Vaccine Redux - Vax up and go to Class

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sycasey
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Unit2Sucks said:

dajo9 said:


From January to present this probably looks a lot like a graph of vaccination. Sad to see so many fall prey to the death cult and anti-vaxx dissembling, the likes of which we see even on BI. Almost like stochastic suicide at a population level.

Another thing you see here is that the low Trump vote areas got more death early on (presumably these are dense, high-population cities). So the people in those places learned quickly that COVID-19 was no joke. People in rural areas were in denial and remain so.
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sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

dajo9 said:


From January to present this probably looks a lot like a graph of vaccination. Sad to see so many fall prey to the death cult and anti-vaxx dissembling, the likes of which we see even on BI. Almost like stochastic suicide at a population level.

Another thing you see here is that the low Trump vote areas got more death early on (presumably these are dense, high-population cities). So the people in those places learned quickly that COVID-19 was no joke. People in rural areas were in denial and remain so.
Yup. And now COVID is the leading cause of death for unvaccinated people under 65.

I can't break this out by vaxxed/unvaxxed, but according to CDC data, about 20% of all deaths in people between 15 and 64 in September and October were from COVID - around 33k died of COVID out of ~120k total deaths.

Keep in mind that virtually all of the COVID deaths are amongst unvaxxed whereas the non-COVID deaths are presumably more evenly distributed. So you would expect about 35k unvaccinated people to have died in that age cohort since the beginning of September, but it's almost double that, due to COVID.

In other words, almost half of all deaths in unvaccinated people between 15 and 64 is from COVID (~33k out of ~68k total). So not only is COVID by far the leading cause of deaths in this unvaccinated group, it's almost a bigger killer than all other causes combined.

Meanwhile, no one is dying from the vaccines but we have a massive misinformation campaign being deployed to quibble about one side effect (myocarditis) that is far more prevalent in COVID itself, and while COVID is still killing tens of thousands of unvaxxed adults per month.
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Unit2Sucks said:

sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

dajo9 said:


From January to present this probably looks a lot like a graph of vaccination. Sad to see so many fall prey to the death cult and anti-vaxx dissembling, the likes of which we see even on BI. Almost like stochastic suicide at a population level.

Another thing you see here is that the low Trump vote areas got more death early on (presumably these are dense, high-population cities). So the people in those places learned quickly that COVID-19 was no joke. People in rural areas were in denial and remain so.
Yup. And now COVID is the leading cause of death for unvaccinated people under 65.

I can't break this out by vaxxed/unvaxxed, but according to CDC data, about 20% of all deaths in people between 15 and 64 in September and October were from COVID - around 33k died of COVID out of ~120k total deaths.

Keep in mind that virtually all of the COVID deaths are amongst unvaxxed whereas the non-COVID deaths are presumably more evenly distributed. So you would expect about 35k unvaccinated people to have died in that age cohort since the beginning of September, but it's almost double that, due to COVID.

In other words, almost half of all deaths in unvaccinated people between 15 and 64 is from COVID (~33k out of ~68k total). So not only is COVID by far the leading cause of deaths in this unvaccinated group, it's almost a bigger killer than all other causes combined.

Meanwhile, no one is dying from the vaccines but we have a massive misinformation campaign being deployed to quibble about one side effect (myocarditis) that is far more prevalent in COVID itself, and while COVID is still killing tens of thousands of unvaxxed adults per month.



"Meanwhile, no one is dying from the vaccines"

This is a lie. Nothing else you just wrote is an outright lie but is well-intentioned. Almost every adult should get vaccinated with the available vaccines.
Unit2Sucks
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oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

dajo9 said:


From January to present this probably looks a lot like a graph of vaccination. Sad to see so many fall prey to the death cult and anti-vaxx dissembling, the likes of which we see even on BI. Almost like stochastic suicide at a population level.

Another thing you see here is that the low Trump vote areas got more death early on (presumably these are dense, high-population cities). So the people in those places learned quickly that COVID-19 was no joke. People in rural areas were in denial and remain so.
Yup. And now COVID is the leading cause of death for unvaccinated people under 65.

I can't break this out by vaxxed/unvaxxed, but according to CDC data, about 20% of all deaths in people between 15 and 64 in September and October were from COVID - around 33k died of COVID out of ~120k total deaths.

Keep in mind that virtually all of the COVID deaths are amongst unvaxxed whereas the non-COVID deaths are presumably more evenly distributed. So you would expect about 35k unvaccinated people to have died in that age cohort since the beginning of September, but it's almost double that, due to COVID.

In other words, almost half of all deaths in unvaccinated people between 15 and 64 is from COVID (~33k out of ~68k total). So not only is COVID by far the leading cause of deaths in this unvaccinated group, it's almost a bigger killer than all other causes combined.

Meanwhile, no one is dying from the vaccines but we have a massive misinformation campaign being deployed to quibble about one side effect (myocarditis) that is far more prevalent in COVID itself, and while COVID is still killing tens of thousands of unvaxxed adults per month.



"Meanwhile, no one is dying from the vaccines"

This is a lie. Nothing else you just wrote is an outright lie but is well-intentioned. Almost every adult should get vaccinated with the available vaccines.
Apologies, I should have been clear that it's "virtually" no one. How many people have died from the vaccine in the US in the last 2 months? Have you found a single example?

Over 30k unvaccinated have died of COVID since the beginning of September.
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I found this article useful for focusing my thinking on the anecdotal examples often brought by the anti-vax crew.



Media tendency towards sensationalism makes it seem like vaccine refusals are more common than they really are. You could say the same about breakthrough infections or vaccine side effects. Media will report on the most scary-sounding ones, not on the vastly larger group of people who had no issues at all.
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Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

dajo9 said:


From January to present this probably looks a lot like a graph of vaccination. Sad to see so many fall prey to the death cult and anti-vaxx dissembling, the likes of which we see even on BI. Almost like stochastic suicide at a population level.

