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LACalFan said:

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Wilcox doesn't seem like the type of person to brush this kind of thing off. I'd be shocked if he didn't take it to the appropriate people.

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We don't know these people as well as we imagine we do. Let's not pretend that we do.

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Sure, but as I understand it, it's Wilcox's job to go up the chain of command on something like this. She says she also emailed Knowlton. She also does not say when she emailed them. If Wilcox sent the complaint up the chain, he shouldn't be fired.

GMP said:

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Yogi Bear said:

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LACalFan said:

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Wilcox doesn't seem like the type of person to brush this kind of thing off. I'd be shocked if he didn't take it to the appropriate people.

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We don't know these people as well as we imagine we do. Let's not pretend that we do.

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Sure, but as I understand it, it's Wilcox's job to go up the chain of command on something like this. She says she also emailed Knowlton. She also does not say when she emailed them. If Wilcox sent the complaint up the chain, he shouldn't be fired.

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If (and I emphasize if) what she says is true, then we're faced with two scenarios:

A) Wilcox didn't respond, in which case he was negligent and the AD was negligent and should both be fired.

B) Wilcox did do what he was supposed to and the AD was negligent and should be fired.

That's really not good.

EDIT: Also if the coach is still employed and was never investigated even if Wilcox passed it up the chain, then that's still a major mark against Wilcox.

When did we hire Bobby Petrino? JFC! At this point we should have a permanent Sexual Harassment consultant on retainer. Bette yet have the Pac12 do it so it wont be influenced by the University. If there is a digital trail then I'm not sure I want any of these people at Cal. My 12 year old knows to use SnapChat and only if he has to.

Yeah I mean not to go too much farther down the path of hypotheticals, but defenders of JoPa said he went up the chain and therefore wasn't responsible for everything that happened subsequently, even though he obviously must have known what was going on. I don't subscribe to that theory.

packawana said:

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GMP said:

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Yogi Bear said:

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LACalFan said:

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Wilcox doesn't seem like the type of person to brush this kind of thing off. I'd be shocked if he didn't take it to the appropriate people.

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We don't know these people as well as we imagine we do. Let's not pretend that we do.

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Sure, but as I understand it, it's Wilcox's job to go up the chain of command on something like this. She says she also emailed Knowlton. She also does not say when she emailed them. If Wilcox sent the complaint up the chain, he shouldn't be fired.

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If (and I emphasize if) what she says is true, then we're faced with two scenarios:

A) Wilcox didn't respond, in which case he was negligent and the AD was negligent and should both be fired.

B) Wilcox did do what he was supposed to and the AD was negligent and should be fired.

That's really not good.

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Option B might be a blessing in disguise for MBB if it means we fire Wyking

GMP said:

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Yogi Bear said:

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LACalFan said:

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Wilcox doesn't seem like the type of person to brush this kind of thing off. I'd be shocked if he didn't take it to the appropriate people.

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We don't know these people as well as we imagine we do. Let's not pretend that we do.

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Sure, but as I understand it, it's Wilcox's job to go up the chain of command on something like this. She says she also emailed Knowlton. She also does not say when she emailed them. If Wilcox sent the complaint up the chain, he shouldn't be fired.

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+1.

And responding back to her as a coach would be verbotim. The real question (I hope the university responds) is whether it was forwarded and whether the EOC office (I believe that is right) started to take the appropriate investigatory actions.

If it was "boys will be boys" and as bad as the facebook post.....my goodness. Eeechhh!!!

(Protip - you can NOT tell some employees to dress one way and not another. Do these guys get ANY SH training?????)

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Yeah I mean not to go too much farther down the path of hypotheticals, but defenders of JoPa said he went up the chain and therefore wasn't responsible for everything that happened subsequently, even though he obviously must have known what was going on. I don't subscribe to that theory.

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I think there's a moral difference between knowing that children are being molested on an ongoing basis for years (JoePa) and telling your superior about a complaint of sexual harassment from one of your employees and allowing HR/whoever to do its job (hypothetically).

GMP said:

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Sure, but as I understand it, it's Wilcox's job to go up the chain of command on something like this. She says she also emailed Knowlton. She also does not say when she emailed them. If Wilcox sent the complaint up the chain, he shouldn't be fired.

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I am a manager, and if anyone in my company comes to me with a sexual harassment complaint, I will refer the complainer to the appropriate authority, and I will follow up with the appropriate authority to ensure the matter has been reported to them, and is being handled. To save my own butt, I will document all those conversations in email.

