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decommit news: not surprisingly (he never mentioned berkeley academics when he gave a verbal commitment to cal, just the opportunity to play college football in america which is a major recruiting red flag) luca georg wolf from austria has flipped to tennessee (mentioning multiple times how loud the stadiums are in the sec which is NOT gonna help u build generational wealth when ur 30 years old)

the bears other 2026 tight end commit 3.9 gpa +1 athletic taimane purcell from the hawaiian islands is a much better fit in berkeley & gotta opportunity for early rotation playing time behind standout te1 mason mini with seniors jeffrey johnson & landon morris being outta eligibility, the inability of ben marshall to stay healthy & question marks re: whether or not the 2025 tight end signee jacob houseworth is actually a good fit in berkeley

the above doechi gpa list has been edited for this recruiting update
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Sorry Shocks, but Rolo/harsin is ok to be HC to finish the season, but after...clean house.
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Like a cheap lawn chair shocky.
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bluehenbear said:

Sorry Shocks, but Rolo/harsin is ok to be HC to finish the season, but after...clean house.

I see no way that Harsin returns. Rolovich is different. But if whoever the next HC wants is currently on staff then they will stay. It needs to be the next HC's choice. Not a condition of employment.
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bluehen, hear wut ur saying, but where's the money gonna come from for $20,000,000-$25,000,000 to "clean house" plus fund the $15,500,000 nil funding requirement for p4 programs in a time of significantly reduced acc revenues, declining attendance at memorial stadium due to marketing errors in not targeting a younger fanbase and abysmal revenues for the men's & women's basketball programs??

the coaching lists put out there are not financially realistic other than a non transformational choice like the uc davis coach tim plough who is not gonna crush it on the recruiting trail

"cleaning house" would also realistically mean a staff could not be in place with uc system hiring bureaucracy timelines for the transfer portal window in early january for only 10 days (keep in mind the ncca has cancelled the spring transfer window) which is critical for the bears assembling a winning program in 2026

the only program the bears have played in our 2 seasons in the acc with arguably more talent than cal wuz them miami hurricanes, the .500 record during this time is a function of coaching & not having guys ready to compete on gamedays and NOT the overall talent level

tosh lupoi is a recruiting force of nature & we would kill it with poly & black families while rolo is arguably the most beloved person in the history of hawaii football

cal is outta ******* time for "cleaning house" anyways, teams are gonna start giving contractual notice in 2026 for new conferences commencing in 2027

but if by chance rich & ron decide to "clean house" shocky is gonna be done with cal football at that time as the majority of the starters including jks would likely enter the portal and the monster will just adapt with his solo connection to cal athletics being his love for the men's golf team & the current 4 pga superstars!!

and sure the monster would still be a fan of doms too!!

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serious question: who do u think would be a legit head coach candidate (most head coaches got ZERO interest in any school that limits their recruiting to predominantly high gpa true student athletes a fact that is kinda lost on casual cal fans) in this "cleaning house" concept that is not based on financial or player retention realities??
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6956bear said:

bluehenbear said:

Sorry Shocks, but Rolo/harsin is ok to be HC to finish the season, but after...clean house.

I see no way that Harsin returns. Rolovich is different. But if whoever the next HC wants is currently on staff then they will stay. It needs to be the next HC's choice. Not a condition of employment.

Interesting that we're now going to welcome Toler back. Apparently blocking is less important than people thought back in August. Assuming he's not hurt, I would like to get Thomas back, and if Toler can do that, it makes sense to me. As we all saw, Raphael had a run on Saturday that, if Thomas was the ball carrier, goes for a TD. Raphael is a good back, but he just doesn't have the speed we need at that position.
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jeff, if burl (who has a preexisting relationship with fellow berkeley grad tosh) can bring the jet back to the bay to finish his berkeley degree the bears rushing attack would improve by EPIC homerun proportions!!

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jeff, if burl (who has a preexisting relationship with fellow berkeley grad tosh) can bring the jet back to the bay to finish his berkeley degree the bears rushing attack would improve by EPIC homerun proportions!!



If Tosh is hired and wants Burl back then so be it. But I would not do it just to get Jet back. if Jet wants back that is fine. But if Tosh is counting on Burl to bring some players with him to Cal how about bringing Kwazi Gilmer as well.
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6956, think ur kinda missing the cal recruiting advantage here, the jet's moms javona is not enjoying her gameday travel from oakland to los angeles & she tole me her son loves berkeley academics in his quest to become a physical therapist giving back to his community

a critical factor in the thomas family portal transfer decision wuz the repeated "dangerous play calling" into the line of scrimmage for the undersized jaivian & the failure to get him the ball in open space on the edges which is not only on the former offensive coordinator but also on the head coach for failing to correct the play calling during the 2024 season

kwazi gilmer got no known connection to the bears, recruiting is based upon relationships
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6956, think ur kinda missing the cal recruiting advantage here, the jet's moms javona is not enjoying her gameday travel from oakland to los angeles & she tole me her son loves berkeley academics in his quest to become a physical therapist giving back to his community

a critical factor in the thomas family portal transfer decision wuz the repeated "dangerous play calling" into the line of scrimmage for the undersized jaivian & the failure to get him the ball in open space on the edges which is not only on the former offensive coordinator but also on the head coach for failing to correct the play calling during the 2024 season

kwazi gilmer got no known connection to the bears, recruiting is based upon relationships

I am fine with Jet returning to Cal as long as the next HC is fine with it. I do not care what his mom thinks about her commutes to LA to watch her son play. This is a dog eat dog business and I want Cal to win. If Tosh or any new HC thinks Jet will contribute to winning then bring him back. UCLA offers a fine degree as well. It is part of the UC system after all. Of course not quite what a Cal degree is.

