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^Right, cheap partisan grandstanding. As if you have to be a right winger to mock the carnival of narcissism and vanities that is Burning Man...

Meanwhile in California - this is unreal!

California is passing Bill 553, which makes it illegal to confront or fight back against looters, burglars and shoplifters. You’ll be fined $18,000 if you intervene. It puts every employee at the mercy of criminals. pic.twitter.com/9f9VbEFfKr

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) September 5, 2023

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Whoever drafted this law is is the most mentally sick, insane, criminally deranged individual I have ever been on planet earth with at the same time.

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Or maybe the law doesn't actually say what Cheong claims it does.

https://kmph.com/news/local/enough-is-enough-ca-business-owners-and-lawmakers-held-rally-against-dangerous-policies-at-capitol

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In a statement provided by Cortese says, "Under my SB 553, employers would be prohibited from forcing their rank and file, non-security workers to confront active shoplifters, and all retail employees would be trained on how to react to active shoplifting. The legislation has other provisions that keep people safe at work. Let's take every reasonable step to prevent another workplace assault or shooting."

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You still might disagree with the bill, and that's fine! But it doesn't actually fine employees who confront shoplifters. I'm honestly not sure where Cheong got that from, but I think there's a reason he just took a picture of the article and didn't actually link to it.

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You're right, I think, but the bill apparently states this (according to the article): "It would establish new workplace standards, that would prohibit store employees from fighting back against thieves."
How will companies prohibit anything? Will they be made to give offending employees a stern talking to?

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From what I can tell, the intent of the bill is to prevent companies from REQUIRING employees to physically confront shoplifters (security guards excepted). I haven't read the text extensively, but seems like the company would be fined (or open to lawsuit) if it violated this law, not the employees themselves.

There could be indirect effects on employees' ability to keep their jobs, of course.

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It is hard to tell. I cannot find the amendment that Senator Cortese proposed Monday.

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Well then, by all means, in the absence of actual information, let's continue to spread conjecture

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So, you think the news story is wrong? By all means, in the absence of actual information, keep fighting your fight.

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I think you fell for another lying tweet posted by Cal88

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https://kmph.com/news/local/enough-is-enough-ca-business-owners-and-lawmakers-held-rally-against-dangerous-policies-at-capitol^Right, cheap partisan grandstanding. As if you have to be a right winger to mock the carnival of narcissism and vanities that is Burning Man...

Meanwhile in California - this is unreal!

California is passing Bill 553, which makes it illegal to confront or fight back against looters, burglars and shoplifters. You’ll be fined $18,000 if you intervene. It puts every employee at the mercy of criminals. pic.twitter.com/9f9VbEFfKr

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) September 5, 2023

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Whoever drafted this law is is the most mentally sick, insane, criminally deranged individual I have ever been on planet earth with at the same time.

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Or maybe the law doesn't actually say what Cheong claims it does.

https://kmph.com/news/local/enough-is-enough-ca-business-owners-and-lawmakers-held-rally-against-dangerous-policies-at-capitol

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In a statement provided by Cortese says, "Under my SB 553, employers would be prohibited from forcing their rank and file, non-security workers to confront active shoplifters, and all retail employees would be trained on how to react to active shoplifting. The legislation has other provisions that keep people safe at work. Let's take every reasonable step to prevent another workplace assault or shooting."

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You still might disagree with the bill, and that's fine! But it doesn't actually fine employees who confront shoplifters. I'm honestly not sure where Cheong got that from, but I think there's a reason he just took a picture of the article and didn't actually link to it.

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You're right, I think, but the bill apparently states this (according to the article): "It would establish new workplace standards, that would prohibit store employees from fighting back against thieves."
How will companies prohibit anything? Will they be made to give offending employees a stern talking to?

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From what I can tell, the intent of the bill is to prevent companies from REQUIRING employees to physically confront shoplifters (security guards excepted). I haven't read the text extensively, but seems like the company would be fined (or open to lawsuit) if it violated this law, not the employees themselves.

There could be indirect effects on employees' ability to keep their jobs, of course.

