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In reply to 6956bear • 10:54a, 11/4/25
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Cal is a great school. They deserve a much better program than this. I love good GPAs. But there are lots of players with good GPAs that can also play. Find them, recruit them, sell them on Cal.



And lure them away from the Notre Dames, Vanderbilts, GaTechs, Michigans, Dukes, Virginias, and Texases.
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In reply to BearGoggles • 11:58a, 11/4/25
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Not Shocky by I'll chime in. I think Rolo would be an upgrade to Wilcox simply because he has 100 times more people skills/charisma, enjoys recruiting, and seems to bond/motivate players. Rolo is on social media and has a pretty good record as a head coach and before that as a coordinator.

It's a fair point and it could be that Rolo would do very well. I'm not the guy making the decisions (thankfully) but I would be intrigued to see how Rolo would do as HC.
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In reply to Shocky1 • 12:01p, 11/4/25
Shocky1 said:

goggles, luv u man but curious if u can give me a name or two for the rb1 prospect that the bears should target this offseason in "aiming higher" than the jet who got a 3.4 gpa who runs 21.1 miles per ******* hour & whose moms loves sitting in the north end zone with her family/friends on gamedays??

of course u can't actually name anybody, that rb1 prospect does not exist in the real world

not understanding why doechi keeps track of the bears gpas is just another sign of an largely ignorant fanbase at the #1 ranked public university in the world which is overall clueless as **** re: the realities of recruiting in berkeley

probably one of the most funny comments evah made to me by a cal fan wuz that they follow cal football recruiting but don't care about gpas

got it



You sound like a bad boyfriend psychologically abusing his girlfriend. "Baby, you are ugly and everyone out their hates you. No one else will ever love you. This is the best you can do."

Of course Goggles can't name a RB prospect we could get. There are people's whose job it is to identify those guys and it is a hard job. I think I want them doing that job. Not you. Not Goggles. If the coaches want Jet and he wants to come back, great. I don't believe for a second that a good coach can't pull better than Jet. He was an okay back. We have pulled better in the last five years. We've certainly pulled better in the last twenty years.

But this is the issue. Goggles isn't invested in particular names. I'm not invested in particular names. We want results and don't care who delivers. I don't care if it's Jet, or Tosh or Andrew McGraw who you push incessantly, if they can come in here and tear it up, awesome. But there is a whole world of people out there to choose from. I don't care if we get the head of Lithuanian basketball to run our athletic department if he gets results.

You are invested in names to the point where when anyone questions you yell about urine soaked couches and tell us Cal can't get better. That is extremely sus. When Cal has put its mind to it, it has gotten better than what you are offering. You think we are about to turn a corner and just need a minor upgrade? We are not. We are not a rah rah speech away from succeeding in football. We need a complete overhaul which I believe Lyons and Rivera are in the midst of doing. What you are offering is more Cal and Cal has badly needed to be less Cal in football for a long time.

Organizations that make primarily friendship and affinity hires fail. That is not how you find the most competent people. Bruce Snyder had nothing to do with Cal and was the running backs coach for the Rams and was cheap. I think Cal can easily make that hire today. Curt Cignetti's original deal was heavily incentive laden, was significantly cheaper than Wilcox, and had a buyout that was less than his full salary. At the time of hire Cignetti was 61 years old and despite tremendous success at lower levels at IUP, Elon, and James Madison, had gone 13 years without an offer from P4. Cal easily could have hired him in 2022. They could easily hire the next Cignetti now. No, I don't know who that is because it isn't my job to know. It is Rivera's job. I have confidence that he can do it.

I know that Lupoi and Rolovich (Jesus H. Christ!) are not the only guys out there.
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In reply to Shocky1 • 12:06p, 11/4/25
Shocky1 said:
serious question: who is this "transformational" head coach that ur seeking that fully gets berkeley (is ideally a grad) that is interested in leading a program that's recruiting is restricted to primarily high gpa true student athletes that got a full staff of assistant coaches & support positions that will follow him to the left coast that is within the university's budget??

obviously this person doesn't ******* exist (except in the minds of cal's sr citizen tv fan base that is angry & frustrated)

I postulated that Rolo for Wilcox with many of the same assistants would not be transformational.

That said, I'm not one of the BI posters that have been calling for a transformational coaching change. Mostly because I don't think there are very many transformational coaches out there, and of those, Cal would not be able to hire most of them. Of the ones Cal could potentially hire, I think there are a small handful of guys hidden in a haystack of potential coaches would wouldn't be transformational - or particularly successful at Cal.

So while there are surely some Cignetti-type candidates out there, I don't know who they are, and I doubt Ron does either, at least not with a lot of confidence.

