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She's a child. "Professionals" started her down this path when she was 13, 14? There should be massive lawsuits across the nation.

Apparently these "experts" have never heard of puberty, hormones, adolescence, insecurities, and that the brain allegedly doesn't fully develop until 25?

Decades ago I met a Stanford surgeon who ocassionally performed these surgeries, on adults, after years and years of counseling.
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movielover said:

She's a child. "Professionals" started her down this path when she was 13, 14? There should be lawsuits across the nation.

Apparently these "experts" have never heard of puberty, hormones, adolescence, insecurities, and that the brain allegedly doesn't fully develop until 25?


She should blame her parents. Schools, hospitals, government cannot replace good parenting. Fabrics of society starts with strong family unit, and I am frankly tired of weak parents not taking responsibility for their parenting and blaming schools and strangers and using the court system to bring frivolous lawsuits. The parents should have just said no, you are too young to make such permanent choices at your age. It is not the role of doctors, teachers or government to overreach and take the place of parents.
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calbear93 said:

okaydo said:




It was all as she had prophesied.


One of my favorite Doors' songs:



*Jim Morrison completed his undergraduate degree at UCLA's film school within the Theater Arts department of the College of Fine Arts in 1965.[35] Refusing to attend the graduation ceremony, he went to Venice Beach, Los Angeles, and the university mailed his diploma to his mother in Coronado, California." Wikipedia
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bearister said:

calbear93 said:

okaydo said:




It was all as she had prophesied.


One of my favorite Doors' songs:



*Jim Morrison completed his undergraduate degree at UCLA's film school within the Theater Arts department of the College of Fine Arts in 1965.[35] Refusing to attend the graduation ceremony, he went to Venice Beach, Los Angeles, and the university mailed his diploma to his mother in Coronado, California." Wikipedia



Jim Morrison always seemed more like a Bear than a Bruin.
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movielover said:

Decades ago I met a Stanford surgeon who ocassionally performed these surgeries, on adults, after years and years of counseling.


I can confirm. A family member works in the OR and these surgeries are in their specialty area. It used to be the case that sex change surgeries were only allowed following substantial counseling. It was not quick; I'm aware of people who were denied because of whatever happened on the mental health front.
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calbear93 said:

bearister said:

calbear93 said:

okaydo said:




It was all as she had prophesied.


One of my favorite Doors' songs:



*Jim Morrison completed his undergraduate degree at UCLA's film school within the Theater Arts department of the College of Fine Arts in 1965.[35] Refusing to attend the graduation ceremony, he went to Venice Beach, Los Angeles, and the university mailed his diploma to his mother in Coronado, California." Wikipedia



Jim Morrison always seemed more like a Bear than a Bruin.


In 1957, Morrison attended Alameda High School in Alameda, California, for his freshman and first semester of his sophomore year when his dad, an Admiral, was posted at the Naval Air Station. Wikipedia

Another solid Doors song:


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Warning: graphic content.



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SFist: Crypto Giant FTX's Massive Implosion Likely Means Curtains for Cal's $17.5 million Stadium Naming Rights Deal
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calbear93 said:

movielover said:

She's a child. "Professionals" started her down this path when she was 13, 14? There should be lawsuits across the nation.

Apparently these "experts" have never heard of puberty, hormones, adolescence, insecurities, and that the brain allegedly doesn't fully develop until 25?

She should blame her parents. Schools, hospitals, government cannot replace good parenting. Fabrics of society starts with strong family unit, and I am frankly tired of weak parents not taking responsibility for their parenting and blaming schools and strangers and using the court system to bring frivolous lawsuits. The parents should have just said no, you are too young to make such permanent choices at your age. It is not the role of doctors, teachers or government to overreach and take the place of parents.

In many parts of the country, parents don't have a say in their children's indoctrination and mutilation process.



In Washington state for instance, 13yo children can receive "gender-affirming" care without their parents' consent:
https://wng.org/roundups/washington-erasing-parents-from-the-equation-1617220589

CPS could threaten to have the child removed from parental custody if a parent interferes with this process:

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The age at which minors in Washington state can receive "gender-affirming care" without parental permission is 13. In other words, the e-mails Ahmed received from the hospital were effectively a courtesy; the hospital didn't require Ahmed's permission to begin his son Syed on a path to medical transition.

