Cal vs. Washington Game Thread

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LACalFan said:

Time to savor this sip by sip

Thanks.

GO BEARS!!!!
If you believe in forever
Then life is just a one-night stand
If there's a rock and roll heaven
Well you know they've got a hell of a band
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All within a 24 hour period...

+ The stupid Vegas Raiders waive their best player and I don't feel sorry for him.
+ Furd gets whupped 45-20.
+ Cal hucks the Fuskies in Seattle on September 7th/8th.
+ U$C desperately locks in Helton with a new 10-year contract *


* Will happen later this morning. I believe!
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All I know at this point is that I'm going to be in the stands early next Saturday to yell and cheer for the team during warmups and every chance I get thereafter. This is awesome. Nothing is impossible.
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remb8888 said:

Don't understand the offensive play-call to center the ball and then subsequently try for the TD but I'll take it. (Why not call a running play towards the center if u want it there if ur gonna call a play right after to go for the TD)
I was puzzled but this seems to make sense:



Wilcox is playing chess; the rest of us are playing tiddly winks.
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Key to the win - no turnovers.
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remb8888 said:

Don't understand the offensive play-call to center the ball and then subsequently try for the TD but I'll take it. (Why not call a running play towards the center if u want it there if ur gonna call a play right after to go for the TD)


Nobody understands it... But at this point I am too jacked up to even care
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orindabear74 said:

Maybe Elija Jackson will change his mind and commit to Cal after seeing this win.
Shaq Thompson too!
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OneKeg
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GO BEARS!

I was not on this thread during the game, but I have to say, it has been pretty sweet re-living it a third time (after re-watching the end a second time) through all your comments.

Thank you everyone.

THE BEAR WILL NOT QUIT. THE BEAR WILL NOT DIE.

Now I won't be able to sleep for a while... don't care. So happy.
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TouchedTheAxeIn82 said:

I missed the entire 3rd Qtr because I was on the road. I was sitting in my car listening to the game, slack-jawed at what I was hearing. I'll watch the recording tomorrow to see what I missed. I'm stunned at what the offense was able to do in the 2nd half.
Um, if your "recording" is like mine, you'll have missed almost the entire game. Mine (Dish) shut off at around the game's expected end time, which was probably before it even resumed. So you will want to search your guide for a replay and record it. I'd hate for you to miss this gem. (BTW, I have to do same. In the throes of the game, I didn't even think to hit record to prolong the recording.) That said, FS1 doesn't show a replay in my guide currently. Will they replay it, or will Pac12 Network have rights to the replay? Either way, this is the most replay-worthy game of the weekend!

Important edit: I just went through my recording, and it ends with 11:56 remaining in the third. Thanks to the stupid guide protocol, the worthwhile part of the game isn't recorded. You'd think they'd address this issue...

Edit #3: FS2 is replaying the game on Tuesday, 9/10, at 11:30am PDT. You may have to override the "auto-skip" function if, like me, you already have tonight's recording on your DVR.
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Bear19 said:

TouchedTheAxeIn82 said:

I missed the entire 3rd Qtr because I was on the road. I was sitting in my car listening to the game, slack-jawed at what I was hearing. I'll watch the recording tomorrow to see what I missed. I'm stunned at what the offense was able to do in the 2nd half.
I was stunned watching it on TV. Looks like Garbers starting to grow into a decent QB.


Garbers needs to call his little brother tomorrow and tell him to kiss his b-hole.

I can't believe I stayed up for this... I need to be awake in 3 hours and yet so worth it.

Better than 2 chicks at the same time... Go Bears
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https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/62583/official-washington-cal-game-thread/p85

Stirring the beehive while it's on fire. Nice NYC!
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burritos said:

https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/62583/official-washington-cal-game-thread/p85

Stirring the beehive while it's on fire. Nice NYC!
THE example of the entitled fan base. "Oh waaaah, we aren't undefeated for the tenth season in a row! "
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sycasey said:

LACalFan said:

And that was a TD by Brown, but whatever.
Probably was. Just didn't have the camera angle to prove it.
How can they not have a camera angle from the other side of the field that shows
the goal line???
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https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/62583/official-washington-cal-game-thread/p80

husky board saying they should have just let us score at the end to save time. maybe that 2nd down center kneel down call was brilliant after all.
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oskirules said:

https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/62583/official-washington-cal-game-thread/p80

husky board saying they should have just let us score at the end to save time. maybe that 2nd down center kneel down call was brilliant after all.

I just disagree. First of all, if that was the logic, why did we run a regular running play on first down? Cal tried to score on that one.