Gilmer (HS class of 2024) was recruited by Cal and took a visit here in June of 2023. He was recruited by Burl Toler who many are hoping will return to Cal when the next HC is announced. I think Burl is the current WR coach at UCLA and would by definition have a relationship with Gilmer. Kwazi Gilmer would immediately be Cal's best WR. Also as a potential transfer many players have no or little relationship to Cal prior to deciding to transfer. NIL and the promise of PT are often deciding factors. I have no idea if Gilmer is even considering leaving UCLA just spitballing the thought of him playing here as Cal has perhaps the worst WR room I have seen in years.

Among the players at Cal now that had little or no prior relationship include Kendrick Raphael, Leon Bell, TJ Bush, Zeke Masses, Dru Polidore, Paco Austin, Mark Hamper and of course Jacob DeJesus. All started this past week vs Virginia and play extensively. There are other transfers sprinkled around the roster that have very little or no prior Cal relationships.

Cal football is not a social experiment. The idea is to win games along with providing young men a great eduction. Jet left for UCLA. He had every chance to stay and battle for time. He left. Nobody pushed him out the door. Not against his return in any way, but if he cannot help Cal win, then oh well. Decisions have consequences.



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cam, u bring up an interesting question, tosh lupoi is intelligent, possesses an unimpeachable work ethic & the street smarts of a rio de janerio pocket picker

the foundation of lupoi's college football career (he washed outta the nfl as a technically deficient defensive line coach, recruiting is not a valued skillset in the pro game) is based upon his predatory ability to relate to 5 star low gpa black & poly high schoolers from lower socioeconomic backgrounds with a single parent moms who is working multiple jobs which allows tosh to serve as a "father/big brother" figure while xboxing with these naive young men promising them nfl stardom/paychecks, working for nike, owning a restaurant, etc. without any meaningful academic ambition

and then these young men turn 30 with all of these dreams gone up in smoke & they are ****** in a highly competitive global economy that favors the well educated like berkeley, stanford & ivy league grads

at a university with high academic ethics & standards, lupoi's bull**** would not fly but at oregon (which is basically a safety school for white dumb azz cali kids that got rejected from every uc school) they value winning at all costs & their fanbase is not interested in the afterlives of their disposable gladiators

bottom line, tosh lupoi is a piece of **** kinda like criminal dana altman & their only loyalties are to their wallets



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SHOCKY'S MONSTER FLIPAROO: the upcoming gameplan for cal football & the athletic department

after extensive conversations with multiple sources (and receiving greater context re: a number of key issues) shocky is now of the opinion that berkeley grad TOSH LUPOI is the right person to become the next HEAD FOOTBALL COACH at the university of california, berkeley!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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with the HIGH ENERGY (which is critical for warrior mental preparedness on gamedays, this is the not the nfl where players motivate themselves) tosh (who has always loved cal football along with his dad) leading the way we're gonna also better position the 9th island school as the premiere academic destination for polys (including hopa/hopas like tosh & shocky) in the college recruiting football landscape while we lean into our ohana spirit roots!!


as for the staff on & off the field the majority of the hard working professionals will be retained particularly with the significant talent in recruiting (the 2026 class got high gpa upside at multiple positions), the s&c program & creative services (ok, talking about 3 year berkeley grad vals who at some point will be charged with handling the current abysmal/ineffectual social media outreach for the entire university/uc system) with the biggest change being NICK ROLOVICH (who is not qualified to be a science medicine professor but definitely knows to order the tofu beef with green onions at china palace after a round at indian valley) as the next OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR

nick got deep bay area roots (setting national passing records at san francisco city college before becoming the most beloved person in the history of hawaii football) & isn't ever going to leave home again (learning from the cold as **** pullman ****show) without a parachute...rolovich values ACADEMICS as evidenced by his son daniel's 3.9 gpa (and turning down an offer from harvard to compete for the qb1 job at san jose state in 2026)

going all in with polys will ensure that future all americans CADE ULUAVE (who has 1 more year before earning a coveted berkeley degree that will set him up for life) & JARON KEAWE SAGAPOLTELE (who loves rolo, his teammates, the bay area's proximity to home & berkeley's elite academics!!) are a very high probability to return to berkeley in 2026 for a team that got talent that is not currently fully surfacing

as for rolo's offensive staff, fully expect FAMIKA ANAE to return as cal's monster offensive line coach with a majority of the playing rotation returning for a 2nd year of development...tosh coupled with famika and with john jr already in town for his parents on gamedays will greater position the program for when TOMMY TOFI wants to be a day 1 starter at tackle for the bears