Another thing you see here is that the low Trump vote areas got more death early on (presumably these are dense, high-population cities). So the people in those places learned quickly that COVID-19 was no joke. People in rural areas were in denial and remain so.
Yup. And now COVID is the leading cause of death for unvaccinated people under 65.

I can't break this out by vaxxed/unvaxxed, but according to CDC data, about 20% of all deaths in people between 15 and 64 in September and October were from COVID - around 33k died of COVID out of ~120k total deaths.

Keep in mind that virtually all of the COVID deaths are amongst unvaxxed whereas the non-COVID deaths are presumably more evenly distributed. So you would expect about 35k unvaccinated people to have died in that age cohort since the beginning of September, but it's almost double that, due to COVID.

In other words, almost half of all deaths in unvaccinated people between 15 and 64 is from COVID (~33k out of ~68k total). So not only is COVID by far the leading cause of deaths in this unvaccinated group, it's almost a bigger killer than all other causes combined.

Meanwhile, no one is dying from the vaccines but we have a massive misinformation campaign being deployed to quibble about one side effect (myocarditis) that is far more prevalent in COVID itself, and while COVID is still killing tens of thousands of unvaxxed adults per month.



"Meanwhile, no one is dying from the vaccines"

This is a lie. Nothing else you just wrote is an outright lie but is well-intentioned. Almost every adult should get vaccinated with the available vaccines.
Apologies, I should have been clear that it's "virtually" no one. How many people have died from the vaccine in the US in the last 2 months? Have you found a single example?

Over 30k unvaccinated have died of COVID since the beginning of September.


2:12:30 to 2:18:30. Jaw dropping, sad, and disgusting. End justifies the means.
There are 1000s of vaccine related deaths in VAERS.

Listen to her story even if you don't like the Senator.
Unit2Sucks
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oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

dajo9 said:


From January to present this probably looks a lot like a graph of vaccination. Sad to see so many fall prey to the death cult and anti-vaxx dissembling, the likes of which we see even on BI. Almost like stochastic suicide at a population level.

Another thing you see here is that the low Trump vote areas got more death early on (presumably these are dense, high-population cities). So the people in those places learned quickly that COVID-19 was no joke. People in rural areas were in denial and remain so.
Yup. And now COVID is the leading cause of death for unvaccinated people under 65.

I can't break this out by vaxxed/unvaxxed, but according to CDC data, about 20% of all deaths in people between 15 and 64 in September and October were from COVID - around 33k died of COVID out of ~120k total deaths.

Keep in mind that virtually all of the COVID deaths are amongst unvaxxed whereas the non-COVID deaths are presumably more evenly distributed. So you would expect about 35k unvaccinated people to have died in that age cohort since the beginning of September, but it's almost double that, due to COVID.

In other words, almost half of all deaths in unvaccinated people between 15 and 64 is from COVID (~33k out of ~68k total). So not only is COVID by far the leading cause of deaths in this unvaccinated group, it's almost a bigger killer than all other causes combined.

Meanwhile, no one is dying from the vaccines but we have a massive misinformation campaign being deployed to quibble about one side effect (myocarditis) that is far more prevalent in COVID itself, and while COVID is still killing tens of thousands of unvaxxed adults per month.



"Meanwhile, no one is dying from the vaccines"

This is a lie. Nothing else you just wrote is an outright lie but is well-intentioned. Almost every adult should get vaccinated with the available vaccines.
Apologies, I should have been clear that it's "virtually" no one. How many people have died from the vaccine in the US in the last 2 months? Have you found a single example?

Over 30k unvaccinated have died of COVID since the beginning of September.



There are 1000s of vaccine related deaths in VAERS.

Listen to her story even if you don't like the Senator.
More dangerous disinformation from our neighborhood anti-vaxxer. You know very well that VAERS does not list a single verified vaccine related death but you continue to intentionally spread that garbage because it promotes your agenda.

If there were really thousands of deaths caused by vaccines, you would be able to prove it and yet you can't even find a single one in the last two months. The number is much closer to 0 than it is to thousands. Ron Johnson knows it (and has acknowledged that VAERS can't be used that way) and you know it as well.

By the way, how many hundreds of thousands of unvaccinated Americans have died of COVID since Johnson's testimony? 200k? 300k? The number of unnecessary deaths is staggering and will continue as long as people fall for disinformation being spread by people like you. How many more people have to die because anti-vaxxers are afraid of science?

oski003
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Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

dajo9 said:


From January to present this probably looks a lot like a graph of vaccination. Sad to see so many fall prey to the death cult and anti-vaxx dissembling, the likes of which we see even on BI. Almost like stochastic suicide at a population level.

Another thing you see here is that the low Trump vote areas got more death early on (presumably these are dense, high-population cities). So the people in those places learned quickly that COVID-19 was no joke. People in rural areas were in denial and remain so.
Yup. And now COVID is the leading cause of death for unvaccinated people under 65.

I can't break this out by vaxxed/unvaxxed, but according to CDC data, about 20% of all deaths in people between 15 and 64 in September and October were from COVID - around 33k died of COVID out of ~120k total deaths.

Keep in mind that virtually all of the COVID deaths are amongst unvaxxed whereas the non-COVID deaths are presumably more evenly distributed. So you would expect about 35k unvaccinated people to have died in that age cohort since the beginning of September, but it's almost double that, due to COVID.

In other words, almost half of all deaths in unvaccinated people between 15 and 64 is from COVID (~33k out of ~68k total). So not only is COVID by far the leading cause of deaths in this unvaccinated group, it's almost a bigger killer than all other causes combined.

