DiabloWags said:

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SFCityBear said:

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DiabloWags said:

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movielover said:

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DiabloWags said:

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You mean like Trump's wall?

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Trumps 570-odd miles of 30' Wall are very effective.

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You should use Fact-Checking.
You wouldn't appear so deaf, dumb, and blind here.
Or are you one of those rare birds that just enjoys being DUPED 24/7?

Facts First: Trump's "571 miles" claim is false, an even greater exaggeration than the inaccurate "561 miles" and "over 500 miles" claims he has made at other points of his campaign. An official report by US Customs and Border Protection, written two days after Trump left office and subsequently obtained by CNN's Priscilla Alvarez, said the total number built under Trump was 458 miles including both wall built where no barriers had existed before and wall built to replace previous barriers. Trump has sometimes put the figure, more correctly, at "nearly 500 miles."

Fifty-two of the 458 miles built under Trump was "primary" wall that was built in parts of the border where no barriers previously existed. The rest was 33 miles of "secondary" wall that was built in spots where no barriers previously existed, plus 373 miles of primary and secondary wall that was built to replace previous barriers the federal government says had become "dilapidated and/or outdated."

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I'm not saying that any of Trump's statements are correct, but I would question your sources as much as you question Donald Trump's statements. What leads you to believe that "US Customs and Border Patrol", the "Federal Government" , and an employee of CNN, are all truthful when it comes to disseminating information? Customs and Border Protection is run by a very dishonest bird, and his trying to hide the invasion at the border is one example. Which government agency is well-trusted today when it comes to public statements? Let's start with the Center for Disease Control. How about Transportation? That's a real winner, on the sea, in the air, and the rails. Justice? The FBI? No, they are always accurate, aren't they? As for CNN, they have been in the pocket of the Far Left for as far back as my memory goes. There is a lot of propaganda out there on the airwaves, on all sides.

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Let me guess . . . you actually believe that Mexico paid for the wall.

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Trump was using 'pay for' figuratively. By keeping the bad guys in Mexico they were 'paying for' the wall.

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82gradDLSdad said:

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Trump was using 'pay for' figuratively. By keeping the bad guys in Mexico they were 'paying for' the wall.

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He was using "pay" as in, it will make them so mad that there is a wall that it is "PAYback" for sending so many dirty criminal immigrants.

Trump is ALWAYS speaking the real truth no matter how it contradicts experts or first hand accounts or reality; AND he is always joking and just being funny and a character and using metaphor.

He's like the Bible: absolutely literally true and also parable and also up to interpretation and also the evolving thoughts of God and also the enduring never changing record of an omniscient omnipresent being. It's all things at all times and only a dumb Lib would attempt to fact check or point out logical fallacy or direct contradictions.



...cognitive dissonance anyone?

DiabloWags said:

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SFCityBear said:

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DiabloWags said:

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movielover said:

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DiabloWags said:

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You mean like Trump's wall?

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Trumps 570-odd miles of 30' Wall are very effective.

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You should use Fact-Checking.
You wouldn't appear so deaf, dumb, and blind here.
Or are you one of those rare birds that just enjoys being DUPED 24/7?

Facts First: Trump's "571 miles" claim is false, an even greater exaggeration than the inaccurate "561 miles" and "over 500 miles" claims he has made at other points of his campaign. An official report by US Customs and Border Protection, written two days after Trump left office and subsequently obtained by CNN's Priscilla Alvarez, said the total number built under Trump was 458 miles including both wall built where no barriers had existed before and wall built to replace previous barriers. Trump has sometimes put the figure, more correctly, at "nearly 500 miles."

Fifty-two of the 458 miles built under Trump was "primary" wall that was built in parts of the border where no barriers previously existed. The rest was 33 miles of "secondary" wall that was built in spots where no barriers previously existed, plus 373 miles of primary and secondary wall that was built to replace previous barriers the federal government says had become "dilapidated and/or outdated."

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I'm not saying that any of Trump's statements are correct, but I would question your sources as much as you question Donald Trump's statements. What leads you to believe that "US Customs and Border Patrol", the "Federal Government" , and an employee of CNN, are all truthful when it comes to disseminating information? Customs and Border Protection is run by a very dishonest bird, and his trying to hide the invasion at the border is one example. Which government agency is well-trusted today when it comes to public statements? Let's start with the Center for Disease Control. How about Transportation? That's a real winner, on the sea, in the air, and the rails. Justice? The FBI? No, they are always accurate, aren't they? As for CNN, they have been in the pocket of the Far Left for as far back as my memory goes. There is a lot of propaganda out there on the airwaves, on all sides.