ideally with the change in the head coach, tosh & general manager berkeley grad ron rivera will then be in a position to recruit berkeley grad BURL TOLER (who does not have any assurances right now for a job in 2026 from ucla) back to the bay area as the running backs coach ideally bringing along shocky's favorite player JAIVIAN "THE JET" THOMAS (whose moms javona is not enjoying the gameday travel from oakland to los angeles) back to the bay with the return of PITCHOUTS as a trademark explosive play call for a program with rbs with NFL SPEED

and yeah haas biz ad grad tight ends coach MIKE SAFFELL would continue to be mentored as the future head coach in waiting as a dilly 2.0 +1 extrovert that connects with everybody

defensively the bears got a solid staff particularly with TERRENCE BROWN & VIC SO'OTO , it's possible there might be a tweak or two such as the former nfl d-line coach evaluating that current position coach (important recurring note: d-line is by far the hardest position to recruit to berkeley because of the limited # of academically qualified prospects) but the real transformation will occur as the bears finally hiring a long overdue ******* SPECIAL TEAMS COACH!!

while this is happening in memorial stadium fully expect fellow haas biz ad grad chancellor lyons to terminate the decade+ long football obstructionists current co athletic director ****tards jay larson & jennifer simon-o'neil (neither is a berkeley grad or truly bleeds blue & gold) & replace these piece of **** worthless bureaucrats with berkeley grad ANDREW MCGRAW

bottom line, this succession plan will allow the staff to coach up a hopefully victorious 2025 bowl game (shocky wuz done with wilcox after he unilaterally treated the la bowl at so fi stadium like an exhibition scrimmage & threw away an opportunity for a winning season which is important to the fanbase) & also to immediately start planning for the early january transfer portal 10 day window which will be critical in assessing multiple impact starters at positions of need for a successful 2026 acc season (with positive news re: the outta conference schedule to be announced soon) with surging gameday attendance as the marketing efforts (with non berkeley grad markeisha everrett now in the rearview mirror thx to the monster lobbying efforts against her) finally getting synced up to dominate the untapped bay area football tix marketspace (40,000 should be the floor with bigger games targeting 50,000+ and younger attendees)!!

TIMING: shocky thinks the dominoes will start falling on the monday after the louisville game which will also potentially include an announcement that ALL berkeley students will be inclusively invited FREE to the smu final home game in the 2025 season at memorial stadium!!


Translation: Cal will reverse 60 years of losing by keeping most of the staff and replacing some people with entirely former Cal people. that's how you make big changes. Cue Tony Stark clip here.
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translation: bearlycareanymore (screen name kinda says it all) is another angry old white guy (that unfortunately dominates the conversations on this increasingly annoying/irrelevant unreadable board for griping tv fan sr citizens who are decades long frustrated with both the bears & their lives as the bearisider.com has failed to gain any meaningful traction with a younger fanbase outside of this thread) that has never met any of the amazing professionals on the current staff or traveled to all the games in person to know that the bears the last 2 seasons are basically the same talent as asu in 2024 & virginia in 2025 and just need a much more dynamic leader/recruiter to get to the next level

the goal is not to make "big changes" with imaginary funding, the goal is to win football games on a football field with a football & u really don't have a clue re: how the program got a potential (if lupoi is on board??) opportunity with berkeley grad tosh to making that happen...if ****tard ryan longwell with the head coach's tacit approval don't renege on a promised scholly & run off my guy mateen bhaghani the bears win 9 games last season...if the unlikeable rb coach & the head coach hadn't failed to build meaningful relationships with the jet & javona this year's offense would've gotten a homerun ground game threat every time he touched the ball which would've been the difference in a couple of the bears recent close losses to virginia tech & virginia...but go ahead & throw ur pity party, that's ur choice (and not picking on u, ur actually one of the more thoughtful posters on this board)

and that's ok, the monster thread is a judgment free zone for dumb azzs (but mostly tight azzs that r palmable or something)

fyi, shocky got no idea who the **** is tony stark (is he the lead singer for interpol or a new shaper for coore & crenshaw??) or honestly does he even care
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Shocky1 said:

translation: bearlycareanymore (screen name kinda says it all) is another angry old white guy (that unfortunately dominates the conversations on this increasingly annoying/irrelevant board for griping tv fan sr citizens as the bearisider.com has failed to gain any meaningful traction with a younger fanbase outside of this thread) that has never met any of the amazing professionals on the current staff or traveled to all the games in person to know that the bears the last 2 seasons are basically the same talent as asu in 2024 & virginia in 2025 and just need a much more dynamic leader/recruiter to get to the next level

the goal is not to make "big changes" with imaginary funding, the goal is to win football games on a football field with a football & u really don't have a clue re: how the program got an opportunity with berkeley grad tosh to making that happen...if ****tard ryan longwell with the head coach's tacit approval don't renege on a promised scholly & run off my guy mateen bhaghani the bears win 9 games last season...if the unlikeable rb coach & the head coach hadn't failed to build meaningful relationships with the jet & javona this year's offense would've gotten a homerun groundgame threat every time he touched the ball which would've been the difference in a couple of the bears recent close losses to virginia tech & virginia...but go ahead & throw ur pity party, that's ur choice (and not picking on u, ur actually one of the more thoughtful posters on this board)

and that's ok, the monster thread is a judgment free zone for dumb azzs (but mostly tight azzs that r palmable or something)

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fyi, shocky got no idea who the **** is tony stark (is he the lead singer for interpol??) or honestly does he even care

Translation, I like to point fingers at everyone except my friends and when people disagree scream a bunch of insults at them.

