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We should all stick to whichever forums give us the most pleasure... because this is a leisure activity for us all

Go Bears!

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Yes, it is a "leisure" activity.

But at least demonstrate that you are INFORMED.

The fact that you didnt know the Lakers regular season record or were oblivious to the fact that without Poole's 20.4 points a game during the regular season the Dubs most likely dont even make the playoffs, is quite telling.

Also telling, is that youre blind to the immense talent that Jonathan Kuminga is.

You say that you want Youth to reinvigorate the Warriors roster. Its shocking that you cant see the talent of JK.

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Four of the six games in this series were blowouts by one team or another. Why did Kuminga only get 25 minutes total off the bench after averaging about 20 per game in the regular season?

If it was about matchups he didn't get off the bench much versus Sacramento either.

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Kerr said that Sacramento didnt provide a good match-up for JK, but said that a better match up would occur against the Lakers and JK would see more playing time.

That never happened.
You'd have to ask Kerr why.

The Dubs looked flat and tired last night.

And LeBron looked like he was 20 years old again.

Interestingly enough, most of the Lakers become free agents after this season. Draymond is friends with LeBron and AD. I could see him going to the Lakers if Joe Lacob doesnt want to spend the money to keep him.

Lots of "changes" coming I think for the Dubs. And another question is whether or not GM Bob Meyers stays.

DiabloWags said:

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dimitrig said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Big C said:

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We should all stick to whichever forums give us the most pleasure... because this is a leisure activity for us all

Go Bears!

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Yes, it is a "leisure" activity.

But at least demonstrate that you are INFORMED.

The fact that you didnt know the Lakers regular season record or were oblivious to the fact that without Poole's 20.4 points a game during the regular season the Dubs most likely dont even make the playoffs, is quite telling.

Also telling, is that youre blind to the immense talent that Jonathan Kuminga is.

You say that you want Youth to reinvigorate the Warriors roster. Its shocking that you cant see the talent of JK.

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Four of the six games in this series were blowouts by one team or another. Why did Kuminga only get 25 minutes total off the bench after averaging about 20 per game in the regular season?

If it was about matchups he didn't get off the bench much versus Sacramento either.

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Kerr said that Sacramento didnt provide a good match-up for JK, but said that a better match up would occur against the Lakers and JK would see more playing time.

That never happened.
You'd have to ask Kerr why.

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Why not get him some PT in the blowouts in either series?

Kerr isn't a bad coach so he must have had reasons, but I wonder if Kuminga isn't going to feature prominently in the Warriors' future. Otherwise, why not give him some minutes to develop him?

https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/warriors/nba-rumors-jonathan-kuminga-could-seek-warriors-trade-if-not-given-bigger-role

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Why not get the rookie some PT in the blowouts in either series?

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He did play 9 minutes of "garbage" time in Game 3 vs the Lakers when they won by 30. - - - JK scored 10 points.

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dimitrig said:

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Why not get the rookie some PT in the blowouts in either series?

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He did play 9 minutes of "garbage" time in Game 3 vs the Lakers when they won by 30. - - - JK scored 10 points.

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I said he's a rookie but he's a second year player. That was pointed out to me above. That just makes it worse.

I can understand Max Christie getting 20 minutes of playing time in the series. The guy is a 2nd round pick rookie, but a lottery pick two years in can't barely get off the bench?

In the 13 playoff games there were 7 blowouts and Kuminga averaged 6 minutes of playing time. I have to think if Kerr thought he could help he would have played him. Is he that raw?

Yes. He's just 20 and Kerr's choice to give Lamb tons of minutes was inexcusable. Also, Iggys empty seat provided nothing

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Big C said:

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Where do the Warriors go from here? Glad I don't have to decide.

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Starting point: they lost to a good Lakers team, so don't overreact. It's the same group that beat Sacramento 2 weeks ago with Steph putting up 50.

