SBGold said:

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This is accurate and Fox News is absolute garbage

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The in-the-tank Left MSM ignored Biden's dementia and frail state for over 4 years until exposed by President Trump.

So the oligarchs exchanged one puppet for another, even though Harris never received a single vote.

So please save your hypocritical moralizing.

Cheers.

Kamala Harris is drinking before interviews… pic.twitter.com/favrNNMA5h

— @amuse (@amuse) October 9, 2024

dimitrig said:

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SBGold said:

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I read "Fox News Report" and immediately realized it was likely sleaze journalism that is not credible

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Cool chart. For what I'm familiar with the right side seems accurate and the left side seems a tad generous. Hannity and that ilk of show are almost unfair to include because they aren't news; they are news and opinion, and opinion by definition puts you into a different realm of reliability.

Portland throwing out their whole government.

Drug decriminalization and defunding the police failed. Uncertain future, business and citizens abandon the city.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/09/portland-oregon-2024-elections-00182935

movielover said:

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Portland throwing out their whole government.

Drug decriminalization and defunding the police failed. Uncertain future, business and citizens abandon the city.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/09/portland-oregon-2024-elections-00182935

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I live 10 miles south of downtown Portland. My office is (was) kitty-corner from the park where the riots happened.

The article is extremely well done, balanced and accurate.

Portland and Oregon have always been Blue. But there was a rationality to it that manifested in a quirky but functioning city. Portland was vibrant, clean, safe...it was entirely common to walk downtown and see people eating/drinking outside of pubs and cafes at nearly any hour, it was safe to go into nearly any area of town late at night, etc. Those days are long long gone. Mother's - the restaurant cited in the article - has been THE place to go for breakfast forever. It is now on the cusp of going out of business. Businesses across the street from my office are still boarded up. City blocks are encircled with chain linked fence and the city blocks are filled with homeless people's tents. It is just really really sad to see what Portland has become.

Righties aren't very good at charts and graphs and stuff. Too complicated. They need simple images, using primary colors, with a minimum of information to avoid total confusion.

I am honestly surprised tequila got as much out of it as he did. He took his smart pills, I guess.

AunBear89 said:

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Righties aren't very good at charts and graphs and stuff. Too complicated. They need simple images, using primary colors, with a minimum of information to avoid total confusion.

I am honestly surprised tequila got as much out of it as he did. He took his smart pills, I guess.

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Jesus, you really are on a roll with the personal attacks. Or maybe that was intended to be humor.

Point of order: I used Hannity as an example of mixed news / opinion. The response was that the chart accounts for Opinion. But Hannity is not in the quadrant that correlates to opinion. I humbly accepted the possibility that I simply missed something. Turns out the explanation that the chart accounts for opinion is incomplete or wrong, at least relative to the specific comment that I made.

tequila4kapp said:

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AunBear89 said:

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Righties aren't very good at charts and graphs and stuff. Too complicated. They need simple images, using primary colors, with a minimum of information to avoid total confusion.

I am honestly surprised tequila got as much out of it as he did. He took his smart pills, I guess.

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Jesus, you really are on a roll with the personal attacks. Or maybe that was intended to be humor.

Point of order: I used Hannity as an example of mixed news / opinion. The response was that the chart accounts for Opinion. But Hannity is not in the quadrant that correlates to opinion. I humbly accepted the possibility that I simply missed something. Turns out the explanation that the chart accounts for opinion is incomplete or wrong, at least relative to the specific comment that I made.

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It's basically a scale with "hard news" outlets at the top and it going into "opinion" in the middle and pure propaganda or conspiracy at the bottom. You can intuit that the stuff further below is just another category of opinion, only even less reliable.

They consider Hannity a propaganda outlet. One can agree or disagree with that, but it's not like they ignored the idea that he could be an opinion show.

The important and overlooked aspect about that chart here is that its author is on the pro-establishment left, it's the view from his slant.

movielover said:

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SBGold said:

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This is accurate and Fox News is absolute garbage

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The in-the-tank Left MSM ignored Biden's dementia and frail state for over 4 years until exposed by President Trump.

So the oligarchs exchanged one puppet for another, even though Harris never received a single vote.

So please save your hypocritical moralizing.

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And while most of us were having trouble getting a hold of Covid test kits, the Orange Grifter was sending Vladimir Putin his own personal test kits from Abbott Labs.

Kremlin Confirms Trump Sent Covid Tests To Putin, But Denies Reported Calls Between Them (forbes.com)

I gotta hand it to you Movie Man.
You're without a doubt, the most delusional person on this board.
Congrats!

DiabloWags said:

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Cal88 said:

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The important and overlooked aspect about that chart here is that its author is on the pro-establishment left, it's the view from his slant.

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And just what is your "view" of Trump sending Covid test kits to Putin?
How are you gonna spin that?

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As a basic manifestation of TDS/RDS?

Cal88 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Cal88 said:

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The important and overlooked aspect about that chart here is that its author is on the pro-establishment left, it's the view from his slant.

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And just what is your "view" of Trump sending Covid test kits to Putin?
How are you gonna spin that?

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As a basic manifestation of TDS/RDS?

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Interesting unhinged take

DiabloWags said:

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Cal88 said:

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The important and overlooked aspect about that chart here is that its author is on the pro-establishment left, it's the view from his slant.

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And just what is your "view" of Trump sending Covid test kits to Putin?
How are you gonna spin that?