Yes, after 60 years of losing Cal just needs a tiny tweak.

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the "60 years of losing" sounds more like a u issue than a cal football issue

shocky has had many moments of great joy the last 2 seasons on his acc golf roadtrips & FUN victories at memorial stadium!!

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Shocky1 said:

the "60 years of losing" sounds more like a u issue than a cal football issue

shocky has had many moments of great joy the last 2 seasons on his acc golf roadtrips & FUN victories at memorial stadium!!



No, I'm pretty sure the losing was a Cal football issue.
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Shocky, I like Rolo and I really hope he returns to Cal next year in some capacity.

I know you are advocating for Lupoi as the next HC, but it that doesn't happen, your next choice was Rolo.

Honest question though: why do you think Cal would be so much better off next year with Rolo as head coach and Wilcox and Harsin gone? Is it recruiting? In-game head coaching decisions?

Rolo as HC with Anae, Saffell and a bunch of the defensive coaches returning seems very similar to this year's set-up. Is having a more outwardly emotional leader (in Rolo) as the HC vs. Wilcox's demeanor a big factor, in your opinion?

We have already been recruiting successfully in the poly community, so I don't don't see that as a major source of improvement. Rolo is good with JKS, but if anything, Rolo would have less time to mentor JKS during games than he does now .

Yes, Wilcox has made some in-game tactical errors this year, but is that really why we're losing games? And is Rolo going to eliminate those errors -- is he known as a great in-game coach?

Again, I like Rolo and Anae, Soto, Brown, Saffell, etc. But just cutting Wilcox (and paying his buyout) and then saddling up again with most of the existing leadership does not seem transformational. Are we so close that we don't need transformational and we just need the guy at the top gone?
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Shocky1 said:

the "60 years of losing" sounds more like a u issue than a cal football issue

shocky has had many moments of great joy the last 2 seasons on his acc golf roadtrips & FUN victories at memorial stadium!!



In the 66 seasons since Cal last went to the Rose Bowl, Cal has had winning records in conference 13 times. 5 of those under one coach. 2 conference titles, both ties where we lost the tie break.

Cal is not close to winning. It is not a tweak away. The only two times we changed the direction of the program it was by going completely outside. No one who has ever set foot in that coaches room or that administration building should have anything to do with the rebuild. We don't have time for friendship hires.

Hopefully Rivera will tell everyone to butt the hell out and let him go hire the next Tedford as I'm sure that he can do rather than get tied up in a bunch of politics pushed by people who want their friends hired.
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zony, cal has neither the funding (unless kevin kennedy is willing to share the details of make it rain money) or time (critical transfer portal in early january & schools giving notice of contractual intent to leave conferences in 2026 for a "transformational" (let's just fire everybody & start over) change

so yes shocky believes the introverted head coach is not a dynamic leader on gamedays, shocky wuz watching the early warm ups at snapdragon stadium & knew we wuz in trouble with both the staff & players quietly without any yelling going thru the motions thinking san diego state wuz texas southern...a fiery coach like tosh (or asu's dilly) would NEVER allow that to happen

football is a ******* VIOLENT and EMOTIONAL game, a significantly better gameday leader coupled with one of the best recruiters in the college game that can close on top recruits is the solution for a program that is very close to turning the corner (and also very close to becoming extinct in a relegated conference)

and agreed the best possible plan b with rolo as the head coach is not close to optimal, shocky would actually prefer rivera to take the keys in that scenario but that doesn't seem to align with ron's plans at this time so retaining wilcox at that point might be close to a wash

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serious question: who is this "transformational" head coach that ur seeking that fully gets berkeley (is ideally a grad) that is interested in leading a program that's recruiting is restricted to primarily high gpa true student athletes that got a full staff of assistant coaches & support positions that will follow him to the left coast that is within the university's budget??

obviously this person doesn't ******* exist (except in the minds of cal's sr citizen tv fan base that is angry & frustrated)
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vanderbilt commodores 74
california golden bears 65

CONGRATS to true froshie taylor barmes from grand prairie texas who filled the stat sheet with 17 points on a highly efficient 7 of 13 fields including 3 of 7 from 3 point land, a physical 6 boards & an unselfish 5 assists in the bears open season loss to #19 ranked vanderbilt at adidas arena in paris (callixte alzas dnp)

right now the bears appear to have a strong starting 5, a couple of other players are gonna need to emerge as the first 5 playing 30+ minutes per game is not gonna work in the highly competitive acc



the university of california, berkeley=#1 ranked public university in the world (including the city of lights)
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Shocky1 said:

serious question: who is this "transformational" head coach that ur seeking that fully gets berkeley (is ideally a grad) that is interested in leading a program that's recruiting is restricted to primarily high gpa true student athletes that got a full staff of assistant coaches & support positions that will follow him to the left coast that is within the university's budget??

obviously this person doesn't ******* exist (except in the minds of cal's sr citizen tv fan base that is angry & frustrated)

