If flashing gang signs meant you were a gangster, then half the guys I went to middle school with would be in jail now.

(Hint: They weren't gangsters, they were middle-class Asian kids.)

sycasey;842298010 said:

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If flashing gang signs meant you were a gangster, then half the guys I went to middle school with would be in jail now.

(Hint: They weren't gangsters, they were middle-class Asian kids.)

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This is the other point. Even if it was a "gang sign" in the ongoing repartee between wide receiver and defensive back, this is laughable as a justification for letting him go.

"We draw the line at gang signs, not killing dogs."

Our "gang sign"-flashing QB will be in a cop car tonight.

davetdds;842297992 said:

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Wow, this is getting way OT .Hey Vandalus, I'm from Oaktown also, ( 20 years your senior ) and we said that a long long time ago.. They still say " blood "?? Thought it was more " Sup bro ? " now. :bluecarrot:

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I grew up in San Diego. But I've heard blood used a lot here, but my suspicion is that it's not gang affiliated in Oakland.

I was on my phone earlier and could not watch the video of him with DeAngelo Hall. I don't now what that hand sign is that he's doing there. If the LAPD thinks its something unique to a particular neighborhood, that might be accurate. I know of only one specific Long Beach Crips gang sign, and that isn't it, but certainly there are probably hundreds in LA alone that go beyond just the standard crip sign, so it's plausible. But even if he did, I still believe he's not an active gang member.

If the NFL banned every player who grew up in a gang neighborhood who still uses those signs/language, then a lot of guys would be kicked out. Guys use it as a rep thing - they grew up in a gang area, and they take on that as a badge of honor or identification. They are repping their neighborhood, just like they would rep their city by saying their elementary or high school in MNF intros. It's the same deal. I'm betting that DeAngelo Hall has used gang lingo while playing ball and no one says he's a gang member. I know plenty of Cal players used gang lingo all the time, and I highly doubt any of them were jumped in active gang members.

okaydo;842297978 said:

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Or maybe Marshawn and Michael Silver are crips, too.







Or maybe DeSean is a massive Full House fan:

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Marshawn is throwing up funk town and ghost town. Marshawn is all the way with the ****.

grandmastapoop;842297985 said:

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Read that. Saw the gif. It honestly looks to me like he's simply pointing at something off camera. It's a pretty common hand gesture - and while it might be a gang sign as the officer claims, I'd say it's impossible to claim that DeSean is trying to throw up that gang sign in that gif.

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yeah, that was no gang sign. This would have been a gang sign:

LACalFan;842297991 said:

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The first link was from last Sept '13, so it wasn't about the Eagles trying to diminish his value. I'll have to defer to your knowledge on the rest. Good points.

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I didn't notice that initially. Just that it's blown up today with everyone saying he's a gang member, and some anonymous source within the organization stating that they were concerned about it, and comparing him to Aaron Hernandez.

Well they're saying all over the news now that his affiliations were well known - even on draft day. Which people are now saying was the reason he slipped so far down.

Espn is saying they released him because of work ethic and attitude. Plus that he was connected to gang members in LA with ties to two homicides since 2010. Eagles said eff u and let him go.

philly1121;842298042 said:

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Well they're saying all over the news now that his affiliations were well known - even on draft day. Which people are now saying was the reason he slipped so far down.

Espn is saying they released him because of work ethic and attitude. Plus that he was connected to gang members in LA with ties to two homicides since 2010. Eagles said eff u and let him go.

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I guess that means everyone at Florida/NFL who befriended Aaron Hernandez at one point will now be blacklisted from the NFL even if Hernandez gets acquitted? Better investigate all the veterans that were ever friends with OJ Simpson also. Quite frankly I suspect all of the remaining Eagles might have connections to dog fighting since they were friends and have been publicly seen with a convicted animal abuser even after he served jail time.

high calibear;842298030 said:

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yeah, that was no gang sign. This would have been a gang sign:

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This is a video of Sanchez hearing he was cut.

StillNoStanfurdium;842298046 said:

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I guess that means everyone at Florida/NFL who befriended Aaron Hernandez at one point will now be blacklisted from the NFL even if Hernandez gets acquitted? Better investigate all the veterans that were ever friends with OJ Simpson also. Quite frankly I suspect all of the remaining Eagles might have connections to dog fighting since they were friends and have been publicly seen with a convicted animal abuser even after he served jail time.