Also, note that the appropriate authority may not be up the chain of command, though it does not hurt to make one's boss aware of the situation. Especially in an organization the size of Cal, there is almost certainly an office that is charged with handling cases of alleged sexual harassment that is independent of the Athletics department.

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GMP said:

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Sure, but as I understand it, it's Wilcox's job to go up the chain of command on something like this. She says she also emailed Knowlton. She also does not say when she emailed them. If Wilcox sent the complaint up the chain, he shouldn't be fired.

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I am a manager, and if anyone in my company comes to me with a sexual harassment complaint, I will refer the complainer to the appropriate authority, and I will follow up with the appropriate authority to ensure the matter has been reported to them, and is being handled. To save my own butt, I will document all those conversations in email.

Also, note that the appropriate authority may not be up the chain of command, though it does not hurt to make one's boss aware of the situation. Especially in an organization the size of Cal, there is almost certainly an office that is charged with handling cases of alleged sexual harassment that is independent of the Athletics department.

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+1. This is standard stuff. It is covered in nearly every SH training course I have ever had to....which I BELIEVE is MANDATORY for higher education institutions receiving federal aid. You can actually usually always get the right answer on the quizes by answering "RUn, do not walk but run, to HR".

and again, #protip - do not ever ask a women to "cover up". SMH.

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If she emailed the coach and the AD and they did nothing I would assume we will be looking for new ones before the end of the month.

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Which might explain why the Wyking firing is taking so long.

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25To20 said:

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GMP said:

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Sure, but as I understand it, it's Wilcox's job to go up the chain of command on something like this. She says she also emailed Knowlton. She also does not say when she emailed them. If Wilcox sent the complaint up the chain, he shouldn't be fired.

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I am a manager, and if anyone in my company comes to me with a sexual harassment complaint, I will refer the complainer to the appropriate authority, and I will follow up with the appropriate authority to ensure the matter has been reported to them, and is being handled. To save my own butt, I will document all those conversations in email.

Also, note that the appropriate authority may not be up the chain of command, though it does not hurt to make one's boss aware of the situation. Especially in an organization the size of Cal, there is almost certainly an office that is charged with handling cases of alleged sexual harassment that is independent of the Athletics department.

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+1. This is standard stuff. It is covered in nearly every SH training course I have ever had to....which I BELIEVE is MANDATORY for higher education institutions receiving federal aid. You can actually usually always get the right answer on the quizes by answering "RUn, do not walk but run, to HR".

and again, #protip - do not ever ask a women to "cover up". SMH.

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Let's wait on the head shaking until we know if Wilcox really did that.

socaltownie said:

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25To20 said:

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GMP said:

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Sure, but as I understand it, it's Wilcox's job to go up the chain of command on something like this. She says she also emailed Knowlton. She also does not say when she emailed them. If Wilcox sent the complaint up the chain, he shouldn't be fired.

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I am a manager, and if anyone in my company comes to me with a sexual harassment complaint, I will refer the complainer to the appropriate authority, and I will follow up with the appropriate authority to ensure the matter has been reported to them, and is being handled. To save my own butt, I will document all those conversations in email.

Also, note that the appropriate authority may not be up the chain of command, though it does not hurt to make one's boss aware of the situation. Especially in an organization the size of Cal, there is almost certainly an office that is charged with handling cases of alleged sexual harassment that is independent of the Athletics department.

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+1. This is standard stuff. It is covered in nearly every SH training course I have ever had to....which I BELIEVE is MANDATORY for higher education institutions receiving federal aid. You can actually usually always get the right answer on the quizes by answering "RUn, do not walk but run, to HR".

and again, #protip - do not ever ask a women to "cover up". SMH.

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You would think that after urban Meyer and paterno, every coach in America would know how to cover their own asses by now

That's why I'd be fairly surprised if Wilcox didn't follow proper protocol. He may be many things, but he doesn't seem to be a complete dumbass

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Cal AD and the whole school needs to hire a team to cut this crap out at the start. Education and training for all staffers, no exception. Clear and specific examples of bad behavior and harassment. Signed letter that you took the training and updated training, and put in your employment contract. Why? This isn't the first time this has happened and the past few were high level, deans, etc.

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I would think they already have this training in place. After all, we are not too far removed from an assistant basketball coach and a team physician harassing a reporter and student athletes.

This is all over facebook and reddit. I expect a protest this week from the students demanding Wilcox to step down and it will probably be all over ESPN...maybe tonight.

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This is all over facebook and reddit. I expect a protest this week from the students demanding Wilcox to step down and it will probably be all over ESPN...maybe tonight.