Meanwhile, no one is dying from the vaccines but we have a massive misinformation campaign being deployed to quibble about one side effect (myocarditis) that is far more prevalent in COVID itself, and while COVID is still killing tens of thousands of unvaxxed adults per month.



"Meanwhile, no one is dying from the vaccines"

This is a lie. Nothing else you just wrote is an outright lie but is well-intentioned. Almost every adult should get vaccinated with the available vaccines.
Apologies, I should have been clear that it's "virtually" no one. How many people have died from the vaccine in the US in the last 2 months? Have you found a single example?

Over 30k unvaccinated have died of COVID since the beginning of September.



There are 1000s of vaccine related deaths in VAERS.

Listen to her story even if you don't like the Senator.
More dangerous disinformation from our neighborhood anti-vaxxer. You know very well that VAERS does not list a single verified vaccine related death but you continue to intentionally spread that garbage because it promotes your agenda.

If there were really thousands of deaths caused by vaccines, you would be able to prove it and yet you can't even find a single one in the last two months. The number is much closer to 0 than it is to thousands. Ron Johnson knows it (and has acknowledged that VAERS can't be used that way) and you know it as well.

By the way, how many hundreds of thousands of unvaccinated Americans have died of COVID since Johnson's testimony? 200k? 300k? The number of unnecessary deaths is staggering and will continue as long as people fall for disinformation being spread by people like you. How many more people have to die because anti-vaxxers are afraid of science?




Did you watch the suggested portion of the video? Get off your pulpit. It addresses what you just wrote.

Stop the accusations. It is ridiculous.
Unit2Sucks
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oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

dajo9 said:


From January to present this probably looks a lot like a graph of vaccination. Sad to see so many fall prey to the death cult and anti-vaxx dissembling, the likes of which we see even on BI. Almost like stochastic suicide at a population level.

Another thing you see here is that the low Trump vote areas got more death early on (presumably these are dense, high-population cities). So the people in those places learned quickly that COVID-19 was no joke. People in rural areas were in denial and remain so.
Yup. And now COVID is the leading cause of death for unvaccinated people under 65.

I can't break this out by vaxxed/unvaxxed, but according to CDC data, about 20% of all deaths in people between 15 and 64 in September and October were from COVID - around 33k died of COVID out of ~120k total deaths.

Keep in mind that virtually all of the COVID deaths are amongst unvaxxed whereas the non-COVID deaths are presumably more evenly distributed. So you would expect about 35k unvaccinated people to have died in that age cohort since the beginning of September, but it's almost double that, due to COVID.

In other words, almost half of all deaths in unvaccinated people between 15 and 64 is from COVID (~33k out of ~68k total). So not only is COVID by far the leading cause of deaths in this unvaccinated group, it's almost a bigger killer than all other causes combined.

Meanwhile, no one is dying from the vaccines but we have a massive misinformation campaign being deployed to quibble about one side effect (myocarditis) that is far more prevalent in COVID itself, and while COVID is still killing tens of thousands of unvaxxed adults per month.



"Meanwhile, no one is dying from the vaccines"

This is a lie. Nothing else you just wrote is an outright lie but is well-intentioned. Almost every adult should get vaccinated with the available vaccines.
Apologies, I should have been clear that it's "virtually" no one. How many people have died from the vaccine in the US in the last 2 months? Have you found a single example?

Over 30k unvaccinated have died of COVID since the beginning of September.



There are 1000s of vaccine related deaths in VAERS.

Listen to her story even if you don't like the Senator.
More dangerous disinformation from our neighborhood anti-vaxxer. You know very well that VAERS does not list a single verified vaccine related death but you continue to intentionally spread that garbage because it promotes your agenda.

If there were really thousands of deaths caused by vaccines, you would be able to prove it and yet you can't even find a single one in the last two months. The number is much closer to 0 than it is to thousands. Ron Johnson knows it (and has acknowledged that VAERS can't be used that way) and you know it as well.

By the way, how many hundreds of thousands of unvaccinated Americans have died of COVID since Johnson's testimony? 200k? 300k? The number of unnecessary deaths is staggering and will continue as long as people fall for disinformation being spread by people like you. How many more people have to die because anti-vaxxers are afraid of science?




Did you watch the suggested portion of the video? Get off your pulpit. It addresses what you just wrote.

Stop the accusations. It is ridiculous.


Spare us the hysterics. You continue to post garbage that you know isn't true. Tens of millions of adolescents have been vaccinated in this countrt and who knows how many the world over. There aren't thousands of deaths. There aren't hundreds of deaths. You can't even find one confirmed death linked to Pfizer or Moderna in the US and yet you continue to fear monger about unverified reports from VAERS, many of which we know were falsely submitted by anti-vaxxers and other losers. No video is going to change that.

Maybe you would be better off on some dark corner of the interwebs where misinformation is appreciated.
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Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

dajo9 said:


From January to present this probably looks a lot like a graph of vaccination. Sad to see so many fall prey to the death cult and anti-vaxx dissembling, the likes of which we see even on BI. Almost like stochastic suicide at a population level.

Another thing you see here is that the low Trump vote areas got more death early on (presumably these are dense, high-population cities). So the people in those places learned quickly that COVID-19 was no joke. People in rural areas were in denial and remain so.
Yup. And now COVID is the leading cause of death for unvaccinated people under 65.

I can't break this out by vaxxed/unvaxxed, but according to CDC data, about 20% of all deaths in people between 15 and 64 in September and October were from COVID - around 33k died of COVID out of ~120k total deaths.

Keep in mind that virtually all of the COVID deaths are amongst unvaxxed whereas the non-COVID deaths are presumably more evenly distributed. So you would expect about 35k unvaccinated people to have died in that age cohort since the beginning of September, but it's almost double that, due to COVID.