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Let me guess . . . you actually believe that Mexico paid for the wall.

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Not necessarily in the literal sense. It cost money to shelter and feed those about to be come illegal immigrants remaining in Mexico. and it cost money to have 20,000 troops stationed at the border. I don't remember Congress coming up with the money to pay for either. And the reason that wall was not completed had more to do with both of Trump's Congresses not coming up with the money to complete it. Trump found out, as did Obama before him, and Biden did after him, that Presidents are quite limited in what they can do without the backing of Congress, especially if taxpayer money is required.

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bear2034 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Let me guess . . . you actually believe that Mexico paid for the wall.

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You paid for the wall that Joe Biden secretly flew illegal immigrants over.

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bear, one nice thing about your posts is that they are short and don't require any thought on my part.

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Oregon, I don't read your posts, even the ones I respond to.

DiabloWags said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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bear2034 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Let me guess . . . you actually believe that Mexico paid for the wall.

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You paid for the wall that Joe Biden secretly flew illegal immigrants over.

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bear, one nice thing about your posts is that they are short and don't require any thought on my part.

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He strikes me as the kind of guy that believes every word that Trump says . . .

Like how $85 Billion in "brand new beautiful military equipment (was) left behind" in Afghanistan or how not a single American soldier died in Afghanistan during an 18-month period, or how the U.S. was energy independent under Trump, or how the economy was the "best economy our country's ever had" under his presidency.

He's literally parroted these same lies here at Bearinsider ad nauseam.
He doesnt strike me as the sharpest tool in the shed.

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Thanks for the laugh, reminding me how he used to say
"Worst economy ever"
then
"Best economy ever"
then
"Worst economy ever"
None of which made any sense to me. And any noticeable shift was Covid induced that had nothing to do with any president, in my economic book.

Anyways, he can't say that anymore, because
Unemployment is low
Inflation is under control
Stock market all time high

But, watch, it won't stop him.
He'll invent some new metric we should all be paying attention to and say that Biden is the worst because…

Highest-Paid Athletes of All Time List


https://www.sportico.com/feature/highest-paid-athletes-all-time-1234711562/

Top 10:

Michael Jordan: $3.75B
Tiger Woods: $2.66B
Cristiano Ronaldo: $1.92B
Arnold Palmer: $1.76B
LeBron James: $1.7B
Jack Nicklaus: $1.67B
Lionel Messi: $1.67B
David Beckham: $1.5B
Roger Federer: $1.49B
Floyd Mayweather: $1.48B

Employers in the SF Bay Area added 13,600 jobs in January, propelled by big employment gains in the South Bay with impressive job growth in Silicon Valley, even amid large hi-tech layoffs.

The South Bay added 5,000 jobs in January.

The San Francisco - San Mateo region added 3,400 jobs in January.

The East Bay gained 2,200 jobs in January.

All total, CA added 58,100 jobs in January.

State Unemployment Rate: 5.2%

DiabloWags said:

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Employers in the SF Bay Area added 13,600 jobs in January, propelled by big employment gains in the South Bay with impressive job growth in Silicon Valley, even amid large hi-tech layoffs.

The South Bay added 5,000 jobs in January.

The San Francisco - San Mateo region added 3,400 jobs in January.

The East Bay gained 2,200 jobs in January.

All total, CA added 58,100 jobs in January.

State Unemployment Rate: 5.2%

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We are doing so good:

Newsom Wants to Add $6.4 Billion to California's $1.6 Trillion Debt with Proposition 1

82gradDLSdad said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Employers in the SF Bay Area added 13,600 jobs in January, propelled by big employment gains in the South Bay with impressive job growth in Silicon Valley, even amid large hi-tech layoffs.

The South Bay added 5,000 jobs in January.

The San Francisco - San Mateo region added 3,400 jobs in January.

The East Bay gained 2,200 jobs in January.

All total, CA added 58,100 jobs in January.

State Unemployment Rate: 5.2%

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We are doing so good:

Newsom Wants to Add $6.4 Billion to California's $1.6 Trillion Debt with Proposition 1

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You are the reason California has such a big homelessness problem. You.

Big C said:

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bear2034 said:

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dajo9 said:

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oski003 said:

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82gradDLSdad said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Employers in the SF Bay Area added 13,600 jobs in January, propelled by big employment gains in the South Bay with impressive job growth in Silicon Valley, even amid large hi-tech layoffs.

