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This is crazy...

Injunctions imposed by district court judges and how many of those were issued by judges appointed from opposing party:

Bush- 6 - 3
Obama- 12 - 7
Trump- 64 - 59
Biden- 14 - 14
Trump- 96 - 83

Rogue judges have become activists in robes.

This needs to change.

— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) March 19, 2025

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You don't think this is because the Trump team is deliberately "testing the fences" and doing stuff they know is likely to be challenged in court? Some of them have even talked about this, "wanting the fight" so stuff can get escalated to the Supreme Court. You can't employ this strategy and then complain about injunctions.

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MinotStateBeav said:

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This is crazy...

Injunctions imposed by district court judges and how many of those were issued by judges appointed from opposing party:

Bush- 6 - 3
Obama- 12 - 7
Trump- 64 - 59
Biden- 14 - 14
Trump- 96 - 83

Rogue judges have become activists in robes.

This needs to change.

— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) March 19, 2025

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You don't think this is because the Trump team is deliberately "testing the fences" and doing stuff they know is likely to be challenged in court? Some of them have even talked about this, "wanting the fight" so stuff can get escalated to the Supreme Court. You can't employ this strategy and then complain about injunctions.

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The number of challenges could be attributed to that cause. But notice the ratio of cases handled by judges from the opposing party.

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This is crazy...

Injunctions imposed by district court judges and how many of those were issued by judges appointed from opposing party:

Bush- 6 - 3
Obama- 12 - 7
Trump- 64 - 59
Biden- 14 - 14
Trump- 96 - 83

Rogue judges have become activists in robes.

This needs to change.

— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) March 19, 2025

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You don't think this is because the Trump team is deliberately "testing the fences" and doing stuff they know is likely to be challenged in court? Some of them have even talked about this, "wanting the fight" so stuff can get escalated to the Supreme Court. You can't employ this strategy and then complain about injunctions.

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The number of challenges could be attributed to that cause. But notice the ratio of cases handled by judges from the opposing party.

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Biden's ratio is at 100%. And?

Right. Post Obama - when Reid killed judicial Filibuster in 2013 - partisan judges matriculated into the judiciary and the opposing party forum shopped for District Judges to issue national TRO's.

Minnesota lawmaker behind 'Trump derangement syndrome' bill accused of soliciting minor

Minnesota State Senator Justin Eichorn arrested for soliciting a minor.

Thought he was meeting a 17 year old girl.
Turned out to be a local police officer.

MAGA!

He's probably still only the runner up for the Larry Craig Degenerate of the Year Award.

"To me, clowns aren't funny. In fact, they're kind of scary. I've wondered where this started and I think it goes back to the time I went to the circus, and a clown killed my dad."
Jack Handey



Creepy reason McDonald's clown was slowly phased out


https://www.irishstar.com/news/us-news/creepy-reason-mcdonalds-clown-slowly-34894596?utm_source=app

"Under the username @typical_democrat, Harry Sisson started getting involved in American politics while living in Europe in 2016" = Typical young Democrat?

Young woman roasts Christopher Steele. What a pompous @ss.

Given that I wrote a book on the fraudulent Steele dossier, I want to say that watching Natalie absolutely destroy Steele on Piers' show was pure gold. He probably thought he could show up, spin his usual lies, and hold his own. Instead, he got wrecked. pic.twitter.com/U9nmZztvUe

— Hans Mahncke (@HansMahncke) March 20, 2025

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"Under the username @typical_democrat, Harry Sisson started getting involved in American politics while living in Europe in 2016" = Typical young Democrat?

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Feels like this week is the end of the Democrat party as a political force that can win elections.

They don’t know it yet. Of course.

— Scott Adams (@ScottAdamsSays) March 19, 2025

The tank is empty, there's nothing left for the party?

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movielover said:

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"Under the username @typical_democrat, Harry Sisson started getting involved in American politics while living in Europe in 2016" = Typical young Democrat?

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Feels like this week is the end of the Democrat party as a political force that can win elections.

They don’t know it yet. Of course.

— Scott Adams (@ScottAdamsSays) March 19, 2025

The tank is empty, there's nothing left for the party?

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It's always darkest just before dawn.

or...

Schumer is taking James Carville's advice and playing possum.