The core four have to stay together, just don't extend Draymond too long. They need to start transitioning the next generation of players in. Those guys need to be able to take regular minutes and they need to be able to score within the flow of the offense, not just Poole jacking up long 3s (he plays like he thinks he's the next Steph; he's not).

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I'm not sure I agree.

Are the Lakers really that good?. How far do you think they're gonna go this season? What was their record?

I can't see the Warriors winning another title with this aging core... and "parallel paths" didn't work. Given that, maybe it's time to blow it up and start fresh...

I love Steph, but how much more does he have, for how many games a season?
Draymond rocks my world, but same thing.
Love Klay, but he didn't look so good against LA... probably on a glide path to retirement.

Wiggins, Loon and GP2: Great glue guys.

Poole: too expensive for what he provides... questions about his value to the team (although someone has to be Draymond's designated punching bag)

Kuminga: He'd have to get things figured out over the next six months.

Everyone else: Role players... dime a dozen

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Yes, they are. Post trade deadline they had something like the 2nd best winning percentage in the league. They beat the #2 seed in 6 games. Repeat for the defending champs. Their roster is deep and versatile and they play great defense. The 2 superstars usually come through and then usually 2 from about 4 or 5 guys have a 20 point night.

tequila4kapp said:

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Big C said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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Big C said:

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Where do the Warriors go from here? Glad I don't have to decide.

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Starting point: they lost to a good Lakers team, so don't overreact. It's the same group that beat Sacramento 2 weeks ago with Steph putting up 50.

The core four have to stay together, just don't extend Draymond too long. They need to start transitioning the next generation of players in. Those guys need to be able to take regular minutes and they need to be able to score within the flow of the offense, not just Poole jacking up long 3s (he plays like he thinks he's the next Steph; he's not).

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I'm not sure I agree.

Are the Lakers really that good?. How far do you think they're gonna go this season? What was their record?

I can't see the Warriors winning another title with this aging core... and "parallel paths" didn't work. Given that, maybe it's time to blow it up and start fresh...

I love Steph, but how much more does he have, for how many games a season?
Draymond rocks my world, but same thing.
Love Klay, but he didn't look so good against LA... probably on a glide path to retirement.

Wiggins, Loon and GP2: Great glue guys.

Poole: too expensive for what he provides... questions about his value to the team (although someone has to be Draymond's designated punching bag)

Kuminga: He'd have to get things figured out over the next six months.

Everyone else: Role players... dime a dozen

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Yes, they are. Post trade deadline they had something like the 2nd best winning percentage in the league. They beat the #2 seed in 6 games. Repeat for the defending champs. Their roster is deep and versatile and they play great defense. The 2 superstars usually come through and then usually 2 from about 4 or 5 guys have a 20 point night.

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If they win the title or even come close, I will try and remember to come back and say, "you told me so". I will say, LeBron looked like he had found the Fountain of Youth last night and AD, when he is playing at 100%, is an all-pro.

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Amazing to see the undrafted Lakers Reaves playing and performing while the last two high W's draft picks have been traded for nothing or sit on bench.

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It is hard to imagine Reaves is a rookie. He makes such good decisions with the basketball.

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Second year player.

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Ah, yes. Still a very high IQ player.

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I loved his behind the back dribble on his drive to the hoop (or as Pete Maravich called it, "The cross over dribble you can't steal") and then fell backwards and made the shot. He has skills and is difficult to guard.

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I found the clip. He did a through the legs before the behind the back crossover:



https://www.reddit.com/r/nbacirclejerk/comments/120jwpx/all_time_jerk_sequence_from_the_goat_effortlessly/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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Big C said:

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We should all stick to whichever forums give us the most pleasure... because this is a leisure activity for us all

Go Bears!

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Yes, it is a "leisure" activity.

But at least demonstrate that you are INFORMED.

The fact that you didnt know the Lakers regular season record or were oblivious to the fact that without Poole's 20.4 points a game during the regular season the Dubs most likely dont even make the playoffs, is quite telling.

