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Employers in the SF Bay Area added 13,600 jobs in January, propelled by big employment gains in the South Bay with impressive job growth in Silicon Valley, even amid large hi-tech layoffs.

The South Bay added 5,000 jobs in January.

The San Francisco - San Mateo region added 3,400 jobs in January.

The East Bay gained 2,200 jobs in January.

All total, CA added 58,100 jobs in January.

State Unemployment Rate: 5.2%

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We are doing so good:

Newsom Wants to Add $6.4 Billion to California's $1.6 Trillion Debt with Proposition 1

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Who cares? In a "roaring economy" with "record unemployment" Biden manged to take our national debt to more than $34 trillion.

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Raise taxes on the rich

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"The top 5 percent of income earners pay 70 percent of the personal income tax. And the personal income tax is California's biggest source of revenue," said Robert Gutierrez, CEO of the California Taxpayers Association

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Cool story, bro. But the conversation was about Federal debt.

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"In all, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid $723 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90 percent paid $450 billion."

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You've explained where $1.2 trillion of federal revenue came from in 2020. But Federal revenues were $3.4 trillion. Now tell us where the other $2.2 trillion of federal revenue came from.

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We were talking about fed debt. I threw a curve with the CA taxes and debt. Sorry. We spend too much. Both parties.

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Employers in the SF Bay Area added 13,600 jobs in January, propelled by big employment gains in the South Bay with impressive job growth in Silicon Valley, even amid large hi-tech layoffs.

The South Bay added 5,000 jobs in January.

The San Francisco - San Mateo region added 3,400 jobs in January.

The East Bay gained 2,200 jobs in January.

All total, CA added 58,100 jobs in January.

State Unemployment Rate: 5.2%

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We are doing so good:

Newsom Wants to Add $6.4 Billion to California's $1.6 Trillion Debt with Proposition 1

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Who cares? In a "roaring economy" with "record unemployment" Biden manged to take our national debt to more than $34 trillion.

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Raise taxes on the rich

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"The top 5 percent of income earners pay 70 percent of the personal income tax. And the personal income tax is California's biggest source of revenue," said Robert Gutierrez, CEO of the California Taxpayers Association

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Cool story, bro. But the conversation was about Federal debt.

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"In all, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid $723 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90 percent paid $450 billion."

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You've explained where $1.2 trillion of federal revenue came from in 2020. But Federal revenues were $3.4 trillion. Now tell us where the other $2.2 trillion of federal revenue came from.

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We were talking about fed debt. I threw a curve with the CA taxes and debt. Sorry. We spend too much. Both parties.

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You went from irrelevant CA taxes to lacking full context Federal taxes to not wanting to talk about your L anymore.

You should ask yourself. How did you become trained to become so quick to come to the defense of the rich with bad context data?

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Employers in the SF Bay Area added 13,600 jobs in January, propelled by big employment gains in the South Bay with impressive job growth in Silicon Valley, even amid large hi-tech layoffs.

The South Bay added 5,000 jobs in January.

The San Francisco - San Mateo region added 3,400 jobs in January.

The East Bay gained 2,200 jobs in January.

All total, CA added 58,100 jobs in January.

State Unemployment Rate: 5.2%

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We are doing so good:

Newsom Wants to Add $6.4 Billion to California's $1.6 Trillion Debt with Proposition 1

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Who cares? In a "roaring economy" with "record unemployment" Biden manged to take our national debt to more than $34 trillion.

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Raise taxes on the rich

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"The top 5 percent of income earners pay 70 percent of the personal income tax. And the personal income tax is California's biggest source of revenue," said Robert Gutierrez, CEO of the California Taxpayers Association

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Cool story, bro. But the conversation was about Federal debt.

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"In all, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid $723 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90 percent paid $450 billion."

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You've explained where $1.2 trillion of federal revenue came from in 2020. But Federal revenues were $3.4 trillion. Now tell us where the other $2.2 trillion of federal revenue came from.

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We were talking about fed debt. I threw a curve with the CA taxes and debt. Sorry. We spend too much. Both parties.

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You went from irrelevant CA taxes to lacking full context Federal taxes to not wanting to talk about your L anymore.

You should ask yourself. How did you become trained to become so quick to come to the defense of the rich with bad context data?

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Is posting facts about who pays taxes coming to the defense of the rich? Or are you just lonely and looking for an internet fight? Jesus.

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You posted a subset of facts that was biased in favor of the rich, so yes, you have been trained to come to the defense of the rich. Who did that to you?

That was BearForce2, not me.