In other words, almost half of all deaths in unvaccinated people between 15 and 64 is from COVID (~33k out of ~68k total). So not only is COVID by far the leading cause of deaths in this unvaccinated group, it's almost a bigger killer than all other causes combined.

Meanwhile, no one is dying from the vaccines but we have a massive misinformation campaign being deployed to quibble about one side effect (myocarditis) that is far more prevalent in COVID itself, and while COVID is still killing tens of thousands of unvaxxed adults per month.



"Meanwhile, no one is dying from the vaccines"

This is a lie. Nothing else you just wrote is an outright lie but is well-intentioned. Almost every adult should get vaccinated with the available vaccines.
Apologies, I should have been clear that it's "virtually" no one. How many people have died from the vaccine in the US in the last 2 months? Have you found a single example?

Over 30k unvaccinated have died of COVID since the beginning of September.



There are 1000s of vaccine related deaths in VAERS.

Listen to her story even if you don't like the Senator.
More dangerous disinformation from our neighborhood anti-vaxxer. You know very well that VAERS does not list a single verified vaccine related death but you continue to intentionally spread that garbage because it promotes your agenda.

If there were really thousands of deaths caused by vaccines, you would be able to prove it and yet you can't even find a single one in the last two months. The number is much closer to 0 than it is to thousands. Ron Johnson knows it (and has acknowledged that VAERS can't be used that way) and you know it as well.

By the way, how many hundreds of thousands of unvaccinated Americans have died of COVID since Johnson's testimony? 200k? 300k? The number of unnecessary deaths is staggering and will continue as long as people fall for disinformation being spread by people like you. How many more people have to die because anti-vaxxers are afraid of science?




Did you watch the suggested portion of the video? Get off your pulpit. It addresses what you just wrote.

Stop the accusations. It is ridiculous.


Spare us the hysterics. You continue to post garbage that you know isn't true. Tens of millions of adolescents have been vaccinated in this countrt and who knows how many the world over. There aren't thousands of deaths. There aren't hundreds of deaths. You can't even find one confirmed death linked to Pfizer or Moderna in the US and yet you continue to fear monger about unverified reports from VAERS, many of which we know were falsely submitted by anti-vaxxers and other losers. No video is going to change that.

Maybe you would be better off on some dark corner of the interwebs where misinformation is appreciated.


What are your thoughts on the video? Again, get off your high horse.
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oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

dajo9 said:


From January to present this probably looks a lot like a graph of vaccination. Sad to see so many fall prey to the death cult and anti-vaxx dissembling, the likes of which we see even on BI. Almost like stochastic suicide at a population level.

Another thing you see here is that the low Trump vote areas got more death early on (presumably these are dense, high-population cities). So the people in those places learned quickly that COVID-19 was no joke. People in rural areas were in denial and remain so.
Yup. And now COVID is the leading cause of death for unvaccinated people under 65.

I can't break this out by vaxxed/unvaxxed, but according to CDC data, about 20% of all deaths in people between 15 and 64 in September and October were from COVID - around 33k died of COVID out of ~120k total deaths.

Keep in mind that virtually all of the COVID deaths are amongst unvaxxed whereas the non-COVID deaths are presumably more evenly distributed. So you would expect about 35k unvaccinated people to have died in that age cohort since the beginning of September, but it's almost double that, due to COVID.

In other words, almost half of all deaths in unvaccinated people between 15 and 64 is from COVID (~33k out of ~68k total). So not only is COVID by far the leading cause of deaths in this unvaccinated group, it's almost a bigger killer than all other causes combined.

Meanwhile, no one is dying from the vaccines but we have a massive misinformation campaign being deployed to quibble about one side effect (myocarditis) that is far more prevalent in COVID itself, and while COVID is still killing tens of thousands of unvaxxed adults per month.



"Meanwhile, no one is dying from the vaccines"

This is a lie. Nothing else you just wrote is an outright lie but is well-intentioned. Almost every adult should get vaccinated with the available vaccines.
Apologies, I should have been clear that it's "virtually" no one. How many people have died from the vaccine in the US in the last 2 months? Have you found a single example?

Over 30k unvaccinated have died of COVID since the beginning of September.



There are 1000s of vaccine related deaths in VAERS.

Listen to her story even if you don't like the Senator.
More dangerous disinformation from our neighborhood anti-vaxxer. You know very well that VAERS does not list a single verified vaccine related death but you continue to intentionally spread that garbage because it promotes your agenda.

If there were really thousands of deaths caused by vaccines, you would be able to prove it and yet you can't even find a single one in the last two months. The number is much closer to 0 than it is to thousands. Ron Johnson knows it (and has acknowledged that VAERS can't be used that way) and you know it as well.

By the way, how many hundreds of thousands of unvaccinated Americans have died of COVID since Johnson's testimony? 200k? 300k? The number of unnecessary deaths is staggering and will continue as long as people fall for disinformation being spread by people like you. How many more people have to die because anti-vaxxers are afraid of science?




Did you watch the suggested portion of the video? Get off your pulpit. It addresses what you just wrote.

Stop the accusations. It is ridiculous.


Spare us the hysterics. You continue to post garbage that you know isn't true. Tens of millions of adolescents have been vaccinated in this countrt and who knows how many the world over. There aren't thousands of deaths. There aren't hundreds of deaths. You can't even find one confirmed death linked to Pfizer or Moderna in the US and yet you continue to fear monger about unverified reports from VAERS, many of which we know were falsely submitted by anti-vaxxers and other losers. No video is going to change that.

Maybe you would be better off on some dark corner of the interwebs where misinformation is appreciated.