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It is hard to tell. I cannot find the amendment that Senator Cortese proposed Monday.

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Well then, by all means, in the absence of actual information, let's continue to spread conjecture

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So, you think the news story is wrong? By all means, in the absence of actual information, keep fighting your fight.

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I think you fell for another lying tweet posted by Cal88

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You think wrong, chief.

https://kmph.com/news/local/enough-is-enough-ca-business-owners-and-lawmakers-held-rally-against-dangerous-policies-at-capitol

"The bill, "requires employers to develop their own workplace violence prevention plans as part of their Cal/OSHA Injury Illness Prevention Plan."

It would establish new workplace standards, that would prohibit store employees from fighting back against thieves."

oski003 said:

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dajo9 said:

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sycasey said:

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82gradDLSdad said:

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sycasey said:

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Cal88 said:

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https://kmph.com/news/local/enough-is-enough-ca-business-owners-and-lawmakers-held-rally-against-dangerous-policies-at-capitol^Right, cheap partisan grandstanding. As if you have to be a right winger to mock the carnival of narcissism and vanities that is Burning Man...

Meanwhile in California - this is unreal!

California is passing Bill 553, which makes it illegal to confront or fight back against looters, burglars and shoplifters. You’ll be fined $18,000 if you intervene. It puts every employee at the mercy of criminals. pic.twitter.com/9f9VbEFfKr

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) September 5, 2023

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Whoever drafted this law is is the most mentally sick, insane, criminally deranged individual I have ever been on planet earth with at the same time.

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Or maybe the law doesn't actually say what Cheong claims it does.

https://kmph.com/news/local/enough-is-enough-ca-business-owners-and-lawmakers-held-rally-against-dangerous-policies-at-capitol

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In a statement provided by Cortese says, "Under my SB 553, employers would be prohibited from forcing their rank and file, non-security workers to confront active shoplifters, and all retail employees would be trained on how to react to active shoplifting. The legislation has other provisions that keep people safe at work. Let's take every reasonable step to prevent another workplace assault or shooting."

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You still might disagree with the bill, and that's fine! But it doesn't actually fine employees who confront shoplifters. I'm honestly not sure where Cheong got that from, but I think there's a reason he just took a picture of the article and didn't actually link to it.

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You're right, I think, but the bill apparently states this (according to the article): "It would establish new workplace standards, that would prohibit store employees from fighting back against thieves."
How will companies prohibit anything? Will they be made to give offending employees a stern talking to?

---

From what I can tell, the intent of the bill is to prevent companies from REQUIRING employees to physically confront shoplifters (security guards excepted). I haven't read the text extensively, but seems like the company would be fined (or open to lawsuit) if it violated this law, not the employees themselves.

There could be indirect effects on employees' ability to keep their jobs, of course.

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It is hard to tell. I cannot find the amendment that Senator Cortese proposed Monday.

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Well then, by all means, in the absence of actual information, let's continue to spread conjecture

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So, you think the news story is wrong? By all means, in the absence of actual information, keep fighting your fight.

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I think you fell for another lying tweet posted by Cal88

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You think wrong, chief.

https://kmph.com/news/local/enough-is-enough-ca-business-owners-and-lawmakers-held-rally-against-dangerous-policies-at-capitol

"The bill, "requires employers to develop their own workplace violence prevention plans as part of their Cal/OSHA Injury Illness Prevention Plan."

It would establish new workplace standards, that would prohibit store employees from fighting back against thieves."

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And for that regulatory addition you said, "Whoever drafted this law is is the most mentally sick, insane, criminally deranged individual I have ever been on planet earth with at the same time"

But you most certainly did not say that because of the lying tweet.

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Cal88 said:

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https://kmph.com/news/local/enough-is-enough-ca-business-owners-and-lawmakers-held-rally-against-dangerous-policies-at-capitol^Right, cheap partisan grandstanding. As if you have to be a right winger to mock the carnival of narcissism and vanities that is Burning Man...

Meanwhile in California - this is unreal!