1. I don't give shyte whether they "fully get" Berkeley. I don't see being a grad as being important at all.
2. I don't particularly care about whatever went down with Tosh years ago, but that isn't universal. That is probably the only choice that would immediately divide the fan base and turn off a whole group of donors and fans even if others would be wildly in favor.
3. The whole "we don't got time" issue is killing us. 2 and 3 years ago we didn't have time to fire Wilcox and we wasted all of that time, trying to save time. We need to make right decisions. And outsider Tedford turned the program around week 1
4. We pay a guy $800K because he is an expert in football coaching. It is not my job, nor yours, nor alums to identify coaching candidates. I hope he listens to none of us. Rivera is an expert. I hope that he does a thorough search, develops an awesome list of candidates and he picks someone I don't even know. And I really hope he doesn't listen to our alums because they have always sucked at picking coaching candidates.
5. Back in the day, our AD didn't have time or money so he went and got one of them there grads who fully gets Berkeley. Probably the grad that most got Berkeley. And he got Berkeley so much that we still loved him after a tremendously dismal coaching tenure. After the botched hiring of Joe Kapp, our AD learned his lesson and did a thorough job search that saw interviews with Steve Spurrier and Bobby Ross before picking Bruce Snyder. When Mooch left, the AD had no time so he said let's not do a search. Let's hire the DC, cuz Bill Walsh says he's good. That was dismal. Then we did a proper coaching search that yielded a great list of candidates and Tedford came out on top. In both cases Cal was at a nadir and no one thought we could attract a single good candidate and we attracted multiple great candidates. Of course maybe it is because they are probably the only two times in my life Cal did an actual fully developed coach search.

What I want is for Rivera to use all the guys he has at his disposal to identify a list of guys who look great on paper and then bring in the top ones so he can decide who is a good fit and who has the makeup of a great head coach. And when he picks him, that guy should pick his staff.

I don't have time for "We don't have time, so let's just pick some guy we know because we don't have any imagination" hires. Let the $800K man do a search and find his guy. Because the one thing I know we don't have time for is to screw up this hire.
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"... we wasted all that time, trying to save time."

Now that's a classic line!

Yes, the new guy gets to pick his staff. That's the way it works.
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6956bear said:

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6956, think ur kinda missing the cal recruiting advantage here, the jet's moms javona is not enjoying her gameday travel from oakland to los angeles & she tole me her son loves berkeley academics in his quest to become a physical therapist giving back to his community

a critical factor in the thomas family portal transfer decision wuz the repeated "dangerous play calling" into the line of scrimmage for the undersized jaivian & the failure to get him the ball in open space on the edges which is not only on the former offensive coordinator but also on the head coach for failing to correct the play calling during the 2024 season

kwazi gilmer got no known connection to the bears, recruiting is based upon relationships

I am fine with Jet returning to Cal as long as the next HC is fine with it. I do not care what his mom thinks about her commutes to LA to watch her son play. This is a dog eat dog business and I want Cal to win. If Tosh or any new HC thinks Jet will contribute to winning then bring him back. UCLA offers a fine degree as well. It is part of the UC system after all. Of course not quite what a Cal degree is.

Gilmer (HS class of 2024) was recruited by Cal and took a visit here in June of 2023. He was recruited by Burl Toler who many are hoping will return to Cal when the next HC is announced. I think Burl is the current WR coach at UCLA and would by definition have a relationship with Gilmer. Kwazi Gilmer would immediately be Cal's best WR. Also as a potential transfer many players have no or little relationship to Cal prior to deciding to transfer. NIL and the promise of PT are often deciding factors. I have no idea if Gilmer is even considering leaving UCLA just spitballing the thought of him playing here as Cal has perhaps the worst WR room I have seen in years.

Among the players at Cal now that had little or no prior relationship include Kendrick Raphael, Leon Bell, TJ Bush, Zeke Masses, Dru Polidore, Paco Austin, Mark Hamper and of course Jacob DeJesus. All started this past week vs Virginia and play extensively. There are other transfers sprinkled around the roster that have very little or no prior Cal relationships.

Cal football is not a social experiment. The idea is to win games along with providing young men a great eduction. Jet left for UCLA. He had every chance to stay and battle for time. He left. Nobody pushed him out the door. Not against his return in any way, but if he cannot help Cal win, then oh well. Decisions have consequences.





Burl was a nice guy, loyal bear alum, good recruiter and bad wr coach. Cal needs to do better.

And while Jet is a nice rb, Cal should be aiming higher than Jet in the rb portal. Bringing back Toler to entice Jet or Gilmer (or whoever) is a terrible decision. Hire the best coach with recruiting abilities and let them find the right players.
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AZ Bear said:

Shocky, I like Rolo and I really hope he returns to Cal next year in some capacity.

I know you are advocating for Lupoi as the next HC, but it that doesn't happen, your next choice was Rolo.

Honest question though: why do you think Cal would be so much better off next year with Rolo as head coach and Wilcox and Harsin gone? Is it recruiting? In-game head coaching decisions?

Rolo as HC with Anae, Saffell and a bunch of the defensive coaches returning seems very similar to this year's set-up. Is having a more outwardly emotional leader (in Rolo) as the HC vs. Wilcox's demeanor a big factor, in your opinion?

