Buy a tortilla press and finally attempt making house tortillas

Beef Wellington Part 2 - This time we don't burn the duxelles

Prison pen pal exchanges with E. Holmes

Multiple bed bath and beyond trips

Chapman_is_Gone said:

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As many of us have found, Premier League soccer is a nice place to turn. And, hopefully the quality of play in the MLS improves to the point that it is acceptable and even exciting.

If you don't like soccer… oh well.

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MLS is atrocious. They are in the middle of a tournament where the refereeing has become a joke, some of the worst blown calls ever. Europeans are literally laughing at how hard the MLS is working to hand victories to Messi. Prior to the MLS Messi was a good 450+ goals behind Pele's goal scoring record, but at the rate he's scoring in MLS he will destroy his own annual goal scoring record and may even pass Pele. He has 8 goals in 5 games.

Watch Premier League, La Liga, Bundesliga, and Serie A. They're all really good, especially if you want to a vacation to Europe and see what crazy fans are like. but stay away from games with Serbian teams playing. Some Serbian fans literally killed a Greek futbol fan in a Champions League match scuffle outside the stadium. The Hooligans have pretty much been brought under control in the top 5 leagues, but there are still some ultras out there. anyway, its a good outlet for american college football fans whose hearts are breaking about the loss of college traditions.

will start over 65 coed flag football games-have to have alcohol blood level .15 or better to play free admission

I will restart the local Beer Mile competition!

bearsandgiants said:

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sycasey said:

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Econ141 said:

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StarsDoMatter said:

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Actually they are quite similar.

Sonny Dykes talked about how little the Cal admins cared about football. Lack of any institutional support. Apathetic fan base. Everything he said was absolutely right.

Instead, and quite predictably, he was demonized. Many fans never accepted him.

He inherited a giant mess, but left cal better than he found it.

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Sonny was right and I think the admins are learning a painful lesson. Unfortunately too late to save Cal football.

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Lack of administrative support has definitely been the issue for a long time. Some coaches (Tedford) could navigate it better than others, at least for a time.

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Tedford could have kept it going just fine if he wasn't so stubborn about playing a terrible Longshore and wasn't such an wuss on 4th and short.

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2012 Ohio State was the biggest ***** coaching move ever.

calumnus said:

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sycasey said:

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Econ141 said:

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StarsDoMatter said:

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Actually they are quite similar.

Sonny Dykes talked about how little the Cal admins cared about football. Lack of any institutional support. Apathetic fan base. Everything he said was absolutely right.

Instead, and quite predictably, he was demonized. Many fans never accepted him.

He inherited a giant mess, but left cal better than he found it.

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Sonny was right and I think the admins are learning a painful lesson. Unfortunately too late to save Cal football.

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Lack of administrative support has definitely been the issue for a long time. Some coaches (Tedford) could navigate it better than others, at least for a time.

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Tedford had support. We built a $500 million stadium/SAHPC for Tedford. He with Tosh brought in stars and trashed our APR, creating an academic disaster that Dykes had to turn around while trying to win with tougher standards and Wilcox has had to maintain.

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Who cares most of our players then couldn't spell Cal even if spotted them the "C&L", I want to watch a winning football team not a spelling bee....

Strykur said:

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bearsandgiants said:

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sycasey said:

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Econ141 said:

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StarsDoMatter said:

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Actually they are quite similar.

Sonny Dykes talked about how little the Cal admins cared about football. Lack of any institutional support. Apathetic fan base. Everything he said was absolutely right.

Instead, and quite predictably, he was demonized. Many fans never accepted him.

He inherited a giant mess, but left cal better than he found it.

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Sonny was right and I think the admins are learning a painful lesson. Unfortunately too late to save Cal football.

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Lack of administrative support has definitely been the issue for a long time. Some coaches (Tedford) could navigate it better than others, at least for a time.

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Tedford could have kept it going just fine if he wasn't so stubborn about playing a terrible Longshore and wasn't such an wuss on 4th and short.