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hey bud - I saw it on tv. It MUST be true. Lol

high calibear;842298030 said:

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yeah, that was no gang sign. This would have been a gang sign:

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Stay cooool, boy.

high calibear;842298030 said:

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yeah, that was no gang sign. This would have been a gang sign:

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Reminds me of this:
https://screen.yahoo.com/cobras-panthers-000000740.html

StillNoStanfurdium;842298046 said:

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I guess that means everyone at Florida/NFL who befriended Aaron Hernandez at one point will now be blacklisted from the NFL even if Hernandez gets acquitted? Better investigate all the veterans that were ever friends with OJ Simpson also. Quite frankly I suspect all of the remaining Eagles might have connections to dog fighting since they were friends and have been publicly seen with a convicted animal abuser even after he served jail time.

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no I think it means that if people don't generally like working with you outside of a few hours each Sunday, they'll look for any excuse to fire you.

StillNoStanfurdium;842298046 said:

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I guess that means everyone at Florida/NFL who befriended Aaron Hernandez at one point will now be blacklisted from the NFL even if Hernandez gets acquitted? Better investigate all the veterans that were ever friends with OJ Simpson also. Quite frankly I suspect all of the remaining Eagles might have connections to dog fighting since they were friends and have been publicly seen with a convicted animal abuser even after he served jail time.

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Serena Williams did a full crip dance on the court after winning a gold medal. Did her sponsors release her? No.

This is just business as usual in Philly sports. It's an abrasive town. So we see this soap opera type drama in their sports franchises from time to time. Nothing new here.

YuSeeBerkeley;842297841 said:

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In other words, Chip Kelly can go to hell. He's a lying sack of sh*t. DeSean bought in and had a career year, and all he gets in return is a torn up contract. Instead of being straight up to DeSean, Chip lies to him and tells him not to worry about being traded. The Eagles are a classless organization, and they've got the perfect coach to run it.

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I'm not sure how much of this is on Kelly, after all he's got a long history of putting up with players with serious character issues at Oregon (not that DJ has those kind of character issues, we're talking about players with criminal records).

It's probably down to a lot of residual bitterness from the Eagles organization. They've acted like scumbags wrt DJ from day one, and now they go out of their way to smear him and spitefully cut him without trying to get anything in return. Desean has strong grounds for a character defamation lawsuit, although he will probably not pursue it at this point out of pragmatism, as it would antagonize some of his future employers in the NFL.

if thats a gang sign...

i've probably made at least 32 (admittedly awkward white) versions of that gang sign this week, cheering things such as underdogs in the tourney and the stock market.

whatever, you can't win with some people re: desean. someone's going to get another hell of a deal on a gamebreaker for next season. as a now former eagles fan (sorta, never really cared that much just was born 20 mi from philly), the giants idea seems kind of intriguing, despite the family issues it would cause

Cal88;842298098 said:

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I'm not sure how much of this is on Kelly, after all he's got a long history of putting up with players with serious character issues at Oregon (not that DJ has those kind of character issues, we're talking about players with criminal records).

It's probably down to a lot of residual bitterness from the Eagles organization. They've acted like scumbags wrt DJ from day one, and now they go out of their way to smear him and spitefully cut him without trying to get anything in return. Desean has strong grounds for a character defamation lawsuit, although he will probably not pursue it at this point out of pragmatism, as it would antagonize some of his future employers in the NFL.

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I don't know. It seemed like an obvious slight if you read DeSean's statement. He thanks the organization and the city then goes out of his way to thank his former coach. Earlier in the week he Instagramed a picture of himself with Chip Kelly, and reports indicated that Chip Kelly assured DeSean that he didn't have to worry. It sure seems as if DeSean blames Kelly, and if that's the case, I'm sure it's with good reason.

In addition to defamation, he might have a case for fraud. I mean, if the Eagles cut him after he comes off a career season with no legal or league policy issues, you have to wonder whether the Eagles ever intended to fulfill their end of the bargain once the contract provided no further guaranteed money.

#DJaxToOakland

Warren G is right!

http://www.tmz.com/2014/03/29/desean-jackson-released-philadelphia-eagles-warren-g-gangs-crips/

okaydo;842298135 said:

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Warren G is right!

http://www.tmz.com/2014/03/29/desean-jackson-released-philadelphia-eagles-warren-g-gangs-crips/

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It's kinda easy when you listen to the G'd up sound...

YuSeeBerkeley;842298117 said:

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I don't know. It seemed like an obvious slight if you read DeSean's statement. He thanks the organization and the city then goes out of his way to thank his former coach. Earlier in the week he Instagramed a picture of himself with Chip Kelly, and reports indicated that Chip Kelly assured DeSean that he didn't have to worry. It sure seems as if DeSean blames Kelly, and if that's the case, I'm sure it's with good reason.

In addition to defamation, he might have a case for fraud. I mean, if the Eagles cut him after he comes off a career season with no legal or league policy issues, you have to wonder whether the Eagles ever intended to fulfill their end of the bargain once the contract provided no further guaranteed money.