A UW fellow and Georgetown PHD candidate have been detained for deportation. Based on what I'm seeing so far they have 'supported' Hezbellah (with words) and associated with Hamas (the PHD candidates' father in law was an advisor to a Hamas leader). Unless there are additional facts indicating something more than thoughts/words/family members...this is a step too far, wrong and un-American.

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A UW fellow and Georgetown PHD candidate have been detained for deportation. Based on what I'm seeing so far they have 'supported' Hezbellah (with words) and associated with Hamas (the PHD candidates' father in law was an advisor to a Hamas leader). Unless there are additional facts indicating something more than thoughts/words/family members...this is a step too far, wrong and un-American.

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I'd wait for more information to come out before commenting.

The US fell to 24th place in a ranking of the world's happiest countries, its lowest-ever level. Researchers highlighted the importance of social trust and belief in others' kindness as key factors.

Finland once again took the top spot.

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A UW fellow and Georgetown PHD candidate have been detained for deportation. Based on what I'm seeing so far they have 'supported' Hezbellah (with words) and associated with Hamas (the PHD candidates' father in law was an advisor to a Hamas leader). Unless there are additional facts indicating something more than thoughts/words/family members...this is a step too far, wrong and un-American.

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This fits with the same pattern as the Columbia student who got arrested. The government still has not presented any evidence of actual material support for terrorism from him either . . . again, it's all just speech. This all sets a very, very bad precedent.

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A UW fellow and Georgetown PHD candidate have been detained for deportation. Based on what I'm seeing so far they have 'supported' Hezbellah (with words) and associated with Hamas (the PHD candidates' father in law was an advisor to a Hamas leader). Unless there are additional facts indicating something more than thoughts/words/family members...this is a step too far, wrong and un-American.

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This fits with the same pattern as the Columbia student who got arrested. The government still has not presented any evidence of actual material support for terrorism from him either . . . again, it's all just speech. This all sets a very, very bad precedent.

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Yes, speech is the link. Why do you think green card and visa holders can say anything they want? They cannot. If they would have told the government they were pro-hamas before entering they would have been denied entry. Green card holders are not naturalized citizens. Their entrance into the United States comes with responsibility. We do not want to be importing people into the USA that cause social disruption, that would be catastrophic.

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sycasey said:

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A UW fellow and Georgetown PHD candidate have been detained for deportation. Based on what I'm seeing so far they have 'supported' Hezbellah (with words) and associated with Hamas (the PHD candidates' father in law was an advisor to a Hamas leader). Unless there are additional facts indicating something more than thoughts/words/family members...this is a step too far, wrong and un-American.

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This fits with the same pattern as the Columbia student who got arrested. The government still has not presented any evidence of actual material support for terrorism from him either . . . again, it's all just speech. This all sets a very, very bad precedent.

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Yes, speech is the link. Why do you think green card and visa holders can say anything they want? They cannot. If they would have told the government they were pro-hamas before entering they would have been denied entry. Green card holders are not naturalized citizens. Their entrance into the United States comes with responsibility. We do not want to be importing people into the USA that cause social disruption, that would be catastrophic.

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I think that because that's basically how it had been until the Trump administration came along and decided it wasn't.

And even if all of this is technically legal (I am very dubious of that w/r/t green card holders), do you really want to live in this kind of country? Where people who are living here and working legally towards full citizenship are told that they can't criticize a foreign country or else they might be "in conflict" with current US foreign policy and therefore will have their status revoked? I don't.

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A UW fellow and Georgetown PHD candidate have been detained for deportation. Based on what I'm seeing so far they have 'supported' Hezbellah (with words) and associated with Hamas (the PHD candidates' father in law was an advisor to a Hamas leader). Unless there are additional facts indicating something more than thoughts/words/family members...this is a step too far, wrong and un-American.

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This fits with the same pattern as the Columbia student who got arrested. The government still has not presented any evidence of actual material support for terrorism from him either . . . again, it's all just speech. This all sets a very, very bad precedent.

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Yes, speech is the link. Why do you think green card and visa holders can say anything they want? They cannot. If they would have told the government they were pro-hamas before entering they would have been denied entry. Green card holders are not naturalized citizens. Their entrance into the United States comes with responsibility. We do not want to be importing people into the USA that cause social disruption, that would be catastrophic.

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I think that because that's basically how it had been until the Trump administration came along and decided it wasn't.

