movielover said:

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So let's get this straight, a man in his underwear manages to elude security cameras, Scale a wall & elude security guards and dogs,breaks into a home without setting an alarm off but is somehow captured with a hammer because of a wellness check at 2am. Fishy Pelosi Story Right?

— Terrence K. Williams (@w_terrence) October 29, 2022

[And he let Paul use the head w his phone.]

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Hey, movielover, are you also a believer in the cat litter theory?

sycasey said:

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okaydo said:

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movielover said:

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So let's get this straight, a man in his underwear manages to elude security cameras, Scale a wall & elude security guards and dogs,breaks into a home without setting an alarm off but is somehow captured with a hammer because of a wellness check at 2am. Fishy Pelosi Story Right?

— Terrence K. Williams (@w_terrence) October 29, 2022

[And he let Paul use the head w his phone.]

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Hey, movielover, are you also a believer in the cat litter theory?

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Seems like he enjoys the output of someone called "catturd" on Twitter, so I'm going to say yes.

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To be honest, I'm not all that surprised.
You should see his posts over at the Aggies message board.

Debunking statements.

1. It was a local station KTVU that posted the description - there are others.

KTVU title: "Alleged Pelosi intruder found in underwear when police arrived, sources say" 1 day ago. Two hours later, they changed the header though the original title comes up on searches.

2. Michael Schellenberger (D) went to his Berkeley house:

"And, as I discovered yesterday, DePape lived with a notorious local nudist in a Berkeley home, complete with a Black Lives Matter sign in the window and an LGBT rainbow flag, emblazoned with a marijuana symbol, hanging from a tree. A closer look reveals the characteristics of a homeless encampment, or what Europeans call "an open drug scene." In the driveway, there is a broken-down camper van. On the street is a yellow school bus, which neighbors said DePape occasionally stayed in. Both are filled with garbage typical of such structures in homeless encampments. People come and go from the house and the vehicles, neighbors say, in part to partake in the use of a potent psychedelic drug, ibogaine."

3. Nothing MAGA.

4. Nudist druggy man didn't try to "kill the Speaker of the House" - she wasn't there.

5. We might have more clarity if we knew who the 3rd person was in the house (opened the door for the police), why Mr. Pelosi knew the homeless nudist hippy attackers name, and if security footage was released.

Given there were so many false statements in the video posted, I stopped watching it after 2 minutes.

https://michaelshellenberger.substack.com/p/pelosi-attack-suspect-was-a-psychotic

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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movielover said:

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My firm served a lawsuit against Paul Pelosi one time in SF after attempting to serve at other residences—Napa, Georgetown. They weren’t home, but staff were, & multiple law enforcement officers were on the perimeter. Break-in is odd given this level of security.

— Harmeet K. Dhillon (@pnjaban) October 28, 2022

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Obviously, they let the hammer attack happen to gain sympathy for Democratic candidates around the country. Damn noble of Paul Pelosi! What an amazing false flag operation!

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Well, it explains a grown a$$ man in his underwear, likely on drugs as he is a drug fiend, in your house at 2 AM, allegedly an intruder, yet Mr. Pelosi, known to drink too much, knows his friend's name. So how does he know the intruder? And a 3rd person is there.

Unexplained is why broken glass from an intruder breaking INTO the house, would be OUTSIDE the house.

You would think at 82 Mr. Pelosi and his charged cell phone would be upstairs in the master bedroom.

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For starters, he wasn't in his underwear. See the correction here:
https://www.ktvu.com/news/alleged-pelosi-intruder-has-manifesto-of-conspiracy-theories-sources

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It was a local station KTVU that posted the description - there are others.

KTVU title: "Alleged Pelosi intruder found in underwear when police arrived, sources say" 1 day ago. Two hours later, they changed the header though the original title comes up on searches.

So the writer got it wrong?

1. Release the body cam footage police are required to have.

2. Epstein Watch for the young man. Innocent until proven guilty. He needs a good attorney.

Bolsonaro out. Let's see if he accepts the result.

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— Folha de S.Paulo (@folha) October 30, 2022

movielover said:

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If the bedroom is upstairs, why charge it downstairs in the water closet?

Lock the bathroom door, call police, and they'll be there in 2 minutes or less.