Also telling, is that youre blind to the immense talent that Jonathan Kuminga is.

You say that you want Youth to reinvigorate the Warriors roster. Its shocking that you cant see the talent of JK.

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I have been quite aware of... a) Lakers record... b) Poole's PPG in the reg. season and... c) Kuminga's potential

Regarding Poole, good offense, no defense. Against the Lakers, his offense petered out, too. Also, lousy body language of late. Maybe JP gets things straightened out, but the Warrior's brass is kicking themselves right now, for giving him that huge contract. His first season, he looked like a complete bust, but then worked his butt off the next two years to make himself into what he was last season. I guess the hope was, he would use that work ethic to make himself a pretty good defender, too. Hasn't happened yet.

Regarding Kuminga, yes, great athleticism and potential. Hopefully things come together for him next season.

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Yes. He's just 20 and Kerr's choice to give Lamb tons of minutes was inexcusable. Also, Iggys empty seat provided nothing

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Bingo.

Kerr is not infallible and I think that he's made some poor player management decisions.
And to think that Iggy (barely) played in 3 games this season was a total waste of a roster spot.
The repeated playing of Lamb with significant minutes didnt make a lot of sense to me either.

For the people here that havent watched much of the Warriors, Kuminga did pretty well whenever he was given a chance to start. In fact, in wins over the Cavs and Grizzlies earlier this year with a loss to the Nets sandwiched between them, Kuminga scored 14.3 points, with 3.0 assists and 2.7 rebounds, shooting 18-30 from the field and 3 for 4 from beyond the arc.

He's not just a raw talent.
When given playing time he's proven that he belongs.
In fact, most of his defensive possessions were as the primary defender on Kyrie Irving, Ja Morant, Darius Garland, and Evan Mobley.

I guess if Wiggins hadnt been able to play due to his fractured rib cartilage, we would have most likely seen Kuminga.

Meanwhile, I just have to add that Klay's defense has deteriorated this season to the point where it was certainly questionable keeping him in the game when he's only averaging 9 points a game over the last 3 vs the Lakers.

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Big C said:

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dimitrig said:

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Where do the Warriors go from here? Glad I don't have to decide.

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Starting point: they lost to a good Lakers team, so don't overreact. It's the same group that beat Sacramento 2 weeks ago with Steph putting up 50.

The core four have to stay together, just don't extend Draymond too long. They need to start transitioning the next generation of players in. Those guys need to be able to take regular minutes and they need to be able to score within the flow of the offense, not just Poole jacking up long 3s (he plays like he thinks he's the next Steph; he's not).

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Colin Cowherd says:

Jaylen Brown and Malcolm Brogdon to the Warriors in exchange for Andrew Wiggins and Jordan Poole.

He must be on crack.

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Maybe not: Jaylen Brown is a dynamic player and a Cal guy (irrelevant, except to us here). Brogdon might be the perfect compliment to Steph (mostly not on the court at the same time)

Wiggins is in his prime and is versatile. Hate to lose him, but the W's would love to get out from under the contract they gave Poole... huge mistake.

Possible good trade for the Warriors (I've never done crack... yet.)

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Jaylen Brown is an unrestricted free agent after next season and has said he will test the free agent market.

So that deal might be good for Boston in that it gets them out of the choice between busting their salary cap for Jaylen versus letting him walk for nothing in return.

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Wasn't that quote before he made All Pro and qualified for a big contract? If he leaves Boston, I think he walks away from a lot of dollars....

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The Celtics have not offered Brown a supermax extension.

He is now eligible to be offered a supermax of 5 years, $295 million by the Celtics -- but I doubt they'll make him a max offer. The question is how far below the max the Celtics' offer will be.

The Celtics are squeezed in a vise now, because Tatum is eligible for an even bigger supermax contract, 5 years, $318 million. If the Celtics max both Brown and Tatum, when those contracts kick in, more than $120 million/year of the Celtics' salary cap will be taken up by just two players. The cap for next season is projected to be $134 million, and it only goes up a few percent each season. Also, starting next season, there are new anti-Warriors provisions in the cap rules that impose heavier penalties on any team that substantially exceeds the cap.