California is passing Bill 553, which makes it illegal to confront or fight back against looters, burglars and shoplifters. You’ll be fined $18,000 if you intervene. It puts every employee at the mercy of criminals. pic.twitter.com/9f9VbEFfKr

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) September 5, 2023

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Whoever drafted this law is is the most mentally sick, insane, criminally deranged individual I have ever been on planet earth with at the same time.

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Or maybe the law doesn't actually say what Cheong claims it does.

https://kmph.com/news/local/enough-is-enough-ca-business-owners-and-lawmakers-held-rally-against-dangerous-policies-at-capitol

Quote:

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In a statement provided by Cortese says, "Under my SB 553, employers would be prohibited from forcing their rank and file, non-security workers to confront active shoplifters, and all retail employees would be trained on how to react to active shoplifting. The legislation has other provisions that keep people safe at work. Let's take every reasonable step to prevent another workplace assault or shooting."

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You still might disagree with the bill, and that's fine! But it doesn't actually fine employees who confront shoplifters. I'm honestly not sure where Cheong got that from, but I think there's a reason he just took a picture of the article and didn't actually link to it.

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You're right, I think, but the bill apparently states this (according to the article): "It would establish new workplace standards, that would prohibit store employees from fighting back against thieves."
How will companies prohibit anything? Will they be made to give offending employees a stern talking to?

---

From what I can tell, the intent of the bill is to prevent companies from REQUIRING employees to physically confront shoplifters (security guards excepted). I haven't read the text extensively, but seems like the company would be fined (or open to lawsuit) if it violated this law, not the employees themselves.

There could be indirect effects on employees' ability to keep their jobs, of course.

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It is hard to tell. I cannot find the amendment that Senator Cortese proposed Monday.

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Well then, by all means, in the absence of actual information, let's continue to spread conjecture

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So, you think the news story is wrong? By all means, in the absence of actual information, keep fighting your fight.

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I think you fell for another lying tweet posted by Cal88

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You think wrong, chief.

https://kmph.com/news/local/enough-is-enough-ca-business-owners-and-lawmakers-held-rally-against-dangerous-policies-at-capitol

"The bill, "requires employers to develop their own workplace violence prevention plans as part of their Cal/OSHA Injury Illness Prevention Plan."

It would establish new workplace standards, that would prohibit store employees from fighting back against thieves."

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And for that regulatory addition you said, "Whoever drafted this law is is the most mentally sick, insane, criminally deranged individual I have ever been on planet earth with at the same time"

But you most certainly did not say that because of the lying tweet.

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After some research on BI Off Topic, I have recently expanded my definition of what is means to be the most mentally sick, insane, criminally deranged individual I have ever been on planet with.

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Cal88 said:

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https://kmph.com/news/local/enough-is-enough-ca-business-owners-and-lawmakers-held-rally-against-dangerous-policies-at-capitol^Right, cheap partisan grandstanding. As if you have to be a right winger to mock the carnival of narcissism and vanities that is Burning Man...

Meanwhile in California - this is unreal!

California is passing Bill 553, which makes it illegal to confront or fight back against looters, burglars and shoplifters. You’ll be fined $18,000 if you intervene. It puts every employee at the mercy of criminals. pic.twitter.com/9f9VbEFfKr

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) September 5, 2023

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Whoever drafted this law is is the most mentally sick, insane, criminally deranged individual I have ever been on planet earth with at the same time.

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Or maybe the law doesn't actually say what Cheong claims it does.

https://kmph.com/news/local/enough-is-enough-ca-business-owners-and-lawmakers-held-rally-against-dangerous-policies-at-capitol

Quote:

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In a statement provided by Cortese says, "Under my SB 553, employers would be prohibited from forcing their rank and file, non-security workers to confront active shoplifters, and all retail employees would be trained on how to react to active shoplifting. The legislation has other provisions that keep people safe at work. Let's take every reasonable step to prevent another workplace assault or shooting."

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You still might disagree with the bill, and that's fine! But it doesn't actually fine employees who confront shoplifters. I'm honestly not sure where Cheong got that from, but I think there's a reason he just took a picture of the article and didn't actually link to it.