What are your thoughts on the video? Again, get off your high horse.
She's not dead. She also doesn't appear to be as impaired as she claimed to be in earlier news stories.
Unit2Sucks
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

sycasey said:

Unit2Sucks said:

dajo9 said:


From January to present this probably looks a lot like a graph of vaccination. Sad to see so many fall prey to the death cult and anti-vaxx dissembling, the likes of which we see even on BI. Almost like stochastic suicide at a population level.

Another thing you see here is that the low Trump vote areas got more death early on (presumably these are dense, high-population cities). So the people in those places learned quickly that COVID-19 was no joke. People in rural areas were in denial and remain so.
Yup. And now COVID is the leading cause of death for unvaccinated people under 65.

I can't break this out by vaxxed/unvaxxed, but according to CDC data, about 20% of all deaths in people between 15 and 64 in September and October were from COVID - around 33k died of COVID out of ~120k total deaths.

Keep in mind that virtually all of the COVID deaths are amongst unvaxxed whereas the non-COVID deaths are presumably more evenly distributed. So you would expect about 35k unvaccinated people to have died in that age cohort since the beginning of September, but it's almost double that, due to COVID.

In other words, almost half of all deaths in unvaccinated people between 15 and 64 is from COVID (~33k out of ~68k total). So not only is COVID by far the leading cause of deaths in this unvaccinated group, it's almost a bigger killer than all other causes combined.

Meanwhile, no one is dying from the vaccines but we have a massive misinformation campaign being deployed to quibble about one side effect (myocarditis) that is far more prevalent in COVID itself, and while COVID is still killing tens of thousands of unvaxxed adults per month.



"Meanwhile, no one is dying from the vaccines"

This is a lie. Nothing else you just wrote is an outright lie but is well-intentioned. Almost every adult should get vaccinated with the available vaccines.
Apologies, I should have been clear that it's "virtually" no one. How many people have died from the vaccine in the US in the last 2 months? Have you found a single example?

Over 30k unvaccinated have died of COVID since the beginning of September.



There are 1000s of vaccine related deaths in VAERS.

Listen to her story even if you don't like the Senator.
More dangerous disinformation from our neighborhood anti-vaxxer. You know very well that VAERS does not list a single verified vaccine related death but you continue to intentionally spread that garbage because it promotes your agenda.

If there were really thousands of deaths caused by vaccines, you would be able to prove it and yet you can't even find a single one in the last two months. The number is much closer to 0 than it is to thousands. Ron Johnson knows it (and has acknowledged that VAERS can't be used that way) and you know it as well.

By the way, how many hundreds of thousands of unvaccinated Americans have died of COVID since Johnson's testimony? 200k? 300k? The number of unnecessary deaths is staggering and will continue as long as people fall for disinformation being spread by people like you. How many more people have to die because anti-vaxxers are afraid of science?




Did you watch the suggested portion of the video? Get off your pulpit. It addresses what you just wrote.

Stop the accusations. It is ridiculous.


Spare us the hysterics. You continue to post garbage that you know isn't true. Tens of millions of adolescents have been vaccinated in this countrt and who knows how many the world over. There aren't thousands of deaths. There aren't hundreds of deaths. You can't even find one confirmed death linked to Pfizer or Moderna in the US and yet you continue to fear monger about unverified reports from VAERS, many of which we know were falsely submitted by anti-vaxxers and other losers. No video is going to change that.

Maybe you would be better off on some dark corner of the interwebs where misinformation is appreciated.


What are your thoughts on the video? Again, get off your high horse.
She's not dead. She also doesn't appear to be as impaired as she claimed to be in earlier news stories.
It's a really sad story. Although I have no idea what's going on with her case and why she had the reaction she did (or if it was coincidental), I hope Pfizer/the government takes care of her and her family.

Tens of millions of adolescents have now been vaccinated and her story is quite unique - I'm not aware of any other actual reports like hers (VAERS unverified reports don't count). The vaccine is very safe for children and her story doesn't change that. Anyone choosing to avoid vaccination because one of tens of millions had a bad reaction while ignoring that hundreds of children have died of COVID is bad at math and is making a poor risk assessment. Many Americans have and will continue to make poor risk assessments, particularly by falling prey to the sort of dangerous anti-vax misinformation being spread by people in this country.
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oh look, another ivermectin fraudulent study retracted.


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https://thecovidworld.com/florian-dagoury-world-record-holder-in-static-breath-hold-freediving-diagnosed-with-myopericarditis-after-pfizer-vaccine-possible-end-of-career/

Let me guess... He would have gotten covid, and it would have ended his career anyway? Shaking my head... Bring on safer vaccines.
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oski003 said:

https://thecovidworld.com/florian-dagoury-world-record-holder-in-static-breath-hold-freediving-diagnosed-with-myopericarditis-after-pfizer-vaccine-possible-end-of-career/

Let me guess... He would have gotten covid, and it would have ended his career anyway? Shaking my head... Bring on safer vaccines.
What makes you think his breath holding career is over? Your link says he's still able to hold his breath for 8 minutes and he's still recovering so this sounds a bit alarmist.

For a world class athlete like him, probably would have been a good idea to wait a week or two before resuming activity. Hopefully he fully recovers and has no further complications. His story is pretty unique given what type of stress I would imagine holding your breath for 10+ minutes does to your body.