I just don't think full contracts of those you draft and develop should count against the cap they way it does now.

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I just don't think full contracts of those you draft and develop should count against the cap they way it does now.

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Lacob argued that point to his fellow owners. He not only lost that argument, but the league also increased the penalties for exceeding the cap.

So the Warriors don't get cap relief for the giant contracts of Steph, Dray, and Klay, and the Celtics won't get cap relief if they give giant contracts to Tatum and Brown.

This is going to be the most interesting off season of the Kerr era. I have no idea what direction they are heading, especially if Myers leaves.

If I had to make a wild guess, I think Lacob has learned from his mistakes and may decide to scrap the two time line plan. I think lacob knows that if he had gone all in last off season, the dubs would've had a very good chance to repeat this year.

So if I have to guess, I think he's going to keep the core together (plus looney) and everyone else is gojng to be on the trading block (even wiggins, depending on what he can bring back)

The warriors know they have 2-4 more really good years from Steph. I think they know they simply cannot fool around with his last few years with this two time line stuff. I can absolutely see them getting rid of moody, JK and Poole (and possibly even wiggins) if they can get some players back who can help right now. Yes, that'll destroy their future, but I think they're going to worry about that when they have to worry about it.

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The fact that you didnt know the Lakers regular season record or were oblivious to the fact that without Poole's 20.4 points a game during the regular season the Dubs most likely dont even make the playoffs, is quite telling.

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On Poole: NBA history is littered with guys who were productive in the regular season but disappeared in the playoffs. Some of that is matchups, but also pretty much everyone acknowledges that the playoffs are a different game: rotations get shorter, starters play longer minutes at higher intensity, and EVERYONE plays defense rather than waltzing through half the game as they might on a random Wednesday night in January. It's kind of where you determine what you really have in a player.

Seems like Poole was able to put up stats in the more relaxed environment but couldn't do it in the pressure cooker. And honestly, we saw a bit of this in last year's playoffs too, him getting less effective in later rounds. But he still always had a breakout game or two and this year he didn't. He was just bad. That's super concerning for a guy who just got a big contract.

did Klay really only take 11 dribbles on his 60 point game?

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And honestly, we saw a bit of this in last year's playoffs too, him getting less effective in later rounds. But he still always had a breakout game or two and this year he didn't. He was just bad. That's super concerning for a guy who just got a big contract.

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Yes, his defense got exposed so Kerr had to go to a Zone Defense against the Celtics in the NBA Finals in order to "hide" Poole's shortcomings when he was in the line-up. Otherwise, he was simply benched in the 4th quarter during crunchtime.

Of even greater concern to me is Klay.
He's making $40 million a year and is one of the streakiest shooters that I've seen in my lifetime.

The guy goes from scoring an average of 22 points a game during the Regular Season to a piddly 9 points a game in the last 3 games against the Lakers. The guy is a starter with questionable D and (turnovers) and he totally disappears in the Laker's series. Klay is no longer "Game 6" Klay. We can officially retire that slogan. Going 3 for 19 in last night's game says it all. He shot 25% for the last 4 games.

Rumor has it, Bob Meyers will be offering him a pay cut for next season.

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Of even greater concern to me is Klay.
He's making $40 million a year and is one of the streakiest shooters that I've seen in my lifetime.

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Yes, Klay is a bigger concern than Poole.

Poole is 23 and healthy, and can be traded if Kerr has had enough of him; there are several plausible trade scenarios. Or, he will improve enough to make his contract tolerable. Anyone who says that contract can't be traded wasn't paying attention when Russell Westbrook's $40 MM/year contract was traded four times in the past four years.

Klay is 33, has had two serious injuries, and is not as effective as he was before the injuries. Next season he makes $43 million and it's the last year on his contract. Would be best for the Warriors if Klay gets no extension and just plays out the last year of his contract before the team makes any further decisions, but sentiment will probably overrule reason.

