How about Bill Walton? One way to get him off the air.

+1. The Sheriff checks all the boxes and we can afford him.
http://www.seminoles.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=209573179

John Stockton.

Looperbear;842820100 said:

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Screw Larry K, he acted like a douche last week.

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Coach K argues every call. Good coach but I always dislike coaches who do that.

TexWoodyGiants;842820419 said:

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Coach K argues every call. Good coach but I always dislike coaches who do that.

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Like Monty?

bipolarbear;842820405 said:

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+1. The Sheriff checks all the boxes and we can afford him.
http://www.seminoles.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=209573179

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+1. Talking about defense! And recruiting Chicago. My first choice.

DrDanger;842820422 said:

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Like Monty?

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Yep. But for some reason I forgave Monty.

TexWoodyGiants;842820424 said:

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Yep. But for some reason I forgave Monty.

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Monty certainly was douchy during the game but I don't remember him being as bad as Larry was after last week's loss. Plus Monty was way more successful.

How about a woman coach?? Might as well try something different

oskidunker;842820432 said:

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How about a woman coach?? Might as well try something different

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Oh, here it goes. A 40 page thread with pics.

grandmastapoop;842820228 said:

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His time with the Warriors was intriguing. His time with the Kings was a disaster, but there were extenuating circumstances (and he didn't get off on the right foot, getting busted for DUI before his first game). He seemed to be a vagabond for a while and I recall he badly wanted the Cal job when Monty left. I haven't followed him at Nevada.

I have concerns, though they are mostly based on my perception and nothing concrete. First, his personality always seemed prickly and I don't trust his ability to recruit. I don't trust his ability to deal with Cal admin/academic restrictions. He's a basketball junky. He only cares about basketball. He will get frustrated, quickly, when he can't get guys he wants into school.

But he certainly does seem to know how to coach.

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He's recruited pretty well in his two years at Nevada. Granted most of his incoming players have been transfers, which is what you have to do at a place like Nevada. But his trajectory is something. He took over a 9-22 team and was 24-14 in Year 1, 28-6 this year, and most of his team is expected to be back next season and he adds 4 more high-major transfers. He's hired good recruiters (Dave Rice, Yanni) so it seems to me that he's aware that it's necessary to surround yourself with guys that can get players.

Whether he's a fit for Cal and can manage the academic component is a fair question. Otherwise, he checks off a lot of the boxes.

tsubamoto2001;842820450 said:

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He's recruited pretty well in his two years at Nevada. Granted most of his incoming players have been transfers, which is what you have to do at a place like Nevada. But his trajectory is something. He took over a 9-22 team and was 24-14 in Year 1, 28-6 this year, and most of his team is expected to be back next season and he adds 4 more high-major transfers. He's hired good recruiters (Dave Rice, Yanni) so it seems to me that he's aware that it's necessary to surround yourself with guys that can get players.

Whether he's a fit for Cal and can manage the academic component is a fair question. Otherwise, he checks off a lot of the boxes.

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Not that Cal should not do it, but wouldn't it seem a factor against Musselman since he hired Yanni? I favor Gates if he is interested.

Here's my biggest issue with randy Bennett.

He's been able to exploit a market inefficiency. But like all market inefficienies, it won't last forever. The rest of your competition inevitably catches up.

I like Brian Shaw. East Bay guy. NBA playing and coaching experience. Apparently, he is interested. Would be an upgrade over Martin.

tsubamoto2001;842820450 said:

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He's recruited pretty well in his two years at Nevada. Granted most of his incoming players have been transfers, which is what you have to do at a place like Nevada. But his trajectory is something. He took over a 9-22 team and was 24-14 in Year 1, 28-6 this year, and most of his team is expected to be back next season and he adds 4 more high-major transfers. He's hired good recruiters (Dave Rice, Yanni) so it seems to me that he's aware that it's necessary to surround yourself with guys that can get players.

Whether he's a fit for Cal and can manage the academic component is a fair question. Otherwise, he checks off a lot of the boxes.

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The fact he's done it with transfers is even more concerning. Transfer students are easier to recruit - they often have very few options, and they are less easily swayed by personality. They often feel chewed up and spit out, and have gone through some disappointment. It's not remotely the same as recruiting high school kids.

grandmastapoop;842820498 said:

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The fact he's done it with transfers is even more concerning. Transfer students are easier to recruit - they often have very few options, and they are less easily swayed by personality. They often feel chewed up and spit out, and have gone through some disappointment. It's not remotely the same as recruiting high school kids.

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And probably none of those transfers would get past Cal admissions.

CalEnviroLaw;842820473 said:

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I like Brian Shaw. East Bay guy. NBA playing and coaching experience. Apparently, he is interested. Would be an upgrade over Martin.

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Shaw would be a coup. There's no doubt he will be able to recruit and he's a major upgrade X's and O's wise over cuonzo. The guy can coach. Plus, maybe he brings Theo with him as I believe they are both currently w the lakers.

