AunBear89 said:
It isn't an insult to point out you were wrong.
Insulting is when you call people names when you disagree. Why is it ok for you to do that, but not others?
Great question.
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Great question.
DiabloWags said:AunBear89 said:
It isn't an insult to point out you were wrong.
Insulting is when you call people names when you disagree. Why is it ok for you to do that, but not others?
Great question.
If you are genuinely interested, I only insult when I throw insults back at those who constantly insult others, often purposely with a similar insult to throw a mirror at these individuals. This is why Aunbear89 teased me about PeeWee Herman "I know you are but what am I?". Unfortunately, he and *cough cough* another person here lack the self-awareness to realize this.
AunBear89 said:
Science tends to have that effect on MAGAts and Righteous Righties.
You mean like Fauci's produced-in-China-and-untested Clot Shot?
Parents shouldn’t have any say when it comes to transgender health for their children.
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Press Release (parody) (@AOCpressTwo) June 15, 2023
The doctors and the teachers union should make these decisions because they all have college degrees.
Personally I am in favor of congress to de-construct every 3 letter agency and take a more active role and oversight ability on their functions. The CDC/FDA are basically protecting big pharma at his point. They have completely abused the power given to them by congress. Congress needs to completely start over on the 3 letter agencies with new leadership, new limits on their functions and more congressional oversight. There's no way the FBI should be able to be stonewalling the damn house in congress.dimitrig said:MinotStateBeav said:Yeah, I learned the lesson from COVID. Lefties blindly trusted the pharma co.'s and got untested clot shots that didn't work and had unknown side effects. Big Pharma made billions off you idiots. You think the regulatory agencies are here to protect you, when all they are here for is to protect Big Pharma from being sued. They could care less if you get injured from a pill or shot, just so long as they aren't held responsible for the consequences.AunBear89 said:
Science tends to have that effect on MAGAts and Righteous Righties.
Which brings us to new science. Who's looking out for society?
Do you think the solution to the problem is less regulation?
So, what you are saying is:
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
How does a corrupt and purchased body reform corrupt Federal agencies?
lol true....get lucky we get a couple honest politicians?movielover said:
How does a corrupt and purchased body reform corrupt Federal agencies?
SCOOP: Will be posting a lengthy investigation tomorrow into how some of the Coward 20 have been bought off by Pro-China interests
— DC_Draino (@DC_Draino) June 15, 2023
Today’s vote to protect Adam Schiff will make more sense once I reveal the $$ trail
These cowards just put a spotlight on themselves
Washington Examiner: Majority say Biden DOJ makes US look like a 'banana republic'
"...Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, who tweeted: "This is an affront to every citizen: we cannot devolve into a banana republic where the party in power uses police force to arrest its political opponents. It's hypocritical for the DOJ to selectively prosecute Trump but not Biden." "
"In its latest survey previewed by Secrets, 58% of likely voters said Ramaswamy had it right. Some 46% agreed "strongly," said Rasmussen. Even 37% of Democrats agreed."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/majority-say-biden-doj-makes-us-look-like-a-banana-republic
"...Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, who tweeted: "This is an affront to every citizen: we cannot devolve into a banana republic where the party in power uses police force to arrest its political opponents. It's hypocritical for the DOJ to selectively prosecute Trump but not Biden." "
"In its latest survey previewed by Secrets, 58% of likely voters said Ramaswamy had it right. Some 46% agreed "strongly," said Rasmussen. Even 37% of Democrats agreed."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-secrets/majority-say-biden-doj-makes-us-look-like-a-banana-republic
BREAKING NEWS: BI posters on the left and the right are using the Breaking News thread of the OT forum to squabble.
BIDEN: "We have plans to build a railroad from the Pacific all the way across the Indian Ocean" pic.twitter.com/p3yvuaupsF
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) June 15, 2023
BREAKING: President Biden proposes new trans-ocean railroad from the Pacific to Indian Ocean to combat climate change.
We're gonna need a bigger boat!
BearHunter said:BIDEN: "We have plans to build a railroad from the Pacific all the way across the Indian Ocean" pic.twitter.com/p3yvuaupsF
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) June 15, 2023
BREAKING: President Biden proposes new trans-ocean railroad from the Pacific to Indian Ocean to combat climate change.
This project may take a while (centuries?), but I will go out on a limb and predict it gets done before the high-speed train project in California.