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No it was allowed by people who don't care for the law. The same people that erased the US border and flew people into the country with little to no background checking. Yes, I do want this. The mass importing of people into the United States needs to stop.

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tequila4kapp said:

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A UW fellow and Georgetown PHD candidate have been detained for deportation. Based on what I'm seeing so far they have 'supported' Hezbellah (with words) and associated with Hamas (the PHD candidates' father in law was an advisor to a Hamas leader). Unless there are additional facts indicating something more than thoughts/words/family members...this is a step too far, wrong and un-American.

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This fits with the same pattern as the Columbia student who got arrested. The government still has not presented any evidence of actual material support for terrorism from him either . . . again, it's all just speech. This all sets a very, very bad precedent.

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Yes, speech is the link. Why do you think green card and visa holders can say anything they want? They cannot. If they would have told the government they were pro-hamas before entering they would have been denied entry. Green card holders are not naturalized citizens. Their entrance into the United States comes with responsibility. We do not want to be importing people into the USA that cause social disruption, that would be catastrophic.

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I think that because that's basically how it had been until the Trump administration came along and decided it wasn't.

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No it was allowed by people who don't care for the law. The same people that erased the US border and flew people into the country with little to no background checking. Yes, I do want this. The mass importing of people into the United States needs to stop.

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You can slow immigration without trampling over free speech. One does not require the other. This is a foolish argument. You're letting your xenophobia override all principle and reason.

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A UW fellow and Georgetown PHD candidate have been detained for deportation. Based on what I'm seeing so far they have 'supported' Hezbellah (with words) and associated with Hamas (the PHD candidates' father in law was an advisor to a Hamas leader). Unless there are additional facts indicating something more than thoughts/words/family members...this is a step too far, wrong and un-American.

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This fits with the same pattern as the Columbia student who got arrested. The government still has not presented any evidence of actual material support for terrorism from him either . . . again, it's all just speech. This all sets a very, very bad precedent.

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Yes, speech is the link. Why do you think green card and visa holders can say anything they want? They cannot. If they would have told the government they were pro-hamas before entering they would have been denied entry. Green card holders are not naturalized citizens. Their entrance into the United States comes with responsibility. We do not want to be importing people into the USA that cause social disruption, that would be catastrophic.

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I think that because that's basically how it had been until the Trump administration came along and decided it wasn't.

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No it was allowed by people who don't care for the law. The same people that erased the US border and flew people into the country with little to no background checking. Yes, I do want this. The mass importing of people into the United States needs to stop.

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You can slow immigration without trampling over free speech. One does not require the other. This is a foolish argument. You're letting your xenophobia override all principle and reason.

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Free Speech is mostly for American Citizens.

MIGA! Conor McGregor has officially announced that he will be running for President of Ireland in November. pic.twitter.com/IgTAFEb0fr

— @amuse (@amuse) March 20, 2025

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A UW fellow and Georgetown PHD candidate have been detained for deportation. Based on what I'm seeing so far they have 'supported' Hezbellah (with words) and associated with Hamas (the PHD candidates' father in law was an advisor to a Hamas leader). Unless there are additional facts indicating something more than thoughts/words/family members...this is a step too far, wrong and un-American.

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This fits with the same pattern as the Columbia student who got arrested. The government still has not presented any evidence of actual material support for terrorism from him either . . . again, it's all just speech. This all sets a very, very bad precedent.

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Yes, speech is the link. Why do you think green card and visa holders can say anything they want? They cannot. If they would have told the government they were pro-hamas before entering they would have been denied entry. Green card holders are not naturalized citizens. Their entrance into the United States comes with responsibility. We do not want to be importing people into the USA that cause social disruption, that would be catastrophic.

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I think that because that's basically how it had been until the Trump administration came along and decided it wasn't.

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No it was allowed by people who don't care for the law. The same people that erased the US border and flew people into the country with little to no background checking. Yes, I do want this. The mass importing of people into the United States needs to stop.

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You can slow immigration without trampling over free speech. One does not require the other. This is a foolish argument. You're letting your xenophobia override all principle and reason.

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Free Speech is mostly for American Citizens.

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Wrong.

🚨BREAKING: Attorney General Pam Bondi just announced charges against 3 Tesla terrorists: pic.twitter.com/JEiqIRXNgX

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) March 20, 2025

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A UW fellow and Georgetown PHD candidate have been detained for deportation. Based on what I'm seeing so far they have 'supported' Hezbellah (with words) and associated with Hamas (the PHD candidates' father in law was an advisor to a Hamas leader). Unless there are additional facts indicating something more than thoughts/words/family members...this is a step too far, wrong and un-American.