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tequila4kapp said:

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Big C said:

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Big C said:

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Where do the Warriors go from here? Glad I don't have to decide.

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Starting point: they lost to a good Lakers team, so don't overreact. It's the same group that beat Sacramento 2 weeks ago with Steph putting up 50.

The core four have to stay together, just don't extend Draymond too long. They need to start transitioning the next generation of players in. Those guys need to be able to take regular minutes and they need to be able to score within the flow of the offense, not just Poole jacking up long 3s (he plays like he thinks he's the next Steph; he's not).

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I'm not sure I agree.

Are the Lakers really that good?. How far do you think they're gonna go this season? What was their record?

I can't see the Warriors winning another title with this aging core... and "parallel paths" didn't work. Given that, maybe it's time to blow it up and start fresh...

I love Steph, but how much more does he have, for how many games a season?
Draymond rocks my world, but same thing.
Love Klay, but he didn't look so good against LA... probably on a glide path to retirement.

Wiggins, Loon and GP2: Great glue guys.

Poole: too expensive for what he provides... questions about his value to the team (although someone has to be Draymond's designated punching bag)

Kuminga: He'd have to get things figured out over the next six months.

Everyone else: Role players... dime a dozen

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Yes, they are. Post trade deadline they had something like the 2nd best winning percentage in the league. They beat the #2 seed in 6 games. Repeat for the defending champs. Their roster is deep and versatile and they play great defense. The 2 superstars usually come through and then usually 2 from about 4 or 5 guys have a 20 point night.

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If they win the title or even come close, I will try and remember to come back and say, "you told me so". I will say, LeBron looked like he had found the Fountain of Youth last night and AD, when he is playing at 100%, is an all-pro.

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im not saying they are winning the championship just that they are legit enough that GS shouldn't go to panic mode with their about losing to them. They got beat by a good team, that's all.

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DiabloWags said:

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Of even greater concern to me is Klay.
He's making $40 million a year and is one of the streakiest shooters that I've seen in my lifetime.

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Yes, Klay is a bigger concern than Poole.

Poole is 23 and healthy, and can be traded if Kerr has had enough of him; there are several plausible trade scenarios. Or, he will improve enough to make his contract tolerable. Anyone who says that contract can't be traded wasn't paying attention when Russell Westbrook's $40 MM/year contract was traded four times in the past four years.

Klay is 33, has had two serious injuries, and is not as effective as he was before the injuries. Next season he makes $43 million and it's the last year on his contract. Would be best for the Warriors if Klay gets no extension and just plays out the last year of his contract before the team makes any further decisions, but sentiment will probably overrule reason.

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His trade value is potentially highest with an expiring contract

BearSD said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Of even greater concern to me is Klay.
He's making $40 million a year and is one of the streakiest shooters that I've seen in my lifetime.

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Yes, Klay is a bigger concern than Poole.

Poole is 23 and healthy, and can be traded if Kerr has had enough of him; there are several plausible trade scenarios. Or, he will improve enough to make his contract tolerable. Anyone who says that contract can't be traded wasn't paying attention when Russell Westbrook's $40 MM/year contract was traded four times in the past four years.

Klay is 33, has had two serious injuries, and is not as effective as he was before the injuries. Next season he makes $43 million and it's the last year on his contract. Would be best for the Warriors if Klay gets no extension and just plays out the last year of his contract before the team makes any further decisions, but sentiment will probably overrule reason.

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Klay is certainly a concern, but you expect guys to decline at his age and with his injuries. Poole was supposed to help fill that gap, and yikes!

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BearSD said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Of even greater concern to me is Klay.
He's making $40 million a year and is one of the streakiest shooters that I've seen in my lifetime.

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Yes, Klay is a bigger concern than Poole.