More generally, I'd rather have an 7-8 point lead with around 35 seconds left (and UW with a time out or two) then leave it to one play for your kicker. Statistically, the win probabilities are probably the same, but if you score the TD, you've taken away the defensive option of a bad kick, bad snap, or blocked kick. Just ask WSU about that.

If cal scores a td, most likely Cal ends up with an 8 point lead and UW needs a miracle to tie the game.

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A gutsy team win! Hope all the fans are yelling their lungs out for these guys at the North Texas game next week. They deserve it.
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I've been a member for since 2001 I think. I'm sick as a dog but stayed up to watch that pile of crap.
I get too worked up over husky football.
Time for me to get a life Somewhere over the past several years my expectations and passion for husky football got out of whack and I've found myself not really enjoying it, which is sad with how successful the team has been. Not sure what happened Maybe my teenagers and life in general has done it to me
I'll still be a fan but it's time to quit wasting money and energy on something I don't really enjoy like I once did

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Haha, love it. I get too worked up as well. I'm starting to calm down now. It is just a game afterall. Still...Cal. CAL!!!

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Offensively, wow. No rhythm at all. Defensively, sorry Jimmy. Justin outfoxed and simply outcoached you tonight.



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No fire. Call wanted it more. When are the coaches going to get our guys to want it more?!


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We should have beaten Cal. They are inferior. They were last year too. We shot ourselves in the foot too many times


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BearGoggles said:

oskirules said:

https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/62583/official-washington-cal-game-thread/p80

husky board saying they should have just let us score at the end to save time. maybe that 2nd down center kneel down call was brilliant after all.

I just disagree. First of all, if that was the logic, why did we run a regular running play on first down? Cal tried to score on that one.

More generally, I'd rather have an 7-8 point lead with around 35 seconds left (and UW with a time out or two) then leave it to one play for your kicker. Statistically, the win probabilities are probably the same, but if you score the TD, you've taken away the defensive option of a bad kick, bad snap, or blocked kick. Just ask WSU about that.

If cal scores a td, most likely Cal ends up with an 8 point lead and UW needs a miracle to tie the game.



Strange post. Cal couldn't have had an 7 OR 8 point lead - and you said this twice, so I know it wasn't a typo. We were down 2. The best we could have come away with was a 6 point lead, if we went for 2 (which we would because up 4, the extra point to make it 5 doesn't help you).

Second of all, yes, we tried to score on first down. We WANTED to score and we tried. But when we failed on first, we outcoached UW by tricking them into using all of their timeouts they would have saved for a final drive. Brilliant coaching by Wilcox (and as I said above, I didn't get it at first either).
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Cal88 said:


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No fire. Call wanted it more. When are the coaches going to get our guys to want it more?!



This one is true. I gotta say it's a weird UW team. I'm not sure what their identity is, and I saw very little fire fromt them in the second half.
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TandemBear said:

TouchedTheAxeIn82 said:

I missed the entire 3rd Qtr because I was on the road. I was sitting in my car listening to the game, slack-jawed at what I was hearing. I'll watch the recording tomorrow to see what I missed. I'm stunned at what the offense was able to do in the 2nd half.
Um, if your "recording" is like mine, you'll have missed almost the entire game. Mine (Dish) shut off at around the game's expected end time, which was probably before it even resumed. So you will want to search your guide for a replay and record it. I'd hate for you to miss this gem. (BTW, I have to do same. In the throes of the game, I didn't even think to hit record to prolong the recording.) That said, FS1 doesn't show a replay in my guide currently. Will they replay it, or will Pac12 Network have rights to the replay? Either way, this is the most replay-worthy game of the weekend!

Important edit: I just went through my recording, and it ends with 11:56 remaining in the third. Thanks to the stupid guide protocol, the worthwhile part of the game isn't recorded. You'd think they'd address this issue...

Edit #3: FS2 is replaying the game on Tuesday, 9/10, at 11:30am PDT. You may have to override the "auto-skip" function if, like me, you already have tonight's recording on your DVR.

This is the beauty of YouTube TV:

1. You just click on a link and it automatically records all Cal football games and you can easily access each game on a single page. (Every Cal football game that isn't on Pac-12 Network, that is -- you can also set it to automatically record all Pac-12 games and/or all college football games.)

2. YouTube TV automatically records football games until the bitter end. Actually, not the bitter end. See the screenshot below. The game ends around the 5 hour and 44 minute mark and it still recorded until a few minutes past 6 hours.