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This fits with the same pattern as the Columbia student who got arrested. The government still has not presented any evidence of actual material support for terrorism from him either . . . again, it's all just speech. This all sets a very, very bad precedent.

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Yes, speech is the link. Why do you think green card and visa holders can say anything they want? They cannot. If they would have told the government they were pro-hamas before entering they would have been denied entry. Green card holders are not naturalized citizens. Their entrance into the United States comes with responsibility. We do not want to be importing people into the USA that cause social disruption, that would be catastrophic.

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I think that because that's basically how it had been until the Trump administration came along and decided it wasn't.

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No it was allowed by people who don't care for the law. The same people that erased the US border and flew people into the country with little to no background checking. Yes, I do want this. The mass importing of people into the United States needs to stop.

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You can slow immigration without trampling over free speech. One does not require the other. This is a foolish argument. You're letting your xenophobia override all principle and reason.

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Free Speech is mostly for American Citizens.

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Wrong.

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While immigrants have the right to free speech, there are potential challenges to exercising those rights, such as the possibility of deportation or other negative consequences for engaging in political activity.

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A UW fellow and Georgetown PHD candidate have been detained for deportation. Based on what I'm seeing so far they have 'supported' Hezbellah (with words) and associated with Hamas (the PHD candidates' father in law was an advisor to a Hamas leader). Unless there are additional facts indicating something more than thoughts/words/family members...this is a step too far, wrong and un-American.

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This fits with the same pattern as the Columbia student who got arrested. The government still has not presented any evidence of actual material support for terrorism from him either . . . again, it's all just speech. This all sets a very, very bad precedent.

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Yes, speech is the link. Why do you think green card and visa holders can say anything they want? They cannot. If they would have told the government they were pro-hamas before entering they would have been denied entry. Green card holders are not naturalized citizens. Their entrance into the United States comes with responsibility. We do not want to be importing people into the USA that cause social disruption, that would be catastrophic.

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I think that because that's basically how it had been until the Trump administration came along and decided it wasn't.

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No it was allowed by people who don't care for the law. The same people that erased the US border and flew people into the country with little to no background checking. Yes, I do want this. The mass importing of people into the United States needs to stop.

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You can slow immigration without trampling over free speech. One does not require the other. This is a foolish argument. You're letting your xenophobia override all principle and reason.

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Free Speech is mostly for American Citizens.

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Wrong.

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While immigrants have the right to free speech, there are potential challenges to exercising those rights, such as the possibility of deportation or other negative consequences for engaging in political activity.

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This might be true in a strict legal sense (though again, I'm skeptical about the green card claims), but historically it hasn't been the case and IMO it SHOULDN'T be the case. If J.D. Vance wants to go to Europe and scold them about free speech rights then his government can't turn around and pull this crap at home.

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A UW fellow and Georgetown PHD candidate have been detained for deportation. Based on what I'm seeing so far they have 'supported' Hezbellah (with words) and associated with Hamas (the PHD candidates' father in law was an advisor to a Hamas leader). Unless there are additional facts indicating something more than thoughts/words/family members...this is a step too far, wrong and un-American.

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This fits with the same pattern as the Columbia student who got arrested. The government still has not presented any evidence of actual material support for terrorism from him either . . . again, it's all just speech. This all sets a very, very bad precedent.

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Promises made, promises kept.

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A UW fellow and Georgetown PHD candidate have been detained for deportation. Based on what I'm seeing so far they have 'supported' Hezbellah (with words) and associated with Hamas (the PHD candidates' father in law was an advisor to a Hamas leader). Unless there are additional facts indicating something more than thoughts/words/family members...this is a step too far, wrong and un-American.

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Here's the story:

SCOOP: Hooded ICE agents snatched Indian-born Georgetown postdoc Badar Suri from Rosslyn street Monday, per court filing. Like Khalil, linked to pro-Palestinian views & Rubio 'foreign policy' power, lawyer says. Then whisked to Louisiana. w/@kyledcheney https://t.co/ZYqkXfRnTo

— Josh Gerstein (@joshgerstein) March 19, 2025

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A UW fellow and Georgetown PHD candidate have been detained for deportation. Based on what I'm seeing so far they have 'supported' Hezbellah (with words) and associated with Hamas (the PHD candidates' father in law was an advisor to a Hamas leader). Unless there are additional facts indicating something more than thoughts/words/family members...this is a step too far, wrong and un-American.

