Vaccine Redux - Vax up and go to Class

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MinotStateBeav
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bearister said:




As I said, if you don't want the vaccine, don't get it, but do your wheezing and dying at home to help the over stressed healthcare workers.
Fine lets play that game, since Dems want to defund police, every time they get shot or mugged, you can't go to the hospital.
AunBear89
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MinotStateBeav said:

bearister said:




As I said, if you don't want the vaccine, don't get it, but do your wheezing and dying at home to help the over stressed healthcare workers.
Fine lets play that game, since Dems want to defund police, every time they get shot or mugged, you can't go to the hospital.

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
BearForce2
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bearister said:

As I said, if you don't want the vaccine, don't get it, but do your wheezing and dying at home to help the over stressed healthcare workers.


The vaccinated are spreading Covid. It's very irresponsible behavior.
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Data: N.Y. Times. Cartogram: Kavya Beheraj/Axios

Cases are on the rise from two weeks ago in 27 states, plus D.C.

There were about 530 deaths a day, down 24% from about 700 deaths a day two weeks ago.
But hospitalizations remain low.



U.S. COVID cases on the rise again


https://www.axios.com/us-covid-cases-on-the-rise-again-9af7cdb7-25b1-4b59-9896-3c0f749a179d.html
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oski003
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Literally every autoimmune problem can be triggered by an mRNA covid vaccine. It's crazy.

https://m.theepochtimes.com/reports-of-rare-vulvar-ulcers-in-adolescent-girls-following-pfizer-covid-19-injections_4404585.html
dimitrig
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oski003 said:

Literally every autoimmune problem can be triggered by an mRNA covid vaccine. It's crazy.

https://m.theepochtimes.com/reports-of-rare-vulvar-ulcers-in-adolescent-girls-following-pfizer-covid-19-injections_4404585.html

There is a well-known correlation between coronaviruses and autoimmune disorder.

Catching COVID-19 probably also causes autoimmune problems

Unit2Sucks
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dimitrig said:

oski003 said:

Literally every autoimmune problem can be triggered by an mRNA covid vaccine. It's crazy.

https://m.theepochtimes.com/reports-of-rare-vulvar-ulcers-in-adolescent-girls-following-pfizer-covid-19-injections_4404585.html

There is a well-known correlation between coronaviruses and autoimmune disorder.

Catching COVID-19 probably also causes autoimmune problems


People are always trying to put the vaccine risks in perspective of COVID, but 003 and other anti-vaxxers don't like to talk about COVID.

In other news, it turns out that anti-vaxxers really don't want to take Novavax either. It's being approved in lots of countries but mostly going to waste. It's a shame because it would be great to get some real world data on how safe and effective Novavax is over time - particularly as it looks like COVID is here to stay.

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Hundreds of thousands of doses of the Novavax coronavirus vaccine bought by the government for an estimated 15 mn may not be used and will soon be out of date, Trouw reported on Friday.

The Novavax vaccine is suitable for people who do not want a messenger RNA dose. The mRNA type of vaccine uses nanoparticles or liposomes to deliver the mRNA protein and trigger the immune system to produce antibodies.

Some 840,000 doses were bought but fewer than a thousand people have taken up the vaccine.

Since March 11, when the vaccine became available, 655 people have been vaccinated and 329 are still waiting. A health ministry spokesman told the paper the vaccines were bought to cover demand in 2022 and 2023.

According to Trouw, however, the vaccines will be out of date by August 31 of this year.

dimitrig
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I know at least one person here in the US waiting for Novavax so such people do exist but apparently there aren't many.

BearForce2
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Eastern Oregon Bear
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dimitrig said:


I know at least one person here in the US waiting for Novavax so such people do exist but apparently there aren't many.
Are you sure oski003 lives in the US?
oski003
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

dimitrig said:


I know at least one person here in the US waiting for Novavax so such people do exist but apparently there aren't many.
Are you sure oski003 lives in the US?


