MinotStateBeav said:
Democrats really are a hilarious species of bipeds....BREAKING: San Francisco Mayor signs bill to give Black residents $5 million each in reparations — but allocates $0 to the initiative.
— Polymarket (@Polymarket) January 1, 2026
tequila4kapp said:
Is that type of improper behavior supposed to be a proxy for slavery reparations? I think this distinction matters because it impacts who would get compensated and for what.
DiabloWags said:
For people that are ignorant when it comes to the City of San Francisco and REDLINING:
Bayview Hunters Point
Western Addition
History of Redlining in San Francisco Neighborhoods - FoundSF
MinotStateBeav said:tequila4kapp said:
I like your answer in part because it is similar to mine...my paternal g/father didn't immigrate hear until the 1930s, my maternal g/mother was born and raised on the Cherokee reservation, and they both in a way that pretty much means slave ownership didn't happen. (And I would add for myself...even if one of them did own a slave, I feel zero guilt, duty or obligation for what some person I never knew did 200 year ago. That isn't my responsibility).
It may be helpful context to the general discussion to note that in 1860 only 1-2% of Americans owned a slave.
Kind of cool crossover, mine was a great great great grandma who was Cherokee on my dads side. I don't believe they lived on the rez though, I think they lived in Salina, OK.
BearlySane88 said:DiabloWags said:
For people that are ignorant when it comes to the City of San Francisco and REDLINING:
Bayview Hunters Point
Western Addition
History of Redlining in San Francisco Neighborhoods - FoundSF
We aren't responsible for redlining any more than we are responsible for slavery.
They are bad moments of our countries history but trying to fix it by dolling out money isn't the answer.
DiabloWags said:BearlySane88 said:DiabloWags said:
For people that are ignorant when it comes to the City of San Francisco and REDLINING:
Bayview Hunters Point
Western Addition
History of Redlining in San Francisco Neighborhoods - FoundSF
We aren't responsible for redlining any more than we are responsible for slavery.
They are bad moments of our countries history but trying to fix it by dolling out money isn't the answer.
My post didn't have anything to do with responsibility.
I was simply explaining the basis for this specific piece of legislation, which several posters here confused with SLAVERY because they didn't bother to do anything but jump to conclusions.
DiabloWags said:
For people that are ignorant when it comes to the City of San Francisco and REDLINING:
Bayview Hunters Point
Western Addition
History of Redlining in San Francisco Neighborhoods - FoundSF
DiabloWags said:BearlySane88 said:DiabloWags said:
For people that are ignorant when it comes to the City of San Francisco and REDLINING:
Bayview Hunters Point
Western Addition
History of Redlining in San Francisco Neighborhoods - FoundSF
We aren't responsible for redlining any more than we are responsible for slavery.
They are bad moments of our countries history but trying to fix it by dolling out money isn't the answer.
My post didn't have anything to do with responsibility.
I was simply explaining the basis for this specific piece of legislation, which several posters here confused with SLAVERY because they didn't bother to do anything but jump to conclusions.
DiabloWags said:MinotStateBeav said:concordtom said:MinotStateBeav said:
Democrats really are a hilarious species of bipeds....BREAKING: San Francisco Mayor signs bill to give Black residents $5 million each in reparations — but allocates $0 to the initiative.
— Polymarket (@Polymarket) January 1, 2026
Oh yeah?
And what are you?
By the way, have you ever seen that show Finding Your Roots?
It's pretty cool.
Have you ever looked into your ancestors' lives? Do you know if your great great grandparents were slave owners? Have you reconciled to how the advantages they enjoyed trickled down to you, and how the disadvantages their enslaved people trickled down to their descendants today?
I'm not saying I agree with this SF reparations bit - I don't - but one has to be an incredibly daft crotch to make the preceding post!
Considering half my family didn't arrive until right before WWII kicked off as Germans who lived in Russia, I'm guessing they didn't have slaves. The other half were Germans/English and later native american that arrived in the 1800s I still have the tin type family photo, they were poor living in Oklahoma working the oil fields. I know where my family came from and can speak confidently enough we had nothing to do with slavery, like most americans. Only 1.6% of Americans owned a slave when it was legal.
Ummmmm..... I have no idea why you are talking about slavery and slave ownership.
It has nothing to do with the reparations legislation signed into law by the Mayor of San Francisco.
Do you not understand what "redlining" is?
I would suggest you actually read the legislation authored by Supervisor Shamann Walton:
AARAC_Reparations_Final_Report_July_7_2023.pdf
2025_12_16***STATEMENT: SAN FRANCISCO ESTABLISHES THE REPARATIONS FUND***
tequila4kapp said:
We captured Maduro?
What is our legal justification for doing this?
What is the US National interest that justifies a military action like this?
tequila4kapp said:
We captured Maduro?
What is our legal justification for doing this?
What is the US National interest that justifies a military action like this?
DiabloWags said:
So much for America First.
The Peace President!