3. It stores game(s) for 9 months on the free cloud DVR. (I have a few more weeks until the Cheez-It Bowl is deleted.)




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GMP said:

BearGoggles said:

oskirules said:

https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/62583/official-washington-cal-game-thread/p80

husky board saying they should have just let us score at the end to save time. maybe that 2nd down center kneel down call was brilliant after all.

I just disagree. First of all, if that was the logic, why did we run a regular running play on first down? Cal tried to score on that one.

More generally, I'd rather have an 7-8 point lead with around 35 seconds left (and UW with a time out or two) then leave it to one play for your kicker. Statistically, the win probabilities are probably the same, but if you score the TD, you've taken away the defensive option of a bad kick, bad snap, or blocked kick. Just ask WSU about that.

If cal scores a td, most likely Cal ends up with an 8 point lead and UW needs a miracle to tie the game.



Strange post. Cal couldn't have had an 7 OR 8 point lead - and you said this twice, so I know it wasn't a typo. We were down 2. The best we could have come away with was a 6 point lead, if we went for 2 (which we would because up 4, the extra point to make it 5 doesn't help you).

Second of all, yes, we tried to score on first down. We WANTED to score and we tried. But when we failed on first, we outcoached UW by tricking them into using all of their timeouts they would have saved for a final drive. Brilliant coaching by Wilcox (and as I said above, I didn't get it at first either).
I'm not convinced that we actually tried to score on first down. I haven't watched it back dozens of time as I'm sure others will, but to me, it looked like the focus of the first down play was to start the process of getting the ball centered. It just didn't look like a serious attempt to score. And obviously they didn't try to score on second down.

For me, while I have no idea what the statistics would say in this situation, I hated the idea of giving them the ball back with 3 timeouts, where a touchdown would beat us. So if Wilcox was intentionally not scoring the first two plays to run clock and force Washington to burn its timeouts, it may have been a great plan. Sure, many things can go wrong on a last second field goal, but this one was the functional equivalent of an extra point. Again, I don't know the stats, but our make percentage on extra points is probably really, really high. And, I suspect, it just may be higher than our odds if we score quick and give them the ball with 3 timeouts.

The best news is that it worked out just perfectly - regardless of the actual plan. Go Bears!
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GMP said:

BearGoggles said:

oskirules said:

https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/62583/official-washington-cal-game-thread/p80

husky board saying they should have just let us score at the end to save time. maybe that 2nd down center kneel down call was brilliant after all.

I just disagree. First of all, if that was the logic, why did we run a regular running play on first down? Cal tried to score on that one.

More generally, I'd rather have an 7-8 point lead with around 35 seconds left (and UW with a time out or two) then leave it to one play for your kicker. Statistically, the win probabilities are probably the same, but if you score the TD, you've taken away the defensive option of a bad kick, bad snap, or blocked kick. Just ask WSU about that.

If cal scores a td, most likely Cal ends up with an 8 point lead and UW needs a miracle to tie the game.



Strange post. Cal couldn't have had an 7 OR 8 point lead - and you said this twice, so I know it wasn't a typo. We were down 2. The best we could have come away with was a 6 point lead, if we went for 2 (which we would because up 4, the extra point to make it 5 doesn't help you).

Second of all, yes, we tried to score on first down. We WANTED to score and we tried. But when we failed on first, we outcoached UW by tricking them into using all of their timeouts they would have saved for a final drive. Brilliant coaching by Wilcox (and as I said above, I didn't get it at first either).
It is late. you're correct. Cal would have had a 4 or 6 point lead (they go for two for sure). I'd still rather have that than rely on a kicker. - just my opinion.

I guess my question is if you want to score on first down, then why don't you want to score on second? Scoring on first down would have given UW even more time outs (at least one more then taking a knee).

Also, on second down we lost a yard which, as it turns out, was important for the next play. I think what JW did was understandable - if you want to rely on a kicker.


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BearGoggles said:

GMP said:

BearGoggles said:

oskirules said:

https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/62583/official-washington-cal-game-thread/p80

husky board saying they should have just let us score at the end to save time. maybe that 2nd down center kneel down call was brilliant after all.

I just disagree. First of all, if that was the logic, why did we run a regular running play on first down? Cal tried to score on that one.

More generally, I'd rather have an 7-8 point lead with around 35 seconds left (and UW with a time out or two) then leave it to one play for your kicker. Statistically, the win probabilities are probably the same, but if you score the TD, you've taken away the defensive option of a bad kick, bad snap, or blocked kick. Just ask WSU about that.