Tosh could be one of those guys -- I don't know. If it was a done deal that Wilcox was fired, I think Tosh would be worth a try, assuming he was fired up for the task. A few years ago I'd have been a hard No on Tosh, but at this point, we need to strike gold on our next try.

I'd love for him to keep Rolo and Anae....
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In reply to AZ Bear • 12:29p, 11/4/25
AZ Bear said:
BearGoggles said:
Not Shocky by I'll chime in. I think Rolo would be an upgrade to Wilcox simply because he has 100 times more people skills/charisma, enjoys recruiting, and seems to bond/motivate players. Rolo is on social media and has a pretty good record as a head coach and before that as a coordinator.

It's a fair point and it could be that Rolo would do very well. I'm not the guy making the decisions (thankfully) but I would be intrigued to see how Rolo would do as HC.

IMO Rolovich would be fine as an interim guy if we fire Wilcox mid-season, but fully agree with Bearly that the next full-time head coach should be part of a thorough search. Don't just lean on the guys who already have a Cal connection.
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In reply to AZ Bear • 1:51p, 11/4/25
AZ Bear said:
BearGoggles said:
Not Shocky by I'll chime in. I think Rolo would be an upgrade to Wilcox simply because he has 100 times more people skills/charisma, enjoys recruiting, and seems to bond/motivate players. Rolo is on social media and has a pretty good record as a head coach and before that as a coordinator.

It's a fair point and it could be that Rolo would do very well. I'm not the guy making the decisions (thankfully) but I would be intrigued to see how Rolo would do as HC.

Since you are intrigued to see how Rolo would do as HC:

2016 - Hawaii - 7-7, 4-4 in conference
2017 - Hawaii - 3-9, 1-7 in conference
2018 - Hawaii - 8-6, 5-3 in conference
2019 - Hawaii - 10-5, 5-3 in conference
2020 - WSU - 1-3, 1-3 in conference
2021 - WSU - 4-3, 3-2 in conference

Total 33-33, 19-22 in conference.
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In reply to BearlyCareAnymore • 2:25p, 11/4/25
BearlyCareAnymore said:
AZ Bear said:
BearGoggles said:
Not Shocky by I'll chime in. I think Rolo would be an upgrade to Wilcox simply because he has 100 times more people skills/charisma, enjoys recruiting, and seems to bond/motivate players. Rolo is on social media and has a pretty good record as a head coach and before that as a coordinator.

It's a fair point and it could be that Rolo would do very well. I'm not the guy making the decisions (thankfully) but I would be intrigued to see how Rolo would do as HC.

Since you are intrigued to see how Rolo would do as HC:

2016 - Hawaii - 7-7, 4-4 in conference
2017 - Hawaii - 3-9, 1-7 in conference
2018 - Hawaii - 8-6, 5-3 in conference
2019 - Hawaii - 10-5, 5-3 in conference
2020 - WSU - 1-3, 1-3 in conference
2021 - WSU - 4-3, 3-2 in conference

Total 33-33, 19-22 in conference.


NGE

Not Good Enough.
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In reply to Alkiadt • 3:01p, 11/4/25
Alkiadt said:
BearlyCareAnymore said:
AZ Bear said:
BearGoggles said:
Not Shocky by I'll chime in. I think Rolo would be an upgrade to Wilcox simply because he has 100 times more people skills/charisma, enjoys recruiting, and seems to bond/motivate players. Rolo is on social media and has a pretty good record as a head coach and before that as a coordinator.

It's a fair point and it could be that Rolo would do very well. I'm not the guy making the decisions (thankfully) but I would be intrigued to see how Rolo would do as HC.

Since you are intrigued to see how Rolo would do as HC:

2016 - Hawaii - 7-7, 4-4 in conference
2017 - Hawaii - 3-9, 1-7 in conference
2018 - Hawaii - 8-6, 5-3 in conference
2019 - Hawaii - 10-5, 5-3 in conference
2020 - WSU - 1-3, 1-3 in conference
2021 - WSU - 4-3, 3-2 in conference

Total 33-33, 19-22 in conference.


NGE

Not Good Enough.

Agree, but I think his results can be viewed a little more generously. He took over a horrid Hawaii team in 2016 and built it into a solid program, winning Mountain West Coach of the Year in 2019 (and leading the team to a bowl win over BYU).

Hard to make much of 2020 for any coach, and WSU was off to a decent start in 2021 when he was fired for refusing the Covid vax.

I want to go outside the program for a new HC, but if RR was convinced Rolo was the right guy, I don't think his record as a HC is disqualifying.
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5:47p, 11/4/25

major louisville athletics transportation misinformation update: slides & ladders are NOT the solution, shocky never leaves home anymore without a parachute, they are the quickest ******* way from point a to point b!!