Poole is 23 and healthy, and can be traded if Kerr has had enough of him; there are several plausible trade scenarios. Or, he will improve enough to make his contract tolerable. Anyone who says that contract can't be traded wasn't paying attention when Russell Westbrook's $40 MM/year contract was traded four times in the past four years.

Klay is 33, has had two serious injuries, and is not as effective as he was before the injuries. Next season he makes $43 million and it's the last year on his contract. Would be best for the Warriors if Klay gets no extension and just plays out the last year of his contract before the team makes any further decisions, but sentiment will probably overrule reason.

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Klay is certainly a concern, but you expect guys to decline at his age and with his injuries. Poole was supposed to help fill that gap, and yikes!

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I would suggest that coming off the bench is much more difficult (for just about any player in the league) and it was certainly the case for Poole. His numbers as a starter (when Steph was hurt) compared to when he came off the bench aren't even close.

He averaged 24.6 points in 43 games as a starter this season.
He averaged 20.8 points in 51 games as a starter in 2021-2022.

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I wish all of bust recruits became Pac 12 Freshman POY.

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Yes, 14.6 points per game, 29.4% from 3 and 65% from the line.
Decent numbers for a freshman, but not even close to the way that he has transcended his game in the NBA.

At Cal, he disappeared in the Pac-12 Tournament.
Lots of hype. Perhaps over-hyped?

Was 1 - 6 against Oregon State with 8 points and 6 turnovers in 31 minutes.

Was 3 - 17 against Utah in the Title game with 12 points and 1 turnover in 32 minutes.



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mbBear said:

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BearSD said:

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Big C said:

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dimitrig said:

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Big C said:

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Where do the Warriors go from here? Glad I don't have to decide.

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Starting point: they lost to a good Lakers team, so don't overreact. It's the same group that beat Sacramento 2 weeks ago with Steph putting up 50.

The core four have to stay together, just don't extend Draymond too long. They need to start transitioning the next generation of players in. Those guys need to be able to take regular minutes and they need to be able to score within the flow of the offense, not just Poole jacking up long 3s (he plays like he thinks he's the next Steph; he's not).

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Colin Cowherd says:

Jaylen Brown and Malcolm Brogdon to the Warriors in exchange for Andrew Wiggins and Jordan Poole.

He must be on crack.

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Maybe not: Jaylen Brown is a dynamic player and a Cal guy (irrelevant, except to us here). Brogdon might be the perfect compliment to Steph (mostly not on the court at the same time)

Wiggins is in his prime and is versatile. Hate to lose him, but the W's would love to get out from under the contract they gave Poole... huge mistake.

Possible good trade for the Warriors (I've never done crack... yet.)

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Jaylen Brown is an unrestricted free agent after next season and has said he will test the free agent market.

So that deal might be good for Boston in that it gets them out of the choice between busting their salary cap for Jaylen versus letting him walk for nothing in return.

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Wasn't that quote before he made All Pro and qualified for a big contract? If he leaves Boston, I think he walks away from a lot of dollars....

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The Celtics have not offered Brown a supermax extension.

He is now eligible to be offered a supermax of 5 years, $295 million by the Celtics -- but I doubt they'll make him a max offer. The question is how far below the max the Celtics' offer will be.

The Celtics are squeezed in a vise now, because Tatum is eligible for an even bigger supermax contract, 5 years, $318 million. If the Celtics max both Brown and Tatum, when those contracts kick in, more than $120 million/year of the Celtics' salary cap will be taken up by just two players. The cap for next season is projected to be $134 million, and it only goes up a few percent each season. Also, starting next season, there are new anti-Warriors provisions in the cap rules that impose heavier penalties on any team that substantially exceeds the cap.

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I didn't say they offered, after all, this only kicked in the other day.... but I don't believe they will let him walk. I long ago gave up following Salary Cap rules, but I thought "Bird Rights" would give them flexibility here with both he and Tatum.
Believe me, as a Sixers fan, I would be happy to be wrong...

The Dubs shooters clearly suffered from the every other day grind. 9 games in 17 days. Many of Klay's shots were short.

