Cal vs The technical foul machine and Curtain of Distraction

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It's amazing on the year Celestine has a 47.8 FG%, yet is shooting even better from 3.
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Hot takes at the half:

Either the announcers didn't get the "Ce LESS tine" memo at the beginning of the season, or they are actively disregarding it.

Speaking of "actively disregarding", it almost looks like the players are avoiding passing to Cone on purpose. While this might not be a bad idea, it seems as though ASU has noticed and they are defending 5 on 4 now.
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HoopDreams said:

More capable center?

Yeah, Aimaq isn't a good defender based on matchups but I just don't understand the lack of love on this board

Are you watching this game? He's dominating on both sides of the court

When was the last time you've seen a Cal center do that against a high major ?

bearsandgiants said:

Cone just can't help but insist he's the guy from three. We were doing great with his unselfish play, until it flipped. That, and the laziness on ball security, are my only beefs with this team. Madsen needs to lay down the law on those two issues. Secure that ball like someone's trying to steal your infant child. And stop firing up threes if you're not wide open. If this team would abide by both of those, they'd be a tournament team. Hopefully we can get an even more capable center and a point guard next year. Madsen can coach, but he needs players with a bit more basketball iq if he's not going to lay the smack down.

I think it's easy for people to nitpick Aimaq - he is slow, and it shows quite easily. But I agree, the positives he brings to the team outweigh any negatives, especially depending on the match up.
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Big C said:


Hot takes at the half:

Either the announcers didn't get the "Ce LESS tine" memo at the beginning of the season, or they are actively disregarding it.

Speaking of "actively disregarding", it almost looks like the players are avoiding passing to Cone on purpose. While this might not be a bad idea, it seems as though ASU has noticed and they are defending 5 on 4 now.
I think Cone needs to concentrate more on driving the ball and taking close range 2s, or passing to open teammates around the basket or kicking out to open 3 point shooters. He had a close range 2 in the first half, it just didn't fall. But this is a much better play than the wild 3 point shots he often hoists (he put up a 3 point shot today as he was slipping!).
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HoopDreams said:

More capable center?

Yeah, Aimaq isn't a good defender based on matchups but I just don't understand the lack of love on this board

Are you watching this game? He's dominating on both sides of the court

When was the last time you've seen a Cal center do that against a high major ?

bearsandgiants said:

Cone just can't help but insist he's the guy from three. We were doing great with his unselfish play, until it flipped. That, and the laziness on ball security, are my only beefs with this team. Madsen needs to lay down the law on those two issues. Secure that ball like someone's trying to steal your infant child. And stop firing up threes if you're not wide open. If this team would abide by both of those, they'd be a tournament team. Hopefully we can get an even more capable center and a point guard next year. Madsen can coach, but he needs players with a bit more basketball iq if he's not going to lay the smack down.



He's capable. I should correct myself. He just has repeated sloppy dumb decisions due to ball security. Like everything takes an extra second to register they you need to protect the ball, and then it's gone. Happens 5-10 times a game and usually leads to turnovers. His numbers are great. They could be, and should be, otherworldly. He's not meeting his potential and that's part laziness, part Madsen not helping him, imo.
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I'm not a Daws hater, but I do think a lot of people here rate him way above his actual proven abilities. He's a "good" big man who does not have the quickness or reliable scoring in the paint to make him a "great" center who has a chance in the NBA. I appreciate his toughness, rebounding ability, and of course he makes Cal's top ten big men list (not a list full of talent), but yes, there are a lot more capable big men out there and I hope Mad Dog finds one or trains Larsen to become Mad Dog II.
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Cal8285 said:

bearister said:

Anyone else watching the game when Stevin "Headake the Point Shaver" Smith beat the Kidd led Bears in Tempe with a half court hurl buzzer beater?
Ah, 30 years ago, I was there. It was a big punch to the gut. I can't say I appreciate the reminder.