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funny **** on cal's monster thread: shocky asks for a name(s) of any head coaching candidate that is a better fit than tosh or a rb1 that is a better fit in berkeley than the jet and literally nobody can name nobody

and that's because there are only IMAGINARY answers to these very simple questions

fun fact: ron rivera has been immersed in the national football league since his berkeley days, he is not a ******* magician folks (which is apparently news to the "let's blow everything up and start over at 0-12" angry & frustrated old timers that don't deal in real world solutions anymore & that just wanna pontificate about irrelevant azz bears fb **** from decades ago or something)


^ shocky moves/identifies at modern yoga with the vibe put out there by the cajon box drummer to the far left that got good hair, he is lost in the music & happy as ****!!

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In reply to calumnus • 11:48p, 11/4/25
calumnus said:
BearGoggles said:
AZ Bear said:
Shocky, I like Rolo and I really hope he returns to Cal next year in some capacity.

I know you are advocating for Lupoi as the next HC, but it that doesn't happen, your next choice was Rolo.

Honest question though: why do you think Cal would be so much better off next year with Rolo as head coach and Wilcox and Harsin gone? Is it recruiting? In-game head coaching decisions?

Rolo as HC with Anae, Saffell and a bunch of the defensive coaches returning seems very similar to this year's set-up. Is having a more outwardly emotional leader (in Rolo) as the HC vs. Wilcox's demeanor a big factor, in your opinion?

We have already been recruiting successfully in the poly community, so I don't don't see that as a major source of improvement. Rolo is good with JKS, but if anything, Rolo would have less time to mentor JKS during games than he does now .

Yes, Wilcox has made some in-game tactical errors this year, but is that really why we're losing games? And is Rolo going to eliminate those errors -- is he known as a great in-game coach?

Again, I like Rolo and Anae, Soto, Brown, Saffell, etc. But just cutting Wilcox (and paying his buyout) and then saddling up again with most of the existing leadership does not seem transformational. Are we so close that we don't need transformational and we just need the guy at the top gone?

Not Shocky by I'll chime in. I think Rolo would be an upgrade to Wilcox simply because he has 100 times more people skills/charisma, enjoys recruiting, and seems to bond/motivate players. Rolo is on social media and has a pretty good record as a head coach and before that as a coordinator.

I'm not saying Rolo is or should be the first choice or even the second choice. I don't know the other options. But I do believe he'd be an upgrade to Wilcox, which is a pretty low bar to be honest.

Rolo's record as a recruiter (Class Rank)
2016 Hawaii #108
2017 Hawaii #86
2018 Hawaii #95
2019 Hawaii #114
2020 WSU #55
2021 WSU #61

As a head coach, Rolo has never landed a single 4 or 5 star recruit.

His team records are poor except for 2019 when his Hawaii team went 10-5, boosted by playing 15 games, but lost to all the good teams they played, except maybe 7-6 BYU in the Hawaii Bowl and finished ranked #81 in Sagarin. That was the peak. It did get him the WSU job when Leach left for Mississippi State on January 9, 2020 forcing WSU to hire late in the cycle and try to find a coach that might succeed with his Air Raid roster. He went 5-6 at WSU before getting fired (a win over FCS Portland State, a wins over 2-5 OSU, and 7-6 OSU, a win over 5-7 Wilcox and a win over 3-9 Stanford. I won't go into the issues surrounding his mid season firing, but anyone who thinks Cal and Berkeley would be better suited for him than WSU was is delusional.

Hawaii is my second favorite team. I had family friends on June Jones' staff when Rolo was QB. We would drive Jones to the games and the after party after his DUI. I like Rolo, he is far more personable than Wilcox. I do think he would be an upgrade over Wilcox, but not enough to move the needle, we need a better recruiter for Cal and we do not need his baggage.

Since you're from Hawaii, can you point me to the time when Hawaii has ever had a highly ranked recruiting class and landed 4 or 5 stars? For Hawaii and WSU, those are decent recruiting ratings. And, perhaps more importantly, I think Rolo did a good job coaching the talent he had.

And just to be clear, the question was why Rolo would be an upgrade to Wilcox. I wasn't suggesting Rolo was the best choice - can't make that claim because I don't know who the realistic choices are. I do find it interesting that you're referring to Rolo's "baggage" (which is not considered baggage by a whole lot of people). I guarantee you that many (if not most) football coaches share Rolo's views surrounding his firing . . . including coaches on the current and recent Cal staff.

