buster99;842298870 said:
I didn't see the UC Irvine game when they were here. What was your impression of Turner? He has had back to back good seasons at UC Irvine
http://ucirvinesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/coaches/index
DrDanger;842298865 said:
He came to Cal primarily because his dad went to Cal. His dad passed away suddenly during Jarrod's freshman year. The reasons he chose Cal changed.
He didn't like Berkeley much coming from South lake Tahoe, and the Bozeman fiasco and all the crap didn't sit well with him.
Haase left for good reasons. I doubt he would be interested in the job. He has been an assistant at Kansas and UNC. I think he''ll wait for a higher profile job.
socaltownie;842298864 said:
The latest info though suggests both Tad and Larry would make significant more bank if they took the job. Larry would need a housing allowance. Tad is coming from Boulder which isn't Bay Area ridiculous but isn't Ogden cheap. I am at least calling both those guys and feeling them out - Tad more so because he has shown the ability to recruit well.
sluggo_Cal;842298868 said:
Just read that Musselman is in the final 2 for the South Florida job. I hope he does not get it. I want him at Cal.
Sluggo
grandmastapoop;842298894 said:
He has not really been successful anywhere he's been at a high level (he's won at the CBA and NBDL only). He also seems like a real pr-ck. I cannot see him being an even passable recruiter. This hire would be horrible.
grandmastapoop;842298894 said:
He has not really been successful anywhere he's been at a high level (he's won at the CBA and NBDL only). He also seems like a real pr-ck. I cannot see him being an even passable recruiter. This hire would be horrible.
GoBears58;842298895 said:
Monty wasn't an NBA succes either.. probably will be a very good college coach.
Musselman is a former head coach of the NBA's Golden State Warriors and Sacramento Kings who has also coached in the NBDL, where he won Coach of the Year honors in 2011-12. After that season, Musselman joined Herb Sendek's staff at Arizona State. He's recognized as a big reason why the Sun Devils won 21 games in each of the past two seasons.
grandmastapoop;842298894 said:
He has not really been successful anywhere he's been at a high level (he's won at the CBA and NBDL only). He also seems like a real pr-ck. I cannot see him being an even passable recruiter. This hire would be horrible.
GB54;842298828 said:
But we are an established program in a major conference which means we are still on the way up for mid major head coaches. We don't have to take people without significant head coach experience.
sluggo_Cal;842298898 said:
You could be right that he is a bad guy. I was not in the Bay Area when he coached here. But he over-achieved in the NBA, is known as a great teacher, and spent most of his time in lower leagues, so of course that is where he has had success. I think he would be a good to great recruiter as he is used to grinding, unlike the current guy, and his NBA credentials would be attractive. The fact that he is the final 2 for a good job shows I am not alone in liking him.
Sluggo
sluggo_Cal;842298898 said:
You could be right that he is a bad guy. I was not in the Bay Area when he coached here. But he over-achieved in the NBA, is known as a great teacher, and spent most of his time in lower leagues, so of course that is where he has had success. I think he would be a good to great recruiter as he is used to grinding, unlike the current guy, and his NBA credentials would be attractive. The fact that he is the final 2 for a good job shows I am not alone in liking him.
Sluggo
Jeff82;842298908 said:
Basketball is not football, where the BCS system constrains the post-season options of mid-majors. In basketball, it's possibly easier to succeed as the big fish in the smaller mid-major pond than to move to a less-attractive school in a major conference. Also, if the mid-major is a hoops-only school, they can pay their coach as much as a major conference school can.
grandmastapoop;842298918 said:
I'm a Kings fan and I like the Warriors. I thought he was a disaster at both stops, and not just in terms of wins. He was not a likeable guy. If he gets hired, I'll give him a fair shot, but in my opinion, we would long regret it. We will be back to square one, and lose the momentum Monty has going for us.
BC Calfan;842298922 said:
Just to play devil's advocate, how important of a factor is "likability"?
As long as he's clean, recruits well and wins, isn't that enough?
I mean, I don't think Monty's the most likeable guy around. He can be pretty abrasive and snobby at times.
sluggo_Cal;842298868 said:
Just read that Musselman is in the final 2 for the South Florida job. I hope he does not get it. I want him at Cal.
Sluggo
GoBears58;842298919 said:
Actually Tony Bennett would be my #1 but he is not going to leave UVA.
grandmastapoop;842298924 said:
I think it is a big factor in recruiting - the players and the families need to like you. And so do the HS and AAU coaches.
Optimistic Bear;842298935 said:
surprised no one has said ben howland.
i want decuire to get the job
KoreAmBear;842298937 said:
Isn't Cal Steve Lavin's dream job?
KoreAmBear;842298937 said:
Isn't Cal Steve Lavin's dream job?
calumnus;842298853 said:
His Pitt brand of basketball would be a horrible fit for Cal (plus look at our roster next year--you really think we are going to play Big East bang inside basketball?).
The rules have changed since his Pitt days and Pac-12 refs have always called it tighter than the Big East. Morevoer, fouls that were not called on UCLA would be called on Cal. Bank on it.
Bill Walton on Ben Howland basketball:
He would be a horrible recruiter at Cal.
Our current roster does not fit his brand of basketball (neither does the Pac-12 or the current rules).
Moreover, we would play boring basketball.
Haas would be empty.
His personality would not improve. At least Braun could recruit and be charming. At least Monty could coach.
Please, no more talk of Howland.
grandmastapoop;842298918 said:
Agree to disagree. However, if you're going to point to one job where he's in the top 2 as evidence of his desirability, I'll point to his inability to get any job above the NBDL since leaving Sacramento, and all the jobs that have been filled since that time where he was NOT the finalist.
I do remember he was fairly openly campaigning for the Cal job when Braun was fired. I don't know if he got an interview.
I'm a Kings fan and I like the Warriors. I thought he was a disaster at both stops, and not just in terms of wins. He was not a likeable guy. If he gets hired, I'll give him a fair shot, but in my opinion, we would long regret it. We will be back to square one, and lose the momentum Monty has going for us.
egbear82;842298943 said:
Kevin Johnson! Hey he already saved the Kings and can't be mayor forever :-)
calumnus;842298952 said:
+1 (don't know if you were serious)
New Mexico State's Menzies? From L.A. with great L.A. connections. UCLA degree plus Sac State masters in education.
calumnus;842298952 said:
New Mexico State's Menzies? From L.A. with great L.A. connections. UCLA degree plus Sac State masters in education.
bruab;842299005 said:
If we hire McKnight from Mater Dei would Stanley Johnson come with? Kid is the real deal.