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2012 Ohio State was the biggest ***** coaching move ever.

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Tedford had lost his mojo towards the end. He was putting in looong hours which may have (guess on my part), led to losing his perspective. Details/decision-making were slipping and he grew too conservative. His health slipped.

All props to the great things JT accomplished though, which will be his Cal legacy!

Will note that, while we did end up revamping the facilities and JT was well-compensated, the salaries for the rest of his staff were lower-division in the Pac.

Sadly, Cal will have no legacy. Rogers, Lynch, Jordan, Roth - those names will get zero exposure once we are in the MWC or give up football all together.

Tedford had an electrifying start- that first play pulled everyone out of their seats and said, " the times are changing".. Always in debt to him for some of the greatest viewing experiences of my life.

Looks like they want to shut the program down early:

Luck and GK met with Apple for a long time today. If they are able to pull off a merger with AAC that voids espn contract that might be the best path forward $$ for the schools involved.

— MHver3 (@MHver3) August 12, 2023

StarsDoMatter said:

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You keep repeating this on every thread. Move on!

Sonny Dykes is legit competing for national championships while our lame duck head coach is hoping to win 6 games.

We look like massive losers with how the Sonny Dykes situation turned out.

Now look at us, completely unwanted, in this beyond embarrassing situation. But sure keep reminding us about Sonny's lack of defense. Sad.

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Cool story.

Or are you going to tell me that Dykes was able to RECRUIT the same kind of talent level to come to CAL as he did at TCU?

bearsandgiants said:

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Tedford could have kept it going just fine if he wasn't so stubborn about playing a terrible Longshore and wasn't such an wuss on 4th and short.

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Yup... you can sure say that again.
His stubbornness when it came to Nate Longshore cost us bigly.
It was painful to watch.

Lol

Dykes just went to the national championship with recruits that weren't even his. 1st year making the natty proves elite coaching skills.

Keep talking about his defense from a decade ago lol. Joke.

StarsDoMatter said:

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Lol

Dykes just went to the national championship with recruits that weren't even his. 1st year making the natty proves elite coaching skills.

Keep talking about his defense from a decade ago lol. Joke.

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You're the one who keeps whining and pining over a coach that hasnt been in Berkeley since 2016.
Not me.

PS. We had Andy Buh as DC in 2013 and he was reassigned by Dykes after giving up 46 points per game. After that disastrous season, the defensive tackles coach Barry Sacks was fired as was DB coach Randy Stewart.

Dykes then hired Art Kaufman. Kaufman had a Top 10 Defense at Cincy and lasted 3 years at CAL before getting fired as Cal was giving up 42.6 points per game. That was the 2nd worst mark in the Nation!

TCU had Joe Gillespie as DC and way more talent.

Big difference my friend.

Those were tough times. I was never good at sprinkler repair so at least you had an outlet

To answer your specific question - refocus on Cal Basketball - Men's and Women's. I actually think these days the women's game is more watchable. They still actually drive the lane and try to get short jumpers and layups. So often in men's ball now, it is go down the court and toss the ball around the arc until someone can get an open 3.

...but I digress

I don't think we'll drop football if for no other reason than it is a bad look for a school that sank > $600M into a stadium rebuild and facilities.

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I also love F1 but rooting for any one team in F1 is a fool's errand. Entire decades/eras are won by a single manufacturer at a time and there is very little hope for anyone else during those dominant periods. Drive to Survive has however done an incredible job of capturing the real drama in F1 which is and always has been the behind the scenes soap opera which makes up for the lack of drama on track.

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As a lifelong F1 fan who has enjoyed attending some of the races in Montreal (pre-turbo era) I can concur that the sport has become incredibly boring.

Sadly, "Drive to Survive" has been 50X more exciting than the actual racing.