In my view, Rolo has a lot less baggage than Tosh.
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In reply to Shocky1 • 11:56p, 11/4/25
Shocky1 said:

goggles, luv u man but curious if u can give me a name or two for the rb1 prospect that the bears should target this offseason in "aiming higher" than the jet who got a 3.4 gpa who runs 21.1 miles per ******* hour & whose moms loves sitting in the north end zone with her family/friends on gamedays??

of course u can't actually name anybody, that rb1 prospect does not exist in the real world

not understanding why doechi keeps track of the bears gpas is just another sign of an largely ignorant fanbase at the #1 ranked public university in the world which is overall clueless as **** re: the realities of recruiting in berkeley

probably one of the most funny comments evah made to me by a cal fan wuz that they follow cal football recruiting but don't care about gpas

got it



I can't give you the name of the rbs because the portal isn't open yet. What i can do is point you to the fact the Jet's numbers at UCLA have been pretty bad and he was beat out by another rb who is not exactly lighting the world on fire. I can also point you to the fact that Javian jetted his ass out of Berkeley at a time when Cal really needed him and he took less $$ for UCLA. Maybe he should have though of his "moms" and his other family and friends then?

There will be lots of rbs in the portal - there are every year - and many will be eligible for admission to Cal. That position is probably one of my least worries for next year.

And my larger point was that if there's any consideration of bringing Burl back (???), Jet following him back is largely irrelevant to the decision. Far more relevant is that Burl was not a good wr coach at Cal.
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In reply to Shocky1 • 12:04a, 11/5/25
Shocky1 said:
funny **** on cal's monster thread: shocky asks for a name(s) of any head coaching candidate that is a better fit than tosh or a rb1 that is a better fit in berkeley than the jet and literally nobody can name nobody

and that's because there are only IMAGINARY answers to these very simple questions

fun fact: ron rivera has been immersed in the national football league since his berkeley days, he is not a ******* magician folks (which is apparently news to the "let's blow everything up and start over at 0-12" angry & frustrated old timers that don't deal in real world solutions anymore & that just wanna pontificate about irrelevant azz bears fb **** from decades ago or something)


^ shocky moves/identifies at modern yoga with the vibe put out there by the cajon box drummer to the far left that got good hair, he is lost in the music & happy as ****!!

https://instagr.am/p/DQpyg7lDlTt
r u shocky's future baby mama??#


This is really silly. I don't know the full list of candidates and neither do you. You don't know if Tosh is an actual candidate for that matter and/or if Jet will be in the portal (or if he wants to return to Cal). Only Rivera and his inner circle will know the coaching candidate names.

If I start throwing random names out - James Franklin or Lou Saban for example - what does that add? Same goes for throwing out random RB names when the portal is not even open yet.

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12:33a, 11/5/25

goggles, ur rite, shocky should quit making **** up and just shut the **** up, how could he possibly know anything??

good thing u got the super deluxe premium membership so u can be told that wyking jones is "a good man," "mark fox is liked by his players," "ryan coe will be a "big leg" upgrade over mateen bhaghani and "only ron rivera and his inner circle" know wut's going on with the football program




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questions of the universe: why is the undersized (other than z & charlie they all built like lean feral doggy dogs like shocky which is fine if u wanna someday become an uncertified substitute yoga teacher at modern yoga like shocky but no es bueno if wanna get PAID tens of millions dollars a year on the pga tour) cal men's golf team celebrating their sorry azz field goal kicking when the reality is that they are less athletic than some curvy brunette yoga females with a ponytail??

https://instagr.am/p/C4gVusfvZdJ
this **** is just messed up, wake the **** up moto, sihao & trevor!!

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https://instagr.am/p/DEi9a07y3GP
why does strength matter in professional golf??

check out max's beautifully synched up swing (hit 51 of 56 fairways in his last pga tournament at black desert at arches national park in utah), homa got his body rite (looks like a professional hockey or baseball player) which allows him to swing with his driver at 90% (and still carry his drives 290+ yards) & calibrate his off speed beautifully struck iron shots at closer to 80%.

contrast that to the undersized cal men's golf team (6 of the current 8 players & the 2 2026 cali high school commits) look like lean feral doggy dogs like shocky which means they are violently swinging at the ball to maximize their yardages

and how does that work out in golf??

they recently lost to an ivy league school in match play at the cathedral of golf st andrews old course & last week finished DEAD LAST in a candy azz soft field in carmel, no es bueno

and that's why pga golfers track their daily consumption of protein grams, rory takes in 170 grams every day which matches his weight...hopefully coach wilson & coach ireland will transparently share the beginning & ending weights for everyone on the 8 player roster during the current 60 day winter break before the bears next tournament in tuscon in january

fun fact: the california golden bears BIG 4 of max homa, michael kim, collin morikawa & byeong hun "ben" an are aggregately earning both on & off the golf course this year approximately $50,000,000+

https://instagr.am/p/DPRx8wejmEj
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In reply to Shocky1 • 9:09a, 11/5/25
Shocky1 said:
https://instagr.am/p/DEi9a07y3GP
why does strength matter in professional golf??