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This looks bad to me from the perspective that the team retained a self confessed white racist comment making wide receiver while releasing a black wide receiver, on circumstantial evidence, who by all measures out performed the white receiver. There was no process offered to DJ as was given to Cooper to fix the situation. The only difference here is his skin color.

CALiforniALUM;842298147 said:

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This looks bad to me from the perspective that the team retained a self confessed white racist comment making wide receiver while releasing a black wide receiver, on circumstantial evidence, who by all measures out performed the white receiver. There was no process offered to DJ as was given to Cooper to fix the situation. The only difference here is his skin color.

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Some people do have factors more important than performance that control their decisions.
Even the "Long Beach Poly" long ago was somewhat understandable.
He WAS from Long Beach and he Made it to the pros. And he IS performing.

CALiforniALUM;842298147 said:

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This looks bad to me from the perspective that the team retained a self confessed white racist comment making wide receiver while releasing a black wide receiver, on circumstantial evidence, who by all measures out performed the white receiver. There was no process offered to DJ as was given to Cooper to fix the situation. The only difference here is his skin color.

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and the size of their contracts.
Really, the race card? Come on.

82gradDLSdad;842298159 said:

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and the size of their contracts.
Really, the race card? Come on.

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They aren't saying that his contract was a factor. They're saying his affiliations and "attitude" are the reasons. That's the point.

The reason they're not being truthful and saying it's about the money is because:

1) Their fans would be going even more apeshiit.

2) Such an admission would reflect poorly on GM Howie Roseman's ability to manage his team's salary cap.

3) It highlights Chip Kelly's inability to handle star players.

So instead, they wrongfully disgrace DeSean to hide the above. Completely and utterly reprehensible. Especially when juxtaposed with other morally questionable decisions that the organization has made.

philly1121;842297851 said:

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YuSee - I'm curious as to why you think he should renegotiate his contract when he has 2-3 years left on his current one? That being said, I do think the report was irresponsible but I'm sure there's more to the story than his affiliations. Desean has an attitude problem. Whether one thinks that this is the reason for his being cut - no one knows.

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The eagles knew about both "murders" when they signed him to his 5 year extension....

SoCalBear323;842298161 said:

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They aren't saying that his contract was a factor. They're saying his affiliations and "attitude" are the reasons. That's the point.

The reason they're not being truthful and saying it's about the money is because:

1) Their fans would be going even more apeshiit.

2) Such an admission would reflect poorly on GM Howie Roseman's ability to manage his team's salary cap.

3) It highlights Chip Kelly's inability to handle star players.

So instead, they wrongfully disgrace DeSean to hide the above. Completely and utterly reprehensible. Especially when juxtaposed with other morally questionable decisions that the organization has made.

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I know why they put out the press release they did. I'm agreeing with you. It's not about skin color it's about money...mostly. Desean's talent plus personality is not worth the money to the Eagles.

82gradDLSdad;842298164 said:

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I know why they put out the press release they did. I'm agreeing with you. It's not about skin color it's about money...mostly. Desean's talent plus personality is not worth the money to the Eagles.

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Do you think they would smear him on his way out for having gangster affiliations if he was white? That's the difference.

ferCALgm2;842298170 said:

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Do you think they would smear him on his way out for having gangster affiliations if he was white? That's the difference.

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Yah, you're right. The Eagles are racist. We'll see for sure the next time they cut a white guy with gang affiliations who has a huge contract and a questionable attitude.

Let's not play the race card on this for God's sake. Whether it is money, or they had a bad feeling about him, they cut him. No race sh*t involved. How long did they have McNabb and Vick for Christ's sake. This board is over-reacting

davetdds;842298203 said:

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Let's not play the race card on this for God's sake. Whether it is money, or they had a bad feeling about him, they cut him. No race sh*t involved. How long did they have McNabb and Vick for Christ's sake. This board is over-reacting

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I don't think the Eagles cut DeSean BECAUSE of his race, however the smokescreen they are throwing up to justify their decision only works on a player who is black. So race is involved regardless of the underlying motive (which I agree is almost certainly money).

sycasey;842298218 said:

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I don't think the Eagles cut DeSean BECAUSE of his race, however the smokescreen they are throwing up to justify their decision only works on a player who is black. So race is involved regardless of the underlying motive (which I agree is almost certainly money).

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insightful comment

The more i read about the "gang ties" the more full crap they are and there is a reason the eagles have never won a Super Bowl

sycasey;842298218 said:

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I don't think the Eagles cut DeSean BECAUSE of his race, however the smokescreen they are throwing up to justify their decision only works on a player who is black. So race is involved regardless of the underlying motive (which I agree is almost certainly money).

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This is exactly what I mean.