Sugar Bowl Thread

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75bear
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That was almost an epic collapse for the ages. I don't have a dog in the fight, but I would have been gutted for Washington, the Huskies were the better team for most of the game.

Should be a really interesting Championship game, with a complete clash of styles. Michigan with their physical, smashmouth football, and Washington with their high scoring finesse passing attack.
TandemBear
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75bear said:

Did anyone else just see a woman pull down her top on that Bourbon St shot coming back from commercial, or was I hallucinating?
Missed it. I avoid commercials like the plague. Whenever my streaming service starts inserting mandatory ads into my recordings, I'm cancelling.

Timestamp? I recorded it and perhaps I'll go back & take a screenshot. You know, for posterity's sake.
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oski003 said:

75bear said:

How is Penix, Jr not higher up peoples' draft boards. He is so calm under pressure, always makes the right read, and throws dimes 30 or 40 yards downfield.


Penix is older than Trey Lance
Hilarious! By ONE day!
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TandemBear said:

75bear said:

Did anyone else just see a woman pull down her top on that Bourbon St shot coming back from commercial, or was I hallucinating?
Missed it. I avoid commercials like the plague. Whenever my streaming service starts inserting mandatory ads into my recordings, I'm cancelling.

Timestamp? I recorded it and perhaps I'll go back & take a screenshot. You know, for posterity's sake.
It wasn't during a commercial, it was coming back from commercial break. I can't remember when it was, but maybe around 5 or 6 minutes left in the 3rd quarter?

I noticed they didn't show any Bourbon St or New Orleans street shots after this. They just stuck with very safe blimp shots of the stadium from a mile overhead.
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Dam, Huskies play calling at the end of the game was atrocious. Instead of setting up a long drive, they have a 3 and out all passing by getting cute. And then when they could have taken a couple of kneel downs their man gets injured and time stops. Terrible clock management. But I'm glad they won in the end.
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75bear said:

TandemBear said:

75bear said:

Did anyone else just see a woman pull down her top on that Bourbon St shot coming back from commercial, or was I hallucinating?
Missed it. I avoid commercials like the plague. Whenever my streaming service starts inserting mandatory ads into my recordings, I'm cancelling.

Timestamp? I recorded it and perhaps I'll go back & take a screenshot. You know, for posterity's sake.
It wasn't during a commercial, it was coming back from commercial break. I can't remember when it was, but maybe around 5 or 6 minutes left in the 3rd quarter?

I noticed they didn't show any Bourbon St or New Orleans street shots after this. They just stuck with very safe blimp shots of the stadium from a mile overhead.
It was on Twitter. Kinda of nasty.
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nwbear84 said:

BearSD said:

TedfordTheGreat said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

BearSD said:

Big C said:


Who is projected to be UW's quarterback next season?

(I guess I haven't wrapped my head around the fact that that will have absolutely nothing to do with us.)

Former Miss State QB Will Rogers

Quote:

Former Mississippi State quarterback Will Rogers, who ranks No. 2 in SEC history in passing yards, told ESPN on Friday that he's committed to transferring to Washington.

Rogers is on an official visit at the school this weekend, and he told ESPN he committed to the staff. He has one year of eligibility remaining and will be immediately eligible. Rogers threw for 12,315 yards over four seasons in Starkville.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39114260/ex-mississippi-state-qb-rogers-transfer-washington
Word is that Will Rogers never met a NIL deal he didn't like.
looks like USC, Oregon and Washington will all reload for 1 year deals on an ongoing basis every. Single. year.

I am over them and hope we don't have to see them/talk about them but that's the new business model


Florida State did this too, they are getting Uiagalelei who played QB at Oregon State this season and at Clemson before that.


I'm beginning to really hate what I always thought would be the end of college football as we knew it. NIL and maybe even worse, unlimited transfers. But I guess they go hand in hand.


I know it's not good for our Bears, but I can't complain about the players who are difference makers getting real money to play games that are watched by millions and make the coaches, ADs, and universities filthy rich.
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in Texas's last possession they ran two terrible plays

UW got lucky they didn't just throw 4 passes into the end zone
Strykur
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HoopDreams said:

in Texas's last possession they ran two terrible plays

UW got lucky they didn't just throw 4 passes into the end zone
The routes the commentators suggested were perfect, *** was Sark doing, although the last throw by Ewers was not good
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BearSD said:

nwbear84 said:

BearSD said:

TedfordTheGreat said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

BearSD said:

Big C said:


Who is projected to be UW's quarterback next season?