---

You're right, I think, but the bill apparently states this (according to the article): "It would establish new workplace standards, that would prohibit store employees from fighting back against thieves."
How will companies prohibit anything? Will they be made to give offending employees a stern talking to?

---

From what I can tell, the intent of the bill is to prevent companies from REQUIRING employees to physically confront shoplifters (security guards excepted). I haven't read the text extensively, but seems like the company would be fined (or open to lawsuit) if it violated this law, not the employees themselves.

There could be indirect effects on employees' ability to keep their jobs, of course.

---

It is hard to tell. I cannot find the amendment that Senator Cortese proposed Monday.

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Well then, by all means, in the absence of actual information, let's continue to spread conjecture

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So, you think the news story is wrong? By all means, in the absence of actual information, keep fighting your fight.

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I think you fell for another lying tweet posted by Cal88

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You think wrong, chief.

https://kmph.com/news/local/enough-is-enough-ca-business-owners-and-lawmakers-held-rally-against-dangerous-policies-at-capitol

"The bill, "requires employers to develop their own workplace violence prevention plans as part of their Cal/OSHA Injury Illness Prevention Plan."

It would establish new workplace standards, that would prohibit store employees from fighting back against thieves."

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The original posted Tweet said you would be fined $18,000 for trying to confront a shoplifter. That's the lie.

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^Right, cheap partisan grandstanding. As if you have to be a right winger to mock the carnival of narcissism and vanities that is Burning Man...

Meanwhile in California - this is unreal!

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This belongs in the How Trump got elected thread. You pass stupid you get stupider.

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Your TDS belongs in the Republicans gonna Republican thread.

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Cal88 said:

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^Right, cheap partisan grandstanding. As if you have to be a right winger to mock the carnival of narcissism and vanities that is Burning Man...

Meanwhile in California - this is unreal!

California is passing Bill 553, which makes it illegal to confront or fight back against looters, burglars and shoplifters. You’ll be fined $18,000 if you intervene. It puts every employee at the mercy of criminals. pic.twitter.com/9f9VbEFfKr

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) September 5, 2023

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Whoever drafted this law is is the most mentally sick, insane, criminally deranged individual I have ever been on planet earth with at the same time.

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Or maybe the law doesn't actually say what Cheong claims it does.

https://kmph.com/news/local/enough-is-enough-ca-business-owners-and-lawmakers-held-rally-against-dangerous-policies-at-capitol

Quote:

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In a statement provided by Cortese says, "Under my SB 553, employers would be prohibited from forcing their rank and file, non-security workers to confront active shoplifters, and all retail employees would be trained on how to react to active shoplifting. The legislation has other provisions that keep people safe at work. Let's take every reasonable step to prevent another workplace assault or shooting."

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You still might disagree with the bill, and that's fine! But it doesn't actually fine employees who confront shoplifters. I'm honestly not sure where Cheong got that from, but I think there's a reason he just took a picture of the article and didn't actually link to it.

---

You're right, I think, but the bill apparently states this (according to the article): "It would establish new workplace standards, that would prohibit store employees from fighting back against thieves."
How will companies prohibit anything? Will they be made to give offending employees a stern talking to?

---

From what I can tell, the intent of the bill is to prevent companies from REQUIRING employees to physically confront shoplifters (security guards excepted). I haven't read the text extensively, but seems like the company would be fined (or open to lawsuit) if it violated this law, not the employees themselves.

There could be indirect effects on employees' ability to keep their jobs, of course.

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It is hard to tell. I cannot find the amendment that Senator Cortese proposed Monday.

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Well then, by all means, in the absence of actual information, let's continue to spread conjecture

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How about instead of passing the burden to business owners to prevent crime, we have the state and local municipalities create a group of people whose job it is to arrest people who commit property crimes. We could even create academies where these individuals will be trained in proper crime deterrence and dealing with criminals in potentially violent situations.

I even have a name idea for this group.

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I'm all for it.

Awesome to connect with Dave Butler and @TonyGonzalez88 in Texas last weekend.

Two great former Cal players and great people.