But Ahmed's cool head prevailed. Believing he might be walking into a trap, Ahmed reached out to a psychiatrist friend he trusted. The psychiatrist gave him advice that he believes saved his son: "You have to be very, very careful because if you come across as just even a little bit anti-trans or anything, they're going to call the Child Protective Services on you and take custody of your kid."
Ahmed assured Seattle Children's Hospital that he would take Syed to a gender clinic and commence his son's transition. Instead, he collected his son, quit his job and moved his family of four out of Washington.

Taken individually, no single law in any state completely strips parents' rights over the mental-health treatment of their troubled minor teens. But pieced together, laws in California, Oregon and Washington place troubled teens as young as 13 in the driver's seat when it comes to their own mental-health care including "gender affirming" care and renders parents powerless to stop them.

Here, for instance, are the powers granted to a 13-year-old child by the state of Washington: She can admit herself for inpatient and outpatient mental-health treatment without parental consent. She can withhold mental-health records from her parents for "sensitive" conditions, such as gender issues. And insurers in Washington must cover a wide array of "gender-affirming treatments" from tracheal shaves to double mastectomies.

Put these together, and a seventh-grader could be entitled to embark on sex transition which may include preparing to receive a course of hormones without her parents' permission, against her parents' wishes, covered by her parents' insurance and with the parents kept in the dark by insurance companies and medical providers.

Following up on Ahmed's family, I spoke in May with Syed's therapist, an autism expert, who confirmed that Syed is no longer suicidal; nor does he believe he is transgender. He's a brilliant 17-year-old autistic boy, doing advanced work in philosophy

https://nypost.com/2021/06/09/lunatic-laws-let-gender-radicals-deny-all-parental-rights/

Further reading here:
https://www.city-journal.org/transgender-identifying-adolescents-threats-to-parental-rights

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movielover said:

DiabloWags said:

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Ouch! He's toast. He'll never be able to defend that in court.

Exactly.
And the fact that he's gone on a Twitter diatribe just goes to show you that he lacks common sense.

As I posted back in April when he was worth north of $20 Billion, his challenge was gonna be to DE-RISK himself.
Instead, he did the exact OPPOSITE.



Stoner?

I thought someone would comment on "fat" or "dork".
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Warning: graphic content.





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Cat fight in tRumpworld:

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Hopefully, republicans dont stop being obsessed with lgbtq issues.

It looks like a winning issue.

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EDITED

Christopher F. Rufo @realchrisrufo

1h
BREAKING:

"Parents in Dearborn, Michigan, are revolting against pornographic books in school libraries.

"A mom reads a passage from the book "Flamed": "We're each bustin' a load in this bottle. If you don't ***, you have to drink it."
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movielover said:

EDITED

Christopher F. Rufo @realchrisrufo

1h
BREAKING:

"Parents in Dearborn, Michigan, are revolting against pornographic books in school libraries.

"A mom reads a passage from the book "Flamed": "We're each bustin' a load in this bottle. If you don't ***, you have to drink it."
That's almost as bad as some of the stuff in the bible!
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San Francisco Bay Area is fastest-growing urban area in the country - Axios San Francisco


https://www.axios.com/local/san-francisco/2022/11/15/san-francisco-bay-area-economic-growth
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San Francisco Bay Area is fastest-growing urban area in the country - Axios San Francisco


https://www.axios.com/local/san-francisco/2022/11/15/san-francisco-bay-area-economic-growth

True.

And it's the primary reason why our roads and freeways are jammed everyday starting at 3PM.
In fact, Ygnacio Valley Rd looks like a Monday morning when its 10am on a Saturday.
I dont know how people put up with these commutes.
It's brutal.

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Looks like the Bay Area is going to go through a sharp economic down cycle:

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Useless without percentages. And not all tech employees are based in Bay Area. And not all tech companies are based in Bay Area.


Other than these three strikes, great post! /s

Stick to fluffing Putin - you are much better at that.
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Useless without percentages. And not all tech employees are based in Bay Area. And not all tech companies are based in Bay Area.


Other than these three strikes, great post! /s

Stick to fluffing Putin - you are much better at that.

It's genuinely hard to believe that this guy went to Cal.

Never mind that CALIFORNIA is about to become the 4th LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD.
Surpassing Germany.

California's economy could become the 4th largest in the world (ktla.com)
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AunBear89 said:

Useless without percentages. And not all tech employees are based in Bay Area. And not all tech companies are based in Bay Area.


Other than these three strikes, great post! /s

Stick to fluffing Putin - you are much better at that.
Yup - only about a quarter of Meta layoffs were in California. Snap and Amazon aren't in the bay area. Twitter is fully remote and we likely will never know where the people live. A lot of these companies have meaningful international employee bases as well. It's really quite different from the dotcom bust.

