Econ141 said:
6956bear said:
WalterSobchak said:
I know we disagree on this but IMO Hunter has NFL speed. The thing for him is speed won't be the reason he makes or sticks on a roster. He has NFL hands, catch radius, and body control. Footwork is the big question mark. He's gonna have to prove himself on route running and technique and make his living primarily 5 to 20 yds from the LOS. If he thinks he's going to be a consistent NFL deep threat he's crazy. That's never gonna happen for him and there's no way to train his way into it or find a perfect school for 1 year that's gonna magically turn him into it.
Agree. If he wants to make the league he will need to learn to run better routes and be ok with that role. And he will need to block his ass off. Much like 49er WR Juaun Jennings.
As a rabid fan but not a student of football, how do you guys determine that a WR doesn't have good footwork from simply watching games in person or on TV? Assuming you don't know the routes they are trying to run vs what they run how do you observe that? I would like to keep my eye out for that in the future.
I can only speak for myself, but I'm not saying he doesn't have good footwork. All I'm saying is I'm not sure he has NFL footwork. I don't know. I can see he has or lacks the other attributes I mention. But IMO footwork, which to me includes "foot speed" plus many other things not necessarily strictly limited to the feet, is the #1 most important thing for the average NFL receiver to have to be successful in a decent career. To be a legitimate star takes other things, often including running speed. Guys like Tyreek Hill and Justin Jefferson have both. They can set up and "beat" guys at the LOS and in and out of breaks, and then run by and away from them too. A guy like Keenan can't really use speed to run by guys but he does so many things on the route that he's consistently open. IMO that's the absolute pinnacle comp for Hunter, but there are many guys not nearly as good as Keenan having solid careers making great money.
There's a great clip from the most recent hard knocks when Tyreek is working back from an ankle injury. He's mic'ed up on the practice field and is talking about how he can run again but still can't get in and out of his breaks like he's used to. Can't remember which episode.
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