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I leave my phone charging in a room other than my bedroom. It's not that strange.

movielover said:

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If the bedroom is upstairs, why charge it downstairs in the water closet?

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What difference does it make where he charges his phone and why are you so obsessed about this? Can't an octogenarian injured in a middle of the night by a hammer attack just be the victim without you insinuating that somehow Paul Pelosi bears some of the blame?

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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movielover said:

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If the bedroom is upstairs, why charge it downstairs in the water closet?

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What difference does it make where he charges his phone and why are you so obsessed about this? Can't an octogenarian injured in a middle of the night by a hammer attack just be the victim without you insinuating that somehow Paul Pelosi bears some of the blame?

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It's clear that he's unable to feel any kind of humanity whatsoever.
He's still trying to blame Paul Pelosi for being brutally attacked by an intruder into the Pelosi home.
It's like watching Bruce "Katelyn" Jenner blame the Pelosi's for not having adequate security.

Let's face it.
The "conspiracy" theories are woefully prevalent in Movie Lover's posting history.
He's not even a Cal alum. I dont even know why he's "here".

My heart goes out to Paul and Nancy Pelosi.
No one should ever have to experience that.
But the Trumper's who stormed our Capitol looking for "Nancy" clearly couldnt care any less.

They're evil.

DiabloWags said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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movielover said:

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If the bedroom is upstairs, why charge it downstairs in the water closet?

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What difference does it make where he charges his phone and why are you so obsessed about this? Can't an octogenarian injured in a middle of the night by a hammer attack just be the victim without you insinuating that somehow Paul Pelosi bears some of the blame?

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It's clear that he's unable to feel any kind of humanity whatsoever.

He's still trying to blame Paul Pelosi for being brutally attacked by an intruder into the Pelosi home.
It's like watching Bruce "Katelyn" Jenner blame the Pelosi's for not having adequate security.

Let's face it.
The "conspiracy" theories are woefully prevalent in Movie Lover's posting history.
He's not even a Cal alum. I dont even know why he's "here".

My heart goes out to Paul and Nancy Pelosi.
No one should ever have to experience that.
But the Trumper's who stormed our Capitol looking for "Nancy" clearly couldnt care any less.

They're evil.

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At 11:24, Movielover wrote: "Hopefully a speedy recovery for Mr. Pelosi."

I'm sure you don't have the class to apologize for your mistatement.

In case you are wondering how radicalized conservatives like movielover come to amplify baseless conspiracy theories, it's a predictable result of their desire for and susceptibility to this sort of garbage.

2. Over decades, the right built a parallel media ecosystem featuring:

A) Numerous outlets that generate conspiracy theories
B) Food-chain mechanisms for their distribution
C) An audience that demands them
D) Minimal internal guardrails
E) Barriers against outside media.

— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) October 30, 2022

This is very bad for the right because those conspiracy theories are either trumpeted or excused at the highest levels of the right-wing media and GOP. They needed to come up with something else, fast. https://t.co/RZrd9t3TZl

— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) October 30, 2022

6. A) An initial, subsequently retracted local news report that the assailant was in his underwear when police arrived. https://t.co/BzexbzrAfW

— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) October 30, 2022

8. The right’s conspiracy theorists put those two pieces together, threw in some wild and baseless speculation, and came up with the theory that Pelosi was the victim of a gay lover’s quarrel.

— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) October 30, 2022

10. The site Musk pushed out is not remotely credible, but it reaches a conclusion that is extremely convenient for the right, and that's good enough. https://t.co/kAoFCgZQUw

— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) October 30, 2022

12. The right-wing press has spent decades building a huge audience for these sorts of convenient conspiracy theories. And their regular denunciations of the mainstream press built a bubble to keep out reality – only the right’s commentators can be trusted.

— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) October 30, 2022

14. So what happens next? I’d expect to see GOP lawmakers and prominent Fox hosts at least winking at the Pelosi conspiracy theory. Someone like Marjorie Taylor Greene or Tucker Carlson might even go all-in, probably with a “why don’t they want us asking questions” frame.

— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) October 30, 2022

16. There's not much that can be done for the people who will buy into this.

But what can be done is punishing Musk for his role in the fiasco. https://t.co/dKQKhm7SZJ

— Matthew Gertz (@MattGertz) October 30, 2022