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I find this years F1 season very competitive if you disregard the Red Bull team. The tier 2 (Mercedes, McLaren, Ferrari and Aston Martin) teams race results against each other vary by race course. The third tier teams are also very competitive among themselves. Who would have thought that a Williams could qualify in the top 10. The cost-cap has increased the competitiveness compared to a few years before.

Follow my kids' college teams. And Aaron & the Jets.

And this is why we're Cal and not Ohio State.
The correct answer, given the context…
Is to hang out by the door of Cheney hall until someone lets you in; Rile up a bunch of ruggers and frat types; steal one or several couches from the common area; carry them to memorial; and light them on fire; then maybe incite a small riot.

KenBurnski said:

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Buy a tortilla press and finally attempt making house tortillas

Beef Wellington Part 2 - This time we don't burn the duxelles

Prison pen pal exchanges with E. Holmes

Multiple bed bath and beyond trips

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I hate to break it to you about bed bath and beyond.

My wife and I have been talking about retirement/empty nest plans. One is to spend a couple falls road-tripping to various college football venues. E.g. go to Ole Miss one weekend, Clemson the next weekend, FSU, and so on. Go to classic venues of the Big Ten, SEC, and so on. Ideally catch rivalry games as much as possible.

If Cal football is gone or relegated, I'd be too angry and bitter so that wouldn't happen.

At least my fall Saturdays and New Years Day will be open for other things.

DiabloWags said:

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During the Sonny Dykes era, I got tired of our joke defense and watching us lose after being up 42 - 10 at halftime.

I spent my Fall Saturdays doing sprinkler repair. I was not alone doing this.

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I seem to remember more games when we were down 42-10 at halftime.

DiabloWags said:

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StarsDoMatter said:

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You keep repeating this on every thread. Move on!

Sonny Dykes is legit competing for national championships while our lame duck head coach is hoping to win 6 games.

We look like massive losers with how the Sonny Dykes situation turned out.

Now look at us, completely unwanted, in this beyond embarrassing situation. But sure keep reminding us about Sonny's lack of defense. Sad.

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Cool story.

Or are you going to tell me that Dykes was able to RECRUIT the same kind of talent level to come to CAL as he did at TCU?

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Actually better, like 5 star Demetris Robertson. He had a top 10 offense at Cal. Wilcox had a top 10 defense with the players Dykes recruited.

He was in his first year at TCU last year, so it was mostly players he inherited that he coached to the National Championship game. Huge turnaround.

My Saturdays in the fall will suddenly become much more open. I will likely just increase my interest in my local pro teams, though (49ers, Giants, Warriors).

calumnus said:

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DiabloWags said:

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StarsDoMatter said:

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You keep repeating this on every thread. Move on!

Sonny Dykes is legit competing for national championships while our lame duck head coach is hoping to win 6 games.

We look like massive losers with how the Sonny Dykes situation turned out.

Now look at us, completely unwanted, in this beyond embarrassing situation. But sure keep reminding us about Sonny's lack of defense. Sad.

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Cool story.

Or are you going to tell me that Dykes was able to RECRUIT the same kind of talent level to come to CAL as he did at TCU?

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Actually better, like 5 star Demetris Robertson. He had a top 10 offense at Cal. Wilcox had a top 10 defense with the players Dykes recruited.

He was in his first year at TCU last year, so it was mostly players he inherited that he coached to the National Championship game. Huge turnaround.

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The hate boner this board for Dykes is ridiculous. People were celebrating TCU's loss to Georgia, completely ignoring what it took to get the championship game in the first place.

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calumnus said:

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DiabloWags said:

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StarsDoMatter said:

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You keep repeating this on every thread. Move on!

Sonny Dykes is legit competing for national championships while our lame duck head coach is hoping to win 6 games.

We look like massive losers with how the Sonny Dykes situation turned out.

Now look at us, completely unwanted, in this beyond embarrassing situation. But sure keep reminding us about Sonny's lack of defense. Sad.

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Cool story.