I got Moderna primaries and Pfizer booster because I couldn't wait for FDA.
Unit2Sucks
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There's another new vaccine on the horizon that will probably be more popular with anti-vaxxers than traditional vaccines.

blungld
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MinotStateBeav said:

bearister said:




As I said, if you don't want the vaccine, don't get it, but do your wheezing and dying at home to help the over stressed healthcare workers.
Fine lets play that game, since Dems want to defund police, every time they get shot or mugged, you can't go to the hospital.


FYI, police don't work at hospitals. Here is how your awesome metaphor would skewer the Libs and make logical sense: If you are intentionally unvaccinated you can't go to the hospital. And if you are intentionally not funding the police's crime stopping capabilities , then you can't go to the police to report a crime…but wait, New Yorkers DO fund the police. Hmmmm. In fact they pay them an unbelievable amount of money. Wait, maybe this false equivalence doesn't quite work. Give me a few minutes to come up with another really awesome own Libs smart ass ignorant comment.

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blungld said:

MinotStateBeav said:

bearister said:




As I said, if you don't want the vaccine, don't get it, but do your wheezing and dying at home to help the over stressed healthcare workers.
Fine lets play that game, since Dems want to defund police, every time they get shot or mugged, you can't go to the hospital.


FYI, police don't work at hospitals. Here is how your awesome metaphor would skewer the Libs and make logical sense: If you are intentionally unvaccinated you can't go to the hospital. And if you are intentionally not funding the police's crime stopping capabilities , then you can't go to the police to report a crime…but wait, New Yorkers DO fund the police. Hmmmm. In fact they pay them an unbelievable amount of money. Wait, maybe this false equivalence doesn't quite work. Give me a few minutes to come up with another really awesome own Libs smart ass ignorant comment.

Should people who died or were injured from the vaccines receive any hospital services?
AunBear89
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Well, the extremely low number of dead people should not go to the hospital. I would think that much should be obvious even to you.

The statistically small number of injured people should and are getting medical treatment.

Was there a point to your stupid question, or were you honestly curious?
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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okaydo said:

Hey: Question: I scheduled my booster for this weekend. I got Pfizer for the first round. I was going to get Moderna...But I had no side effects with Pfizer, and I'm scared of being bedridden and unable to work if I get the Moderna...So I'm getting Pfizer again. I googled a bunch. And there was no definitive answer on mixing and matching...But I also heard that Moderna is more effective.

Am I making the right decision?




Uh, so I posted this on March 15 and on Saturday, April 16 I finally got the booster, a Pfizer. And ended up on bedridden all day Sunday and unable to move. But I'm totally okay today.

I don't want to be Mel Kiper.

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oski003
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https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/2022/04/21/monoclonal-antibody-combo-reduces-symptomatic-covid-19-infection-risk-83

The problem is that this preventative treatment costs 4k per dose. On the plus side, mAbs can be made cheaply as dmAbs. Will AZN let this happen?
Unit2Sucks
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oski003 said:

https://www.precisionvaccinations.com/2022/04/21/monoclonal-antibody-combo-reduces-symptomatic-covid-19-infection-risk-83

The problem is that this preventative treatment costs 4k per dose. On the plus side, mAbs can be made cheaply as dmAbs. Will AZN let this happen?


Can it be produced in volume?

The fact that so many people are cool with monoclonal antibodies but have problems with COVID vaccines because they are "experimental" or "not fully approved" is pretty funny. The fact that the monoclonal antibodies were developed based on fetal tissue from abortions is just the cherry on top of the irrational cocktail from people who vehemently oppose that sort of research.
blungld
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BearForce2 said:


Should people who died or were injured from the vaccines receive any hospital services?
I don't know, should people who habitually shLtpost and have stopped entering into reasonable, problem-solving conversations be answered respectfully and taken as well-intended when they ask dumb loaded questions?

