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Aside from shuttling Trump to his frequent golf outings and to Mar-A-Lago, it probably wouldn't be used more than a couple of times a month. It's not like it's making a couple of flights a day like it would with an airline.oski003 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:I can see no reason for a Presidential Library to need a nearly new and lightly used 747.tequila4kapp said:
Is this the thread where we are discussing Qatar? I previously was dismissive of the criticism, claiming the plane was going to the DOD/USAF. I am here to correct the record and change my tune. More recent reports indicate the plane with then be transferred to Trump's Presidential Library in 2029. If this plane is in any way used by Trump after 2029...this is total BS. Personal gifts are not allowed.
Wouldn't it be used by the US Government for 4 years?
Eastern Oregon Bear said:Aside from shuttling Trump to his frequent golf outings and to Mar-A-Lago, it probably wouldn't be used more than a couple of times a month. It's not like it's making a couple of flights a day like it would with an airline.oski003 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:I can see no reason for a Presidential Library to need a nearly new and lightly used 747.tequila4kapp said:
Is this the thread where we are discussing Qatar? I previously was dismissive of the criticism, claiming the plane was going to the DOD/USAF. I am here to correct the record and change my tune. More recent reports indicate the plane with then be transferred to Trump's Presidential Library in 2029. If this plane is in any way used by Trump after 2029...this is total BS. Personal gifts are not allowed.
Wouldn't it be used by the US Government for 4 years?
If the Trump Presidential Library paid the US Government the going rate for used 747s, then I have no problem with that. I suspect no cash will change hands though.
OK, I didn't know that Presidential Libraries are owned by the federal government. I still see no reason why a Presidential Library needs a 747, except as a museum piece. That would be a waste of a perfectly good passenger jet.oski003 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:Aside from shuttling Trump to his frequent golf outings and to Mar-A-Lago, it probably wouldn't be used more than a couple of times a month. It's not like it's making a couple of flights a day like it would with an airline.oski003 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:I can see no reason for a Presidential Library to need a nearly new and lightly used 747.tequila4kapp said:
Is this the thread where we are discussing Qatar? I previously was dismissive of the criticism, claiming the plane was going to the DOD/USAF. I am here to correct the record and change my tune. More recent reports indicate the plane with then be transferred to Trump's Presidential Library in 2029. If this plane is in any way used by Trump after 2029...this is total BS. Personal gifts are not allowed.
Wouldn't it be used by the US Government for 4 years?
If the Trump Presidential Library paid the US Government the going rate for used 747s, then I have no problem with that. I suspect no cash will change hands though.
Yet, presidential libraries aren't private businesses. They are federally owned and belong to the American people.
His health issues are no surprise … it’s was in the open, they just told us that our eyes are not seeing what we saw. pic.twitter.com/yCtwwQsgEr
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movielover said:
Joe Biden has been diagnosed an aggressive prostate cancer.
If I were his family member, I'd consider adding Ivermectin to his treatment protocol as it is safer than Ibuprofen, and preliminary studies and anecdotes show remarkable success w cancers of all types. It apparently acts via multiple pathways.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/former-president-joe-bidens-cancer-diagnosis-gleason-score/story?id=121932715
tequila4kapp said:
Any oncologists on here? Is it possible to go from zero cancer to this advanced stage this quickly?
tequila4kapp said:
Any oncologists on here? Is it possible to go from zero cancer to this advanced stage this quickly?
