ducky23 said:
I have volunteered time to help people apply for DACA. And while a small sample size, the kids I've helped have been some of the most intelligent, hardest working people I've ever met.
People are absolutely entitled to their opinions. But if you really care to know what these DACA recipients are actually like, I'd invite you to meet some. Hopefully, USCIS will once again start accepting initial DACA applications. And if that day ever comes, I personally invite you to come with me to help people apply for DACA. And after that, if you still believe these kids are underserving, so be it.
Cute story. But anecdotal and wholly irrelevant.
I went to K-12 with mostly minorities. Some were black, and none of them were criminals. Good thing I don't assume blacks are less violent than whites based on my personal experiences. Nobody who rejects DACA is inherently making a claim about any one or subgroup of DACA individuals. It's not to demonize all the members that fall into that category.
These are obvious distinctions that don't need to be voiced unless there is a pretext of group identity politics being played. It's not about "deserve". I mean, don't ALL poor children deserve the kind of opportunity America potentially provides. That's literally neither here nor there.
The results of Hispanic performance in American society is not just underwhelming, it's
alarming -- from culture to IQ to values: illiteracy rates, illigitimacy rates, HS graduation rates, crime rates -- all while out pacing the American birth rate 2x. . The goal of any civil society isn't to import the culture that produces these results, it's to deport them. At minimum it's to prevent it's proportion from increasing.
Again, there will invariably be many, many DACA recipients who will go on to become great economic and socio-cultural contributors.
What I'm rejecting is obvious: the conflict between a mealy-mouth de facto open border philosophy of acquiescing the importation of (illicit) 3rd world poverty while also proclaiming to be champions of the working under-class that consists largely of (legal) minorities. An
example of how this plays out:
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This dynamic played out recently at a large bakery in Chicago that supplies buns to McDonald's. Some 800 immigrant laborers, most of them from Mexico, lost their jobs last year after an audit by Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The Cloverhill Bakery, owned by Aryzta, a big Swiss food conglomerate, had to hire new workers, 80% to 90% of whom are African American. According to the Chicago Sun Times, the new workers are paid $14 per hour, or $4 per hour more than the (illegal) immigrant workers.
DACA also gives hundreds and thousands of workers with the necessary documentation to compete with lower income positions held in many fields largely by legal African American and Hispanic American citizens.
There are certainly winners of illegal immigration -- cheap labor, lower wages for business owners, transferring and fueling profits and cheaper goods.
One one hand we clamor for higher minimum wages and admonish greedy corp for employing such cheap labor, then we actively promote or acquiesce the importation of millions of low wage laborers to compete with the already outstretched underclass.
There's no honest way to support both.