If cal scores a td, most likely Cal ends up with an 8 point lead and UW needs a miracle to tie the game.



Strange post. Cal couldn't have had an 7 OR 8 point lead - and you said this twice, so I know it wasn't a typo. We were down 2. The best we could have come away with was a 6 point lead, if we went for 2 (which we would because up 4, the extra point to make it 5 doesn't help you).

Second of all, yes, we tried to score on first down. We WANTED to score and we tried. But when we failed on first, we outcoached UW by tricking them into using all of their timeouts they would have saved for a final drive. Brilliant coaching by Wilcox (and as I said above, I didn't get it at first either).
It is late. you're correct. Cal would have had a 4 or 6 point lead (they go for two for sure). I'd still rather have that than rely on a kicker. - just my opinion.

I guess my question is if you want to score on first down, then why don't you want to score on second? Scoring on first down would have given UW even more time outs (at least one more then taking a knee).

Also, on second down we lost a yard which, as it turns out, was important for the next play. I think what JW did was understandable - if you want to rely on a kicker.



It's a fair question. See zorbarick's post above. I had wondered this myself, but wasn't confident enough in the thought to type it out: But I did think Brown ran a little less than 100% on first down. Maybe it's almost a rope-a-dope. Let them stop us on first, they burn a timeout. On second, make them think we are centering for a field goal, they burn a second timeout. Try to punch it in to avoid a missed kick or bad snap on third, and if you don't get in they use their last timeout.



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BearGoggles said:

GMP said:

BearGoggles said:

oskirules said:

https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/62583/official-washington-cal-game-thread/p80

husky board saying they should have just let us score at the end to save time. maybe that 2nd down center kneel down call was brilliant after all.

I just disagree. First of all, if that was the logic, why did we run a regular running play on first down? Cal tried to score on that one.

More generally, I'd rather have an 7-8 point lead with around 35 seconds left (and UW with a time out or two) then leave it to one play for your kicker. Statistically, the win probabilities are probably the same, but if you score the TD, you've taken away the defensive option of a bad kick, bad snap, or blocked kick. Just ask WSU about that.

If cal scores a td, most likely Cal ends up with an 8 point lead and UW needs a miracle to tie the game.



Strange post. Cal couldn't have had an 7 OR 8 point lead - and you said this twice, so I know it wasn't a typo. We were down 2. The best we could have come away with was a 6 point lead, if we went for 2 (which we would because up 4, the extra point to make it 5 doesn't help you).

Second of all, yes, we tried to score on first down. We WANTED to score and we tried. But when we failed on first, we outcoached UW by tricking them into using all of their timeouts they would have saved for a final drive. Brilliant coaching by Wilcox (and as I said above, I didn't get it at first either).
It is late. you're correct. Cal would have had a 4 or 6 point lead (they go for two for sure). I'd still rather have that than rely on a kicker. - just my opinion.

I guess my question is if you want to score on first down, then why don't you want to score on second? Scoring on first down would have given UW even more time outs (at least one more then taking a knee).

Also, on second down we lost a yard which, as it turns out, was important for the next play. I think what JW did was understandable - if you want to rely on a kicker.



a 2 point conversion would have been meaningless.

Cal was down 17-19.

The TD is 6 points which would make it 23-19 (4 points) UW can only win with a TD
a 2 point conversion does make it 25-19 (6 points) UW ties with a TD, but can go ahead with a conversion.

The extra point is mostly an after thought if teams are kicking. The moment/emotion shift you might create by failing the 2 point conversion pretty much makes going for 2 an incredibly BAD idea. Take the one point to make the gap a little bigger and trust the defense.
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mvargus said:

BearGoggles said:

GMP said:

BearGoggles said:

oskirules said:

https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/62583/official-washington-cal-game-thread/p80

husky board saying they should have just let us score at the end to save time. maybe that 2nd down center kneel down call was brilliant after all.

I just disagree. First of all, if that was the logic, why did we run a regular running play on first down? Cal tried to score on that one.

More generally, I'd rather have an 7-8 point lead with around 35 seconds left (and UW with a time out or two) then leave it to one play for your kicker. Statistically, the win probabilities are probably the same, but if you score the TD, you've taken away the defensive option of a bad kick, bad snap, or blocked kick. Just ask WSU about that.

If cal scores a td, most likely Cal ends up with an 8 point lead and UW needs a miracle to tie the game.



Strange post. Cal couldn't have had an 7 OR 8 point lead - and you said this twice, so I know it wasn't a typo. We were down 2. The best we could have come away with was a 6 point lead, if we went for 2 (which we would because up 4, the extra point to make it 5 doesn't help you).