BearlySane88 said:DiabloWags said:
So much for America First.
The Peace President!
Ask any Venezuelan American how they feel this morning
DiabloWags said:BearlySane88 said:DiabloWags said:
So much for America First.
The Peace President!
Ask any Venezuelan American how they feel this morning
So you are supporting this military action on a sovereign nation without authorization by Congress?
Yes or No.
BearlySane88 said:DiabloWags said:BearlySane88 said:DiabloWags said:
So much for America First.
The Peace President!
Ask any Venezuelan American how they feel this morning
So you are supporting this military action on a sovereign nation without authorization by Congress?
Yes or No.
Not saying I support it or not but Trump didn't need congressional approval just like Obama didn't need approval when striking Syria, or getting Osama, or in Libya, or Clinton in Kosovo, or Sudan. Article II powers.
I certainly don't love it and the power vacuum it probably creates now but I am very happy for the people of Venezuela who have suffered for far too long. My partner is Venezuelan and they are over the moon excited.
DiabloWags said:
And as expected, here comes the "whataboutism"
There are at most, 23,000 American citizens in Venezuela. Funny how this is even a talking point.
Never mind WHO is running the country now.
Does anyone know?
Of course not.
Trump talks tough on Venezuela, but admires thugs and dictators like Nicolas Maduro.
— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) June 22, 2020
As President, I will stand with the Venezuelan people and for democracy. https://t.co/eUt28UxyXS
🇺🇸🇻🇪 | URGENTE — PRIMERA FOTO OFICIAL DE NICOLAS MADURO CAPTURADO POR LAS FUERZAS DE LOS ESTADOS UNIDOS. pic.twitter.com/bx6GbPVxHM
— Agustín Antonetti (@agusantonetti) January 3, 2026
Thousands of Venezuelans gather to celebrate the fall of Maduro after decades of oppression...pic.twitter.com/WWUFbwpiWF
— Defiant L’s (@DefiantLs) January 3, 2026
🇻🇪I’m in tears. In the middle of the night, a husband woke his wife just to tell her that President Trump had confirmed Maduro’s capture, a moment they never thought they would witness. pic.twitter.com/XC09r2Hzl7
— I Meme Therefore I Am 🇺🇸 (@ImMeme0) January 3, 2026
Si no eres venezolano y estás haciendo eco sobre que nos van a invadir y quitar el petróleo:
— Luna🌜 📍Floripa 🇧🇷➡️🌎 (@Lunaticanto) January 3, 2026
1) El petróleo de Venezuela HACE AÑOS que no nos pertenece
2) NO NOS IMPORTA EL ESTÚPIDO PETRÓLEO, nos importa nuestra familia, tener comida en la mesa y vivir dignamente
No lo…
Venezuela opposition leader Maria Corina Machado: "We are ready to take over government" Per Bloomberg pic.twitter.com/hvIOGBelRS
— OSZ (@OpenSourceZone) January 3, 2026
DiabloWags said:
Is CANADA next?
We could really use their oil.
tequila4kapp said:dajo9 said:
No worries, Tom - my kids are taking up the slack for getting Bs and Cs. My high school aged son has actually started a part-time tradeschool program and is looking at the community college route. School is not his thing and I hope he doesn't skip out on community college.
This was my other kid. The Airforce has been FABULOUS for him. There are so many benefits - hard and soft - that I would encourage you/him to take a look.
tequila4kapp said:
Today matters. What exactly do we say to Russia about Ukraine and China about Taiwan?
dajo9 said:
Today is an example of why I would never encourage my son to join the U.S. military. I didn't raise him to risk his life as a poorly paid mercenary of corporate America.
tequila4kapp said:
Today matters. What exactly do we say to Russia about Ukraine and China about Taiwan?
tequila4kapp said:
Today matters. What exactly do we say to Russia about Ukraine and China about Taiwan?
tequila4kapp said:dajo9 said:
Today is an example of why I would never encourage my son to join the U.S. military. I didn't raise him to risk his life as a poorly paid mercenary of corporate America.
I think the entire topic becomes a reflection of our existing beliefs. To the extent I had any control of what my adult kid decided I felt a lot more comfortable with him joining under Trump than Biden.
The reality is my kid is in a particular role that (pray / knock on wood) should be fairly safe. But being a military family...I definitely have a new consideration for the families of people who are actually in harms way.
bearister said:tequila4kapp said:dajo9 said:
Today is an example of why I would never encourage my son to join the U.S. military. I didn't raise him to risk his life as a poorly paid mercenary of corporate America.
I think the entire topic becomes a reflection of our existing beliefs. To the extent I had any control of what my adult kid decided I felt a lot more comfortable with him joining under Trump than Biden.
The reality is my kid is in a particular role that (pray / knock on wood) should be fairly safe. But being a military family...I definitely have a new consideration for the families of people who are actually in harms way.
Do you think any of Trump's sons will volunteer the foreign adventurism?