As to your question, yes, he was more likely to contract myocarditis from COVID than the vaccine, particularly if he were to start training before he recovered. The fact that he appears to have received it from the vaccine doesn't change anything. I would also note that it says he was diagnosed 40 days after his second dose so it's not entirely clear what's going on here. He may have inadvertently exacerbated his condition by not checking with his doctor as soon as he noticed difficulties. Hopefully he will fully recover like the vast majority of myocarditis patients.
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Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

https://thecovidworld.com/florian-dagoury-world-record-holder-in-static-breath-hold-freediving-diagnosed-with-myopericarditis-after-pfizer-vaccine-possible-end-of-career/

Let me guess... He would have gotten covid, and it would have ended his career anyway? Shaking my head... Bring on safer vaccines.
What makes you think his breath holding career is over? Your link says he's still able to hold his breath for 8 minutes and he's still recovering so this sounds a bit alarmist.

For a world class athlete like him, probably would have been a good idea to wait a week or two before resuming activity. Hopefully he fully recovers and has no further complications. His story is pretty unique given what type of stress I would imagine holding your breath for 10+ minutes does to your body.

As to your question, yes, he was more likely to contract myocarditis from COVID than the vaccine, particularly if he were to start training before he recovered. The fact that he appears to have received it from the vaccine doesn't change anything. I would also note that it says he was diagnosed 40 days after his second dose so it's not entirely clear what's going on here. He may have inadvertently exacerbated his condition by not checking with his doctor as soon as he noticed difficulties. Hopefully he will fully recover like the vast majority of myocarditis patients.



He didn't take adequate post mrna vaccine precautions. Got it.

By the way, my friend, a physician, just got an ER patient who got vaccinated but then sawed off his arm to remove "the chip.". Crazy.
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oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

https://thecovidworld.com/florian-dagoury-world-record-holder-in-static-breath-hold-freediving-diagnosed-with-myopericarditis-after-pfizer-vaccine-possible-end-of-career/

Let me guess... He would have gotten covid, and it would have ended his career anyway? Shaking my head... Bring on safer vaccines.
What makes you think his breath holding career is over? Your link says he's still able to hold his breath for 8 minutes and he's still recovering so this sounds a bit alarmist.

For a world class athlete like him, probably would have been a good idea to wait a week or two before resuming activity. Hopefully he fully recovers and has no further complications. His story is pretty unique given what type of stress I would imagine holding your breath for 10+ minutes does to your body.

As to your question, yes, he was more likely to contract myocarditis from COVID than the vaccine, particularly if he were to start training before he recovered. The fact that he appears to have received it from the vaccine doesn't change anything. I would also note that it says he was diagnosed 40 days after his second dose so it's not entirely clear what's going on here. He may have inadvertently exacerbated his condition by not checking with his doctor as soon as he noticed difficulties. Hopefully he will fully recover like the vast majority of myocarditis patients.



By the way, my friend, a physician, just got an ER patient who got vaccinated but then sawed off his arm to remove "the chip.". Crazy.
Are you serious? I guess that's a pretty good example of the dangers of anti-vaccine misinformation. That is a pretty high price to pay for falling victim to hucksters.
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Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

https://thecovidworld.com/florian-dagoury-world-record-holder-in-static-breath-hold-freediving-diagnosed-with-myopericarditis-after-pfizer-vaccine-possible-end-of-career/

Let me guess... He would have gotten covid, and it would have ended his career anyway? Shaking my head... Bring on safer vaccines.
What makes you think his breath holding career is over? Your link says he's still able to hold his breath for 8 minutes and he's still recovering so this sounds a bit alarmist.

For a world class athlete like him, probably would have been a good idea to wait a week or two before resuming activity. Hopefully he fully recovers and has no further complications. His story is pretty unique given what type of stress I would imagine holding your breath for 10+ minutes does to your body.

As to your question, yes, he was more likely to contract myocarditis from COVID than the vaccine, particularly if he were to start training before he recovered. The fact that he appears to have received it from the vaccine doesn't change anything. I would also note that it says he was diagnosed 40 days after his second dose so it's not entirely clear what's going on here. He may have inadvertently exacerbated his condition by not checking with his doctor as soon as he noticed difficulties. Hopefully he will fully recover like the vast majority of myocarditis patients.



By the way, my friend, a physician, just got an ER patient who got vaccinated but then sawed off his arm to remove "the chip.". Crazy.
Are you serious? I guess that's a pretty good example of the dangers of anti-vaccine misinformation. That is a pretty high price to pay for falling victim to hucksters.


Yup. Also a high price to pay for government dishonesty .
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oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

https://thecovidworld.com/florian-dagoury-world-record-holder-in-static-breath-hold-freediving-diagnosed-with-myopericarditis-after-pfizer-vaccine-possible-end-of-career/

Let me guess... He would have gotten covid, and it would have ended his career anyway? Shaking my head... Bring on safer vaccines.
What makes you think his breath holding career is over? Your link says he's still able to hold his breath for 8 minutes and he's still recovering so this sounds a bit alarmist.

For a world class athlete like him, probably would have been a good idea to wait a week or two before resuming activity. Hopefully he fully recovers and has no further complications. His story is pretty unique given what type of stress I would imagine holding your breath for 10+ minutes does to your body.

As to your question, yes, he was more likely to contract myocarditis from COVID than the vaccine, particularly if he were to start training before he recovered. The fact that he appears to have received it from the vaccine doesn't change anything. I would also note that it says he was diagnosed 40 days after his second dose so it's not entirely clear what's going on here. He may have inadvertently exacerbated his condition by not checking with his doctor as soon as he noticed difficulties. Hopefully he will fully recover like the vast majority of myocarditis patients.



By the way, my friend, a physician, just got an ER patient who got vaccinated but then sawed off his arm to remove "the chip.". Crazy.
Are you serious? I guess that's a pretty good example of the dangers of anti-vaccine misinformation. That is a pretty high price to pay for falling victim to hucksters.