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BearForce2
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blungld said:

BearForce2 said:


Should people who died or were injured from the vaccines receive any hospital services?
I don't know, should people who habitually shLtpost and have stopped entering into reasonable, problem-solving conversations be answered respectfully and taken as well-intended when they ask dumb loaded questions?
It's a perfectly reasonable question within the context of the discussion that proposed unvaccinated people should be denied medical care.
oski003
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A different perspective on mRNA vaccines versus others and a danish study on all cause mortality data.

https://brownstone.org/articles/have-people-been-given-the-wrong-vaccine/
BearForce2
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Double Vaccinated ESPN's Kirk Herbstreit to Miss 2022 NFL Draft Due to Blood Clot

ESPN's longtime analyst and commentator Kirk Herbstreit announced on Monday that he will not be able to participate in this year's NFL draft coverage due to a blood clot.

Herbstreit announced on his Twitter account that his doctors discovered he has a blood clot and will skip the NFL draft coverage this week on the advice of his doctors.
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U.S. Seeks 'Urgent' Data on Covid Relapses After Using Pfizer's Drug

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-04-29/u-s-seeks-urgent-data-on-covid-relapses-after-pfizer-drug
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/exclusive-hundreds-of-cdc-employees-havent-had-a-covid-19-vaccine_4429636.html
dimitrig
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BearForce2 said:



https://www.theepochtimes.com/exclusive-hundreds-of-cdc-employees-havent-had-a-covid-19-vaccine_4429636.html


I am guessing the majority of them are Republicans.

BearForce2
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dimitrig said:

BearForce2 said:



https://www.theepochtimes.com/exclusive-hundreds-of-cdc-employees-havent-had-a-covid-19-vaccine_4429636.html

I am guessing the majority of them are Republicans.


Maybe they're naturally immunized.
Eastern Oregon Bear
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BearForce2 said:

dimitrig said:

BearForce2 said:



https://www.theepochtimes.com/exclusive-hundreds-of-cdc-employees-havent-had-a-covid-19-vaccine_4429636.html

I am guessing the majority of them are Republicans.


Maybe they're naturally immunized.
I think I've identified someone who's unnaturally obsessed with the health of certain groups of people.
oski003
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The Pfizer P3 vaccine trial had a ton of suspected covid cases that were never tested and therefore confirmed. Efficiency was likely much lower than reported. The court-ordered data production confirms this and Twitter is talking about it.



There is merit to this. There were more instances of trial patients having covid symptoms and NOT GETTING TESTED than actual reported positives.
oski003
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I guess JnJ has moved on from selling covid vaccines. Remember, there were danger signals in their P3. The trial investigators stopped the trial and reported such to JnJ. JnJ defended their vaccine saying it was not the vaccine. The trial concluded shortly after and the vaccine was given EUA. The FDA did not require additional participants or a new trial verifying safety, which would happen under normal circumstances or to a smaller company.

Unit2Sucks
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Ron Johnson is back saying the COVID vaccines (may) cause AIDS.

https://news.yahoo.com/u-senator-says-may-true-233002349.html

calbear93
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Unit2Sucks said:

Ron Johnson is back saying the COVID vaccines (may) cause AIDS.

https://news.yahoo.com/u-senator-says-may-true-233002349.html


Well, he needs to explain to his wife how he got it.
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calbear93 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

Ron Johnson is back saying the COVID vaccines (may) cause AIDS.

https://news.yahoo.com/u-senator-says-may-true-233002349.html


Well, he needs to explain to his wife how he got it.


Ha! At least scientists have figured out how to more or less cure AIDS. When you think back to the day Magic announced he was HIV positive, it's amazing that we've basically eliminated it as a threat to our public health.
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Unit2Sucks said:

calbear93 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

Ron Johnson is back saying the COVID vaccines (may) cause AIDS.

https://news.yahoo.com/u-senator-says-may-true-233002349.html


Well, he needs to explain to his wife how he got it.


Ha! At least scientists have figured out how to more or less cure AIDS. When you think back to the day Magic announced he was HIV positive, it's amazing that we've basically eliminated it as a threat to our public health.


It is. We may not have gotten the vaccine that Fauci predicted but we are so much better off than when Magic Johnson and Rock Hudson or even Fred Mercury got the virus.
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