(I guess I haven't wrapped my head around the fact that that will have absolutely nothing to do with us.)

Former Miss State QB Will Rogers

Quote:

Former Mississippi State quarterback Will Rogers, who ranks No. 2 in SEC history in passing yards, told ESPN on Friday that he's committed to transferring to Washington.

Rogers is on an official visit at the school this weekend, and he told ESPN he committed to the staff. He has one year of eligibility remaining and will be immediately eligible. Rogers threw for 12,315 yards over four seasons in Starkville.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39114260/ex-mississippi-state-qb-rogers-transfer-washington
Word is that Will Rogers never met a NIL deal he didn't like.
looks like USC, Oregon and Washington will all reload for 1 year deals on an ongoing basis every. Single. year.

I am over them and hope we don't have to see them/talk about them but that's the new business model
Florida State did this too, they are getting Uiagalelei who played QB at Oregon State this season and at Clemson before that.
I'm beginning to really hate what I always thought would be the end of college football as we knew it. NIL and maybe even worse, unlimited transfers. But I guess they go hand in hand.
I know it's not good for our Bears, but I can't complain about the players who are difference makers getting real money to play games that are watched by millions and make the coaches, ADs, and universities filthy rich.
We will be fine as long as we keep getting good portal classes, high school studs we may have issues with but a lot of those don't pan out well anyway.
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Strykur said:

BearSD said:

nwbear84 said:

BearSD said:

TedfordTheGreat said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

BearSD said:

Big C said:


Who is projected to be UW's quarterback next season?

(I guess I haven't wrapped my head around the fact that that will have absolutely nothing to do with us.)

Former Miss State QB Will Rogers

Quote:

Former Mississippi State quarterback Will Rogers, who ranks No. 2 in SEC history in passing yards, told ESPN on Friday that he's committed to transferring to Washington.

Rogers is on an official visit at the school this weekend, and he told ESPN he committed to the staff. He has one year of eligibility remaining and will be immediately eligible. Rogers threw for 12,315 yards over four seasons in Starkville.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39114260/ex-mississippi-state-qb-rogers-transfer-washington
Word is that Will Rogers never met a NIL deal he didn't like.
looks like USC, Oregon and Washington will all reload for 1 year deals on an ongoing basis every. Single. year.

I am over them and hope we don't have to see them/talk about them but that's the new business model
Florida State did this too, they are getting Uiagalelei who played QB at Oregon State this season and at Clemson before that.
I'm beginning to really hate what I always thought would be the end of college football as we knew it. NIL and maybe even worse, unlimited transfers. But I guess they go hand in hand.
I know it's not good for our Bears, but I can't complain about the players who are difference makers getting real money to play games that are watched by millions and make the coaches, ADs, and universities filthy rich.
We will be fine as long as we keep getting good portal classes, high school studs we may have issues with but a lot of those don't pan out well anyway.


I guess I don't mind college players getting some sort of compensation, but it is clearly out of hand. It's not college football anymore. The players making the big money aren't really in college are they? So why even put up the pretense?
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TandemBear
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75bear said:

TandemBear said:

75bear said:

Did anyone else just see a woman pull down her top on that Bourbon St shot coming back from commercial, or was I hallucinating?
Missed it. I avoid commercials like the plague. Whenever my streaming service starts inserting mandatory ads into my recordings, I'm cancelling.

Timestamp? I recorded it and perhaps I'll go back & take a screenshot. You know, for posterity's sake.
It wasn't during a commercial, it was coming back from commercial break. I can't remember when it was, but maybe around 5 or 6 minutes left in the 3rd quarter?

I noticed they didn't show any Bourbon St or New Orleans street shots after this. They just stuck with very safe blimp shots of the stadium from a mile overhead.
Thanks. It's funny that I actually remember seeing this segment, but I totally missed it!

It happened earlier in the game, at 7:57 left in the 3rd quarter, just before a UW field goal. It's at around 2:22:10 on the YouTube recording.

Crazy that made it past the censors, knowing what we know about Bourbon St.!
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chalcidbear said:

Dam, Huskies play calling at the end of the game was atrocious. Instead of setting up a long drive, they have a 3 and out all passing by getting cute. And then when they could have taken a couple of kneel downs their man gets injured and time stops. Terrible clock management. But I'm glad they won in the end.
I don't blame them for trying running plays on the last drive. You have to at least make some attempt to get the first down, which will end the game right there. Having your player get injured on that exact play is simply bad luck.
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sycasey said:

chalcidbear said:

Dam, Huskies play calling at the end of the game was atrocious. Instead of setting up a long drive, they have a 3 and out all passing by getting cute. And then when they could have taken a couple of kneel downs their man gets injured and time stops. Terrible clock management. But I'm glad they won in the end.
I don't blame them for trying running plays on the last drive. You have to at least make some attempt to get the first down, which will end the game right there. Having your player get injured on that exact play is simply bad luck.
That player was already playing hurt. They should have thrown screens at the least.
LunchTime
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Unreal collapse here.