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That was BearForce2, not me.

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I must have missed your response to him the way you responded to diablo

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Employers in the SF Bay Area added 13,600 jobs in January, propelled by big employment gains in the South Bay with impressive job growth in Silicon Valley, even amid large hi-tech layoffs.

The South Bay added 5,000 jobs in January.

The San Francisco - San Mateo region added 3,400 jobs in January.

The East Bay gained 2,200 jobs in January.

All total, CA added 58,100 jobs in January.

State Unemployment Rate: 5.2%

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We are doing so good:

Newsom Wants to Add $6.4 Billion to California's $1.6 Trillion Debt with Proposition 1

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Who cares? In a "roaring economy" with "record unemployment" Biden manged to take our national debt to more than $34 trillion.

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Raise taxes on the rich

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"The top 5 percent of income earners pay 70 percent of the personal income tax. And the personal income tax is California's biggest source of revenue," said Robert Gutierrez, CEO of the California Taxpayers Association

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Cool story, bro. But the conversation was about Federal debt.

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"In all, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid $723 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90 percent paid $450 billion."

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You've explained where $1.2 trillion of federal revenue came from in 2020. But Federal revenues were $3.4 trillion. Now tell us where the other $2.2 trillion of federal revenue came from.

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We were talking about fed debt. I threw a curve with the CA taxes and debt. Sorry. We spend too much. Both parties.

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You went from irrelevant CA taxes to lacking full context Federal taxes to not wanting to talk about your L anymore.

You should ask yourself. How did you become trained to become so quick to come to the defense of the rich with bad context data?

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Is posting facts about who pays taxes coming to the defense of the rich? Or are you just lonely and looking for an internet fight? Jesus.

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You posted a subset of facts that was biased in favor of the rich, so yes, you have been trained to come to the defense of the rich. Who did that to you?

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You couldn't have gone to Cal, right? Why do you post so frequently on a Cal site when you didn't go to the school? Who trained you to do this?

Hey, this is kinda fun, spewing unfounded claims back and forth to anonymous strangers.

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Instead of deflecting why don't you just tell us where the other $2.2 trillion of Federal revenue came from?

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Employers in the SF Bay Area added 13,600 jobs in January, propelled by big employment gains in the South Bay with impressive job growth in Silicon Valley, even amid large hi-tech layoffs.

The South Bay added 5,000 jobs in January.

The San Francisco - San Mateo region added 3,400 jobs in January.

The East Bay gained 2,200 jobs in January.

All total, CA added 58,100 jobs in January.

State Unemployment Rate: 5.2%

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We are doing so good:

Newsom Wants to Add $6.4 Billion to California's $1.6 Trillion Debt with Proposition 1

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Who cares? In a "roaring economy" with "record unemployment" Biden manged to take our national debt to more than $34 trillion.

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Raise taxes on the rich

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"The top 5 percent of income earners pay 70 percent of the personal income tax. And the personal income tax is California's biggest source of revenue," said Robert Gutierrez, CEO of the California Taxpayers Association

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Cool story, bro. But the conversation was about Federal debt.

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"In all, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid $723 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90 percent paid $450 billion."

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You've explained where $1.2 trillion of federal revenue came from in 2020. But Federal revenues were $3.4 trillion. Now tell us where the other $2.2 trillion of federal revenue came from.

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We were talking about fed debt. I threw a curve with the CA taxes and debt. Sorry. We spend too much. Both parties.

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You went from irrelevant CA taxes to lacking full context Federal taxes to not wanting to talk about your L anymore.

You should ask yourself. How did you become trained to become so quick to come to the defense of the rich with bad context data?

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Is posting facts about who pays taxes coming to the defense of the rich? Or are you just lonely and looking for an internet fight? Jesus.

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You posted a subset of facts that was biased in favor of the rich, so yes, you have been trained to come to the defense of the rich. Who did that to you?

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You couldn't have gone to Cal, right? Why do you post so frequently on a Cal site when you didn't go to the school? Who trained you to do this?

Hey, this is kinda fun, spewing unfounded claims back and forth to anonymous strangers.

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Instead of deflecting why don't you just tell us where the other $2.2 trillion of Federal revenue came from?

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Go review my first post on this in reply to Diablo and then your ramblings. And then go dig holes in your backyard instead of rabbit holes in this thread. Have a good Sunday. I'm walking in SF

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Employers in the SF Bay Area added 13,600 jobs in January, propelled by big employment gains in the South Bay with impressive job growth in Silicon Valley, even amid large hi-tech layoffs.