The South Bay added 5,000 jobs in January.

The San Francisco - San Mateo region added 3,400 jobs in January.

The East Bay gained 2,200 jobs in January.

All total, CA added 58,100 jobs in January.

State Unemployment Rate: 5.2%

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We are doing so good:

Newsom Wants to Add $6.4 Billion to California's $1.6 Trillion Debt with Proposition 1

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Who cares? In a "roaring economy" with "record unemployment" Biden manged to take our national debt to more than $34 trillion.

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Raise taxes on the rich

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Democrats are the party of the very rich and those dependent on the government. They also hate the middle class.

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Republican Party platform, filled with specific policies to help the middle class:

"Don't actually have a platform or any policy ideas, except for just do whatever Trump says that week."

(I looked it up.)

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Please post it for our edification.

bear2034 said:

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Big C said:

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bear2034 said:

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dajo9 said:

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82gradDLSdad said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Employers in the SF Bay Area added 13,600 jobs in January, propelled by big employment gains in the South Bay with impressive job growth in Silicon Valley, even amid large hi-tech layoffs.

The South Bay added 5,000 jobs in January.

The San Francisco - San Mateo region added 3,400 jobs in January.

The East Bay gained 2,200 jobs in January.

All total, CA added 58,100 jobs in January.

State Unemployment Rate: 5.2%

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We are doing so good:

Newsom Wants to Add $6.4 Billion to California's $1.6 Trillion Debt with Proposition 1

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Who cares? In a "roaring economy" with "record unemployment" Biden manged to take our national debt to more than $34 trillion.

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Raise taxes on the rich

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Democrats are the party of the very rich and those dependent on the government. They also hate the middle class.

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Republican Party platform, filled with specific policies to help the middle class:

"Don't actually have a platform or any policy ideas, except for just do whatever Trump says that week."

(I looked it up.)

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Please post it for our edification.

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Post it again?!? You want me to get carpal tunnel syndrome? Just go back and read it again.

82gradDLSdad said:

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82gradDLSdad said:

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dajo9 said:

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Raise taxes on the rich

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"The top 5 percent of income earners pay 70 percent of the personal income tax. And the personal income tax is California's biggest source of revenue," said Robert Gutierrez, CEO of the California Taxpayers Association

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Cool story, bro. But the conversation was about Federal debt.

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"In all, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid $723 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90 percent paid $450 billion."

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Yup.
Dajo is totally lost on this topic.

Never mind that the Top 50% of all taxpayers paid 97.7% of all Federal individual income taxes while the bottom 50% paid the remaining 2.3%

Never mind that the Top 1% of taxpayers paid a 26% average rate, more than 8X higher than the 3.1% average rate paid by the bottom half of taxpayers. In other words, anyone making under $42,184 faced an average income tax rate of 3.1 in 2020.

The share of Federal income taxes paid by the Top 1% rose from 38.8% in 2019 to 42.3% in 2020.

Who Pays Federal Income Taxes? | IRS Federal Income Tax Data, 2023 (taxfoundation.org)

82gradDLSdad said:

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82gradDLSdad said:

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dajo9 said:

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82gradDLSdad said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Employers in the SF Bay Area added 13,600 jobs in January, propelled by big employment gains in the South Bay with impressive job growth in Silicon Valley, even amid large hi-tech layoffs.

The South Bay added 5,000 jobs in January.

The San Francisco - San Mateo region added 3,400 jobs in January.

The East Bay gained 2,200 jobs in January.

All total, CA added 58,100 jobs in January.

State Unemployment Rate: 5.2%

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We are doing so good:

Newsom Wants to Add $6.4 Billion to California's $1.6 Trillion Debt with Proposition 1

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Who cares? In a "roaring economy" with "record unemployment" Biden manged to take our national debt to more than $34 trillion.

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Raise taxes on the rich

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"The top 5 percent of income earners pay 70 percent of the personal income tax. And the personal income tax is California's biggest source of revenue," said Robert Gutierrez, CEO of the California Taxpayers Association

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Cool story, bro. But the conversation was about Federal debt.

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"In all, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid $723 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90 percent paid $450 billion."

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You've explained where $1.2 trillion of federal revenue came from in 2020. But Federal revenues were $3.4 trillion. Now tell us where the other $2.2 trillion of federal revenue came from.