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This fits with the same pattern as the Columbia student who got arrested. The government still has not presented any evidence of actual material support for terrorism from him either . . . again, it's all just speech. This all sets a very, very bad precedent.

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Yes, speech is the link. Why do you think green card and visa holders can say anything they want? They cannot. If they would have told the government they were pro-hamas before entering they would have been denied entry. Green card holders are not naturalized citizens. Their entrance into the United States comes with responsibility. We do not want to be importing people into the USA that cause social disruption, that would be catastrophic.

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Would you feel the same if the shoe was on the other foot, and permanent residents were getting deported by a Democrat administration for protesting against say, covid mandates, or other activities deemed "socially disruptive" by the administration in office?

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A UW fellow and Georgetown PHD candidate have been detained for deportation. Based on what I'm seeing so far they have 'supported' Hezbellah (with words) and associated with Hamas (the PHD candidates' father in law was an advisor to a Hamas leader). Unless there are additional facts indicating something more than thoughts/words/family members...this is a step too far, wrong and un-American.

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This fits with the same pattern as the Columbia student who got arrested. The government still has not presented any evidence of actual material support for terrorism from him either . . . again, it's all just speech. This all sets a very, very bad precedent.

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Promises made, promises kept.

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Except part of the implicit "promise" from the Right in the last election was that they wouldn't be policing your speech like all those annoying wokesters on the Left. Turns out they are just as bad, if not worse.

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A UW fellow and Georgetown PHD candidate have been detained for deportation. Based on what I'm seeing so far they have 'supported' Hezbellah (with words) and associated with Hamas (the PHD candidates' father in law was an advisor to a Hamas leader). Unless there are additional facts indicating something more than thoughts/words/family members...this is a step too far, wrong and un-American.

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This fits with the same pattern as the Columbia student who got arrested. The government still has not presented any evidence of actual material support for terrorism from him either . . . again, it's all just speech. This all sets a very, very bad precedent.

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Yes, speech is the link. Why do you think green card and visa holders can say anything they want? They cannot. If they would have told the government they were pro-hamas before entering they would have been denied entry. Green card holders are not naturalized citizens. Their entrance into the United States comes with responsibility. We do not want to be importing people into the USA that cause social disruption, that would be catastrophic.

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Would you feel the same if the shoe was on the other foot, and permanent residents were getting deported by a Democrat administration for protesting against say, covid mandates, or other activities deemed "socially disruptive" by the administration in office?

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American born citizens are not the same as GUESTS to the USA. They literally can not do that.

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A UW fellow and Georgetown PHD candidate have been detained for deportation. Based on what I'm seeing so far they have 'supported' Hezbellah (with words) and associated with Hamas (the PHD candidates' father in law was an advisor to a Hamas leader). Unless there are additional facts indicating something more than thoughts/words/family members...this is a step too far, wrong and un-American.

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This fits with the same pattern as the Columbia student who got arrested. The government still has not presented any evidence of actual material support for terrorism from him either . . . again, it's all just speech. This all sets a very, very bad precedent.

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Yes, speech is the link. Why do you think green card and visa holders can say anything they want? They cannot. If they would have told the government they were pro-hamas before entering they would have been denied entry. Green card holders are not naturalized citizens. Their entrance into the United States comes with responsibility. We do not want to be importing people into the USA that cause social disruption, that would be catastrophic.

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Would you feel the same if the shoe was on the other foot, and permanent residents were getting deported by a Democrat administration for protesting against say, covid mandates, or other activities deemed "socially disruptive" by the administration in office?

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American born citizens are not the same as GUESTS to the USA. They literally can not do that.

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I don't think you understood the question.

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A UW fellow and Georgetown PHD candidate have been detained for deportation. Based on what I'm seeing so far they have 'supported' Hezbellah (with words) and associated with Hamas (the PHD candidates' father in law was an advisor to a Hamas leader). Unless there are additional facts indicating something more than thoughts/words/family members...this is a step too far, wrong and un-American.