We have already been recruiting successfully in the poly community, so I don't don't see that as a major source of improvement. Rolo is good with JKS, but if anything, Rolo would have less time to mentor JKS during games than he does now .

Yes, Wilcox has made some in-game tactical errors this year, but is that really why we're losing games? And is Rolo going to eliminate those errors -- is he known as a great in-game coach?

Again, I like Rolo and Anae, Soto, Brown, Saffell, etc. But just cutting Wilcox (and paying his buyout) and then saddling up again with most of the existing leadership does not seem transformational. Are we so close that we don't need transformational and we just need the guy at the top gone?


Not Shocky by I'll chime in. I think Rolo would be an upgrade to Wilcox simply because he has 100 times more people skills/charisma, enjoys recruiting, and seems to bond/motivate players. Rolo is on social media and has a pretty good record as a head coach and before that as a coordinator.

I'm not saying Rolo is or should be the first choice or even the second choice. I don't know the other options. But I do believe he'd be an upgrade to Wilcox, which is a pretty low bar to be honest.
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BearGoggles said:

AZ Bear said:

Shocky, I like Rolo and I really hope he returns to Cal next year in some capacity.

I know you are advocating for Lupoi as the next HC, but it that doesn't happen, your next choice was Rolo.

Honest question though: why do you think Cal would be so much better off next year with Rolo as head coach and Wilcox and Harsin gone? Is it recruiting? In-game head coaching decisions?

Rolo as HC with Anae, Saffell and a bunch of the defensive coaches returning seems very similar to this year's set-up. Is having a more outwardly emotional leader (in Rolo) as the HC vs. Wilcox's demeanor a big factor, in your opinion?

We have already been recruiting successfully in the poly community, so I don't don't see that as a major source of improvement. Rolo is good with JKS, but if anything, Rolo would have less time to mentor JKS during games than he does now .

Yes, Wilcox has made some in-game tactical errors this year, but is that really why we're losing games? And is Rolo going to eliminate those errors -- is he known as a great in-game coach?

Again, I like Rolo and Anae, Soto, Brown, Saffell, etc. But just cutting Wilcox (and paying his buyout) and then saddling up again with most of the existing leadership does not seem transformational. Are we so close that we don't need transformational and we just need the guy at the top gone?


Not Shocky by I'll chime in. I think Rolo would be an upgrade to Wilcox simply because he has 100 times more people skills/charisma, enjoys recruiting, and seems to bond/motivate players. Rolo is on social media and has a pretty good record as a head coach and before that as a coordinator.

I'm not saying Rolo is or should be the first choice or even the second choice. I don't know the other options. But I do believe he'd be an upgrade to Wilcox, which is a pretty low bar to be honest.

Rolo's record as a recruiter (Class Rank)
2016 Hawaii #108
2017 Hawaii #86
2018 Hawaii #95
2019 Hawaii #114
2020 WSU #55
2021 WSU #61

As a head coach, Rolo has never landed a single 4 or 5 star recruit.

His team records are poor except for 2019 when his Hawaii team went 10-5, boosted by playing 15 games, but lost to all the good teams they played, except maybe 7-6 BYU in the Hawaii Bowl and finished ranked #81 in Sagarin. That was the peak. It did get him the WSU job when Leach left for Mississippi State on January 9, 2020 forcing WSU to hire late in the cycle and try to find a coach that might succeed with his Air Raid roster. He went 5-6 at WSU before getting fired (a win over FCS Portland State, a wins over 2-5 OSU, and 7-6 OSU, a win over 5-7 Wilcox and a win over 3-9 Stanford. I won't go into the issues surrounding his mid season firing, but anyone who thinks Cal and Berkeley would be better suited for him than WSU was is delusional.

Hawaii is my second favorite team. I had family friends on June Jones' staff when Rolo was QB. We would drive Jones to the games and the after party after his DUI. I like Rolo, he is far more personable than Wilcox. I do think he would be an upgrade over Wilcox, but not enough to move the needle, we need a better recruiter for Cal and we do not need his baggage.
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california golden bears 87
cal state bakersfield jackrabbits

CONGRATS to coach madsen on his completely turned over roster for the 3 straight year (is anybody graduating in hoops these days??) winning the season opener in a nearly empty haas pavilion (thx to co athletic director ****tard jay larson's FAILED marketing decision to not offer FREE tixs to all berkeley students) which used to by my palace back in the day when the monster wuz building an aspiring national championship program



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goggles, luv u man but curious if u can give me a name or two for the rb1 prospect that the bears should target this offseason in "aiming higher" than the jet who got a 3.4 gpa who runs 21.1 miles per ******* hour & whose moms loves sitting in the north end zone with her family/friends on gamedays??

of course u can't actually name anybody, that rb1 prospect does not exist in the real world

not understanding why doechi keeps track of the bears gpas is just another sign of an largely ignorant fanbase at the #1 ranked public university in the world which is overall clueless as **** re: the realities of recruiting in berkeley

probably one of the most funny comments evah made to me by a cal fan wuz that they follow cal football recruiting but don't care about gpas

got it


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BearGoggles said:

6956bear said:

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6956, think ur kinda missing the cal recruiting advantage here, the jet's moms javona is not enjoying her gameday travel from oakland to los angeles & she tole me her son loves berkeley academics in his quest to become a physical therapist giving back to his community

a critical factor in the thomas family portal transfer decision wuz the repeated "dangerous play calling" into the line of scrimmage for the undersized jaivian & the failure to get him the ball in open space on the edges which is not only on the former offensive coordinator but also on the head coach for failing to correct the play calling during the 2024 season

kwazi gilmer got no known connection to the bears, recruiting is based upon relationships

I am fine with Jet returning to Cal as long as the next HC is fine with it. I do not care what his mom thinks about her commutes to LA to watch her son play. This is a dog eat dog business and I want Cal to win. If Tosh or any new HC thinks Jet will contribute to winning then bring him back. UCLA offers a fine degree as well. It is part of the UC system after all. Of course not quite what a Cal degree is.

Gilmer (HS class of 2024) was recruited by Cal and took a visit here in June of 2023. He was recruited by Burl Toler who many are hoping will return to Cal when the next HC is announced. I think Burl is the current WR coach at UCLA and would by definition have a relationship with Gilmer. Kwazi Gilmer would immediately be Cal's best WR. Also as a potential transfer many players have no or little relationship to Cal prior to deciding to transfer. NIL and the promise of PT are often deciding factors. I have no idea if Gilmer is even considering leaving UCLA just spitballing the thought of him playing here as Cal has perhaps the worst WR room I have seen in years.

Among the players at Cal now that had little or no prior relationship include Kendrick Raphael, Leon Bell, TJ Bush, Zeke Masses, Dru Polidore, Paco Austin, Mark Hamper and of course Jacob DeJesus. All started this past week vs Virginia and play extensively. There are other transfers sprinkled around the roster that have very little or no prior Cal relationships.

Cal football is not a social experiment. The idea is to win games along with providing young men a great eduction. Jet left for UCLA. He had every chance to stay and battle for time. He left. Nobody pushed him out the door. Not against his return in any way, but if he cannot help Cal win, then oh well. Decisions have consequences.





Burl was a nice guy, loyal bear alum, good recruiter and bad wr coach. Cal needs to do better.

And while Jet is a nice rb, Cal should be aiming higher than Jet in the rb portal. Bringing back Toler to entice Jet or Gilmer (or whoever) is a terrible decision. Hire the best coach with recruiting abilities and let them find the right players.

I agree that Cal needs to let the next HC hire the staff he prefers and recruit the players they think can win at Cal. But my response was more that there are beliefs that Burl may return if Tosh is hired. I do not know if that has any legs or not.





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Shocky1 said:


goggles, luv u man but curious if u can give me a name or two for the rb1 prospect that the bears should target this offseason in "aiming higher" than the jet who got a 3.4 gpa who runs 21.1 miles per ******* hour & whose moms loves sitting in the north end zone with her family/friends on gamedays??

of course u can't actually name anybody, that rb1 prospect does not exist in the real world

not understanding why doechi keeps track of the bears gpas is just another sign of an largely ignorant fanbase at the #1 ranked public university in the world which is overall clueless as **** re: the realities of recruiting in berkeley

probably one of the most funny comments evah made to me by a cal fan wuz that they follow cal football recruiting but don't care about gpas

got it




I follow recruiting closely. I care about the GPAs. But it is the 2nd thing I look at. The first one is football ability. If they can't play but have good GPAs you get what you have now.

I fully understand that Cal is not Oregon, Alabama or Ole Miss. You have to be able to compete in the classroom here. But if you can't play I do not care what your GPA is. You have to find both good football players with strong academics.

That happens at Notre Dame. This season we are seeing an emergence of higher academic schools football fortunes. Vanderbilt and GaTech for 2. Duke and Virginia are others. Cal lost to both. Michigan and Texas are fine schools that find a way to play good football. It can be done.

I love good GPAs, but they have to be able to play. Jet is a good player. He was recruited to Cal. Played here 2 years and then left. Not pushed out. His choice. I am fine with bringing him back if the next coach thinks he will help the team win.

But Jet was here and left. And BFD about where his mom sits. This is a very big business now. And winning is important. You can be better than Cal has been and still recruit from a pool of good students. This staff has been horrible by nearly every measure imaginable. Cal can and should be better. Much better.

If the product on the field is the very best that can be acheived because the school is too difficult then shut it down or accept the relegation that surely will happen if more success is not acheieved.

Cal is a great school. They deserve a much better program than this. I love good GPAs. But there are lots of players with good GPAs that can also play. Find them, recruit them, sell them on Cal. But excuse me for not being sympathetic to a player that was here, left, is getting paid and still attending a very fine academic school.