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Well the problem is there is likely way more to this story than we know...Need jerk reactions are not going to help. Being on top of the story by the administration will....

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socaltownie said:

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25To20 said:

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GMP said:

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Sure, but as I understand it, it's Wilcox's job to go up the chain of command on something like this. She says she also emailed Knowlton. She also does not say when she emailed them. If Wilcox sent the complaint up the chain, he shouldn't be fired.

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I am a manager, and if anyone in my company comes to me with a sexual harassment complaint, I will refer the complainer to the appropriate authority, and I will follow up with the appropriate authority to ensure the matter has been reported to them, and is being handled. To save my own butt, I will document all those conversations in email.

Also, note that the appropriate authority may not be up the chain of command, though it does not hurt to make one's boss aware of the situation. Especially in an organization the size of Cal, there is almost certainly an office that is charged with handling cases of alleged sexual harassment that is independent of the Athletics department.

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+1. This is standard stuff. It is covered in nearly every SH training course I have ever had to....which I BELIEVE is MANDATORY for higher education institutions receiving federal aid. You can actually usually always get the right answer on the quizes by answering "RUn, do not walk but run, to HR".

and again, #protip - do not ever ask a women to "cover up". SMH.

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You would think that after urban Meyer and patino, every coach in America would know how to cover their own asses by now

That's why I'd be fairly surprised if Wilcox didn't follow proper protocol. He may be many things, but he doesn't seem to be a complete dumbass

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Wilcox is not...

socaltownie said:

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25To20 said:

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GMP said:

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Sure, but as I understand it, it's Wilcox's job to go up the chain of command on something like this. She says she also emailed Knowlton. She also does not say when she emailed them. If Wilcox sent the complaint up the chain, he shouldn't be fired.

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I am a manager, and if anyone in my company comes to me with a sexual harassment complaint, I will refer the complainer to the appropriate authority, and I will follow up with the appropriate authority to ensure the matter has been reported to them, and is being handled. To save my own butt, I will document all those conversations in email.

Also, note that the appropriate authority may not be up the chain of command, though it does not hurt to make one's boss aware of the situation. Especially in an organization the size of Cal, there is almost certainly an office that is charged with handling cases of alleged sexual harassment that is independent of the Athletics department.

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+1. This is standard stuff. It is covered in nearly every SH training course I have ever had to....which I BELIEVE is MANDATORY for higher education institutions receiving federal aid. You can actually usually always get the right answer on the quizes by answering "RUn, do not walk but run, to HR".

and again, #protip - do not ever ask a women to "cover up". SMH.

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Just echoing, I took SH training this week for my youth sports volunteer position. The right answer to almost every question is to report the situation to the right authority within the organization for non-emergencies and call the police for emergencies. I hope the people in charge did the right thing whether or not the allegations are true.

Sluggo

If Wilcox knew about this and his answer was for her to "cover up," then I'm afraid we are looking at a new coach.

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Cal AD and the whole school needs to hire a team to cut this crap out at the start. Education and training for all staffers, no exception. Clear and specific examples of bad behavior and harassment. Signed letter that you took the training and updated training, and put in your employment contract. Why? This isn't the first time this has happened and the past few were high level, deans, etc.

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I would think they already have this training in place. After all, we are not too far removed from an assistant basketball coach and a team physician harassing a reporter and student athletes.

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https://www.employers.org/blog/2018/10/04/default/new-law-requires-mandatory-sexual-harassment-training-for-all-employees/

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Something doesn't ring true. A harassing staff member invites her to the stadium at midnight and she goes? Invites her to his hotel room and she goes? This whole thing goes on seemingly day after day for how long, months(?), in today's climate, and isn't addressed? Something's "off" in this story. Probably 20 adults, plus at least a couple dozen "sensitized" players at practices and something like this would go on and on? Nowadays? In Berkeley?!?

However, if true, how horrible. It's 20-freaking-19, for goodness sake. If true, geez, we just can't win.

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I agree. Like the Jussie Smollett fiasco, and the initial reaction to the Covington kids, something about this definitely seems off. It needs to be investigated, obviously. But I'd start with wanting to see the phone records, texts, DMs that she alleges. It strikes me as suspect that someone who would go to such lengths to post this, name names and all, would not also post a screen capture of one of the texts or DMs in question.

I think hearing from other players who have interacted with her could add some perspective.

So we'll see.

LACalFan said:

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socaltownie said:

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25To20 said:

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GMP said:

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Sure, but as I understand it, it's Wilcox's job to go up the chain of command on something like this. She says she also emailed Knowlton. She also does not say when she emailed them. If Wilcox sent the complaint up the chain, he shouldn't be fired.