check out max's beautifully synched up swing (hit 51 of 56 fairways in his last pga tournament at black desert at arches national park in utah), homa got his body rite (looks like a professional hockey or baseball player) which allows him to swing with his driver at 90% (and still carry his drives 290+ yards) & calibrate his off speed beautifully struck iron shots at closer to 80%.

contrast that to the undersized cal men's golf team (6 of the current 8 players & the 2 2026 cali high school commits) look like lean feral doggy dogs like shocky which means they are violently swinging at the ball to maximize their yardages

and how does that work out in golf??

they recently lost to an ivy league school in match play at the cathedral of golf st andrews old course & last week finished DEAD LAST in a candy azz soft field in carmel, no es bueno

and that's why pga golfers track their daily consumption of protein grams, rory takes in 170 grams every day which matches his weight...hopefully coach wilson & coach ireland will transparently share the beginning & ending weights for everyone on the 8 player roster during the current 60 day winter break before the bears next tournament in tuscon in january

fun fact: the california golden bears BIG 4 of max homa, michael kim, collin morikawa & byeong hun "ben" an are aggregately earning both on & off the golf course this year approximately $50,000,000+

https://instagr.am/p/DPRx8wejmEj
don't be a dumb azz (belts & underwear r for losers)#


Golf strength and flexibility matter a tremendous amount. If Cal golf is sort of half assing this at their level that's a problem. Every great golfer is in incredible golfing shape. No more 'just play golf' guys. You have to hit the off course training to be great.
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In reply to Shocky1 • 9:38a, 11/5/25
Shocky1 said:
funny **** on cal's monster thread: shocky asks for a name(s) of any head coaching candidate that is a better fit than tosh or a rb1 that is a better fit in berkeley than the jet and literally nobody can name nobody

and that's because there are only IMAGINARY answers to these very simple questions

fun fact: ron rivera has been immersed in the national football league since his berkeley days, he is not a ******* magician folks (which is apparently news to the "let's blow everything up and start over at 0-12" angry & frustrated old timers that don't deal in real world solutions anymore & that just wanna pontificate about irrelevant azz bears fb **** from decades ago or something)


^ shocky moves/identifies at modern yoga with the vibe put out there by the cajon box drummer to the far left that got good hair, he is lost in the music & happy as ****!!

https://instagr.am/p/DQpyg7lDlTt
r u shocky's future baby mama??#


It's called humility, Shocky. Try some of that. We know what we don't know. We hired a guy to pick the best candidate. He has expertise. We don't. It would be as stupid for us to name specific candidates as it is stupid for you to claim you know one candidate is the best we can do.

Again, your fixation with particular names instead of results is very sus. What it indicates is you are more concerned with getting people in place that you have connections to than you are with finding the best candidate. Which is completely consistent with your past behavior, disappearing from the scene when you didn't like those in power.
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9:54a, 11/5/25
^ not so fun fact: bearly, shocky's "disappearance" as a floor seat donor to men's basketball wuz 100% due to greg richardson sending me a message that cal's monster class wuz gonna be "discontinued" due to this board heading in a new direction with him & eric mcdonough and that this cancellation wuz also the wishes of then new head coach wyking jones (who received wut shocky thought wuz a privileged confidential email to richardson re: jones failure to return phone calls to the las vegas stars aau program)

the irony wuz that in his message richardson indicated to me that he hoped i would remain a donor to the basketball program which didn't happen & also explains my zero interest in the cal football nil program that he's involved in

and the bears have lost almost 200+ basketball games since the termination of cal's monster class & my yoga bro jaylen brown like me got zero ******* interest in doing anything to help the program rite now

fyi, shocky does not have a personal relationship with tosh lupoi at this time, he's simply the personable (extroverted) poly berkeley grad with high energy that is overwhelmingly the best (and maybe only) head coach candidate to take the football program to the next level on gamedays/the recruiting trail

fafo#
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In reply to BearGoggles • 10:08a, 11/5/25
BearGoggles said:
calumnus said:
BearGoggles said:
AZ Bear said:
Shocky, I like Rolo and I really hope he returns to Cal next year in some capacity.

I know you are advocating for Lupoi as the next HC, but it that doesn't happen, your next choice was Rolo.

Honest question though: why do you think Cal would be so much better off next year with Rolo as head coach and Wilcox and Harsin gone? Is it recruiting? In-game head coaching decisions?

Rolo as HC with Anae, Saffell and a bunch of the defensive coaches returning seems very similar to this year's set-up. Is having a more outwardly emotional leader (in Rolo) as the HC vs. Wilcox's demeanor a big factor, in your opinion?

We have already been recruiting successfully in the poly community, so I don't don't see that as a major source of improvement. Rolo is good with JKS, but if anything, Rolo would have less time to mentor JKS during games than he does now .