Or are you going to tell me that Dykes was able to RECRUIT the same kind of talent level to come to CAL as he did at TCU?

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Actually better, like 5 star Demetris Robertson. He had a top 10 offense at Cal. Wilcox had a top 10 defense with the players Dykes recruited.

He was in his first year at TCU last year, so it was mostly players he inherited that he coached to the National Championship game. Huge turnaround.

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The hate boner this board for Dykes is ridiculous. People were celebrating TCU's loss to Georgia, completely ignoring what it took to get the championship game in the first place.

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Dykes was not successful at Cal. That is a fact regardless of the reasons. I bear (sorry for the pun) him no malice as I think he put his heart into his job and left Cal better than he found it. I think he is a great coach who just didn't succeed here. I think the same of Marv Levy: a great coach (NFL HOF) who was not successful in his brief tenure here. I rooted for Levy in Kansas City and Buffalo. I rooted for Dykes at SMU and TCU. I root for Tedford. I would like to see Dykes and Tedford so successful that they are inducted in the CFB HOF because I appreciate their efforts with our school and it would be good for Cal to have two more past coaches in the HOF along with Andy Smith, Buck Shaw, and Pappy Waldorf.

southseasbear said:

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DoubtfulBear said:

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calumnus said:

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DiabloWags said:

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StarsDoMatter said:

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You keep repeating this on every thread. Move on!

Sonny Dykes is legit competing for national championships while our lame duck head coach is hoping to win 6 games.

We look like massive losers with how the Sonny Dykes situation turned out.

Now look at us, completely unwanted, in this beyond embarrassing situation. But sure keep reminding us about Sonny's lack of defense. Sad.

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Cool story.

Or are you going to tell me that Dykes was able to RECRUIT the same kind of talent level to come to CAL as he did at TCU?

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Actually better, like 5 star Demetris Robertson. He had a top 10 offense at Cal. Wilcox had a top 10 defense with the players Dykes recruited.

He was in his first year at TCU last year, so it was mostly players he inherited that he coached to the National Championship game. Huge turnaround.

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The hate boner this board for Dykes is ridiculous. People were celebrating TCU's loss to Georgia, completely ignoring what it took to get the championship game in the first place.

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Dykes was not successful at Cal. That is a fact regardless of the reasons. I bear (sorry for the pun) him no malice as I think he put his heart into his job and left Cal better than he found it. I think he is a great coach who just didn't succeed here. I think the same of Marv Levy: a great coach (NFL HOF) who was not successful in his brief tenure here. I rooted for Levy in Kansas City and Buffalo. I rooted for Dykes at SMU and TCU. I root for Tedford. I would like to see Dykes and Tedford so successful that they are inducted in the CFB HOF because I appreciate their efforts with our school and it would be good for Cal to have two more past coaches in the HOF along with Andy Smith, Buck Shaw, and Pappy Waldorf.

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Very good chance that the people here who hate Dykes (and in some cases, hate isn't strong enough a word) do so for reasons that have nothing to do with his performance as a coach. If it was all about job performance, they would be similarly psychosed over Saint Tom and the current guy.

The funny thing is, if they actually met him and had a chat, they might change their minds. I had the pleasure a few years back, and it was interesting where that conversation went. Perception definitely doesn't meet reality, trust me....But then again, most here probably wouldn't get beyond the drawl. Their eyes would spin, they'd begin to foam at the mouth and all reasoning powers would evaporate. Such is the world in the 2020s.

southseasbear said:

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DoubtfulBear said:

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calumnus said:

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DiabloWags said:

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StarsDoMatter said:

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You keep repeating this on every thread. Move on!

Sonny Dykes is legit competing for national championships while our lame duck head coach is hoping to win 6 games.

We look like massive losers with how the Sonny Dykes situation turned out.

Now look at us, completely unwanted, in this beyond embarrassing situation. But sure keep reminding us about Sonny's lack of defense. Sad.

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Cool story.

