Whaddaaayaa mean "not on the payroll anymore?" Did he leave us? Was he fired? I sure hope not. He brought insight and and sanity to the board.bearister said:
This stroll down memory lane convinces more than ever that EricBear, even though not on the payroll anymore, needs to be invited back for gratuitous in game comments.
bearister said:
This stroll down memory lane convinces more than ever that EricBear, even though not on the payroll anymore, needs to be invited back for gratuitous in game comments.
He ain't the only guy in this thread that oughta be invited back.bearister said:
This stroll down memory lane convinces more than ever that EricBear, even though not on the payroll anymore, needs to be invited back for gratuitous in game comments.
Pigskin Pete said:He ain't the only guy in this thread that oughta be invited back.bearister said:
This stroll down memory lane convinces more than ever that EricBear, even though not on the payroll anymore, needs to be invited back for gratuitous in game comments.
What do you call the 2000 that attend every game? I was at every game and saw them.i guess you are hoping there was only 10. Sorry to disappoint you.parentswerebears said:
People used to have a lot more hope that basketball might get better. Now, I think that there might be 10, maybe 20 people who are not employed by the university and who are not family of players who actually care about men's basketball at Cal.
oskidunker said:What do you call the 2000 that attend every game? I was at every game and saw them.i guess you are hoping there was only 10. Sorry to disappoint you.parentswerebears said:
People used to have a lot more hope that basketball might get better. Now, I think that there might be 10, maybe 20 people who are not employed by the university and who are not family of players who actually care about men's basketball at Cal.
calumnus said:oskidunker said:What do you call the 2000 that attend every game? I was at every game and saw them.i guess you are hoping there was only 10. Sorry to disappoint you.parentswerebears said:
People used to have a lot more hope that basketball might get better. Now, I think that there might be 10, maybe 20 people who are not employed by the university and who are not family of players who actually care about men's basketball at Cal.
Ie not enough to fill Harmon.
According to the official site attendance with Cuonzo as coach in 2015-2016 averaged 10,183 per game.
Wow that's surprising. Wouldn't have guessed that nearly half of the remaining fanbase at that time thought Fox was a good hire. It couldn't have been any more obvious to me that he was a horrible hire.stu said:
You and many more of us. The consensus seemed to be: W. T. F. ?
Actually there was a BI poll right after Fox was hired. It got 625 responses:
45% positive (2 choices)
28% neutral
27% negative (2 choices)
Compare that to the current poll.
PtownBear1 said:Wow that's surprising. Wouldn't have guessed that nearly half of the remaining fanbase at that time thought Fox was a good hire. It couldn't have been any more obvious to me that he was a horrible hire.stu said:
You and many more of us. The consensus seemed to be: W. T. F. ?
Actually there was a BI poll right after Fox was hired. It got 625 responses:
45% positive (2 choices)
28% neutral
27% negative (2 choices)
Compare that to the current poll.
ducky23 said:
Dare I say I might have preferred just keeping wyking over this bs
fat_slice said:ducky23 said:
Dare I say I might have preferred just keeping wyking over this bs
Wow this was called very early. When your message board fans can predict the outcome better than your AD and Chancellor, you know we have a big problem.
ducky23 said:fat_slice said:ducky23 said:
Dare I say I might have preferred just keeping wyking over this bs
Wow this was called very early. When your message board fans can predict the outcome better than your AD and Chancellor, you know we have a big problem.
You want to go back and look at what my short list looked like?
Kidd
Nate oats
TJ otzelberger
Musselman
Gates
Go look and and see how they've done the last three years. And all were reasonably gettable with a competent AD
I don't say this to look smart. I know next to nothing about college basketball coaches. And yet, my completely free Google search was superior to knowltons completely useless (but I'm sure very expensive) search firm.
CalLifer said:
Re-reading this thread was so depressing.
What's more amazing to me is just three years later, how completely dead the program is. At least when Wyking was fired there was some talent in the program, some hope that the right coach could take that talent and do what Wyking could not. Three years later, there is a cone of complete silence around the program, and the recruiting has fallen to levels not seen at Cal in a long time (maybe ever?). Again, I would have thought that this was the definition of AD malpractice if we weren't watching the AD make these moves with the full support of the administration.
calumnus said:CalLifer said:
Re-reading this thread was so depressing.
What's more amazing to me is just three years later, how completely dead the program is. At least when Wyking was fired there was some talent in the program, some hope that the right coach could take that talent and do what Wyking could not. Three years later, there is a cone of complete silence around the program, and the recruiting has fallen to levels not seen at Cal in a long time (maybe ever?). Again, I would have thought that this was the definition of AD malpractice if we weren't watching the AD make these moves with the full support of the administration.
The AD even got an unprecedented 7 year extension after the worst combined results in the revenue sports in decades.
fat_slice said:calumnus said:CalLifer said:
Re-reading this thread was so depressing.
What's more amazing to me is just three years later, how completely dead the program is. At least when Wyking was fired there was some talent in the program, some hope that the right coach could take that talent and do what Wyking could not. Three years later, there is a cone of complete silence around the program, and the recruiting has fallen to levels not seen at Cal in a long time (maybe ever?). Again, I would have thought that this was the definition of AD malpractice if we weren't watching the AD make these moves with the full support of the administration.
The AD even got an unprecedented 7 year extension after the worst combined results in the revenue sports in decades.
This is what gives me little to no hope for the future. Does anyone have any idea what warranted an extension? What were the positive changes that he brought?
Grigsby said:
This type of decision may end up as my master's thesis for my Sports Analytics and Sports Management Program.
Why AD's use search firms is beyond me. Sure studies show that collaborative work is more productive, but when the research doesn't understand the principles of what makes a great hire the collaborative process is rendered useless.
I'll be done in 2020 so if you folks want an AD with vision, and actual intuition how to make these choices then I'll be ready to push Cal forward.
Chapman_is_Gone said:
Musselman just added his 3rd 5-star recruit for his 2022 class...
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33617856/anthony-black-becomes-third-2022-five-star-prospect-commit-arkansas-men-basketball-team
All you people who still go to the games, like OskiDunker, are not helping the problem...
It is fun when predictions made three years ago are SMART ON. I wish I could pick stocks like that ;-)KenBurnski said:
This thread is so awesome. Everyone was so calm and measured and just perfectly identified how totally stupid the hire was. Thanks Knowlton.
socaltownie said:It is fun when predictions made three years ago are SMART ON. I wish I could pick stocks like that ;-)KenBurnski said:
This thread is so awesome. Everyone was so calm and measured and just perfectly identified how totally stupid the hire was. Thanks Knowlton.
I think there was one year Kyle Campanelli may have Cal's only recruit - or "best" recruit. I think Bozeman's last year he had only one recruit. But, even in the depths of the Dick years, there was hope (and pizza/beer at the Come Back Inn when Caselli was on the team and the Bears won a home game).CalLifer said:
Re-reading this thread was so depressing.
What's more amazing to me is just three years later, how completely dead the program is. At least when Wyking was fired there was some talent in the program, some hope that the right coach could take that talent and do what Wyking could not. Three years later, there is a cone of complete silence around the program, and the recruiting has fallen to levels not seen at Cal in a long time (maybe ever?). Again, I would have thought that this was the definition of AD malpractice if we weren't watching the AD make these moves with the full support of the administration.