How do you make so many mistakes to close out a game, and win.
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TedfordTheGreat said:

nwbear84 said:

BearSD said:

TedfordTheGreat said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

BearSD said:

Big C said:


Who is projected to be UW's quarterback next season?

(I guess I haven't wrapped my head around the fact that that will have absolutely nothing to do with us.)

Former Miss State QB Will Rogers

Quote:

Former Mississippi State quarterback Will Rogers, who ranks No. 2 in SEC history in passing yards, told ESPN on Friday that he's committed to transferring to Washington.

Rogers is on an official visit at the school this weekend, and he told ESPN he committed to the staff. He has one year of eligibility remaining and will be immediately eligible. Rogers threw for 12,315 yards over four seasons in Starkville.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39114260/ex-mississippi-state-qb-rogers-transfer-washington
Word is that Will Rogers never met a NIL deal he didn't like.
looks like USC, Oregon and Washington will all reload for 1 year deals on an ongoing basis every. Single. year.

I am over them and hope we don't have to see them/talk about them but that's the new business model


Florida State did this too, they are getting Uiagalelei who played QB at Oregon State this season and at Clemson before that.


I'm beginning to really hate what I always thought would be the end of college football as we knew it. NIL and maybe even worse, unlimited transfers. But I guess they go hand in hand.
There were posters on here, even mods, that suggested that this pay for play era will be good for Cal football. I was skeptical but cautiously optimistic because i heard our NIL funds were doing well. Now i think the truth rears itself. The unfortunately part is that this pay for play, transfer every year era is going to be TERRIBLE for Cal football.

We are going to be like the Oakland As or the Anaheim Angels, we are a farm league for the big guys. As soon as guys do well for a year or two (hunter), they will chase the big dollars at the biggest stage. Oregon got super lucky they got a great run under chip that sets them up for the future. Washington got Petersen and their fortunes are forever changed. "Traditions" can change and fortunes can change. It's an absolute shame that Tedford's era ended the way it did because we were trending up.

We need to hire that superstar coach to go on a run, otherwise, we have to be ok with the occasional 6-6 or 7-5 bowl every 3 years

I believe what some people have said is that the new system could conceivably be good for Cal Football (and Basketball) because we have alums who could bury a lot of B1G/SEC teams... if they chose to pony up. One reason (maybe) they haven't done that before is that it used to be against the rules. But now it's okay.

wc22
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Big C said:

TedfordTheGreat said:

nwbear84 said:

BearSD said:

TedfordTheGreat said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

BearSD said:

Big C said:


Who is projected to be UW's quarterback next season?

(I guess I haven't wrapped my head around the fact that that will have absolutely nothing to do with us.)

Former Miss State QB Will Rogers

Quote:

Former Mississippi State quarterback Will Rogers, who ranks No. 2 in SEC history in passing yards, told ESPN on Friday that he's committed to transferring to Washington.

Rogers is on an official visit at the school this weekend, and he told ESPN he committed to the staff. He has one year of eligibility remaining and will be immediately eligible. Rogers threw for 12,315 yards over four seasons in Starkville.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39114260/ex-mississippi-state-qb-rogers-transfer-washington
Word is that Will Rogers never met a NIL deal he didn't like.
looks like USC, Oregon and Washington will all reload for 1 year deals on an ongoing basis every. Single. year.

I am over them and hope we don't have to see them/talk about them but that's the new business model


Florida State did this too, they are getting Uiagalelei who played QB at Oregon State this season and at Clemson before that.


I'm beginning to really hate what I always thought would be the end of college football as we knew it. NIL and maybe even worse, unlimited transfers. But I guess they go hand in hand.
There were posters on here, even mods, that suggested that this pay for play era will be good for Cal football. I was skeptical but cautiously optimistic because i heard our NIL funds were doing well. Now i think the truth rears itself. The unfortunately part is that this pay for play, transfer every year era is going to be TERRIBLE for Cal football.