Yes, Wilcox has made some in-game tactical errors this year, but is that really why we're losing games? And is Rolo going to eliminate those errors -- is he known as a great in-game coach?

Again, I like Rolo and Anae, Soto, Brown, Saffell, etc. But just cutting Wilcox (and paying his buyout) and then saddling up again with most of the existing leadership does not seem transformational. Are we so close that we don't need transformational and we just need the guy at the top gone?

Not Shocky by I'll chime in. I think Rolo would be an upgrade to Wilcox simply because he has 100 times more people skills/charisma, enjoys recruiting, and seems to bond/motivate players. Rolo is on social media and has a pretty good record as a head coach and before that as a coordinator.

I'm not saying Rolo is or should be the first choice or even the second choice. I don't know the other options. But I do believe he'd be an upgrade to Wilcox, which is a pretty low bar to be honest.

Rolo's record as a recruiter (Class Rank)
2016 Hawaii #108
2017 Hawaii #86
2018 Hawaii #95
2019 Hawaii #114
2020 WSU #55
2021 WSU #61

As a head coach, Rolo has never landed a single 4 or 5 star recruit.

His team records are poor except for 2019 when his Hawaii team went 10-5, boosted by playing 15 games, but lost to all the good teams they played, except maybe 7-6 BYU in the Hawaii Bowl and finished ranked #81 in Sagarin. That was the peak. It did get him the WSU job when Leach left for Mississippi State on January 9, 2020 forcing WSU to hire late in the cycle and try to find a coach that might succeed with his Air Raid roster. He went 5-6 at WSU before getting fired (a win over FCS Portland State, a wins over 2-5 OSU, and 7-6 OSU, a win over 5-7 Wilcox and a win over 3-9 Stanford. I won't go into the issues surrounding his mid season firing, but anyone who thinks Cal and Berkeley would be better suited for him than WSU was is delusional.

Hawaii is my second favorite team. I had family friends on June Jones' staff when Rolo was QB. We would drive Jones to the games and the after party after his DUI. I like Rolo, he is far more personable than Wilcox. I do think he would be an upgrade over Wilcox, but not enough to move the needle, we need a better recruiter for Cal and we do not need his baggage.

Since you're from Hawaii, can you point me to the time when Hawaii has ever had a highly ranked recruiting class and landed for or 5 stars? For Hawaii and WSU, those are decent recruiting ratings. And, perhaps more importantly, I think Rolo did a good job coaching the talent he had.

And just to be clear, the question was why Rolo would be an upgrade to Wilcox. I wasn't suggesting Rolo was the best choice - can't make that claim because I don't know who the realistic choices are. I do find it interesting that you're referring to Rolo's "baggage" (which is not considered baggage by a whole lot of people). I guarantee you that many (if not most) football coaches share Rolo's views surrounding his firing . . . including coaches on the current and recent Cal staff.

In my view, Rolo has a lot less baggage than Tosh.


I'm really not interested in looking up historical recruiting data to bolster calumnus' point and honestly I think his recruiting record at Hawaii is largely irrelevant as it a very unique place to recruit to, presenting unique challenges and advantages. That said, pro-Rolo people are claiming he is a great recruiter with less evidence than calumnus provides to the contrary. Would like to see the actual evidence of this because at a high level it doesn't appear that teams he coached for had a particular recruiting surge.

That said, in terms of actual, overall performance, June Jones wasn't that long before Rolo and he had much more success in terms of wins and losses, so the idea that Rolo achieved something that is difficult to achieve at Hawaii is not true. He also took over at WSU for a very successful Mike Leach and did significantly worse. Again a program people seem to be assuming was dismal.

Regarding baggage, I don't care and wouldn't bring it up. However, I think some are almost supportive of him, subconsciously or not, because of that baggage, when they wouldn't support a coach of his record without it.

As for being an upgrade to Wilcox, maybe barely. Maybe not. His record is pretty Wilcoxian, though I acknowledge better at a lower level. I would point out that Walt Harris on paper was a clear upgrade over Buddy Teevans. His record at Pitt was better than Rolo's record. I thought that was a bad hire and I think Rolo would be.