Also, game this out: if they are supposed to use this as "Air Force One," I don't think you can just take a plane from anywhere and immediately make it AF1. It would have to be outfitted with all the required security and functions needed for the Presidential plane. How long will that take? Probably years. So how much use will it even get before Trump's term is over and it would have to be mothballed at the library?Eastern Oregon Bear said:OK, I didn't know that Presidential Libraries are owned by the federal government. I still see no reason why a Presidential Library needs a 747, except as a museum piece. That would be a waste of a perfectly good passenger jet.oski003 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:Aside from shuttling Trump to his frequent golf outings and to Mar-A-Lago, it probably wouldn't be used more than a couple of times a month. It's not like it's making a couple of flights a day like it would with an airline.oski003 said:Eastern Oregon Bear said:I can see no reason for a Presidential Library to need a nearly new and lightly used 747.tequila4kapp said:
Is this the thread where we are discussing Qatar? I previously was dismissive of the criticism, claiming the plane was going to the DOD/USAF. I am here to correct the record and change my tune. More recent reports indicate the plane with then be transferred to Trump's Presidential Library in 2029. If this plane is in any way used by Trump after 2029...this is total BS. Personal gifts are not allowed.
Wouldn't it be used by the US Government for 4 years?
If the Trump Presidential Library paid the US Government the going rate for used 747s, then I have no problem with that. I suspect no cash will change hands though.
Yet, presidential libraries aren't private businesses. They are federally owned and belong to the American people.
tequila4kapp said:
Is this the thread where we are discussing the plane from Qatar? I previously was dismissive of the criticism, claiming the plane was going to the DOD/USAF. I am here to correct the record and change my tune. More recent reports indicate the plane with then be transferred to Trump's Presidential Library in 2029. If this plane is in any way used by Trump after 2029...this is total BS. Personal gifts are not allowed.
tequila4kapp said:
Any oncologists on here? Is it possible to go from zero cancer to this advanced stage this quickly?
tequila4kapp said:
Any oncologists on here? Is it possible to go from zero cancer to this advanced stage this quickly?
sycasey said:
Also, game this out: if they are supposed to use this as "Air Force One," I don't think you can just take a plane from anywhere and immediately make it AF1. It would have to be outfitted with all the required security and functions needed for the Presidential plane. How long will that take? Probably years. So how much use will it even get before Trump's term is over and it would have to be mothballed at the library?
Given all of that, it doesn't pass the smell test that Trump only wants to accept the plane so it can sit in a library. It's a personal gift and they are trying to use a smokescreen to pretend that it isn't.
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
OK, I didn't know that Presidential Libraries are owned by the federal government. I still see no reason why a Presidential Library needs a 747, except as a museum piece. That would be a waste of a perfectly good passenger jet.
DiabloWags said:sycasey said:
Also, game this out: if they are supposed to use this as "Air Force One," I don't think you can just take a plane from anywhere and immediately make it AF1. It would have to be outfitted with all the required security and functions needed for the Presidential plane. How long will that take? Probably years. So how much use will it even get before Trump's term is over and it would have to be mothballed at the library?
Given all of that, it doesn't pass the smell test that Trump only wants to accept the plane so it can sit in a library. It's a personal gift and they are trying to use a smokescreen to pretend that it isn't.
What many are missing here is that the Administration is doing nothing other than getting an airplane frame.
That $400 million dollar "gift" from Qatar is going to have to be stripped all the way down to the freaking rivets to examine for surveillance devices, then rebuilt from the studs outfitting it with all kinds of intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) equipment (which is what L3-Harris does).
This is no bargain.
It's not even a corrupt bargain.
It's just corrupt.
DiabloWags said:tequila4kapp said:
Any oncologists on here? Is it possible to go from zero cancer to this advanced stage this quickly?
Yes.
tequila4kapp said:
Any oncologists on here? Is it possible to go from zero cancer to this advanced stage this quickly?
DiabloWags said:sycasey said:
Also, game this out: if they are supposed to use this as "Air Force One," I don't think you can just take a plane from anywhere and immediately make it AF1. It would have to be outfitted with all the required security and functions needed for the Presidential plane. How long will that take? Probably years. So how much use will it even get before Trump's term is over and it would have to be mothballed at the library?
Given all of that, it doesn't pass the smell test that Trump only wants to accept the plane so it can sit in a library. It's a personal gift and they are trying to use a smokescreen to pretend that it isn't.