We are going to be like the Oakland As or the Anaheim Angels, we are a farm league for the big guys. As soon as guys do well for a year or two (hunter), they will chase the big dollars at the biggest stage. Oregon got super lucky they got a great run under chip that sets them up for the future. Washington got Petersen and their fortunes are forever changed. "Traditions" can change and fortunes can change. It's an absolute shame that Tedford's era ended the way it did because we were trending up.

We need to hire that superstar coach to go on a run, otherwise, we have to be ok with the occasional 6-6 or 7-5 bowl every 3 years

I believe what some people have said is that the new system could conceivably be good for Cal Football (and Basketball) because we have alums who could bury a lot of B1G/SEC teams... if they chose to pony up. One reason (maybe) they haven't done that before is that it used to be against the rules. But now it's okay.


No, I think you aren't looking at the whole. Hunter, his only example this year, graduated. The other impact transfer we lost this year is KEO. The question is if we gain more than we lose. It is an open question, but our transfer class looks strong, and we have retained all our impact non-graduates save KEO. Graduate transfers aren't new.

Last year we lost Sturdivant, which was a major loss, but we gained more than we lost to the transfer portal, overall, IMO.

I think NIL has benefited Cal football so far.

I also think this notion we can find another Tedford foolish. You want to tank NIL and all other athletic funds, ignoring convincing all our donors to go along with this, to take a chance you can find a Tedford? Also, would Tedford even be a good coach at the P4 level today without NIL?
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wc22 said:

sycasey said:

chalcidbear said:

Dam, Huskies play calling at the end of the game was atrocious. Instead of setting up a long drive, they have a 3 and out all passing by getting cute. And then when they could have taken a couple of kneel downs their man gets injured and time stops. Terrible clock management. But I'm glad they won in the end.
I don't blame them for trying running plays on the last drive. You have to at least make some attempt to get the first down, which will end the game right there. Having your player get injured on that exact play is simply bad luck.
That player was already playing hurt. They should have thrown screens at the least.

Then the argument is that they should have subbed in a healthier back, not that they should have kneeled.
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eastbayyoungbear said:

Huskies to give Sark another L.
Sark drinking flask tequila on the bus.
sycasey
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Anyway, here's a good argument why that rule that automatically stops the clock for an injury is dumb: it actually encourages the defense to try to injure someone if they need extra time.

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wc22 said:

Big C said:

TedfordTheGreat said:

nwbear84 said:

BearSD said:

TedfordTheGreat said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

BearSD said:

Big C said:


Who is projected to be UW's quarterback next season?

(I guess I haven't wrapped my head around the fact that that will have absolutely nothing to do with us.)

Former Miss State QB Will Rogers

Quote:

Former Mississippi State quarterback Will Rogers, who ranks No. 2 in SEC history in passing yards, told ESPN on Friday that he's committed to transferring to Washington.

Rogers is on an official visit at the school this weekend, and he told ESPN he committed to the staff. He has one year of eligibility remaining and will be immediately eligible. Rogers threw for 12,315 yards over four seasons in Starkville.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39114260/ex-mississippi-state-qb-rogers-transfer-washington
Word is that Will Rogers never met a NIL deal he didn't like.
looks like USC, Oregon and Washington will all reload for 1 year deals on an ongoing basis every. Single. year.

I am over them and hope we don't have to see them/talk about them but that's the new business model


Florida State did this too, they are getting Uiagalelei who played QB at Oregon State this season and at Clemson before that.


I'm beginning to really hate what I always thought would be the end of college football as we knew it. NIL and maybe even worse, unlimited transfers. But I guess they go hand in hand.
There were posters on here, even mods, that suggested that this pay for play era will be good for Cal football. I was skeptical but cautiously optimistic because i heard our NIL funds were doing well. Now i think the truth rears itself. The unfortunately part is that this pay for play, transfer every year era is going to be TERRIBLE for Cal football.

We are going to be like the Oakland As or the Anaheim Angels, we are a farm league for the big guys. As soon as guys do well for a year or two (hunter), they will chase the big dollars at the biggest stage. Oregon got super lucky they got a great run under chip that sets them up for the future. Washington got Petersen and their fortunes are forever changed. "Traditions" can change and fortunes can change. It's an absolute shame that Tedford's era ended the way it did because we were trending up.

We need to hire that superstar coach to go on a run, otherwise, we have to be ok with the occasional 6-6 or 7-5 bowl every 3 years

I believe what some people have said is that the new system could conceivably be good for Cal Football (and Basketball) because we have alums who could bury a lot of B1G/SEC teams... if they chose to pony up. One reason (maybe) they haven't done that before is that it used to be against the rules. But now it's okay.