Or are you going to tell me that Dykes was able to RECRUIT the same kind of talent level to come to CAL as he did at TCU?

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Actually better, like 5 star Demetris Robertson. He had a top 10 offense at Cal. Wilcox had a top 10 defense with the players Dykes recruited.

He was in his first year at TCU last year, so it was mostly players he inherited that he coached to the National Championship game. Huge turnaround.

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The hate boner this board for Dykes is ridiculous. People were celebrating TCU's loss to Georgia, completely ignoring what it took to get the championship game in the first place.

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Dykes was not successful at Cal. That is a fact regardless of the reasons. I bear (sorry for the pun) him no malice as I think he put his heart into his job and left Cal better than he found it. I think he is a great coach who just didn't succeed here. I think the same of Marv Levy: a great coach (NFL HOF) who was not successful in his brief tenure here. I rooted for Levy in Kansas City and Buffalo. I rooted for Dykes at SMU and TCU. I root for Tedford. I would like to see Dykes and Tedford so successful that they are inducted in the CFB HOF because I appreciate their efforts with our school and it would be good for Cal to have two more past coaches in the HOF along with Andy Smith, Buck Shaw, and Pappy Waldorf.

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I haven't seen anyone on here proclaim that he was successful at Cal. Record wise, he wasn't. The situation he inherited from Tedford (APR disaster) made it virtually impossible for him to be successful.

He did groom Goff into the #1 pick and did a good job with Davis Webb. He brought in some elite recruits too. His offense were explosive, his defenses were generally bad to awful.

It was his first big time HC job (P5). He made some critical mistakes (Andy Buh, etc) but he has learned from them and has since accomplished some phenomenal things.

Won 10 games at SMU (first time the school has done that in over 30 years)
First coach ever to take a team to the playoff and win a game in his first year
2022 Big 12 coach of the year
2022 AP coach of the year

But for some reason so many weird Cal fans want to bring up his crappy defenses from a decade ago. We are potentially heading to the MWC, why are we still talking about this? Move on!

I had a similar experience when we crossed paths at a pro golf tournament in SF.

Rugby isn't going away and as a former rugger at Cal I will continue to support them and attend games.

Econ141 said:

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StarsDoMatter said:

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Actually they are quite similar.

Sonny Dykes talked about how little the Cal admins cared about football. Lack of any institutional support. Apathetic fan base. Everything he said was absolutely right.

Instead, and quite predictably, he was demonized. Many fans never accepted him.

He inherited a giant mess, but left cal better than he found it.

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Sonny was right and I think the admins are learning a painful lesson. Unfortunately too late to save Cal football.

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This

UrsineMaximus said:

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Rugby isn't going away and as a former rugger at Cal I will continue to support them and attend games.

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ursine, rugby should definitely not "go away," but it should transition into a club sport & still compete for championships...its 53 counters is too many when considering the necessary financially driven reduction in the number of ncca programs at cal...of course knowlton's bloated bureaucracy & mismanagement (extending fox & then using donor money the following year to fire him with a multi million dollar buyout) is compounding the existential crisis facing cal athletics

AAU & Big Cities are the focus for the Pac 4 expansion

Pac 4 and American Conference merger still in the talks per sources

— Jacob Lee (@CAL_SPORTS_) August 13, 2023

Looks like we are shutting down very soon.

Shocky1 said:

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UrsineMaximus said:

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Rugby isn't going away and as a former rugger at Cal I will continue to support them and attend games.

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ursine, rugby should definitely not "go away," but it should transition into a club sport & still compete for championships...its 53 counters is too many when considering the necessary financially driven reduction in the number of ncca programs at cal...of course knowlton's bloated bureaucracy & mismanagement (extending fox & then using donor money the following year to fire him with a multi million dollar buyout) is compounding the existential crisis facing cal athletics

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I thought rugby was self-funding, including women's? If so, no reason to relegate it to Club.

econ, of course u would accept any gloomy news, this guy got zero sources