The South Bay added 5,000 jobs in January.

The San Francisco - San Mateo region added 3,400 jobs in January.

The East Bay gained 2,200 jobs in January.

All total, CA added 58,100 jobs in January.

State Unemployment Rate: 5.2%

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We are doing so good:

Newsom Wants to Add $6.4 Billion to California's $1.6 Trillion Debt with Proposition 1

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Who cares? In a "roaring economy" with "record unemployment" Biden manged to take our national debt to more than $34 trillion.

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Raise taxes on the rich

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"The top 5 percent of income earners pay 70 percent of the personal income tax. And the personal income tax is California's biggest source of revenue," said Robert Gutierrez, CEO of the California Taxpayers Association

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Cool story, bro. But the conversation was about Federal debt.

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"In all, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid $723 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90 percent paid $450 billion."

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You've explained where $1.2 trillion of federal revenue came from in 2020. But Federal revenues were $3.4 trillion. Now tell us where the other $2.2 trillion of federal revenue came from.

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We were talking about fed debt. I threw a curve with the CA taxes and debt. Sorry. We spend too much. Both parties.

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You went from irrelevant CA taxes to lacking full context Federal taxes to not wanting to talk about your L anymore.

You should ask yourself. How did you become trained to become so quick to come to the defense of the rich with bad context data?

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Is posting facts about who pays taxes coming to the defense of the rich? Or are you just lonely and looking for an internet fight? Jesus.

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You posted a subset of facts that was biased in favor of the rich, so yes, you have been trained to come to the defense of the rich. Who did that to you?

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You couldn't have gone to Cal, right? Why do you post so frequently on a Cal site when you didn't go to the school? Who trained you to do this?

Hey, this is kinda fun, spewing unfounded claims back and forth to anonymous strangers.

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Instead of deflecting why don't you just tell us where the other $2.2 trillion of Federal revenue came from?

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Go review my first post on this in reply to Diablo and then your ramblings. And then go dig holes in your backyard instead of rabbit holes in this thread. Have a good Sunday. I'm walking in SF

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Smart move for you to walk away from this discussion rather than answer the question

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Employers in the SF Bay Area added 13,600 jobs in January, propelled by big employment gains in the South Bay with impressive job growth in Silicon Valley, even amid large hi-tech layoffs.

The South Bay added 5,000 jobs in January.

The San Francisco - San Mateo region added 3,400 jobs in January.

The East Bay gained 2,200 jobs in January.

All total, CA added 58,100 jobs in January.

State Unemployment Rate: 5.2%

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We are doing so good:

Newsom Wants to Add $6.4 Billion to California's $1.6 Trillion Debt with Proposition 1

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Who cares? In a "roaring economy" with "record unemployment" Biden manged to take our national debt to more than $34 trillion.

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Raise taxes on the rich

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"The top 5 percent of income earners pay 70 percent of the personal income tax. And the personal income tax is California's biggest source of revenue," said Robert Gutierrez, CEO of the California Taxpayers Association

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Cool story, bro. But the conversation was about Federal debt.

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"In all, the top 1 percent of taxpayers accounted for more income taxes paid than the bottom 90 percent combined. The top 1 percent of taxpayers paid $723 billion in income taxes while the bottom 90 percent paid $450 billion."

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You've explained where $1.2 trillion of federal revenue came from in 2020. But Federal revenues were $3.4 trillion. Now tell us where the other $2.2 trillion of federal revenue came from.

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We were talking about fed debt. I threw a curve with the CA taxes and debt. Sorry. We spend too much. Both parties.

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You went from irrelevant CA taxes to lacking full context Federal taxes to not wanting to talk about your L anymore.

You should ask yourself. How did you become trained to become so quick to come to the defense of the rich with bad context data?

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Is posting facts about who pays taxes coming to the defense of the rich? Or are you just lonely and looking for an internet fight? Jesus.

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You posted a subset of facts that was biased in favor of the rich, so yes, you have been trained to come to the defense of the rich. Who did that to you?

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You couldn't have gone to Cal, right? Why do you post so frequently on a Cal site when you didn't go to the school? Who trained you to do this?

Hey, this is kinda fun, spewing unfounded claims back and forth to anonymous strangers.

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Instead of deflecting why don't you just tell us where the other $2.2 trillion of Federal revenue came from?