Yup. Also a high price to pay for government dishonesty .
At some point, idiots have got to take responsibility for their idiotic decisions.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

https://thecovidworld.com/florian-dagoury-world-record-holder-in-static-breath-hold-freediving-diagnosed-with-myopericarditis-after-pfizer-vaccine-possible-end-of-career/

Let me guess... He would have gotten covid, and it would have ended his career anyway? Shaking my head... Bring on safer vaccines.
What makes you think his breath holding career is over? Your link says he's still able to hold his breath for 8 minutes and he's still recovering so this sounds a bit alarmist.

For a world class athlete like him, probably would have been a good idea to wait a week or two before resuming activity. Hopefully he fully recovers and has no further complications. His story is pretty unique given what type of stress I would imagine holding your breath for 10+ minutes does to your body.

As to your question, yes, he was more likely to contract myocarditis from COVID than the vaccine, particularly if he were to start training before he recovered. The fact that he appears to have received it from the vaccine doesn't change anything. I would also note that it says he was diagnosed 40 days after his second dose so it's not entirely clear what's going on here. He may have inadvertently exacerbated his condition by not checking with his doctor as soon as he noticed difficulties. Hopefully he will fully recover like the vast majority of myocarditis patients.



By the way, my friend, a physician, just got an ER patient who got vaccinated but then sawed off his arm to remove "the chip.". Crazy.
Are you serious? I guess that's a pretty good example of the dangers of anti-vaccine misinformation. That is a pretty high price to pay for falling victim to hucksters.


Yup. Also a high price to pay for government dishonesty .
At some point, idiots have got to take responsibility for their idiotic decisions.
Indeed. I'm sorry, but no amount of government politicking/dishonesty accounts for believing this nonsense about a tracking chip.

Especially if you're someone who also carries a cell phone around with you all day.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

https://thecovidworld.com/florian-dagoury-world-record-holder-in-static-breath-hold-freediving-diagnosed-with-myopericarditis-after-pfizer-vaccine-possible-end-of-career/

Let me guess... He would have gotten covid, and it would have ended his career anyway? Shaking my head... Bring on safer vaccines.
What makes you think his breath holding career is over? Your link says he's still able to hold his breath for 8 minutes and he's still recovering so this sounds a bit alarmist.

For a world class athlete like him, probably would have been a good idea to wait a week or two before resuming activity. Hopefully he fully recovers and has no further complications. His story is pretty unique given what type of stress I would imagine holding your breath for 10+ minutes does to your body.

As to your question, yes, he was more likely to contract myocarditis from COVID than the vaccine, particularly if he were to start training before he recovered. The fact that he appears to have received it from the vaccine doesn't change anything. I would also note that it says he was diagnosed 40 days after his second dose so it's not entirely clear what's going on here. He may have inadvertently exacerbated his condition by not checking with his doctor as soon as he noticed difficulties. Hopefully he will fully recover like the vast majority of myocarditis patients.



By the way, my friend, a physician, just got an ER patient who got vaccinated but then sawed off his arm to remove "the chip.". Crazy.
Are you serious? I guess that's a pretty good example of the dangers of anti-vaccine misinformation. That is a pretty high price to pay for falling victim to hucksters.


Yup. Also a high price to pay for government dishonesty .
At some point, idiots have got to take responsibility for their idiotic decisions.


Agreed.
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oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

https://thecovidworld.com/florian-dagoury-world-record-holder-in-static-breath-hold-freediving-diagnosed-with-myopericarditis-after-pfizer-vaccine-possible-end-of-career/

Let me guess... He would have gotten covid, and it would have ended his career anyway? Shaking my head... Bring on safer vaccines.
What makes you think his breath holding career is over? Your link says he's still able to hold his breath for 8 minutes and he's still recovering so this sounds a bit alarmist.

For a world class athlete like him, probably would have been a good idea to wait a week or two before resuming activity. Hopefully he fully recovers and has no further complications. His story is pretty unique given what type of stress I would imagine holding your breath for 10+ minutes does to your body.

As to your question, yes, he was more likely to contract myocarditis from COVID than the vaccine, particularly if he were to start training before he recovered. The fact that he appears to have received it from the vaccine doesn't change anything. I would also note that it says he was diagnosed 40 days after his second dose so it's not entirely clear what's going on here. He may have inadvertently exacerbated his condition by not checking with his doctor as soon as he noticed difficulties. Hopefully he will fully recover like the vast majority of myocarditis patients.



By the way, my friend, a physician, just got an ER patient who got vaccinated but then sawed off his arm to remove "the chip.". Crazy.
Are you serious? I guess that's a pretty good example of the dangers of anti-vaccine misinformation. That is a pretty high price to pay for falling victim to hucksters.


Yup. Also a high price to pay for government dishonesty .
Are you implying this guy cut off his arm because the government was dishonest about microchips in vaccines?

It's not the government's fault so many people, like you, are spreading dangerous anti-vaccine misinformation. To your credit, you haven't yet started claiming that the vaccines have chips in them, but most victims of the sort of misinformation you peddle aren't savvy enough to differentiate between the various strains. So I would venture that the person who cut off his arm also believes in many of the same things that you regularly post. It's all part of the same toxic swirl.
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Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

https://thecovidworld.com/florian-dagoury-world-record-holder-in-static-breath-hold-freediving-diagnosed-with-myopericarditis-after-pfizer-vaccine-possible-end-of-career/

Let me guess... He would have gotten covid, and it would have ended his career anyway? Shaking my head... Bring on safer vaccines.
What makes you think his breath holding career is over? Your link says he's still able to hold his breath for 8 minutes and he's still recovering so this sounds a bit alarmist.

For a world class athlete like him, probably would have been a good idea to wait a week or two before resuming activity. Hopefully he fully recovers and has no further complications. His story is pretty unique given what type of stress I would imagine holding your breath for 10+ minutes does to your body.