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I am a manager, and if anyone in my company comes to me with a sexual harassment complaint, I will refer the complainer to the appropriate authority, and I will follow up with the appropriate authority to ensure the matter has been reported to them, and is being handled. To save my own butt, I will document all those conversations in email.

Also, note that the appropriate authority may not be up the chain of command, though it does not hurt to make one's boss aware of the situation. Especially in an organization the size of Cal, there is almost certainly an office that is charged with handling cases of alleged sexual harassment that is independent of the Athletics department.

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+1. This is standard stuff. It is covered in nearly every SH training course I have ever had to....which I BELIEVE is MANDATORY for higher education institutions receiving federal aid. You can actually usually always get the right answer on the quizes by answering "RUn, do not walk but run, to HR".

and again, #protip - do not ever ask a women to "cover up". SMH.

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Let's wait on the head shaking until we know if Wilcox really did that.

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Unfortunately, unless the entire story is a complete fabrication, Wilcox appears to have been negligent. Setting aside the potentially criminal accusations of sexual harassment (pressuring for sex with threat of loss of job), If he is aware that the players, and/or especially his coaches are making it a "hostile" work environment for the young woman, even just leering at her during practice, then he needed to address that with training or at least a "talking to" both for his coaches and for his team. He is paid millions to oversee the program and be a mentor to our student athletes. And if he really tried to address it by telling her to cover up...not good.

I would assume that Title IX officers are involved.
https://ophd.berkeley.edu/about/staff
There was an investigation into Martin with the s hit the fan with Yanni by Title IX officer if I remember correctly. Cuonzo was deemed to have followed the appropriate protocol if I remember correctly.

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Big C said:

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Something doesn't ring true. A harassing staff member invites her to the stadium at midnight and she goes? Invites her to his hotel room and she goes? This whole thing goes on seemingly day after day for how long, months(?), in today's climate, and isn't addressed? Something's "off" in this story. Probably 20 adults, plus at least a couple dozen "sensitized" players at practices and something like this would go on and on? Nowadays? In Berkeley?!?

However, if true, how horrible. It's 20-freaking-19, for goodness sake. If true, geez, we just can't win.

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I agree. Like the Jussie Smollett fiasco, and the initial reaction to the Covington kids, something about this definitely seems off. It needs to be investigated, obviously. But I'd start with wanting to see the phone records, texts, DMs that she alleges. It strikes me as suspect that someone who would go to such lengths to post this, name names and all, would not also post a screen capture of one of the texts or DMs in question.

I think hearing from other players who have interacted with her could add some perspective.

So we'll see.

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I'd like to hear from the other staff members rather than just the players. It's wholly possible that there could have been a hostile work environment for staffers but not the players. In that case, something needs to be done about the culture.

TheFiatLux said:

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Big C said:

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Something doesn't ring true. A harassing staff member invites her to the stadium at midnight and she goes? Invites her to his hotel room and she goes? This whole thing goes on seemingly day after day for how long, months(?), in today's climate, and isn't addressed? Something's "off" in this story. Probably 20 adults, plus at least a couple dozen "sensitized" players at practices and something like this would go on and on? Nowadays? In Berkeley?!?

However, if true, how horrible. It's 20-freaking-19, for goodness sake. If true, geez, we just can't win.

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I agree. Like the Jussie Smollett fiasco, and the initial reaction to the Covington kids, something about this definitely seems off. It needs to be investigated, obviously. But I'd start with wanting to see the phone records, texts, DMs that she alleges. It strikes me as suspect that someone who would go to such lengths to post this, name names and all, would not also post a screen capture of one of the texts or DMs in question.

I think hearing from other players who have interacted with her could add some perspective.

So we'll see.

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Agreed, why post this on Facebook?

No way that Wilcox or Knowlton ignore a report about this. Both are very smart, responsible and careful people.

Wait and let the facts out-half her post is supposition and innuendo. The other half is really bad-get people fired-stuff if true.

No way Knowlton ignored this if told about it.

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I would assume that Title IX officers are involved.
https://ophd.berkeley.edu/about/staff
There was an investigation into Martin with the s hit the fan with Yanni by Title IX officer if I remember correctly. Cuonzo was deemed to have followed the appropriate protocol if I remember correctly.

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Yes, but it took MONTHS for him to be cleared, during which time it really started occurring to him to find work somewhere else (probably for the best, in his case).