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Go review my first post on this in reply to Diablo and then your ramblings. And then go dig holes in your backyard instead of rabbit holes in this thread. Have a good Sunday. I'm walking in SF

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Smart move for you to walk away from this discussion rather than answer the question

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That's SOP for liars, hypocrites, and their moron contributors and voters. I love old school Republicans like 82 pretending to be outraged about Trump, yet they continue to support the policies he pushes, and the party and politicians that enable him.

"I despise Trump! That's why I am voting a straight party line ballot! Just as soon as Trump's RNC sends me the voting 'recommendations' so I don't make a mistake."

I decided I wanted to compare homicide rates in the city of Los Angeles by various decades.

Since data is only available for the first 4 years of this decade, I decided to go with that,.

Homicides in L.A.:

2020: 351
2021: 397
2022: 382
2023: 327
=1457


2010: 293
2011: 297
2012: 299
2013: 251
=1140


2000: 545
2001: 588
2002: 654
2003: 514
=2301


1990: 983
1991: 1027
1992: 1094
1993: 1076
=4180



1980: 1007
1981: 877
1982: 844
1983: 818
=3564


1970: 351
1971: 383
1972: 426
1973: 457
=1617


I couldn't find 1960-1963.

I decided to chart it:




The problem with this chart is that the population changes each decade.

1970-1973: 1617 homicides (Population in 1970: 2.816 million)

1980-1983: 3564 homicides (Population in 1980: 2.967 million)

1990-1993: 4180 homicides (Population in 1990: 3.486 million)

2000-2003: 2301 homicides (Population in 2000: 3.695 million)

2010-2013: 1140 homicides (Population in 2010: 3.793 million)

2020-2023: 1457 homicides (Population in 2020: 3.899 million)


So I decided to average the homicides of the first 4 years of each decade and use the population at the beginning of that decade to determine the number of homicides per 100,000 per year.

Here it is charted:

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No one has mentioned Haiti falling apart again.

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A 'cannibal' gang and its 'Barbecue' leader pull Haiti into chaos

Haiti has descended into chaos and it Prime Minister is unable to return home. Gang leader, infamous as 'Barbecue' for burning people alive and eating body parts has become the most powerful person in Haiti.

Where are the Democrats trying to defend this shathole country now?

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No one has mentioned Haiti falling apart again.

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A 'cannibal' gang and its 'Barbecue' leader pull Haiti into chaos

Haiti has descended into chaos and it Prime Minister is unable to return home. Gang leader, infamous as 'Barbecue' for burning people alive and eating body parts has become the most powerful person in Haiti.

Where are the Democrats trying to defend this shathole country now?

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Things are a bit unclear as far as who or what Jimmy Cherizier aka "Barbecue" is, some decent sources portray him as a grassroots leader who has fought off violent gangs and is being smeared as a result, others see him as another opportunist political figure emerging in a chaotic political and social landscape. But he's not a cannibal, his nickname came from his having run a food stall in his youth.

The Clintons have been the overlords of that struggling country through the 00s and 10s, overseeing the "distribution" of billions of aid money after the 2010 earthquake, a bit like the Bidens in Ukraine. Hillary appointed her brother Tony Rodham on the board of the main Haitian gold mining company which was granted mining rights. Haiti has large gold deposits. Hillary also blocked a raise in the abysmally low Haitian minimum wage on behalf of friends like Donna Karan who were operating sweatshops in Haiti. Hillary also intervened to free up Laura Silsby, who was arrested in a local child trafficking operation.

https://scholarship.law.ufl.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1292&context=facultypub

The invasion accelerates! BBQ and the cannibals are headed to Miami! https://t.co/4wl15i8BGB

— @amuse (@amuse) March 12, 2024

There's better BBQ in the southern U.S. They're coming.

Official sh-thole country?

Official sh-thole country?

No history of law abiding, business building, public and health education?

Trouble in the MAGA House!

Rep. Ken Buck of Colorado is resigning a week from Friday.

Buck criticized dysfunction on Capitol Hill in discussing his decision to leave, telling CNN's Dana Bash, "It is the worst year of the nine years and three months that I've been in Congress and having talked to former members, it's the worst year in 40, 50 years to be in Congress. But I'm leaving because I think there's a job to do out there."

GOP Rep. Ken Buck to leave Congress at end of next week (yahoo.com)

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Official sh-thole country?

No history of law abiding, business building, public and health education?

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That also sounds like a description of the present state of some of America's big cities.

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I'll mark you down as never having been to Haiti.

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Hahahahaaaaaa!

My Puerto Rican friends say it's a corrupt island, too.

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ABC News: Judge throws out 6 counts of Trump's Georgia election interference indictment

The ruling is a win for Trump and several of his co-defendants.

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