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This fits with the same pattern as the Columbia student who got arrested. The government still has not presented any evidence of actual material support for terrorism from him either . . . again, it's all just speech. This all sets a very, very bad precedent.

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Yes, speech is the link. Why do you think green card and visa holders can say anything they want? They cannot. If they would have told the government they were pro-hamas before entering they would have been denied entry. Green card holders are not naturalized citizens. Their entrance into the United States comes with responsibility. We do not want to be importing people into the USA that cause social disruption, that would be catastrophic.

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Would you feel the same if the shoe was on the other foot, and permanent residents were getting deported by a Democrat administration for protesting against say, covid mandates, or other activities deemed "socially disruptive" by the administration in office?

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American born citizens are not the same as GUESTS to the USA. They literally can not do that.

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I don't think you understood the question.

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I understand the question, but I'm not falling to appeals of emotion. The law is pretty clear here. If Democrats had a way to deport conservatives they would 100% do it. but they don't.

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A UW fellow and Georgetown PHD candidate have been detained for deportation. Based on what I'm seeing so far they have 'supported' Hezbellah (with words) and associated with Hamas (the PHD candidates' father in law was an advisor to a Hamas leader). Unless there are additional facts indicating something more than thoughts/words/family members...this is a step too far, wrong and un-American.

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This fits with the same pattern as the Columbia student who got arrested. The government still has not presented any evidence of actual material support for terrorism from him either . . . again, it's all just speech. This all sets a very, very bad precedent.

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Yes, speech is the link. Why do you think green card and visa holders can say anything they want? They cannot. If they would have told the government they were pro-hamas before entering they would have been denied entry. Green card holders are not naturalized citizens. Their entrance into the United States comes with responsibility. We do not want to be importing people into the USA that cause social disruption, that would be catastrophic.

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Would you feel the same if the shoe was on the other foot, and permanent residents were getting deported by a Democrat administration for protesting against say, covid mandates, or other activities deemed "socially disruptive" by the administration in office?

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American born citizens are not the same as GUESTS to the USA. They literally can not do that.

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I don't think you understood the question.

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I understand the question, but I'm not falling to appeals of emotion. The law is pretty clear here. If Democrats had a way to deport conservatives they would 100% do it. but they don't.

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He literally gave the (hypothetical) example of a permanent resident (green card holder) who said something Democrats didn't like (COVID mandates are bad) and them using their power to deport that person. Literally the same as the one you are defending here, just from the other side.

You did not understand the question. It wasn't about conservative American citizens.

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tequila4kapp said:

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A UW fellow and Georgetown PHD candidate have been detained for deportation. Based on what I'm seeing so far they have 'supported' Hezbellah (with words) and associated with Hamas (the PHD candidates' father in law was an advisor to a Hamas leader). Unless there are additional facts indicating something more than thoughts/words/family members...this is a step too far, wrong and un-American.

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This fits with the same pattern as the Columbia student who got arrested. The government still has not presented any evidence of actual material support for terrorism from him either . . . again, it's all just speech. This all sets a very, very bad precedent.

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Yes, speech is the link. Why do you think green card and visa holders can say anything they want? They cannot. If they would have told the government they were pro-hamas before entering they would have been denied entry. Green card holders are not naturalized citizens. Their entrance into the United States comes with responsibility. We do not want to be importing people into the USA that cause social disruption, that would be catastrophic.

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Would you feel the same if the shoe was on the other foot, and permanent residents were getting deported by a Democrat administration for protesting against say, covid mandates, or other activities deemed "socially disruptive" by the administration in office?

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American born citizens are not the same as GUESTS to the USA. They literally can not do that.

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I don't think you understood the question.

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I understand the question, but I'm not falling to appeals of emotion. The law is pretty clear here. If Democrats had a way to deport conservatives they would 100% do it. but they don't.

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The first guy led demonstrations that denied Jews access to education, distributed pro-Hamas materials, Jews were threatened at protests. That's not exactly plotting the next 9/11, but fine. Affirmative actions were taken that denied other's rights and advocated for a terrorist hroip. Fine / good, get rid of him.

The Georgetown guy has a father in law that advised a Hamas leader. We are America. This isn't 1950s McCarthyism - we don't punish people for mere associations and beliefs. Even for green card holders.

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The first guy led demonstrations that denied Jews access to education

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Absolutely false.

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Jews were threatened at protests.

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Ditto.