I think this is a great topic. The 3 letter agencies fall under the executive branch. A lot of conservatives believe that congress has essentially no right to oversee the executive branch and that POTUS should have almost unlimited power (unitary executive theory) when it comes to managing the executive branch. Of course they only express that view when a GOPer is in the white house.MinotStateBeav said:Personally I am in favor of congress to de-construct every 3 letter agency and take a more active role and oversight ability on their functions. The CDC/FDA are basically protecting big pharma at his point. They have completely abused the power given to them by congress. Congress needs to completely start over on the 3 letter agencies with new leadership, new limits on their functions and more congressional oversight. There's no way the FBI should be able to be stonewalling the damn house in congress.dimitrig said:MinotStateBeav said:Yeah, I learned the lesson from COVID. Lefties blindly trusted the pharma co.'s and got untested clot shots that didn't work and had unknown side effects. Big Pharma made billions off you idiots. You think the regulatory agencies are here to protect you, when all they are here for is to protect Big Pharma from being sued. They could care less if you get injured from a pill or shot, just so long as they aren't held responsible for the consequences.AunBear89 said:
Science tends to have that effect on MAGAts and Righteous Righties.
Which brings us to new science. Who's looking out for society?
Do you think the solution to the problem is less regulation?
When Trump was POTUS, they thought that the democratic led congress had no authority to subpoena or oversee the executive branch.
You seem to have taken the completely opposite position, which is interesting, but I'm not sure how you think you can support it under the constitution. Are you saying that in a perfect world you think that the President and Congress should have more shared responsibility for managing the agencies or do you have a different idea in mind?
I'm genuinely asking the question. I think that over the last 20+ years, due in part to the "unitary executive" GOPers and in part due to polarization, the checks in balances our framers envisioned have essentially failed and been shown to be illusory.
The other thing that has become clear is that congress is an absolute sh(t show and there is little hope to think that it will ever change. Due to SCOTUS' endorsement for partisan gerrymandering that produces very few contested districts, representatives are mostly incentivized toward extremism and I don't see any countervailing influence likely to change that. Because congress is more invested in maintaining their safe seats than they are in making this country a better place, they are unlikely to ever wield their oversight powers in anything other than support of their own party and re-election priorities. That's why we see the silly "weaponization" committee focus entirely on exacting partisan retribution - indeed weaponizing their oversight powers - than in actually doing anything useful for America.
I don't have any answers - the federal government is a dumpster fire right now and a lot of that is because the constitution isn't equipped to manage the system that resulted from 200+ years of operating within the constraints, but we are where we are. The constitution won't change and SCOTUS has largely abandoned it's original function as it has become a creature of political expedience with a magic wand it can wave to make things as the Federalist society demands.
So where does that leave us?
It's all Kabuki Theater. The IRS targeting conservatives - nothing happened, just Lois Lerner retires.
Congress spends their time in cubicles blocks from Congress with auto dialers, telling constituents what they want to hear.
The heads of these three letter agencies have to be confirmed - could true reformers make it through? Then there is the allegation the IC always has dirt on the key players. I believe we recently had evidence of them illegally spying on Congress. The perps and their bosses weren't fired.
Congress spends their time in cubicles blocks from Congress with auto dialers, telling constituents what they want to hear.
The heads of these three letter agencies have to be confirmed - could true reformers make it through? Then there is the allegation the IC always has dirt on the key players. I believe we recently had evidence of them illegally spying on Congress. The perps and their bosses weren't fired.
Tucker Carlson - Dictatorship?
🔥🔥🔥 https://t.co/OfoLLaOTmb
— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) June 15, 2023
Admittedly, I've been skeptical of the weaponization committee and all of the ridiculous baseless claims alleged by unhinged MAGATs but this has me convinced, The walls are closing in - I expect Biden, who the GOP has asserted is (x) immune from federal prosecution and (y) can squash any DOJ investigation into any criminal wrongdoing without limitations as a sitting POTUS and chief law enforcement officer of the land, will be indicted any day for the crimes alleged in this smoking gun ironclad allegation with absolutely no reason for skepticism.
So the last time anyone heard from whoever has the secret tapes was 3 years ago when a paid informant supposedly spoke to him. According to Chuck Grassley. Solid stuff. These guys are geniuses. https://t.co/rsb7B2Jkbt
— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) June 16, 2023
Unit2Sucks said:
Admittedly, I've been skeptical of the weaponization committee and all of the ridiculous baseless claims alleged by unhinged MAGATs but this has me convinced, The walls are closing in - I expect Biden, who the GOP has asserted is (x) immune from federal prosecution and (y) can squash any DOJ investigation into any criminal wrongdoing without limitations as a sitting POTUS and chief law enforcement officer of the land, will be indicted any day for the crimes alleged in this smoking gun ironclad allegation with absolutely no reason for skepticism.
Joe Biden is wannabe dictator but even he knows the FD-1023 forms unlike the Steele Dossier, does not have a political origin. It is information provided by a highly credible and trusted confidential human source who has worked with the FBI for over a decade.
Grouper Biden fended off the boob by savvy actress.