Coaches with near .500 records should not be considered. I keep seeing people saying that is not disqualifying because because because, but that misses the point. Even if it is isn't disqualifying, there is nothing QUALIFYING. There is no positive data supporting anything. There is only subjective assumptions mostly from people who have barely seen him who assume they know something about his personality. I've been asking people all year why they were so excited by him and gotten squat in response. So statistically speaking his teams have been meh, and his offenses have been meh and all I've heard is excuses about why they are meh and no argument why he is good other than the assertion that they think JKS likes him, which to my knowledge JKS has not spoken publicly about.
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In reply to Shocky1 • 10:18a, 11/5/25
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^ not so fun fact: bearly, shocky's "disappearance" as a floor seat donor to men's basketball wuz 100% due to greg richardson sending me a message that cal's monster class wuz gonna be "discontinued" due to this board heading in a new direction with him & eric mcdonough and that this cancellation wuz also the wishes of then new head coach wyking jones (who received wut shocky thought wuz a privileged confidential email to richardson re: jones failure to return phone calls to the las vegas stars aau program)

the irony wuz that in his message richardson indicated to me that he hoped i would remain a donor to the basketball program which didn't happen & also explains my zero interest in the cal football nil program that he's involved in

and the bears have lost almost 200+ basketball games since the termination of cal's monster class & my yoga bro jaylen brown like me got zero ******* interest in doing anything to help the program rite now

fyi, shocky does not have a personal relationship with tosh lupoi at this time, he's simply the personable (extroverted) poly berkeley grad with high energy that is overwhelmingly the best (and maybe only) head coach candidate to take the football program to the next level on gamedays/the recruiting trail

fafo#


Most of us wouldn't withdraw support for Cal because a coach and board moderator wanted our thread deleted. And any reasonable person would see that it is perfectly reasonable for a college coach to want to control recruiting messaging no matter how well intended a poster might be.

Quite frankly a lot of people thought at the time your messaging would play positively with some and negatively with others. You took it upon yourself to replace your judgment over those of the coaches and recruiting coordinators who are trained and hired to do that job. Now you want to replace your judgment over Rivera's and you want us to follow along. I have not even said it shouldn't be Tosh. I've said Rivera should do a thorough search and make a decision. And you personally insult everyone who makes the extremely non controversial point that it's Ron's decision, not yours.

Humility, Shocky.
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goggles, ur rite, shocky should quit making **** up and just shut the **** up, how could he possibly know anything??

good thing u got the super deluxe premium membership so u can be told that wyking jones is "a good man," "mark fox is liked by his players," "ryan coe will be a "big leg" upgrade over mateen bhaghani and "only ron rivera and his inner circle" know wut's going on with the football program





We're having a discussion here about coaching and rb candidates that has literally nothing to do with the premium board, anything written there, or for that matter what the moderators/donors are saying.

I didn't say you don't know "anything" (apologies for the double negative). I said that you don't know the full list of coaching/rb candidates because that list is not currently knowable by anyone. I do think Ron Rivera and others in the program/AD (particularly the assistant coaches who are recruiting and working the portal) have better insights into those things than you or I do. If you have inside information, then by all means present it as such and I'll give it more credence.

Do you trust Rivera to make good decisions? That is the ultimate issue in my view.
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You know what they say about opinions, comparing them to a certain body part. That's what this debate is, people having opinions. I just accept that people have different opinions, which they're entitled to.

Personally, I really have no idea who the next coach should be. For example, people are pushing Tim Plough because of the success he's having at Davis, just as people pushed Troy Taylor after he was successful at Davis . . . until he went to Furd, was not successful and had a harassment complaint made against him.

What I do know, in one of the many parallels I'm finding between 2025 and the Holmoecaust (2001), is that I remember thinking about the search for a coach then, and thinking that I was happy that it was Steve Gladstone making the choice, because at least he was someone who had some idea of what it takes to be a good coach, considering how many crew titles he won.

IN RON I TRUST
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You know what they say about opinions, comparing them to a certain body part. That's what this debate is, people having opinions. I just accept that people have different opinions, which they're entitled to.

Personally, I really have no idea who the next coach should be. For example, people are pushing Tim Plough because of the success he's having at Davis, just as people pushed Troy Taylor after he was successful at Davis . . . until he went to Furd, was not successful and had a harassment complaint made against him.

What I do know, in one of the many parallels I'm finding between 2025 and the Holmoecaust (2001), is that I remember thinking about the search for a coach then, and thinking that I was happy that it was Steve Gladstone making the choice, because at least he was someone who had some idea of what it takes to be a good coach, considering how many crew titles he won.

IN RON I TRUST

I agree with you on this one. First of all, my opinion is just that and just for fun. Second of all, my opinion is only about who I would put on the first list. The first list to me is the very large list I make of people I think deserve a cursory review. That cursory review leads to the second, still list that I spend a reasonable time vetting. From that list, I do very serious review to determine an interview list.

For instance, I like Tim Plough to go on that first list. That may mean you look at him for 5 minutes and go "oh, hell no." and he doesn't get serious consideration. And, by the way, I would put Tosh on that list even if I'm not that excited by him.