"This coach was so persistent in his text messages, and one night invited me over to the stadium offices at midnight..."*

"I get a text from the coach. "Meet me in my room".

"If I responded please leave me alone to a DM, I was answered back with "Im going to treat you like the hoe that you are".

In the old days these were blown up on poster boards. Today they are displayed in a PowerPoint.



*I presume an inference can be drawn from the evidence that there are solid reasons this crew pursued football as a career rather than rocket science.

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LACalFan said:

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socaltownie said:

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25To20 said:

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GMP said:

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Sure, but as I understand it, it's Wilcox's job to go up the chain of command on something like this. She says she also emailed Knowlton. She also does not say when she emailed them. If Wilcox sent the complaint up the chain, he shouldn't be fired.

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I am a manager, and if anyone in my company comes to me with a sexual harassment complaint, I will refer the complainer to the appropriate authority, and I will follow up with the appropriate authority to ensure the matter has been reported to them, and is being handled. To save my own butt, I will document all those conversations in email.

Also, note that the appropriate authority may not be up the chain of command, though it does not hurt to make one's boss aware of the situation. Especially in an organization the size of Cal, there is almost certainly an office that is charged with handling cases of alleged sexual harassment that is independent of the Athletics department.

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+1. This is standard stuff. It is covered in nearly every SH training course I have ever had to....which I BELIEVE is MANDATORY for higher education institutions receiving federal aid. You can actually usually always get the right answer on the quizes by answering "RUn, do not walk but run, to HR".

and again, #protip - do not ever ask a women to "cover up". SMH.

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Let's wait on the head shaking until we know if Wilcox really did that.

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Unfortunately, unless the entire story is a complete fabrication, Wilcox appears to have been negligent. Setting aside the potentially criminal accusations of sexual harassment (pressuring for sex with threat of loss of job), If he is aware that the players, and/or especially his coaches are making it a "hostile" work environment for the young woman, even just leering at her during practice, then he needed to address that with training or at least a "talking to" both for his coaches and for his team. He is paid millions to oversee the program and be a mentor to our student athletes. And if he really tried to address it by telling her to cover up...not good.

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I have been involved in two investigations of potential harassment by co-workers during my career. Regardless of the eventual outcome the person lodging the complaint never felt that the process moved fast enough nor that there was enough transparency.

The person accused also deserves due process. The accuser does not get to sit in every interview.

After terminating the accused employee, the accuser wanted to know why we did not act the day the complaint was filed, they wanted to know why it took so long.

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Wilcox is not the kind of guy that would not respond to these types of allegations. I'm sure there is/will be an investigation. Let's not jump to conclusions. Trying a case on a blog or in the media always results in an erroneous outcome...always. Slow your roll.

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Investigations take time, but this one needs to be either proven or dispelled as soon as possible. There were two attempted rapes in these accusations, so notify the police and start from there. Any corroborating evidence (i.e, text message records) or lack thereof should be immediately apparent.

Thanks Michael.
Critically evaluating her words leaves one with questions and doubts. The Cavanaugh accusers should be a reminder that motivations sometimes lead to malicious misinformation and accusations.
Beware the vindictive who feel cheated.

Paige Elizabeth Cornelius is not currently listed as a UC student. Has anybody confirmed she is or was an actual student?

My first thought when I saw this was Stanfurd hoax. If it's real, this is absolutely horrendous.

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Paige Elizabeth Cornelius is not currently listed as a UC student. Has anybody confirmed she is or was an actual student?

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All you have to do is Google her name to see that she at least has a real connection to Cal:

Although I don't see anything that suggests she was a hydrotech or sports medicine intern specifically only seeing a LinkedIn profile mentioning being a Cal Athletics marketing intern.

And for what it's worth, I do lend her additional credence by naming Jordan Duncan and putting a concrete accusation forward. I do wonder what is stopping her from naming the offending coaches here though.

There are plenty of people who think most of the Kavanaugh accusers were telling the truth. I will grant you that one seemed incredibly sketchy and that it tainted the process but I think your takeaway message is less than universally agreed upon. I think the reminder from Kavanaugh is that an absence of incontrovertible physical evidence makes it easier for those in power to retain their power.

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Thanks Michael.
Critically evaluating her words leaves one with questions and doubts. The Cavanaugh accusers should be a reminder that motivations sometimes lead to malicious misinformation and accusations.
Beware the vindictive who feel cheated.

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This is terrible if some of the things she wrote are true. I have only seen this on her Facebook page and on BearInsider. Has anyone reported this to any officials at Cal or other authorities?