Anyone surprised?🤨👇🏻
— SaltyGoat (@SaltyGoat17) June 16, 2023
pic.twitter.com/UOMGnNq1tq
Biden is so dumb and shameless but he also has a temper. if reporters keep pressing him about Ukraine, he's going to have an outburst for the ages like Colonel Jessup's character in a Few Good Men.
MinotStateBeav said:Personally I am in favor of congress to de-construct every 3 letter agency and take a more active role and oversight ability on their functions. The CDC/FDA are basically protecting big pharma at his point. They have completely abused the power given to them by congress. Congress needs to completely start over on the 3 letter agencies with new leadership, new limits on their functions and more congressional oversight. There's no way the FBI should be able to be stonewalling the damn house in congress.dimitrig said:MinotStateBeav said:Yeah, I learned the lesson from COVID. Lefties blindly trusted the pharma co.'s and got untested clot shots that didn't work and had unknown side effects. Big Pharma made billions off you idiots. You think the regulatory agencies are here to protect you, when all they are here for is to protect Big Pharma from being sued. They could care less if you get injured from a pill or shot, just so long as they aren't held responsible for the consequences.AunBear89 said:
Science tends to have that effect on MAGAts and Righteous Righties.
Which brings us to new science. Who's looking out for society?
Do you think the solution to the problem is less regulation?
So less regulation, more, or the same?
Unit2Sucks said:I think this is a great topic. The 3 letter agencies fall under the executive branch. A lot of conservatives believe that congress has essentially no right to oversee the executive branch and that POTUS should have almost unlimited power (unitary executive theory) when it comes to managing the executive branch. Of course they only express that view when a GOPer is in the white house.MinotStateBeav said:Personally I am in favor of congress to de-construct every 3 letter agency and take a more active role and oversight ability on their functions. The CDC/FDA are basically protecting big pharma at his point. They have completely abused the power given to them by congress. Congress needs to completely start over on the 3 letter agencies with new leadership, new limits on their functions and more congressional oversight. There's no way the FBI should be able to be stonewalling the damn house in congress.dimitrig said:MinotStateBeav said:Yeah, I learned the lesson from COVID. Lefties blindly trusted the pharma co.'s and got untested clot shots that didn't work and had unknown side effects. Big Pharma made billions off you idiots. You think the regulatory agencies are here to protect you, when all they are here for is to protect Big Pharma from being sued. They could care less if you get injured from a pill or shot, just so long as they aren't held responsible for the consequences.AunBear89 said:
Science tends to have that effect on MAGAts and Righteous Righties.
Which brings us to new science. Who's looking out for society?
Do you think the solution to the problem is less regulation?
When Trump was POTUS, they thought that the democratic led congress had no authority to subpoena or oversee the executive branch.
You seem to have taken the completely opposite position, which is interesting, but I'm not sure how you think you can support it under the constitution. Are you saying that in a perfect world you think that the President and Congress should have more shared responsibility for managing the agencies or do you have a different idea in mind?
I'm genuinely asking the question. I think that over the last 20+ years, due in part to the "unitary executive" GOPers and in part due to polarization, the checks in balances our framers envisioned have essentially failed and been shown to be illusory.
The other thing that has become clear is that congress is an absolute sh(t show and there is little hope to think that it will ever change. Due to SCOTUS' endorsement for partisan gerrymandering that produces very few contested districts, representatives are mostly incentivized toward extremism and I don't see any countervailing influence likely to change that. Because congress is more invested in maintaining their safe seats than they are in making this country a better place, they are unlikely to ever wield their oversight powers in anything other than support of their own party and re-election priorities. That's why we see the silly "weaponization" committee focus entirely on exacting partisan retribution - indeed weaponizing their oversight powers - than in actually doing anything useful for America.
I don't have any answers - the federal government is a dumpster fire right now and a lot of that is because the constitution isn't equipped to manage the system that resulted from 200+ years of operating within the constraints, but we are where we are. The constitution won't change and SCOTUS has largely abandoned it's original function as it has become a creature of political expedience with a magic wand it can wave to make things as the Federalist society demands.
So where does that leave us?
Congress can compel the executive branch to do things. It does it all the time such as with the Patriot Act.
The real problem is that Congress is inept at best and actively destroying our democracy at worst.
If it wasn't for the executive nothing would get done at all.
There's nothing wrong with our agencies other than Congress won't do their damn job.
Where that leaves us is with all the power concentrated in the executive so we better choose our Presidents wisely.
E. Jean Carroll Defamation Trial vs Donald Trump set for January 2024.
Sounds like the Orange Man will be spending more time in Court than on the campaign trail.
Sounds like the Orange Man will be spending more time in Court than on the campaign trail.
