oskirules;842770578 said:

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From another post:

Rick Neuheisel for head coach. Cal should pay better than the crap he's getting at ESPN or wherever he's at. No need to shell out big money here unless others are interested in him but I dont' hear much talk.
87-59 record coaching Colorado, UW, and UCLA.
5-3 bowl record with a Rose Bowl victory.
Three 10+ win seasons, he just couldn't win at UCLA for reasons I don't know.
I assume he has numerous connections for assistants

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Didn't we kinda laugh mercilessly at NeuWeasel when he was at the helm at UCLA? Like laughingstock material? That's my recollection at least.

Then there was Texas.

CGB2813;842770662 said:

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My shortlist now:
1. PJ Fleck (Western Michigan HC; former 49ers WR; current salary: $800,000)
2. PJ Fleck (see above)
3. PJ Fleck (see above)
4. Willie Taggart (South Florida HC; former Stanford asst.; current salary: $1.5 million)
5. Jim Leavitt (Colorado DC; former South Florida HC and 49ers asst.; current salary: $500,000)
6. Matt Rhule (Temple HC but no West Coast ties; however, his DC Phil Snow is a Cal alum and ex-asst.; current salary: $1.3 million)
7. Pat Narduzzi (Pitt HC; former Michigan St. DC but no West Coast ties; current salary: $2 million)
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Reach (highly unlikely) candidates from NFL, but since we're throwing out names:
8. Sean McDermott (Ron Rivera's DC in Carolina; current salary: ?)
9. Matt Patricia (Belichick's DC in New England; current salary: ?)

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I really don't see PJ Fleck coming when he could go to Purdue or Oregon. We might have a shot but it's a small one.
Willie Taggart is a realistic option, which we need right now.
Matt Rhule, recruiting wise would be impractical, he should be farther down the list.
Pat Narduzzi is not leaving Pitt, he will get a nice raise after having a decent year.

TandemBear;842770670 said:

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Didn't we kinda laugh mercilessly at NeuWeasel when he was at the helm at UCLA? Like laughingstock material? That's my recollection at least.

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Yes, we did. A lot. Especially for this:

SRBear;842770671 said:

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Then there was Texas.

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Still a better winning percentage than Dykes at Cal.

Strykur;842770648 said:

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It's funny until he goes to Oregon, then we will be in trouble.

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Which is why we need to hire him first. Can you imagine, with Petersen at uw and kiffen at Oregon, there will be zero recruits left for us in NorCal.

In all seriousness, I've made my preference for kiffen/tosh clear. (And no, getting sark is going too far for even me). Sure, he could bolt for the next good opportunity. But so what? That would mean he would have been successful here. And I'm somewhat comfortable leaving the program in the hands of tosh once kiffen leaves (Crazy as it sounds).

But I honestly don't think he leaves. I think this could be a place where kiffen settles down long term. He's already familiar with the Bay Area. He can recruit California like a mofo. And I think he's looking for something much more low key after stops in USC, Tennessee and Alabama. He will have relatively little pressure here.

If Brian Kelly wants out of Notre Dame, he would be an excellent choice but it's highly unlikely he would be in Cal's price range. He'd more likely end up at Oregon. Jim Leavitt also did a great job at USF but no thanks with his baggage.

Strykur;842770672 said:

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I really don't see PJ Fleck coming when he could go to Purdue or Oregon. We might have a shot but it's a small one.
Willie Taggart is a realistic option, which we need right now.
Matt Rhule, recruiting wise would be impractical, he should be farther down the list.
Pat Narduzzi is not leaving Pitt, he will get a nice raise after having a decent year.

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Oregon might be targeting McElwain instead. I hope it's not Fleck. The man is a winner and the type of guy who would leave this program in good shape even if he only stays a couple years.

If that domino falls and Purdue is the main competition, a good AD will at the very least get us in the door with Fleck.

Mike Williams can't blow this. If Dykes leaves, he's essentially getting a second chance after inexplicably bidding against himself to give Dykes a raise and an extension last year.

Me.

