TandemBear said:Yeah, I see your point. But we let the third world produce our consumer goods at a HUGE environmental and health cost for those countries. Bejing enjoys air worse than this on a regular basis, thanks most certainly to the production they do on our behalf. Millions of lives are cut short thanks to lax environmental laws and lower production costs to keep our consumer goods cheap. Have you protested this travesty?TheFiatLux said:I give you maybe too much credit. You can't be so dense as to think that a fun outcome like that justifies the means, and that all those pictures of people wearing masks, and ash falling, etc are good, either from a perception standpoint, or fpr what they actually, really indicate. I just know you can't be.TheSouseFamily said:bearsandgiants said:
Tonight was the greatest recruiting advertisement in the history of cal football. Also, I've never been more proud of my Bears, from top to bottom. Also, thank god they didn't call this game on a count of smoke.
Are you sure about that? I thought I heard earlier that the whole game was a huge PR disaster and that no parent would ever send their kid to Cal as a result.
Do you camp? Have you breathed the campfire smoke that most campers endure on a daily basis throughout the summer? Horrible air quality. But everyone wants the quintessential campfire experience, so it continues. Personally, I'd like to see campfires become a thing of the past.
And I sure hope you don't have a fireplace you use to burn wood. Man, that's some serious pollution. And a gas leaf blower or lawnmower? Or a "high-mileage" scooter that spits out all sorts of pollution? Whenever I ride or drive behind a scooter I can't imagine HOW these things can possibly be legal.
But then I drive and see diesel trucks spew ungodly amounts of smoke & soot. It's a game diesel truck drivers play - when they drive alongside cyclists, they floor it and smoke the CRAP out of them. (Search YouTube for "rolling coal" for some real laughs.) Don't you find it rather absurd that everyone with a fuel-efficient gas engine has to meet smog emission standards. But the yahoos in 8 liter diesel trucks get to pollute with absolute abandon? And diesel-sipping high mileage passenger vehicles were prohibited in California for years, but fuel-wasting, pollution hog trucks were A-OK! Now THAT's worth protesting.
I'm thinking playing this game isn't THAT big of a deal.
I have to say that Beijing does not suffer air pollution because of production done for the west. When I was there a little before the Olympics, there were still many homes where the only means of heating was burning bricks of coal in an unfiltered stove. Beijing's air pollution is because of China, not the US. China has been trying to clean up in recent years especially since the people have become keenly aware of the impact on their health.