What most people outside of tech probably don't realize is that hiring is still BRUTAL. The competition for talent is ridiculous and I suspect that just about every engineer laid off will be able to find a good job when they want to go back to work. The biggest change is that most big companies are freezing hiring, so the arms race won't continue and we won't see salaries climb. I've seen no hint that compensation will be dropping.

I do think that we're entering a very rocky period for the tech ecosystem and that we're going to see plenty of companies fail or get bought on the cheap with venture funding harder to come by. We're also going to see meaningfully lower valuations, down rounds, etc. which will impact morale and personal balance sheets.

I can't predict how it will impact real estate prices and other assets because the bay area is still very much in demand and we aren't building new housing stock, but I've already seen a meaningful improvement in the market for buyers.


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Next time any GOPer complains about the liberal media or mainstream media, remember that there is nothing even remotely close to the relationship enjoyed by Fox News and the GOP.

The fact that Rupert Murdoch acts as kingmaker for the GOP (regardless of the fact that he's a moron if he thinks he can take the GOP away from Trump) is as damaging to our democracy as anything the GOP accuses anyone else of.



More here.

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Last week, Murdoch's influential media empire, including right-leaning Fox News, his flagship paper the Wall Street Journal, and the New York Post, each rounded on Trump, calling him a loser and a flop responsible for dragging the Republicans into "one political fiasco after another".

"We have been clear with Donald. There have been conversations between them during which Rupert made it clear to Donald that we cannot back another run for the White House," a senior News Corp source told the i newspaper.

Trump, who is expected to announce his intention to run for president again in 2024 in a much-hyped TV appearance on Tuesday night in the US, has accused Murdoch of going "all in" to support DeSantis, 44, whom he has called an "average Republican governor" and has nicknamed "Ron DeSanctimonious".

Lachlan Murdoch, the heir apparent and eldest son, who co-chairs News Corp and runs the parent company of Fox News, has reportedly told DeSantis that the group would back him if he ran in the next election. "Lachlan has been keen on Ron for some time," said the i's source. "He's viewed within the organisation as a sanitised version of Donald."
Remember this next time some BI conservative tells you that CNN is liberal or that the media is in cahoots with Biden and the democrats. Nothing is even close to the explicit relationship with Murdoch's media empire.
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Unit2Sucks said:


Remember this next time some BI conservative tells you that CNN is liberal or that the media is in cahoots with Biden and the democrats. Nothing is even close to the explicit relationship with Murdoch's media empire.


Bingo!
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Unit2Sucks said:

Next time any GOPer complains about the liberal media or mainstream media, remember that there is nothing even remotely close to the relationship enjoyed by Fox News and the GOP.

The fact that Rupert Murdoch acts as kingmaker for the GOP (regardless of the fact that he's a moron if he thinks he can take the GOP away from Trump) is as damaging to our democracy as anything the GOP accuses anyone else of.



More here.

Quote:

Last week, Murdoch's influential media empire, including right-leaning Fox News, his flagship paper the Wall Street Journal, and the New York Post, each rounded on Trump, calling him a loser and a flop responsible for dragging the Republicans into "one political fiasco after another".

"We have been clear with Donald. There have been conversations between them during which Rupert made it clear to Donald that we cannot back another run for the White House," a senior News Corp source told the i newspaper.

Trump, who is expected to announce his intention to run for president again in 2024 in a much-hyped TV appearance on Tuesday night in the US, has accused Murdoch of going "all in" to support DeSantis, 44, whom he has called an "average Republican governor" and has nicknamed "Ron DeSanctimonious".

Lachlan Murdoch, the heir apparent and eldest son, who co-chairs News Corp and runs the parent company of Fox News, has reportedly told DeSantis that the group would back him if he ran in the next election. "Lachlan has been keen on Ron for some time," said the i's source. "He's viewed within the organisation as a sanitised version of Donald."
Remember this next time some BI conservative tells you that CNN is liberal or that the media is in cahoots with Biden and the democrats. Nothing is even close to the explicit relationship with Murdoch's media empire.

Trump's run began on CNN with free media via interviews (with Don Lemon, IIRC).

CNN isn't crazy liberal anymore. At least to my eyes it is watchable again, which I really appreciate. (Thank you to the recent firings)

Fox News is WAY less right wing than it used to be. Paul Ryan joined the board. Murdoch's kids took more prominent roles. Get past the individual commentary shows and you really see it vs X number of years ago.
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Cal88 said:

calbear93 said:

movielover said:

She's a child. "Professionals" started her down this path when she was 13, 14? There should be lawsuits across the nation.