Dave Aranda.

oskirugger;842770659 said:

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I want the guy from North Dakota State.

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You mean Chris Klieman.

SoFlaBear;842770683 said:

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You mean Chris Klieman.

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His Dc comes too.

ducky23;842770676 said:

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Which is why we need to hire him first. Can you imagine, with Petersen at uw and kiffen at Oregon, there will be zero recruits left for us in NorCal.

In all seriousness, I've made my preference for kiffen/tosh clear. (And no, getting sark is going too far for even me). Sure, he could bolt for the next good opportunity. But so what? That would mean he would have been successful here. And I'm somewhat comfortable leaving the program in the hands of tosh once kiffen leaves (Crazy as it sounds).

But I honestly don't think he leaves. I think this could be a place where kiffen settles down long term. He's already familiar with the Bay Area. He can recruit California like a mofo. And I think he's looking for something much more low key after stops in USC, Tennessee and Alabama. He will have relatively little pressure here.

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Kiffin absolutely does not have the temperament or leadership to be a head coach. Find me one fan of a team that had him as a head coach that doesn't want to burn every shred of evidence that he was ever there. Hiring Kiffin because he rehabilitated at Alabama is like hiring Buddy Teevans because he was OC at Florida.

Question for anyone in the thread: What ostensibly is our price range? Same money we're paying Sonny? More? Less?

Tedford

SoFlaBear;842770687 said:

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Question for anyone in the thread: What ostensibly is our price range? Same money we're paying Sonny? More? Less?

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I don't know. I'm afraid far too low. I know many here did not like Sandy (I think she was good; certainly made mistakes). But is ANYONE remotely confident in Williams' ability to handle this correctly? I'm excited at the possibility of an injection of excitement here, but I'm also terrified of what he might do.

CGB2813;842770679 said:

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Oregon might be targeting McElwain instead. I hope it's not Fleck. The man is a winner and the type of guy who would leave this program in good shape even if he only stays a couple years.

If that domino falls and Purdue is the main competition, a good AD will at the very least get us in the door with Fleck.

Mike Williams can't blow this. If Dykes leaves, he's essentially getting a second chance after inexplicably bidding against himself to give Dykes a raise and an extension last year.

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I would obviously love fleck, but that seems like such a long shot (longer than getting Petersen who has roots here).

Fleck is to college football what Shaka smart was to basketball. Every fan base making a similar list of potential candidates has him on or near the top.

OaktownBear;842770686 said:

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Kiffin absolutely does not have the temperament or leadership to be a head coach. Find me one fan of a team that had him as a head coach that doesn't want to burn every shred of evidence that he was ever there. Hiring Kiffin because he rehabilitated at Alabama is like hiring Buddy Teevans because he was OC at Florida.

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Let's see. Teevens went 10-23 in his time as a PAC-12 coach. Kiffin was 28-15 while under major scholarship sanctions. Surely you're not comparing the two.

grandmastapoop;842770635 said:

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....the DC at UW.

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Do you mean Pete Kwiatkowski?

SoFlaBear;842770687 said:

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Question for anyone in the thread: What ostensibly is our price range? Same money we're paying Sonny? More? Less?

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Any chance we can pay more for the right coach, now that:

- Tedford's buy-out is off the books,
- we have the additional revenue from the UA deal,
- and potentially the additional buy-out on Dykes contract?

TheSouseFamily;842770691 said:

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Let's see. Teevens went 10-23 in his time as a PAC-12 coach. Kiffin was 28-15 while under major scholarship sanctions. Surely you're not comparing the two.

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Teevens led Dartmouth to a share of the Ivy League conference title for the first time in 20 years last year. Insignificant, but still.

grandmastapoop;842770689 said:

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I don't know. I'm afraid far too low. I know many here did not like Sandy (I think she was good; certainly made mistakes). But is ANYONE remotely confident in Williams' ability to handle this correctly? I'm excited at the possibility of an injection of excitement here, but I'm also terrified of what he might do.