No, I think you aren't looking at the whole. Hunter, his only example this year, graduated. The other impact transfer we lost this year is KEO. The question is if we gain more than we lose. It is an open question, but our transfer class looks strong, and we have retained all our impact non-graduates save KEO. Graduate transfers aren't new.

Last year we lost Sturdivant, which was a major loss, but we gained more than we lost to the transfer portal, overall, IMO.

I think NIL has benefited Cal football so far.

I also think this notion we can find another Tedford foolish. You want to tank NIL and all other athletic funds, ignoring convincing all our donors to go along with this, to take a chance you can find a Tedford? Also, would Tedford even be a good coach at the P4 level today without NIL?
100% right. I hate to get all facty here, but Cal currently has the #11 transfer portal class according to On3. I would be shocked and disappointed if we didn't have a top 10 class once the dust settles next week. When was the last time Cal landed a top 10 recruiting class of any type?

Last year we had a top 20 class. Did that top 20 class get us all the results we wanted. Absolutely not. But it takes a couple of years to build a team and candidly we started from a low base with our pre-Nil recruiting. And 6-7 (and a bowl game) still beats 5-7 regardless.

So the NIL era has been TERRIBLE for Cal only if you believe going 63 years without a Rose Bowl was AWESOME. Personally I think we needed to upset the paradigm and it's hard to imagine a better paradigm shift for Cal itself than NIL.

Oh yeah, and Jaydn Ott is still here. Just saying.
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Sebastabear said:

wc22 said:

Big C said:

TedfordTheGreat said:

nwbear84 said:

BearSD said:

TedfordTheGreat said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

BearSD said:

Big C said:


Who is projected to be UW's quarterback next season?

(I guess I haven't wrapped my head around the fact that that will have absolutely nothing to do with us.)

Former Miss State QB Will Rogers

Quote:

Former Mississippi State quarterback Will Rogers, who ranks No. 2 in SEC history in passing yards, told ESPN on Friday that he's committed to transferring to Washington.

Rogers is on an official visit at the school this weekend, and he told ESPN he committed to the staff. He has one year of eligibility remaining and will be immediately eligible. Rogers threw for 12,315 yards over four seasons in Starkville.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39114260/ex-mississippi-state-qb-rogers-transfer-washington
Word is that Will Rogers never met a NIL deal he didn't like.
looks like USC, Oregon and Washington will all reload for 1 year deals on an ongoing basis every. Single. year.

I am over them and hope we don't have to see them/talk about them but that's the new business model


Florida State did this too, they are getting Uiagalelei who played QB at Oregon State this season and at Clemson before that.


I'm beginning to really hate what I always thought would be the end of college football as we knew it. NIL and maybe even worse, unlimited transfers. But I guess they go hand in hand.
There were posters on here, even mods, that suggested that this pay for play era will be good for Cal football. I was skeptical but cautiously optimistic because i heard our NIL funds were doing well. Now i think the truth rears itself. The unfortunately part is that this pay for play, transfer every year era is going to be TERRIBLE for Cal football.

We are going to be like the Oakland As or the Anaheim Angels, we are a farm league for the big guys. As soon as guys do well for a year or two (hunter), they will chase the big dollars at the biggest stage. Oregon got super lucky they got a great run under chip that sets them up for the future. Washington got Petersen and their fortunes are forever changed. "Traditions" can change and fortunes can change. It's an absolute shame that Tedford's era ended the way it did because we were trending up.

We need to hire that superstar coach to go on a run, otherwise, we have to be ok with the occasional 6-6 or 7-5 bowl every 3 years

I believe what some people have said is that the new system could conceivably be good for Cal Football (and Basketball) because we have alums who could bury a lot of B1G/SEC teams... if they chose to pony up. One reason (maybe) they haven't done that before is that it used to be against the rules. But now it's okay.


No, I think you aren't looking at the whole. Hunter, his only example this year, graduated. The other impact transfer we lost this year is KEO. The question is if we gain more than we lose. It is an open question, but our transfer class looks strong, and we have retained all our impact non-graduates save KEO. Graduate transfers aren't new.

Last year we lost Sturdivant, which was a major loss, but we gained more than we lost to the transfer portal, overall, IMO.

I think NIL has benefited Cal football so far.

I also think this notion we can find another Tedford foolish. You want to tank NIL and all other athletic funds, ignoring convincing all our donors to go along with this, to take a chance you can find a Tedford? Also, would Tedford even be a good coach at the P4 level today without NIL?
100% right. I hate to get all facty here, but Cal currently has the #11 transfer portal class according to On3. I would be shocked and disappointed if we didn't have a top 10 class once the dust settles next week. When was the last time Cal landed a top 10 recruiting class of any type?