What many are missing here is that the Administration is doing nothing other than getting an airplane frame.
That $400 million dollar "gift" from Qatar is going to have to be stripped all the way down to the freaking rivets to examine for surveillance devices, then rebuilt from the studs outfitting it with all kinds of intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) equipment (which is what L3-Harris does).
This is no bargain.
It's not even a corrupt bargain.
It's just corrupt.
movielover said:DiabloWags said:sycasey said:
Also, game this out: if they are supposed to use this as "Air Force One," I don't think you can just take a plane from anywhere and immediately make it AF1. It would have to be outfitted with all the required security and functions needed for the Presidential plane. How long will that take? Probably years. So how much use will it even get before Trump's term is over and it would have to be mothballed at the library?
Given all of that, it doesn't pass the smell test that Trump only wants to accept the plane so it can sit in a library. It's a personal gift and they are trying to use a smokescreen to pretend that it isn't.
What many are missing here is that the Administration is doing nothing other than getting an airplane frame.
That $400 million dollar "gift" from Qatar is going to have to be stripped all the way down to the freaking rivets to examine for surveillance devices, then rebuilt from the studs outfitting it with all kinds of intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) equipment (which is what L3-Harris does).
This is no bargain.
It's not even a corrupt bargain.
It's just corrupt.
Assumptions, party of one.
movielover said:DiabloWags said:sycasey said:
Also, game this out: if they are supposed to use this as "Air Force One," I don't think you can just take a plane from anywhere and immediately make it AF1. It would have to be outfitted with all the required security and functions needed for the Presidential plane. How long will that take? Probably years. So how much use will it even get before Trump's term is over and it would have to be mothballed at the library?
Given all of that, it doesn't pass the smell test that Trump only wants to accept the plane so it can sit in a library. It's a personal gift and they are trying to use a smokescreen to pretend that it isn't.
What many are missing here is that the Administration is doing nothing other than getting an airplane frame.
That $400 million dollar "gift" from Qatar is going to have to be stripped all the way down to the freaking rivets to examine for surveillance devices, then rebuilt from the studs outfitting it with all kinds of intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) equipment (which is what L3-Harris does).
This is no bargain.
It's not even a corrupt bargain.
It's just corrupt.
Assumptions, party of one.
DiabloWags said:movielover said:DiabloWags said:sycasey said:
Also, game this out: if they are supposed to use this as "Air Force One," I don't think you can just take a plane from anywhere and immediately make it AF1. It would have to be outfitted with all the required security and functions needed for the Presidential plane. How long will that take? Probably years. So how much use will it even get before Trump's term is over and it would have to be mothballed at the library?
Given all of that, it doesn't pass the smell test that Trump only wants to accept the plane so it can sit in a library. It's a personal gift and they are trying to use a smokescreen to pretend that it isn't.
What many are missing here is that the Administration is doing nothing other than getting an airplane frame.
That $400 million dollar "gift" from Qatar is going to have to be stripped all the way down to the freaking rivets to examine for surveillance devices, then rebuilt from the studs outfitting it with all kinds of intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) equipment (which is what L3-Harris does).
This is no bargain.
It's not even a corrupt bargain.
It's just corrupt.
Assumptions, party of one.
FACTS that people with low IQ's sadly can't comprehend.
You're just not very bright.
movielover said:DiabloWags said:movielover said:DiabloWags said:sycasey said:
Also, game this out: if they are supposed to use this as "Air Force One," I don't think you can just take a plane from anywhere and immediately make it AF1. It would have to be outfitted with all the required security and functions needed for the Presidential plane. How long will that take? Probably years. So how much use will it even get before Trump's term is over and it would have to be mothballed at the library?
Given all of that, it doesn't pass the smell test that Trump only wants to accept the plane so it can sit in a library. It's a personal gift and they are trying to use a smokescreen to pretend that it isn't.
What many are missing here is that the Administration is doing nothing other than getting an airplane frame.