All @CalMBBall alums and families & friends welcome at practices. pic.twitter.com/NXsuZ9i7gz

— Mark Madsen (@madsen_mark) September 5, 2023

If you didn't know better you might think this is a photo of a couple of 6 footers with a 5'10 guy instead of 6'5, 6'9 and 6'8.

Madsen really gets it, the program is in very good hands going into the ACC, we really needed that kind of upgrade with the level of competition going up.

Mayor Ted Wheeler is asking Oregon Gov. for 96 State Troopers to set up a permanent station in downtown Portland to patrol lol. Now the entire state has to pay for Portland's idiotic defund the police policies. They are already having to pay Portland Police Bureau (PPB) cops double overtime to keep minimal shifts up to snuff because they don't have enough police. I wonder if the state has 96 officers just laying around doing nothing! Who needs them pesky highways policed anyway. Portland has already lowered the standards to be a cop to practically "Are you breathing?" But they still can't get enough.

https://www.opb.org/article/2023/08/22/state-troopers-portland-ted-wheeler/

Outrageous! Border Patrol Agent Reveals Biden Regime Gives $2,200 of Taxpayer Money Per Illegal Immigrant Family, Plus a Plane Ticket, Housing, Food, Free Medical Services (VIDEO) https://t.co/zHAhQOqPJu #gatewaypundit via @gatewaypundit

— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) September 7, 2023

What does he think it's been doing to the country? pic.twitter.com/6vtPvlWcRS

— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) September 7, 2023

Biden Cancels Previously Issued ANWR Oil and Gas Leases in Alaska

This could hurt. Twenty four hours before President Joe Biden announced he was cancelling oil and gas leases in Alaska's ANWR region, Saudi Arabia and Russia announced oil production limits would continue.

Oil prices spiked near $100/bbl and then installed Joe Biden amplifies the problem by cancelling previously sold oil and gas leases.

The Biden Administration is intentionally driving up the cost of domestic energy in the U.S..

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Biden Cancels Previously Issued ANWR Oil and Gas Leases in Alaska

This could hurt. Twenty four hours before President Joe Biden announced he was cancelling oil and gas leases in Alaska's ANWR region, Saudi Arabia and Russia announced oil production limits would continue.

Oil prices spiked near $100/bbl and then installed Joe Biden amplifies the problem by cancelling previously sold oil and gas leases.

The Biden Administration is intentionally driving up the cost of domestic energy in the U.S..

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Everybody knows that higher energy prices going into winter is good for the poor and working class.

pic.twitter.com/Kbj9BgebAE

— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) September 8, 2023

The lone exception.

You'd think after being blocked for over a year Aunbear would have figured it out by now, but here we are lol.

Biden Admin Celebrating Lowering Drug Costs!!!!!! But wait...there's more!!!



Breakdown.

-9 drug costs are going to be lowered. But only drugs that've been out out for 9 years or more and have no generic competition. But 5 of those 9 actually won't be effected because the bills been watered down.
-It doesn't go into effect until 2026.
-Vaccines are FREE!!!! Except tax payers are paying for them. No mention of how much we're being gouged.
-The drugs effected are still going to be 1000% more expensive than they are found in most countries.
-We paid for the development of all these drugs and are still paying more than everybody else.
-Yay.

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— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) September 8, 2023

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I wonder if you and Catturd understand why that is superficially a witty comment, but a really stupid one, deep down. I mean do you? Because maybe you do and you just want to own the libs, but maybe you don't, which would be scary.

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— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) September 8, 2023

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I wonder if you and Catturd understand why that is superficially a witty comment, but a really stupid one, deep down. I mean do you? Because maybe you do and you just want to own the libs, but maybe you don't, which would be scary.

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That describes everything Catturd posts. He thinks he is posting these really clever and astute observations like George Orwell but he is more like Arsenio Hall.

Catturd sucks and is garbage.

Literally everything is gamed these days

A PR firm has been manipulating the Rotten Tomatoes movie scores for over 5 years by paying critics directly

(via @vulture) pic.twitter.com/TUmthkbrHH

— Culture Crave 🍿 (@CultureCrave) September 6, 2023

You're only figuring that out now? Sock Puppets are dumb.