of the US on January 6th as well?
I figured an answer from you would be unhinged and out of touch with reality.


Didn't the Ukrainian prime minister in November 2013 warn that the US Embassy in Kiev had a tech camp project underway to organize protests, topple the government, and prepare for a civil war?

Also, is The National Endowment of Democracy actually an NGO if 99% of their funding is government grants?
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In reply to oski003 • 6:51p, 6/27/24
oski003 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
131 Days Til No Joe said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
Cal88 said:
Just curious, in your opinion, are there any coups that aren't backed by the US?
Before I answer, do I get to count the US backed coup of the US on January 6th as well?
I figured an answer from you would be unhinged and out of touch with reality.


Didn't the Ukrainian prime minister in November 2013 warn that the US Embassy in Kiev had a tech camp project underway to organize protests, topple the government, and prepare for a civil war?

Also, is The National Endowment of Democracy actually an NGO if 99% of their funding is government grants?
Is it true that Genghis Khan never ate Mongolian Beef?

Why didn't Mr. Rogers wear underwear?
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 9:29p, 6/27/24
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
oski003 said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
131 Days Til No Joe said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
Cal88 said:
Just curious, in your opinion, are there any coups that aren't backed by the US?
Before I answer, do I get to count the US backed coup of the US on January 6th as well?
I figured an answer from you would be unhinged and out of touch with reality.


Didn't the Ukrainian prime minister in November 2013 warn that the US Embassy in Kiev had a tech camp project underway to organize protests, topple the government, and prepare for a civil war?

Also, is The National Endowment of Democracy actually an NGO if 99% of their funding is government grants?
Is it true that Genghis Khan never ate Mongolian Beef?

Why didn't Mr. Rogers wear underwear?


This is the best I can to help with your questions. I am not sorry for trying to get your head out of the sand.

https://www.quora.com/What-did-Genghis-Khan-eat

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/story/2019-11-30/beautiful-day-neighborhood-is-a-great-movie-its-just-not-about-mister-rogers

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11:45a, 6/28/24
Popular gay porn star Austin Wolf arrested on child pornography charges. Charges soft.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/austin-wolf-arrested-child-pornography/5550436/
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10:43p, 6/28/24
Tucker Carlson roasts Woke reporter.

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2:23a, 6/30/24

It's happening. NBC reports discussions are underway for Joe Biden to not run for reelection.
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5:40p, 6/30/24
US military on alert in the EU.

https://www.wdsu.com/article/us-military-bases-in-europe-heightened-alert-possible-terrorist-threat/61463398
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9:00p, 6/30/24
French blogger Bertrand summarizes well today's elections results in France:

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9:11a, 7/1/24
Fox News: Trump touts Supreme Court's presidential immunity ruling as 'big win for our Constitution and for democracy'

Supreme Court rules Trump immune from criminal prosecution for 'official acts'

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-touts-supreme-courts-presidential-immunity-ruling-big-win-our-constitution-democracy
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In reply to movielover • 9:31a, 7/1/24
movielover said:
Fox News: Trump touts Supreme Court's presidential immunity ruling as 'big win for our Constitution and for democracy'

Supreme Court rules Trump immune from criminal prosecution for 'official acts'

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-touts-supreme-courts-presidential-immunity-ruling-big-win-our-constitution-democracy
I am reading the opinion now. Conceptually I'm on board with the legal notion that official acts are covered by immunity. EG, Obama decided to kill an American terrorist without a trial. Official act, no criminality. Fine. But there are some details that are potentially troubling. Back to reading...
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In reply to tequila4kapp • 9:35a, 7/1/24
tequila4kapp said:
movielover said:
Fox News: Trump touts Supreme Court's presidential immunity ruling as 'big win for our Constitution and for democracy'

Supreme Court rules Trump immune from criminal prosecution for 'official acts'

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-touts-supreme-courts-presidential-immunity-ruling-big-win-our-constitution-democracy
I am reading the opinion now. Conceptually I'm on board with the legal notion that official acts are covered by immunity. EG, Obama decided to kill an American terrorist without a trial. Official act, no criminality. Fine. But there are some details that are potentially troubling. Back to reading...
It does seem like it could be a bit of a mess determining what is "official" and what isn't. A former president could argue that all kinds of illegal things were "official." But maybe that's just the legal system for you.
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In reply to tequila4kapp • 9:47a, 7/1/24
tequila4kapp said:
movielover said:
Fox News: Trump touts Supreme Court's presidential immunity ruling as 'big win for our Constitution and for democracy'

Supreme Court rules Trump immune from criminal prosecution for 'official acts'

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-touts-supreme-courts-presidential-immunity-ruling-big-win-our-constitution-democracy
I am reading the opinion now. Conceptually I'm on board with the legal notion that official acts are covered by immunity. EG, Obama decided to kill an American terrorist without a trial. Official act, no criminality. Fine. But there are some details that are potentially troubling. Back to reading...
The main objection I hear is how difficult this will make the prosecution.

I think it is generally accepted that there should be immunity for official acts of the president. However, the complaint is that having the lower courts have to do their job and determine whether an act is official or not will take time and be hard. Another complaint is that not getting access to information related to official actions will make prosecution of a president hard.

Maybe hard should not be the reason for not doing the right thing. The danger of presidents being prosecuted for political reason when he/she was discharging their official duties is worth the higher level of difficulty.

Due process is hard. Presumption of innocence in criminal cases is hard. Ignoring fruits of a poisonous tree is hard. But it's the right thing to do. Diplomatic immunity is hard.

I think this is hard but this is the right result. Imagine Trump winning and having easy access to prosecute Biden for Afghanistan, etc. Glad we are not just bunch of idiots who cannot see anything long-term.

I still think treatment of classified information after the presidency and federal election interference cases are not official actions, but this protects against a special prosecutor appointed during the next administration having unfettered access to classified information related to official actions and second guessing and using for prosecution actions taken to discharge official duties as the president.
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In reply to sycasey • 9:48a, 7/1/24
sycasey said:

It does seem like it could be a bit of a mess determining what is "official" and what isn't. A former president could argue that all kinds of illegal things were "official." But maybe that's just the legal system for you.
There is like 16 pages of decision covering just that. I have not reached it yet.

There are lines saying the courts cannot consider the President's intent and cannot rely on evidence from advisors (probably a bad summary by me). Things that make you go HMMM...
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In reply to tequila4kapp • 10:41a, 7/1/24
tequila4kapp said:
sycasey said:

It does seem like it could be a bit of a mess determining what is "official" and what isn't. A former president could argue that all kinds of illegal things were "official." But maybe that's just the legal system for you.
There is like 16 pages of decision covering just that. I have not reached it yet.

There are lines saying the courts cannot consider the President's intent and cannot rely on evidence from advisors (probably a bad summary by me). Things that make you go HMMM...
Seems like you would have joined with Barrett in her partial concurrence. I think her position is stronger than the majority.
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11:02a, 7/1/24
The Hill: Live updates: Supreme Court rules Trump has presumptive criminal immunity for official acts

"In a monumental decision Monday, the Supreme Court ruled that former presidents enjoy a presumption of criminal immunity for official acts while in the White House, handing a win to former President Trump.

"The move is likely to delay Trump's federal election subversion case in Washington, D.C. by sending the case back to a lower court to decide whether his actions on Jan. 6 merit protection from criminal prosecution for decisions he made while in the White House."

Eric Holder is losing his mind, which bodes well.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4728551-trump-presidential-immunity-supreme-court/
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