That $400 million dollar "gift" from Qatar is going to have to be stripped all the way down to the freaking rivets to examine for surveillance devices, then rebuilt from the studs outfitting it with all kinds of intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) equipment (which is what L3-Harris does).
This is no bargain.
It's not even a corrupt bargain.
It's just corrupt.
Assumptions, party of one.
FACTS that people with low IQ's sadly can't comprehend.
You're just not very bright.
Says the alleged man who brags about his Yugo, and purposefully enticing a pedestrian into an encounter w his moving vehicle. Lotta anger there.
Is this really necessary? I try to maintain a level of civility with everyone here. It would be nice if that were a 2 way street.concordtom said:Yeah… will we have to wait until then to hear you say you were a stupid dumb ass to have believed his lies, AGAIN?tequila4kapp said:
Is this the thread where we are discussing the plane from Qatar? I previously was dismissive of the criticism, claiming the plane was going to the DOD/USAF. I am here to correct the record and change my tune. More recent reports indicate the plane with then be transferred to Trump's Presidential Library in 2029. If this plane is in any way used by Trump after 2029...this is total BS. Personal gifts are not allowed.
I'll be watching this space.
TAIWAN: President Trump warned Europe that their dependence on Russia for energy would put their security at risk - they ignored him. Now Taiwan just decommissioned its last nuclear power plant. It will rely on China's permission to import almost 100% of its energy from now on.… pic.twitter.com/yGbCkpjmEJ
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Tom, you are not in your best form this morning.concordtom said:
You realize, don't you, that was Mr Tequila is getting at is a hunch that Biden had cancer as a candidate, before the election, yet it was withheld from the public in an attempt to rig the election.
Another reason for him to justify his Trumpism lean.
He sooo wants to be one of their gang.
Just give him plausible acceptability.
DiabloWags said:movielover said:DiabloWags said:sycasey said:
Also, game this out: if they are supposed to use this as "Air Force One," I don't think you can just take a plane from anywhere and immediately make it AF1. It would have to be outfitted with all the required security and functions needed for the Presidential plane. How long will that take? Probably years. So how much use will it even get before Trump's term is over and it would have to be mothballed at the library?
Given all of that, it doesn't pass the smell test that Trump only wants to accept the plane so it can sit in a library. It's a personal gift and they are trying to use a smokescreen to pretend that it isn't.
What many are missing here is that the Administration is doing nothing other than getting an airplane frame.
That $400 million dollar "gift" from Qatar is going to have to be stripped all the way down to the freaking rivets to examine for surveillance devices, then rebuilt from the studs outfitting it with all kinds of intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) equipment (which is what L3-Harris does).
This is no bargain.
It's not even a corrupt bargain.
It's just corrupt.
Assumptions, party of one.
FACTS that people with low IQ's sadly can't comprehend.
You're just not very bright.
So we can dislike people and disagree with their policies or even believe that people have personality traits we despise. All of that is fundamentally different from losing one's cognitive capabilities. We are talking about the President of the US, not old uncle Albert who lives in a nursing home. It is awesome that people can be flippant about this but it is a very serious matter that this was hidden from us and some other group of people were likely running the country. The movie Dave was entertaining and all but that story line always be constrained to the silver screen.bearister said:
"Biden's mental decline was hidden from the public for months."
Trump's handlers are very envious of that.
Yes. It's very hard to push out a sitting incumbent if he doesn't want to bow out, but his team should have been informing him of the truth of his situation and not actively hiding it, as seems to be the case. No wonder he was delusional about what the polls said; they weren't showing him the bad ones (which was most of them).Anarchistbear said:
Biden and his wife's hubris is somewhat understandable- he's out of it and she is supportive. . What is not acceptable is a conspiracy by staff and party to mislead the public with lies about the mental and physical competence of a walking corpse and then replace him in similar conspiratorial fashion with a stone cold loser who had no chance of winning