Last year we had a top 20 class. Did that top 20 class get us all the results we wanted. Absolutely not. But it takes a couple of years to build a team and candidly we started from a low base with our pre-Nil recruiting. And 6-7 (and a bowl game) still beats 5-7 regardless.

So the NIL era has been TERRIBLE for Cal only if you believe going 63 years without a Rose Bowl was AWESOME. Personally I think we needed to upset the paradigm and it's hard to imagine a better paradigm shift for Cal itself than NIL.

Oh yeah, and Jaydn Ott is still here. Just saying.
That's great! The only problem with portal player rankings in the NIL era at Cal is that the coaching staff as it's currently constructed mitigates all of the money you give it to spend.

Wilcox alone makes it all a net negative at the end of day and that's too bad.
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75bear said:

bearister said:

During that last tracking shot down Bourbon Street, some gal "showed her tits" and the camera caught it. Oops!
I'm glad I wasn't the only one!


ESPN Apologizes For Showing Woman Flashing Boob During Sugar Bowl Broadcast


https://www.tmz.com/2024/01/02/espn-apologizes-woman-flashing-boob-sugar-bowl/

"Football fans were left stunned…."*

*75bear, if I may be so bold as to speak for both of us here, I think in place of the word "stunned," you and I would more properly insert the word "grateful."
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Send my credentials to the House of Detention
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STEAKKNIVES4LIFE said:

Sebastabear said:

wc22 said:

Big C said:

TedfordTheGreat said:

nwbear84 said:

BearSD said:

TedfordTheGreat said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

BearSD said:

Big C said:


Who is projected to be UW's quarterback next season?

(I guess I haven't wrapped my head around the fact that that will have absolutely nothing to do with us.)

Former Miss State QB Will Rogers

Quote:

Former Mississippi State quarterback Will Rogers, who ranks No. 2 in SEC history in passing yards, told ESPN on Friday that he's committed to transferring to Washington.

Rogers is on an official visit at the school this weekend, and he told ESPN he committed to the staff. He has one year of eligibility remaining and will be immediately eligible. Rogers threw for 12,315 yards over four seasons in Starkville.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39114260/ex-mississippi-state-qb-rogers-transfer-washington
Word is that Will Rogers never met a NIL deal he didn't like.
looks like USC, Oregon and Washington will all reload for 1 year deals on an ongoing basis every. Single. year.

I am over them and hope we don't have to see them/talk about them but that's the new business model


Florida State did this too, they are getting Uiagalelei who played QB at Oregon State this season and at Clemson before that.


I'm beginning to really hate what I always thought would be the end of college football as we knew it. NIL and maybe even worse, unlimited transfers. But I guess they go hand in hand.
There were posters on here, even mods, that suggested that this pay for play era will be good for Cal football. I was skeptical but cautiously optimistic because i heard our NIL funds were doing well. Now i think the truth rears itself. The unfortunately part is that this pay for play, transfer every year era is going to be TERRIBLE for Cal football.

We are going to be like the Oakland As or the Anaheim Angels, we are a farm league for the big guys. As soon as guys do well for a year or two (hunter), they will chase the big dollars at the biggest stage. Oregon got super lucky they got a great run under chip that sets them up for the future. Washington got Petersen and their fortunes are forever changed. "Traditions" can change and fortunes can change. It's an absolute shame that Tedford's era ended the way it did because we were trending up.

We need to hire that superstar coach to go on a run, otherwise, we have to be ok with the occasional 6-6 or 7-5 bowl every 3 years

I believe what some people have said is that the new system could conceivably be good for Cal Football (and Basketball) because we have alums who could bury a lot of B1G/SEC teams... if they chose to pony up. One reason (maybe) they haven't done that before is that it used to be against the rules. But now it's okay.


No, I think you aren't looking at the whole. Hunter, his only example this year, graduated. The other impact transfer we lost this year is KEO. The question is if we gain more than we lose. It is an open question, but our transfer class looks strong, and we have retained all our impact non-graduates save KEO. Graduate transfers aren't new.

Last year we lost Sturdivant, which was a major loss, but we gained more than we lost to the transfer portal, overall, IMO.

I think NIL has benefited Cal football so far.