And whatever, I go with Ron's list. I won't be excited if certain guys are the ultimate hire, but exciting me on press conference day is not the goal here. (I don't think many Cal fans were particularly excited by Bruce Snyder). And actually, exciting Rivera or Lyons on press conference day is not the goal here. Exciting us on the field is. If everyone loves the selection and he goes 1-11, no one is going to remember how they felt at the press conference. Same holds true if they hate the pick and he goes 12-0.
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I will now go into the realm of extreme historical speculation, which will probably piss a lot of people off. I believe there is a semi-conspiracy in the football coaching world, that believes Cal is a bad place to be, that goes back to the firing of Jeff Tedford. Coaches, I believe, talk to each other, and know the stories behind what happens to their colleagues. It was reported by those in the know here, that Tedford knew some players he was recruiting were academic risks, asked for more money for academic support, and was turned down. If that's true, the narrative becomes, "He dragged them kicking and screaming to build better facilities, he tried to get better players, didn't get the support he needed, then got ****canned after basically having only two losing seasons out of the last three."

I started having this feeling because I was shocked that after spending all the money on the facilities, the best choice we could come up with to replace Tedford was the coach at Louisiana Tech (Sonny D.). Which is why I still believe the biggest mistake, other than not paying Bruce Snyder, was not having Tedford take a one-year sabbatical for his health. Again, pure speculation, but I think it's plausible. It's why there doesn't seem to be much concern about Wilcox getting another job, nor much shock that Sonny was trying to leave again almost from the moment he got here. The assumption is that the football coach's failings are Cal's, not the coach's.
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the university of california, berkeley=#1 ranked public university in the world (including the beautiful people of alaska)
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gpas matter in berkeley (don't be a dumb azz)!!#
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louisville injury report:

huge loss for the cards rushing attack with acc's most explosive rb1 Isaac brown out against them visiting golden bears

2024: 1,173 yards with a 7.1 ypc
2025: 782 yards with an unreal 8.6 ypc
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^ not so fun fact: bearly, shocky's "disappearance" as a floor seat donor to men's basketball wuz 100% due to greg richardson sending me a message that cal's monster class wuz gonna be "discontinued" due to this board heading in a new direction with him & eric mcdonough and that this cancellation wuz also the wishes of then new head coach wyking jones (who received wut shocky thought wuz a privileged confidential email to richardson re: jones failure to return phone calls to the las vegas stars aau program)

the irony wuz that in his message richardson indicated to me that he hoped i would remain a donor to the basketball program which didn't happen & also explains my zero interest in the cal football nil program that he's involved in

and the bears have lost almost 200+ basketball games since the termination of cal's monster class & my yoga bro jaylen brown like me got zero ******* interest in doing anything to help the program rite now

fyi, shocky does not have a personal relationship with tosh lupoi at this time, he's simply the personable (extroverted) poly berkeley grad with high energy that is overwhelmingly the best (and maybe only) head coach candidate to take the football program to the next level on gamedays/the recruiting trail

fafo#

You can chose to not donate or support Cal Basketball or Cal Football for whatever reason you want. Tying it to a fan supported website and "your" thread is IMO specious in the extreme but if that's the narrative that helps you sleep at night, then by all means. However, that's a narrative you need to keep to yourself, as you can't change what actually occurred or accuse me or anyone else of things that simply aren't true in a public venue.

You were never banned from this website. You were simply asked to obey the terms of service which includes not sharing personal facts about the people involved in Cal athletics, e.g. players and not posting soft porn. You were extremely unhappy about having to live within that set of rules. After accusing me of censorship and threatening me with legal action, you eventually left only to later return and for the most part have done so following the rules of this website.

I'm simply not going to tolerate you or anyone else coming to this site and stating things that aren't true about this website or the staff of this website. If you continue to do so, you will be asked to leave. Outside of that, I hope you choose to stay and continue to post so long as you continue to obey our terms of service.

You absolutely can and do add value to this community whether you donate or not. Your passion, energy, sense of humor and unique elan engender conversation. IMO, You need not defend yourself or explain anything about your donation level to anyone.
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^ revisionist history is now including new allegations of "soft porn??"

wowza!!

cal's monster class: https://bearinsider.com/forums/8/topics/11616
cal's monster class deus: https://bearinsider.com/forums/8/topics/28431/1

https://instagr.am/p/DN_LUGHjvIh
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Shocky, We need you here. And when your heart is in it, Cal needs you too.
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We need you shocky!
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Shocky goes and I go also

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Predictably pathetic, mental health is real.
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^ revisionist history is now including new allegations of "soft porn??"

wowza!!

cal's monster class: https://bearinsider.com/forums/8/topics/11616
cal's monster class deus: https://bearinsider.com/forums/8/topics/28431/1

https://instagr.am/p/DN_LUGHjvIh

I should have said leaning into soft porn.
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