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OT - I posted this up thread -- was the name you were thinking of Pete Kwiatkowski? (UW D- coord)

Back to what we were talking about:

This is an excerpt on an article on Morris' new deal:

Quote:

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According to two SMU sources, the school has been working on a contract extension for Morris for about three months to ensure that his package remained competitive in relation to the current market.

The extension is expected to be through 2022. The new deal will feature a raise for Morris and more funds -- about $1.5 million -- to be available at his discretion for the coaching staff and assurance of an indoor practice facility, the sources said.

Morris, 47, signed a six-year contract worth about $2 million annually in December 2014.

On Monday, a source said that Morris countered Baylor's offer of a five-year $24.5 million deal. Baylor did not approve his counter-offer.

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LINK

Now, I realize that this is football-crazy Texas in the article, and these are private schools. That said, Baylor and SMU are somewhat down the line in the Texas football school pecking order, and it looks like SMU will give Morris something on the order of $5M, $1M + in discretionary funds to spend on assistants, and indoor practice facilities. I don't see Cal going near $5M, much less the perqs. Maybe I'm wrong?

SoFlaBear;842770695 said:

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Now, I realize that this is football-crazy Texas in the article, and these are private schools. That said, Baylor and SMU are somewhat down the line in the Texas football school pecking order, and it looks like SMU will give Morris something on the order of $5M, $1M + in discretionary funds to spend on assistants, and indoor practice facilities. I don't see Cal going near $5M, much less the perqs. Maybe I'm wrong?

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If Ron Rivera tells us he'll come for $5 million, we'll pay the $5 million.

SoFlaBear;842770692 said:

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Do you mean Pete Kwiatkowski?

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Yes...is there something I don't know about him?

Strykur;842770696 said:

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If Ron Rivera tells us he'll come for $5 million, we'll pay the $5 million.

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I think that's a given. A lot of alumni -- wealthy and not-so wealthy -- would write checks and many season ticket packages would be sold.

also, why are we comparing how much SMU is paying to keep morris with what cal is willing to pay for a HC?

grandmastapoop;842770697 said:

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Yes...is there something I don't know about him?

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No - I just didn't know who it was and you couldn't come up with the name.

June Jones could do damage with this roster

beeasyed;842770700 said:

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also, why are we comparing how much SMU is paying to keep morris with what cal is willing to pay for a HC?

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It's a national business, so you figure if SMUs guy is looking at around $5 plus perqs, other coaches will point to that as a basis of comparison.

grandmastapoop;842770697 said:

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Yes...is there something I don't know about him?

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On paper Kwiatkowski would be my first choice out of the realistic candidates. His record as an assistant is impeccable

with a **** ton more athletes and departmental support, he did less...far less than he should have...including losing to Sonny twice.

SRBear;842770709 said:

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with a **** ton more athletes and departmental support, he did less...far less than he should have...including losing to Sonny twice.

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Why is everyone ignoring what he did at Louisville?

CaliforniaEternal;842770677 said:

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If Brian Kelly wants out of Notre Dame, he would be an excellent choice but it's highly unlikely he would be in Cal's price range. He'd more likely end up at Oregon. Jim Leavitt also did a great job at USF but no thanks with his baggage.

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Kelly is a disaster. He effed over Cincy, and constantly throws his players under the bus. Hate the way he berated them in the sideline. Not a good fit.

I'll add a name - Scott Frost. Former Oregon OC current head coach at Central Florida (salary of $1.7M). Keep Spavital and add Tosh. All young guns.

because he had played poor competition in general...2010 played zero ranked teams, 2011 one ranked team (WVU was ranked 24 and beat Louisville), 2012 played one ranked team... probably his best win, beating #4 Florida in a bowl game, 2013 once again played zero ranked teams.

BearGoggles;842770713 said:

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I'll add a name - Scott Frost. Former Oregon OC current head coach at Central Florida (salary of $1.7M). Keep Spavital and add Tosh. All young guns.

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You left out a key part of his resume.

I can stomach a traitorous turncoat cause he's our traitorous turncoat. But I'm not hiring a furd