Will her cat Vag-na be there?
oski003 said:
https://www.outkick.com/aja-wilson-wnba-player-pissed-off-by-biden-snubbing-lv-aces-championship-win-wheres-our-invite/
The Easter Bunny again finds a way to upset a black basketball star.
Aww, the wee little trolly troll's trolly thread started with this identical post got deleted.
Trolly trolls get cancelled.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
AunBear89 said:oski003 said:
https://www.outkick.com/aja-wilson-wnba-player-pissed-off-by-biden-snubbing-lv-aces-championship-win-wheres-our-invite/
The Easter Bunny again finds a way to upset a black basketball star.
Aww, the wee little trolly troll's trolly thread started with this identical post got deleted.
Trolly trolls get cancelled.
Wow.
A moderator actually cared about trolling.
Shocker!
Having me answer how to fix the inept 3 letter agencies is a much bigger problem than I'm capable of giving an answer to really. I mean, this is a really huge issue that probably requires all the branches of government to work together likely lol.
First you have to identify the Agency and why it's a problem.
The root of what their task/purpose is (why was it created in the first place, if congress can just do it's job on its own without having another agency?)
Who has oversight to correct the agency, so that corruption can be stamped out quickly and transparently, can it even be corrected in its current state?
Does the new oversight powers to whoever actually fix the core issue?
These are the kind of questions that popped up in my head that can be like a start on reviewing the agencies. Should all the agencies go thru a review every 4 years after each presidential cycle? So that executive orders and congressional pork etc doesn't corrupt the intended purpose of each agency in each presidential cycle.
Another thing. Executive Orders. Can we get rid of that absolutely stupid function of the executive. I don't care if we wait until we have a republican in office to do it..but lets get rid of it the EXECUTIVE ORDER. A president isn't it's own fifedom. He should have to go to congress to get funding for a war, as our government was intended to work.
First you have to identify the Agency and why it's a problem.
The root of what their task/purpose is (why was it created in the first place, if congress can just do it's job on its own without having another agency?)
Who has oversight to correct the agency, so that corruption can be stamped out quickly and transparently, can it even be corrected in its current state?
Does the new oversight powers to whoever actually fix the core issue?
These are the kind of questions that popped up in my head that can be like a start on reviewing the agencies. Should all the agencies go thru a review every 4 years after each presidential cycle? So that executive orders and congressional pork etc doesn't corrupt the intended purpose of each agency in each presidential cycle.
Another thing. Executive Orders. Can we get rid of that absolutely stupid function of the executive. I don't care if we wait until we have a republican in office to do it..but lets get rid of it the EXECUTIVE ORDER. A president isn't it's own fifedom. He should have to go to congress to get funding for a war, as our government was intended to work.
Daniel Penny’s Indictment Deserves The Level Of Outrage Trump’s Got https://t.co/hYqjZAQWbz
— Mollie (@MZHemingway) June 16, 2023
MinotStateBeav said:
Another thing. Executive Orders. Can we get rid of that absolutely stupid function of the executive. I don't care if we wait until we have a republican in office to do it..but lets get rid of it the EXECUTIVE ORDER. A president isn't it's own fifedom. He should have to go to congress to get funding for a war, as our government was intended to work.
Your boy Trump signed 220 executive orders from January 2017 to January 2021.
That's one EO every week of his term.
List of executive orders by Donald Trump - Wikipedia
Were you born with a half working brain or did you receive a brain injury in pre-school? read what I wrote again, then if it's still too difficult to understand, re-read it, until finally...the whole thing makes sense to you.DiabloWags said:MinotStateBeav said:
Another thing. Executive Orders. Can we get rid of that absolutely stupid function of the executive. I don't care if we wait until we have a republican in office to do it..but lets get rid of it the EXECUTIVE ORDER. A president isn't it's own fifedom. He should have to go to congress to get funding for a war, as our government was intended to work.
Your boy Trump signed 220 executive orders from January 2017 to January 2021.
That's one EO every week of his term.
List of executive orders by Donald Trump - Wikipedia
SCOOP: Insider at Kaiser Permanente in California shared internal employee training documents with us showing the hospital allows phalloplasties and vaginoplasties on minors. https://t.co/ZOotObo83W
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) June 16, 2023
movielover said:SCOOP: Insider at Kaiser Permanente in California shared internal employee training documents with us showing the hospital allows phalloplasties and vaginoplasties on minors. https://t.co/ZOotObo83W
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) June 16, 2023
What's the problem?
Most Republicans think 14 year olds should be able to get married so why not change gender if that's what they want?
Near-supermajority of California voters want Sen. Dianne Feinstein to resignhttps://t.co/GzXJhxIvDZ
— Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein) June 16, 2023
Vote Blue No Matter Who - Seriously though guys? This guy is near Feinstein levels of acuity.
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