The last minute or so of Game #4 was the defining moment for me.

Dray gets caught in the air trying to make a pass to no one. Klay takes a really bad shot. Curry sprawled on the floor... allows the ball to roll straight out of bounds. Afraid to call a time-out, or perhaps he didnt have enough possession at the time. And then Curry's 29 footer to end the game.

We're usually much more poised, patient, and adept at making plays in the final minute. But not THIS season. We blew a lot of games late. This game was no exception.

Oh well.
They need to get bigger for next season.

If there was one thing that really bothered me this season it was all the unforced turnovers.
Also...agree about the bigger part. PBJ not bigger in a big sense, but tall intrigues me.

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Big C said:

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dimitrig said:

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Big C said:

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Where do the Warriors go from here? Glad I don't have to decide.

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Starting point: they lost to a good Lakers team, so don't overreact. It's the same group that beat Sacramento 2 weeks ago with Steph putting up 50.

The core four have to stay together, just don't extend Draymond too long. They need to start transitioning the next generation of players in. Those guys need to be able to take regular minutes and they need to be able to score within the flow of the offense, not just Poole jacking up long 3s (he plays like he thinks he's the next Steph; he's not).

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Colin Cowherd says:

Jaylen Brown and Malcolm Brogdon to the Warriors in exchange for Andrew Wiggins and Jordan Poole.

He must be on crack.

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Maybe not: Jaylen Brown is a dynamic player and a Cal guy (irrelevant, except to us here). Brogdon might be the perfect compliment to Steph (mostly not on the court at the same time)

Wiggins is in his prime and is versatile. Hate to lose him, but the W's would love to get out from under the contract they gave Poole... huge mistake.

Possible good trade for the Warriors (I've never done crack... yet.)

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Jaylen Brown is an unrestricted free agent after next season and has said he will test the free agent market.

So that deal might be good for Boston in that it gets them out of the choice between busting their salary cap for Jaylen versus letting him walk for nothing in return.

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Wasn't that quote before he made All Pro and qualified for a big contract? If he leaves Boston, I think he walks away from a lot of dollars....

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The Celtics have not offered Brown a supermax extension.

He is now eligible to be offered a supermax of 5 years, $295 million by the Celtics -- but I doubt they'll make him a max offer. The question is how far below the max the Celtics' offer will be.

The Celtics are squeezed in a vise now, because Tatum is eligible for an even bigger supermax contract, 5 years, $318 million. If the Celtics max both Brown and Tatum, when those contracts kick in, more than $120 million/year of the Celtics' salary cap will be taken up by just two players. The cap for next season is projected to be $134 million, and it only goes up a few percent each season. Also, starting next season, there are new anti-Warriors provisions in the cap rules that impose heavier penalties on any team that substantially exceeds the cap.

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I didn't say they offered, after all, this only kicked in the other day.... but I don't believe they will let him walk. I long ago gave up following Salary Cap rules, but I thought "Bird Rights" would give them flexibility here with both he and Tatum.
Believe me, as a Sixers fan, I would be happy to be wrong...

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The flexibility with Bird rights is that the Celtics have the ability to offer Brown and Tatum more money on their next contract than any other team can. But there is no salary cap relief or loophole when you max out your own player. The entire salary still counts against the cap. Steph's $50 MM/year supermax deal counts in full against the Warriors' cap.

James Harden agreed to take a lot less than his max so that the 76ers could have cap room to add other good players. The Celtics probably hope that Tatum and Brown will do what Harden did.

My recollection is that he slumped toward the end of his frosh season. I hardly consider that he was a bust.

the Warriors we're used to seeing are the teams that played the first 3 quarters like they did vs the Lakers

... but before the difference was in the past the Warriors would ratchet up the defensive pressure and turn on the hyperdrive offense to win in the fourth

this season there were no 4th Quarter defensive stops and their offense only got to warp factor 2

The slap under the ear is a 'auricularis magnus nerve KO.