Second of all, yes, we tried to score on first down. We WANTED to score and we tried. But when we failed on first, we outcoached UW by tricking them into using all of their timeouts they would have saved for a final drive. Brilliant coaching by Wilcox (and as I said above, I didn't get it at first either).
It is late. you're correct. Cal would have had a 4 or 6 point lead (they go for two for sure). I'd still rather have that than rely on a kicker. - just my opinion.

I guess my question is if you want to score on first down, then why don't you want to score on second? Scoring on first down would have given UW even more time outs (at least one more then taking a knee).

Also, on second down we lost a yard which, as it turns out, was important for the next play. I think what JW did was understandable - if you want to rely on a kicker.



a 2 point conversion would have been meaningless.

Cal was down 17-19.

The TD is 6 points which would make it 23-19 (4 points) UW can only win with a TD
a 2 point conversion does make it 25-19 (6 points) UW ties with a TD, but can go ahead with a conversion.

The extra point is mostly an after thought if teams are kicking. The moment/emotion shift you might create by failing the 2 point conversion pretty much makes going for 2 an incredibly BAD idea. Take the one point to make the gap a little bigger and trust the defense.

No. This is entirely wrong.

If you're up 4, you go for 2. If you get it, you're up 6. If you don't, you're up 4. But if you kick the extra point, you're up 5. Either way, they need a TD. If they get the TD when you're up 4, they go up 2 - game over - 100%. If they get the TD when you're up 5, game over - 100%. But if they get the TD when you're up 6, they still need to make the extra point to win. Yes, the make rate on extra points is extremely high but it's not 100%. Bad snaps, bad holds, bad kicks, blocked kicks, holdings or other penalties leading to longer and missed kicks. And on and on. But the extra point changes nothing, and a made 2-point conversion gives you a shot.
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https://instagr.am/p/B2JOwDQBu2X
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okaydo said:

TandemBear said:

TouchedTheAxeIn82 said:

I missed the entire 3rd Qtr because I was on the road. I was sitting in my car listening to the game, slack-jawed at what I was hearing. I'll watch the recording tomorrow to see what I missed. I'm stunned at what the offense was able to do in the 2nd half.
Um, if your "recording" is like mine, you'll have missed almost the entire game. Mine (Dish) shut off at around the game's expected end time, which was probably before it even resumed. So you will want to search your guide for a replay and record it. I'd hate for you to miss this gem. (BTW, I have to do same. In the throes of the game, I didn't even think to hit record to prolong the recording.) That said, FS1 doesn't show a replay in my guide currently. Will they replay it, or will Pac12 Network have rights to the replay? Either way, this is the most replay-worthy game of the weekend!

Important edit: I just went through my recording, and it ends with 11:56 remaining in the third. Thanks to the stupid guide protocol, the worthwhile part of the game isn't recorded. You'd think they'd address this issue...

Edit #3: FS2 is replaying the game on Tuesday, 9/10, at 11:30am PDT. You may have to override the "auto-skip" function if, like me, you already have tonight's recording on your DVR.

This is the beauty of YouTube TV:

1. You just click on a link and it automatically records all Cal football games and you can easily access each game on a single page. (Every Cal football game that isn't on Pac-12 Network, that is -- you can also set it to automatically record all Pac-12 games and/or all college football games.)

2. YouTube TV automatically records football games until the bitter end. Actually, not the bitter end. See the screenshot below. The game ends around the 5 hour and 44 minute mark and it still recorded until a few minutes past 6 hours.

3. It stores game(s) for 9 months on the free cloud DVR. (I have a few more weeks until the Cheez-It Bowl is deleted.)






The replay is available on the Fox Sports App replay section right now.
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At midnight central time before game resumption, I elected to sleep. Obviously the best choice for my health, but I missed a good one.

Two years in a row against the Fuskies. Damn, that feels good!
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Wilcox takes Petersen two years running. Bears own the dogs.
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burritos said:

https://hardcorehusky.com/discussion/62583/official-washington-cal-game-thread/p85

Stirring the beehive while it's on fire. Nice NYC!


That Weaver meme was awesome.
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oskidunker
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Direct tv lets you add up to three hours, so I got it all.
Bring back It’s It’s to Haas Pavillion!
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Here's a nice stat courtesy of ESPN: The 192 yards rushing by California was the most allowed by Washington since the Fiesta Bowl two years ago, when Penn State, led by Saquon Barkley, rushed for 203.
 
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