Maybe there was some type of gambling scenario on that game where if Headake didn't make that shot he was going to be planted in a hole in the desert.
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barsad said:

I'm not a Daws hater, but I do think a lot of people here rate him way above his actual proven abilities. He's a "good" big man who does not have the quickness or reliable scoring in the paint to make him a "great" center who has a chance in the NBA. I appreciate his toughness, rebounding ability, and of course he makes Cal's top ten big men list (not a list full of talent), but yes, there are a lot more capable big men out there and I hope Mad Dog finds one or trains Larsen to become Mad Dog II.

Look, if he was great he would be in the NBA by age 25. But answer me this: Who was the last Cal center to be tied for 4th in the NCAA for most Double/Doubles at this point in the season? He's good enough, and for Cal he is outstanding.
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But where is Shocky?
Taylor Swift is in the house, but where is Shocky?
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Aimaq is bringing his a game so far this half, which has been great to see.
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Cone stops the ASU momentum! (For now)
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JimSox said:

Cone stops the ASU momentum! (For now)


Not boxing out is hurting us this half. Not a lot of confidence in our shots, either. Tyson with a tiny bit of hesitation. Gotta go up decisively expecting to make every shot .
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Cone plays loose

Sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn't

Kennedy having a huge game, shooting 3s, 2-3 steals and locking down their gun
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Brown too cool to follow his shot?
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about the earlier technical, per twitter source:
"Hurley wanted a foul on a Lands drive, didn't get it and then he and others were standing well onto the court and ASU's bench was hit with a technical foul."
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Gawd, we are getting killed on the boards this half. This Phillips is a monster down low...

Hold on, Bears!
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Cone bailing us out this half
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The question is can Cal handle the ramped up late game ASU defensive pressure that killed them the last game?
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Best game since Santa Clara
Go Bears!
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However many 3s we've made today, it's gotta be about 25% of the number we made all of last season.
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bearsandgiants said:

Brown too cool to follow his shot?


Sometimes it's better for a shooter to not follow their shot… just focus on good balanced shot and follow through
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Daws kind of sideways instead of square and boxing out. Could have 25 rebounds a game. Rodman-type numbers, with proper technique.
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I guess I made an error in judgment when I took a hard pass on placing heavy cheese on the Bears +2.5 points. Shucks.
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MoragaBear said:

The question is can Cal handle the ramped up late game ASU defensive pressure that killed them the last game?

This game is OVER
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ASU started to ramp up the pressure but they tailed off and look lazy out there. The Bears are playing a really nice game.
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Aimaq likes curtain of distraction
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Big C said:


However many 3s we've made today, it's gotta be about 25% of the number we made all of last season.

11-22 so far.
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kinda biased for an announcer to say "Uh Oh" when it was clear that Newell was going to get an easy bucket
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HoopDreams said:

Aimaq likes curtain of distraction

Today the curtain characters have an Eyes Wide Shut orgy vibe. Disturbing.
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Cal fans are still anxiously waiting for the clock to expire.
Go Bears!
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Possibly our most complete game of the season. Great effort on defense, shots falling on offense.

It certainly helped ASU can't hit any shots.
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barsad said:

I'm not a Daws hater, but I do think a lot of people here rate him way above his actual proven abilities. He's a "good" big man who does not have the quickness or reliable scoring in the paint to make him a "great" center who has a chance in the NBA. I appreciate his toughness, rebounding ability, and of course he makes Cal's top ten big men list (not a list full of talent), but yes, there are a lot more capable big men out there and I hope Mad Dog finds one or trains Larsen to become Mad Dog II.
Good college big men don't grow on trees. Whether they can play in the NBA or not is irrelevant. It will be tough for us to match Daws' production next year.
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Tyson closes every contested layup just like J Kidd always did.
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Too bad Hurley has to lose to Cal again.
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Why don't more college fanbases try other versions of the curtain!??
 
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