I also think this notion we can find another Tedford foolish. You want to tank NIL and all other athletic funds, ignoring convincing all our donors to go along with this, to take a chance you can find a Tedford? Also, would Tedford even be a good coach at the P4 level today without NIL?
100% right. I hate to get all facty here, but Cal currently has the #11 transfer portal class according to On3. I would be shocked and disappointed if we didn't have a top 10 class once the dust settles next week. When was the last time Cal landed a top 10 recruiting class of any type?

Last year we had a top 20 class. Did that top 20 class get us all the results we wanted. Absolutely not. But it takes a couple of years to build a team and candidly we started from a low base with our pre-Nil recruiting. And 6-7 (and a bowl game) still beats 5-7 regardless.

So the NIL era has been TERRIBLE for Cal only if you believe going 63 years without a Rose Bowl was AWESOME. Personally I think we needed to upset the paradigm and it's hard to imagine a better paradigm shift for Cal itself than NIL.

Oh yeah, and Jaydn Ott is still here. Just saying.
That's great! The only problem with portal player rankings in the NIL era at Cal is that the coaching staff as it's currently constructed mitigates all of the money you give it to spend.

Wilcox alone makes it all a net negative at the end of day and that's too bad.
And since Wilcox and his $20m buyout aren't going anywhere in 2024 our only choice as fans is to create the best team imaginable using NIL or to watch the program crash and burn with the guy you feel is a terrible coach AND subpar players.

Personally given the looming next round of realignment and the crystal clear judgment of the market that our value to a power conference is virtually nil given our criminal under-investment in football specifically, I don't think we have the luxury of watching this crash and burn ( so that the administration will be forced to hire a new coach a la Mark Fox). We either do everything possible to win in football now or we give up on Cal sports forever.

Best recruiting classes possible is the card we can play and for the first time we are the ones who can help play it.
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Sebastabear said:

Oh yeah, and Jaydn Ott is still here. Just saying.

It's amazing that we are able to retain Ott, but he's very much the exception rather than the rule. I can't imagine many RBs of his caliber watching Blake Corum playing lights out on the national stage and not wanting a chance to do the same.

Also, where do you see the On3 rankings of 11? I'm seeing #22
https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/team-rankings/football/2024/
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DoubtfulBear said:

Sebastabear said:

Oh yeah, and Jaydn Ott is still here. Just saying.

It's amazing that we are able to retain Ott, but he's very much the exception rather than the rule. I can't imagine many RBs of his caliber watching Blake Corum playing lights out on the national stage and not wanting a chance to do the same.

Also, where do you see the On3 rankings of 11? I'm seeing #22
https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/team-rankings/football/2024/
I'm new to reviewing transfer portal class rankings, but if you read the On3 methodology on the page you linked, it is not a ranking of the class. It says:


Quote:

On3's Team Transfer Portal Index utilizes the On3 (P)erformance score to measure a team's production during the transfer process, compared relative against its roster and not a comparison against other schools. This proprietary algorithm determines if a school has improved its overall team talent, stayed the same, or declined in talent during the transfer window.
In other words, it is not a measure of how good your class was, but how it improved your team. So, if you sucked before, you can improve more with a lesser class and score higher on their ranking.

For instance, on their list, USC has 8 players coming in at an average of 82.88 and they rank 31st. We have 7 players coming in at an average of 78.57 and we rank 22nd. Oklahoma has 7 players averaging 80.71 and is ranked 42nd. West Virginia has 6 players coming in ranked on average at 72 and is 17th.

And hard to know under the circumstances whether something like Texas having 3 players ranked 91 is better.

But in any case, this ranking does not seem to indicate that a top 20 or top 10 class on the ranking means anything similar to a traditional top 10 or top 20 recruiting ranking.
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sycasey said:

Anyway, here's a good argument why that rule that automatically stops the clock for an injury is dumb: it actually encourages the defense to try to injure someone if they need extra time.


Yes. In that situation, the coach of the team on offense ought to be able to tell the officials, "Keep the clock running. If we can't get our injured player off the field and run a play before the play clock expires, then give us a delay of game penalty."
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sycasey said:

wc22 said:

sycasey said:

chalcidbear said:

Dam, Huskies play calling at the end of the game was atrocious. Instead of setting up a long drive, they have a 3 and out all passing by getting cute. And then when they could have taken a couple of kneel downs their man gets injured and time stops. Terrible clock management. But I'm glad they won in the end.
I don't blame them for trying running plays on the last drive. You have to at least make some attempt to get the first down, which will end the game right there. Having your player get injured on that exact play is simply bad luck.
That player was already playing hurt. They should have thrown screens at the least.