If we had Shaw, I can't picture an Oakland recruit saying no to him.

ducky23;842820513 said:

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Shaw would be a coup. There's no doubt he will be able to recruit and he's a major upgrade X's and O's wise over cuonzo. The guy can coach. Plus, maybe he brings Theo with him as I believe they are both currently w the lakers.

If we had Shaw, I can't picture an Oakland recruit saying no to him.

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Why are you certain he can recruit?

ducky23;842820513 said:

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Shaw would be a coup. There's no doubt he will be able to recruit and he's a major upgrade X's and O's wise over cuonzo. The guy can coach. Plus, maybe he brings Theo with him as I believe they are both currently w the lakers.

If we had Shaw, I can't picture an Oakland recruit saying no to him.

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Those NBA Championship rings would definitely make an impact on a recruiting visit.

ducky23;842820458 said:

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Here's my biggest issue with randy Bennett.

He's been able to exploit a market inefficiency. But like all market inefficienies, it won't last forever. The rest of your competition inevitably catches up.

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Yep. The water always finds its level.

philbert;842820091 said:

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Larry K also gets paid over $2.5M/year. I doubt if Cal is going to pay more than that to lure him here.

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He averages %2.4 over 10 years, and that is too much for Cal. Next candidate....

TheSouseFamily;842820035 said:

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Webster would follow Cuonzo, I assume. Not sure about the rest but I wouldn't want to retain any of them anyways. A new coach will need to start with a clean slate even if it means losing some guys from the class. In basketball, a team can be built up much faster than in, say, football. Plus, I've been unimpressed with the staff. anyway. S&C has been a huge weakness imo. And this is a very fundamentally unsound team and that falls, in large part, on the current assistants.

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Webster has interviewed for several HC positions, and probably will end-up a HC somewhere.

philbert;842820091 said:

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Larry K also gets paid over $2.5M/year. I doubt if Cal is going to pay more than that to lure him here.

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Yup, economics don't work.

All true, but I don't the impression that he would stay at Cal long. He is an NBA guy.

wifeisafurd;842820524 said:

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He averages %2.4 over 10 years, and that is too much for Cal. Next candidate....

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This link said he got paid $2.575M in 2016 as a base salary.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/mens-basketball/coach/

ducky23;842820513 said:

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Shaw would be a coup. There's no doubt he will be able to recruit and he's a major upgrade X's and O's wise over cuonzo. The guy can coach. Plus, maybe he brings Theo with him as I believe they are both currently w the lakers.

If we had Shaw, I can't picture an Oakland recruit saying no to him.

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Very good NBA coach. The issue is how much transfers over to college. Can he coach-up college players? Academics?

OneTopOneChickenApple;842820530 said:

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All true, but I don't the impression that he would stay at Cal long. He is an NBA guy.

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True true. He won't be a legacy coach. But I could see him being happy here for awhile. He loves Oakland. Still lives here. And if he wins and leaves maybe Theo will be ready by then (I'm hoping Shaw takes Theo with him).

As for his recruiting. You can never know for sure, obviously. But the guy is a former player, charismatic and from what I've heard, his former players love him. Hell, I believe Walton played under Shaw while with the lakers and Walton thought enough of him to bring him back. And above all else, the guy has some serious street cred. He's still somewhat of an Oakland legend. All we need to do is keep the east bay kids home and we will have all the talent we need.

wifeisafurd;842820533 said:

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Very good NBA coach. The issue is how much transfers over to college. Can he coach-up college players? Academics?

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I don't see that as an issue at this point. Yeah and I can't see why an NBA coach would leave that and come to the college level.

ducky23;842820539 said:

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True true. He won't be a legacy coach. But I could see him being happy here for awhile. He loves Oakland. Still lives here.

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He may already have enough money it's not the primary consideration. Everything you've said about him sounds great, and as a UC grad and Oakland resident he might actually want to be here.

I'd be all in on Brian Shaw if he were interested. Imagine that dude recruiting in SoCal and walking into a household.

rathokan;842820547 said:

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I'd be all in on Brian Shaw if he were interested. Imagine that dude recruiting in SoCal and walking into a household.

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No disrespect, but none of these kids know who he is. He took a 57-win Denver team from George Karl and followed that up with 36 and 20 wins (Denver pulled the plug on him before the season ended) the next two seasons. Dude tried to run the triangle in Denver with a Pick N Roll PG. I guess people want to see him bring the Triangle to college hoops. Yeah, he's from Oakland, but so is Leon Powe. Let's get "The Show" to be our coach. I understand thinking outside the box, but...Brian Shaw? If the AD making this thing more complicated than it needs to be, then we're in trouble. Hire a good coach...that can recruit...that has West Coast ties or wouldn't mind being out here...that could deal with the Cal environment. It's not rocket science.

It becomes rocket science when you throw "Cal" into the equation. :headbang

oskidunker;842820432 said:

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How about a woman coach?? Might as well try something different

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Careful with that suggestion. Cal might decide to have Lindsay Gottlieb coach both teams to save money.