He made a decision and needs to own it. If Tosh or any other HC believes he can help Cal win then cool. But by all means lets showcase the GPA, his mom and ignore the fact that he was already here, had a clear path to RB1 but still left. Decisions. Consequences. Life happens.
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Shocky1 said:

zony, cal has neither the funding (unless kevin kennedy is willing to share the details of make it rain money) or time (critical transfer portal in early january & schools giving notice of contractual intent to leave conferences in 2026 for a "transformational" (let's just fire everybody & start over) change

so yes shocky believes the introverted head coach is not a dynamic leader on gamedays, shocky wuz watching the early warm ups at snapdragon stadium & knew we wuz in trouble with both the staff & players quietly without any yelling going thru the motions thinking san diego state wuz texas southern...a fiery coach like tosh (or asu's dilly) would NEVER allow that to happen

football is a ******* VIOLENT and EMOTIONAL game, a significantly better gameday leader coupled with one of the best recruiters in the college game that can close on top recruits is the solution for a program that is very close to turning the corner (and also very close to becoming extinct in a relegated conference)

and agreed the best possible plan b with rolo as the head coach is not close to optimal, shocky would actually prefer rivera to take the keys in that scenario but that doesn't seem to align with ron's plans at this time so retaining wilcox at that point might be close to a wash




Shocky, a lot of these issues were covered up by Becton in the early years. Becton was one of the sources of accountability and intensity on gamedays. Since his departure, I feel like that has been missing
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^ 100% lifer, becton's departure to texas wuz a major factor in the decline of physicality of the cal football program which wuz compounded by a woke azz FAILURE to terminate a non accountable s&c coach who wuz never around due to his courageous battle to recover from cancer

current s&c coach jason novak has assembled an outstanding s&c staff that emphasizes MOVEMENT that in 10 months has already changed a significant # of bodies to warriors that can compete on the football field, it's critical moving forward that novak & his team are retained after he made it outta lansing after all that happened



on 10 paws we stood tall (shocky is wanted in 2 states, can't move wrong cuz they prayed on his downfall)!!#
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Shocky1 said:

the following is a reprint from cal's monster class back in the day:

visited this morning the recently opened nicklaus design group ferry point golf course just outside of nyc with panoramic views of the manhattan skyline

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arrive from my upper east side central park hotel by cab at the clubhouse around 7:30 am to stretch & warm up at the practice facility

upon arrival the head golf professional tells me that ferry point's developer donald trump heard that as a golf digest & golf magazine rankings panelist that i had an 8:10 tee time and would i like to play with the donald at 8:20 am instead?

so i say sure, no big deal, let's do this

so we make the introductions on the practice green & the 1st thing i notice is that trump has the weirdest color hair ever (kinda yellow orange) & that he has total man boobs along with an oversized obnoxious red cap

i walk & carry my lightweight leather mackzenie bag while the donald drives a golf cart literally to within 6 inches of every green...just as annoyingly, we then proceed to play thru every group on the golf course in front of us (why does he do this, why not just take the 1st tee time?)...it's funny to watch people's reactions as he dictates the playing thru, some golfers are understandably agitated while others want a selfie with him on their phones, he very clearly enjoys all the drama he's created

so he tells us while we wait for the short par 4 8th green to clear that he thinks ferry point is one of the greatest golf courses in the united states (it isn't, there are at least a dozen courses on long island & the hamptons that are significantly better) & that he's qualified to make that statement because of his extensive travels around the globe playing golf, that nobody knows golf architecture better than him & that includes actual golf architects

so in front of his 2 buddies & his cart caddie i tell the donald that actually i'm one of the 13 guys (and the youngest) to have played the world top 100 courses & stare him down...total silence, one of his buddies who is the chairman of macys starts to laugh & donald play punches my shoulder kinda hard, he's been pwned...whatever

dude is an interesting guy but playing golf with him is not really a celebration of the game but more like riding a roller coaster



you're fired, shocky#

as a financial conservative (that believes in balanced fiscal budgets/discipline & the full funding of the police/military but that will never vote for election deniers) & social liberal (particularly on a woman's right to control all decisions re: her body & environmental issues protecting mother earth) independent that strongly believes that all citizens of the united state of america should pick up litter, shocky can tell u that after spending 5+ hours (golf & lunch) with donald trump that he lacks empathy for others & that he's non intellectually curious in a self agenda driven feral kinda way

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vote for andrew mcgraw for athletic director!!#


message to all berkeley student athletes: as an independent voter that is only aligned with the doggy dog rescue facility fundraising party, make sure u VOTE today!!



belts & underwear r for losers#
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^ ok, some curvy brunette yoga females from academically mediocre schools like the leaning tower of pisa institute for fashion & technology in positano that wanna date & marry high gpa berkeley, stanford & ivy league grads when they enter the real world that unremorsefully favors the well educated actually rock the neon green fashionista golf links look better than shocky!!

**** me

r u paying attention, callixte??

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belts & underwear r for losers#
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Shocky1 said:

serious question: who is this "transformational" head coach that ur seeking that fully gets berkeley (is ideally a grad) that is interested in leading a program that's recruiting is restricted to primarily high gpa true student athletes that got a full staff of assistant coaches & support positions that will follow him to the left coast that is within the university's budget??

obviously this person doesn't ******* exist (except in the minds of cal's sr citizen tv fan base that is angry & frustrated)

Here is a problem with this post, Shocky. You want Tosh who was already here and who already butted heads constantly with the Cal administration and who already brought in guys that weren't close to high gpa true student athletes and who left primarily out of frustration that his recruiting was hamstrung and knew he would have less restrictions at UW. If what you want is a grad that "gets berkeley", he may get it, but his past indicates a complete unwillingness to live with it.
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