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My answer - even though you were not asking me - is that I would like more information. Per NPR,

"According to the book, Trump sent the secret shipment of testing equipment to the Russian leader at the height of the pandemic in 2020, even as the U.S. and other nations were facing crippling shortages of testing kits." (emphasis added)

I have read elsewhere that Woodward reports it was 6 (kits/equipment)

As a starting point I would like to get the basic facts of the story correct. What exactly are we talking about and how many?

From there - assuming we are talking about 6 little boxes of self tests - it is a bad look, especially for a guy with an America First agenda. But if it turns out to be 6 self tests it doesn't materially affect the US population and it is probably smart and good for a President to foster good relations with other world leaders, even (maybe especially) an evil SOB like Putin.

tequila4kapp said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Cal88 said:

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The important and overlooked aspect about that chart here is that its author is on the pro-establishment left, it's the view from his slant.

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And just what is your "view" of Trump sending Covid test kits to Putin?
How are you gonna spin that?

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My answer - even though you were not asking me - is that I would like more information. Per NPR,

"According to the book, Trump sent the secret shipment of testing equipment to the Russian leader at the height of the pandemic in 2020, even as the U.S. and other nations were facing crippling shortages of testing kits." (emphasis added)

I have read elsewhere that Woodward reports it was 6 (kits/equipment)

As a starting point I would like to get the basic facts of the story correct. What exactly are we talking about and how many?

From there - assuming we are talking about 6 little boxes of self tests - it is a bad look, especially for a guy with an America First agenda. But if it turns out to be 6 self tests it doesn't materially affect the US population and it is probably smart and good for a President to foster good relations with other world leaders, even (maybe especially) an evil SOB like Putin.

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I would guess that Woodward hid that basic information in order to generate maximum TDS/RDS response.

tequila4kapp said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Cal88 said:

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The important and overlooked aspect about that chart here is that its author is on the pro-establishment left, it's the view from his slant.

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And just what is your "view" of Trump sending Covid test kits to Putin?
How are you gonna spin that?

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My answer - even though you were not asking me - is that I would like more information. Per NPR,

"According to the book, Trump sent the secret shipment of testing equipment to the Russian leader at the height of the pandemic in 2020, even as the U.S. and other nations were facing crippling shortages of testing kits." (emphasis added)

I have read elsewhere that Woodward reports it was 6 (kits/equipment)

As a starting point I would like to get the basic facts of the story correct. What exactly are we talking about and how many?

From there - assuming we are talking about 6 little boxes of self tests - it is a bad look, especially for a guy with an America First agenda. But if it turns out to be 6 self tests it doesn't materially affect the US population and it is probably smart and good for a President to foster good relations with other world leaders, even (maybe especially) an evil SOB like Putin.

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Not boxes, Covid testing machines. When they were in short supply in the U.S.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-covid-testing-devices-phone-calls-kremlin-rcna174632

The Trump Support Apparatus (TSA) that MAGAts use to defend the Repugnant is unreal

tequila4kapp said:

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, you really are on a roll with the personal attacks. Or maybe that was intended to be humor.

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there's a reason he has earned the title, AUNTIFAbear.

tequila4kapp said:

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SBGold said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Cal88 said:

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The important and overlooked aspect about that chart here is that its author is on the pro-establishment left, it's the view from his slant.

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And just what is your "view" of Trump sending Covid test kits to Putin?
How are you gonna spin that?

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My answer - even though you were not asking me - is that I would like more information. Per NPR,

"According to the book, Trump sent the secret shipment of testing equipment to the Russian leader at the height of the pandemic in 2020, even as the U.S. and other nations were facing crippling shortages of testing kits." (emphasis added)

I have read elsewhere that Woodward reports it was 6 (kits/equipment)

As a starting point I would like to get the basic facts of the story correct. What exactly are we talking about and how many?

From there - assuming we are talking about 6 little boxes of self tests - it is a bad look, especially for a guy with an America First agenda. But if it turns out to be 6 self tests it doesn't materially affect the US population and it is probably smart and good for a President to foster good relations with other world leaders, even (maybe especially) an evil SOB like Putin.

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Not boxes, Covid testing machines. When they were in short supply in the U.S.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-covid-testing-devices-phone-calls-kremlin-rcna174632

The Trump Support Apparatus (TSA) that MAGAts use to defend the Repugnant is unreal

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I do not recall that there ever were Covid testing machines. I do not know what that means.

Also, timing matters. When were they sent? Tests in the US began in March 2020 and personal tests were announced in July. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_COVID-19_tests

I am sticking with my core answer - bad look, want details.

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The details will be coming from the Kremlin as they confirmed but Trump's team has denied the gift

MAHA

WATCH: Joe Rogan's brain explodes when he learns that 80% of US medical schools don't require a SINGLE nutrition course.

"Wow!"

And 95% of the people on the USDA food guidelines have a conflict of interest with the food industry.

Dr. Casey Means was stunned to learn that… pic.twitter.com/WcVYzC3GgX

— The Vigilant Fox 🦊 (@VigilantFox) October 9, 2024

tequila4kapp said:

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I do not recall that there ever were Covid testing machines. I do not know what that means.

Also, timing matters. When were they sent? Tests in the US began in March 2020 and personal tests were announced in July. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_COVID-19_tests

I am sticking with my core answer - bad look, want details.

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Detect COVID-19 in as Little as 5 Minutes | Abbott Newsroom

SBGold said:

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This is accurate and Fox News is absolute garbage

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IF @FoxNews deceptively edited a Trump interview, replacing embarrassing answers with remarks from different questions, it would be the lead story on @60Minutes next week.

— John Ondrasik (@johnondrasik) October 9, 2024