Then the argument is that they should have subbed in a healthier back, not that they should have kneeled.
And if the inexperienced back fumbles? I'd rather take my chances kneeling, punting, and making them go 80+ yards with 10 seconds and no timeouts left.
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concernedparent said:

sycasey said:

wc22 said:

sycasey said:

chalcidbear said:

Dam, Huskies play calling at the end of the game was atrocious. Instead of setting up a long drive, they have a 3 and out all passing by getting cute. And then when they could have taken a couple of kneel downs their man gets injured and time stops. Terrible clock management. But I'm glad they won in the end.
I don't blame them for trying running plays on the last drive. You have to at least make some attempt to get the first down, which will end the game right there. Having your player get injured on that exact play is simply bad luck.
That player was already playing hurt. They should have thrown screens at the least.

Then the argument is that they should have subbed in a healthier back, not that they should have kneeled.
And if the inexperienced back fumbles? I'd rather take my chances kneeling, punting, and making them go 80+ yards with 10 seconds and no timeouts left.

If they do that, then I guarantee everyone is knocking the coach for not even trying to get a first down. Imagine if this was Cal and Wilcox did that. You think he's getting a pass for it?

It was just bad luck (and a bad rule) that hurt Washington there.
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BearSD said:

sycasey said:

Anyway, here's a good argument why that rule that automatically stops the clock for an injury is dumb: it actually encourages the defense to try to injure someone if they need extra time.


Yes. In that situation, the coach of the team on offense ought to be able to tell the officials, "Keep the clock running. If we can't get our injured player off the field and run a play before the play clock expires, then give us a delay of game penalty."
Stop the clock for the injured player.

Start the clock at ready to play (when the play clock starts). I swear that's what happens in other circumstances and am shocked it isn't what happens for an injury timeout.
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MrGPAC said:

BearSD said:

sycasey said:

Anyway, here's a good argument why that rule that automatically stops the clock for an injury is dumb: it actually encourages the defense to try to injure someone if they need extra time.


Yes. In that situation, the coach of the team on offense ought to be able to tell the officials, "Keep the clock running. If we can't get our injured player off the field and run a play before the play clock expires, then give us a delay of game penalty."
Stop the clock for the injured player.

Start the clock at ready to play (when the play clock starts). I swear that's what happens in other circumstances and am shocked it isn't what happens for an injury timeout.


Yes if the offense has a timeout left, they should be able to waive it. By rule it was supposed to be an auto10 sec runoff but Texas was able to decline that. So weird to have rules that only support one side of any injury
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bearister said:

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bearister said:

During that last tracking shot down Bourbon Street, some gal "showed her tits" and the camera caught it. Oops!
I'm glad I wasn't the only one!


ESPN Apologizes For Showing Woman Flashing Boob During Sugar Bowl Broadcast


https://www.tmz.com/2024/01/02/espn-apologizes-woman-flashing-boob-sugar-bowl/

"Football fans were left stunned…."*

*75bear, if I may be so bold as to speak for both of us here, I think in place of the word "stunned," you and I would more properly insert the word "grateful."

bearister, it may have taken us a long time to bond, but I'm glad it's over boobs.
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MrGPAC said:

BearSD said:

sycasey said:

Anyway, here's a good argument why that rule that automatically stops the clock for an injury is dumb: it actually encourages the defense to try to injure someone if they need extra time.


Yes. In that situation, the coach of the team on offense ought to be able to tell the officials, "Keep the clock running. If we can't get our injured player off the field and run a play before the play clock expires, then give us a delay of game penalty."
Stop the clock for the injured player.

Start the clock at ready to play (when the play clock starts). I swear that's what happens in other circumstances and am shocked it isn't what happens for an injury timeout.
The losing team would start faking injuries to get timeouts in the final two minutes. There is a reason for the rule, but I'm sure it can be updated to address what happened last night. I don't believe Washington's injury should have caused a timeout.
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Many rules are lengthening and making some events ridiculous. Look at basketball where teams are allotted so many TOs per half. Then you throw in the TV TOs, and finally as you get to the end of game, the review of situations gives coaches and teams double the TOs as allotted. It is especilly noticeable when a game runs over and you want to see the first part of your game (the next one)
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Strykur said:

HoopDreams said:

in Texas's last possession they ran two terrible plays

UW got lucky they didn't just throw 4 passes into the end zone
The routes the commentators suggested were perfect, *** was Sark doing, although the last throw by Ewers was not good
I saw another commentator say ??!??!!!? on their first pass on a short out that was thrown to a player behind the line of scrimmage. At most, that play gains 2-3 yards and burns 8 seconds
 
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