Apparently these "experts" have never heard of puberty, hormones, adolescence, insecurities, and that the brain allegedly doesn't fully develop until 25?

She should blame her parents. Schools, hospitals, government cannot replace good parenting. Fabrics of society starts with strong family unit, and I am frankly tired of weak parents not taking responsibility for their parenting and blaming schools and strangers and using the court system to bring frivolous lawsuits. The parents should have just said no, you are too young to make such permanent choices at your age. It is not the role of doctors, teachers or government to overreach and take the place of parents.

In many parts of the country, parents don't have a say in their children's indoctrination and mutilation process.



In Washington state for instance, 13yo children can receive "gender-affirming" care without their parents' consent:
https://wng.org/roundups/washington-erasing-parents-from-the-equation-1617220589

CPS could threaten to have the child removed from parental custody if a parent interferes with this process:

Quote:

The age at which minors in Washington state can receive "gender-affirming care" without parental permission is 13. In other words, the e-mails Ahmed received from the hospital were effectively a courtesy; the hospital didn't require Ahmed's permission to begin his son Syed on a path to medical transition.

But Ahmed's cool head prevailed. Believing he might be walking into a trap, Ahmed reached out to a psychiatrist friend he trusted. The psychiatrist gave him advice that he believes saved his son: "You have to be very, very careful because if you come across as just even a little bit anti-trans or anything, they're going to call the Child Protective Services on you and take custody of your kid."
Ahmed assured Seattle Children's Hospital that he would take Syed to a gender clinic and commence his son's transition. Instead, he collected his son, quit his job and moved his family of four out of Washington.

Taken individually, no single law in any state completely strips parents' rights over the mental-health treatment of their troubled minor teens. But pieced together, laws in California, Oregon and Washington place troubled teens as young as 13 in the driver's seat when it comes to their own mental-health care including "gender affirming" care and renders parents powerless to stop them.

Here, for instance, are the powers granted to a 13-year-old child by the state of Washington: She can admit herself for inpatient and outpatient mental-health treatment without parental consent. She can withhold mental-health records from her parents for "sensitive" conditions, such as gender issues. And insurers in Washington must cover a wide array of "gender-affirming treatments" from tracheal shaves to double mastectomies.

Put these together, and a seventh-grader could be entitled to embark on sex transition which may include preparing to receive a course of hormones without her parents' permission, against her parents' wishes, covered by her parents' insurance and with the parents kept in the dark by insurance companies and medical providers.

Following up on Ahmed's family, I spoke in May with Syed's therapist, an autism expert, who confirmed that Syed is no longer suicidal; nor does he believe he is transgender. He's a brilliant 17-year-old autistic boy, doing advanced work in philosophy

https://nypost.com/2021/06/09/lunatic-laws-let-gender-radicals-deny-all-parental-rights/

Further reading here:
https://www.city-journal.org/transgender-identifying-adolescents-threats-to-parental-rights


Wow. Just, wow. So, a 13 year old can determine their best course of action without parental oversight. This is the type of legislation that's filet mignon for the right wing.
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I honestly don't see it as a R vs L issue. I would like to think reasonable people across the spectrum could agree that 13 is too young for someone to be making these decisions, and that they absolutely should not be allowed without parental involvement.
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Was just having a lovely half order of Angel Hair Pasta at a large brew pub Restaurant in Pleasant Hill when a racist clown seated at the corner of the bar signed his receipt with no tip and "F Black People"

Yes, the bartender was a young black woman.

Welcome to Dumberica.







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That A wipe should move to Idaho. If he is dumb enough to ever come back, they should add some "mystery ingredients" to his food and beverage.

Someday his conduct will lead to a major arse whippin'….and the jury will award $0.00 damages in a civil case and in a criminal case the arse kicker will get acquitted.

If that is a half order, I don't want to see the full order.
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$9.95 Angel Hair Pomodoro (half order)

JACKS.
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Mitch McConnell re-elected Senate GOP leader, defeating a challenge from Rick Scott.
Closed door secret ballot.

Rigged?




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DiabloWags said:

$9.95 Angel Hair Pomodoro (half order)

JACKS.
Gotta have some vino with that, Diablo! Leave the beer for the apps.
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It's SHOWTIME for former Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg!

Trumps had role in fraud scheme, former exec testifies at company's trial (yahoo.com)

TESTIFY!

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