As to your question, yes, he was more likely to contract myocarditis from COVID than the vaccine, particularly if he were to start training before he recovered. The fact that he appears to have received it from the vaccine doesn't change anything. I would also note that it says he was diagnosed 40 days after his second dose so it's not entirely clear what's going on here. He may have inadvertently exacerbated his condition by not checking with his doctor as soon as he noticed difficulties. Hopefully he will fully recover like the vast majority of myocarditis patients.



By the way, my friend, a physician, just got an ER patient who got vaccinated but then sawed off his arm to remove "the chip.". Crazy.
Are you serious? I guess that's a pretty good example of the dangers of anti-vaccine misinformation. That is a pretty high price to pay for falling victim to hucksters.


Yup. Also a high price to pay for government dishonesty .
Are you implying this guy cut off his arm because the government was dishonest about microchips in vaccines?

It's not the government's fault so many people, like you, are spreading dangerous anti-vaccine misinformation. To your credit, you haven't yet started claiming that the vaccines have chips in them, but most victims of the sort of misinformation you peddle aren't savvy enough to differentiate between the various strains. So I would venture that the person who cut off his arm also believes in many of the same things that you regularly post. It's all part of the same toxic swirl.


Let's get this straight. You are the one who peddles misinformation. You actually have a lot in common with this moron. You both can't tell truth from fiction. You just believe everything your media tells you.
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oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

https://thecovidworld.com/florian-dagoury-world-record-holder-in-static-breath-hold-freediving-diagnosed-with-myopericarditis-after-pfizer-vaccine-possible-end-of-career/

Let me guess... He would have gotten covid, and it would have ended his career anyway? Shaking my head... Bring on safer vaccines.
What makes you think his breath holding career is over? Your link says he's still able to hold his breath for 8 minutes and he's still recovering so this sounds a bit alarmist.

For a world class athlete like him, probably would have been a good idea to wait a week or two before resuming activity. Hopefully he fully recovers and has no further complications. His story is pretty unique given what type of stress I would imagine holding your breath for 10+ minutes does to your body.

As to your question, yes, he was more likely to contract myocarditis from COVID than the vaccine, particularly if he were to start training before he recovered. The fact that he appears to have received it from the vaccine doesn't change anything. I would also note that it says he was diagnosed 40 days after his second dose so it's not entirely clear what's going on here. He may have inadvertently exacerbated his condition by not checking with his doctor as soon as he noticed difficulties. Hopefully he will fully recover like the vast majority of myocarditis patients.



By the way, my friend, a physician, just got an ER patient who got vaccinated but then sawed off his arm to remove "the chip.". Crazy.
Are you serious? I guess that's a pretty good example of the dangers of anti-vaccine misinformation. That is a pretty high price to pay for falling victim to hucksters.


Yup. Also a high price to pay for government dishonesty .
Are you implying this guy cut off his arm because the government was dishonest about microchips in vaccines?

It's not the government's fault so many people, like you, are spreading dangerous anti-vaccine misinformation. To your credit, you haven't yet started claiming that the vaccines have chips in them, but most victims of the sort of misinformation you peddle aren't savvy enough to differentiate between the various strains. So I would venture that the person who cut off his arm also believes in many of the same things that you regularly post. It's all part of the same toxic swirl.


Let's get this straight. You are the one who peddles misinformation. You actually have a lot in common with this moron. You both can't tell truth from fiction. You just believe everything your media tells you.
LOL from the guy who pretends he's not posting misinformation by occasionally posting misinformation that normally doesn't meet his low misinformation bar.

You're the guy who posted multiple times that COVID vaccines have killed 20x as many people as all other vaccines combined despite knowing that it's a preposterous lie. And just a few weeks ago you posted a completely made up tweet about the Australian Navy having 1100 cases of myocarditis. You are just walking talking confirmation bias.

But please, continue to pretend that I'm posting dangerous misinformation.
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Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

https://thecovidworld.com/florian-dagoury-world-record-holder-in-static-breath-hold-freediving-diagnosed-with-myopericarditis-after-pfizer-vaccine-possible-end-of-career/

Let me guess... He would have gotten covid, and it would have ended his career anyway? Shaking my head... Bring on safer vaccines.
What makes you think his breath holding career is over? Your link says he's still able to hold his breath for 8 minutes and he's still recovering so this sounds a bit alarmist.

For a world class athlete like him, probably would have been a good idea to wait a week or two before resuming activity. Hopefully he fully recovers and has no further complications. His story is pretty unique given what type of stress I would imagine holding your breath for 10+ minutes does to your body.

As to your question, yes, he was more likely to contract myocarditis from COVID than the vaccine, particularly if he were to start training before he recovered. The fact that he appears to have received it from the vaccine doesn't change anything. I would also note that it says he was diagnosed 40 days after his second dose so it's not entirely clear what's going on here. He may have inadvertently exacerbated his condition by not checking with his doctor as soon as he noticed difficulties. Hopefully he will fully recover like the vast majority of myocarditis patients.



By the way, my friend, a physician, just got an ER patient who got vaccinated but then sawed off his arm to remove "the chip.". Crazy.
Are you serious? I guess that's a pretty good example of the dangers of anti-vaccine misinformation. That is a pretty high price to pay for falling victim to hucksters.


Yup. Also a high price to pay for government dishonesty .
Are you implying this guy cut off his arm because the government was dishonest about microchips in vaccines?

It's not the government's fault so many people, like you, are spreading dangerous anti-vaccine misinformation. To your credit, you haven't yet started claiming that the vaccines have chips in them, but most victims of the sort of misinformation you peddle aren't savvy enough to differentiate between the various strains. So I would venture that the person who cut off his arm also believes in many of the same things that you regularly post. It's all part of the same toxic swirl.


Let's get this straight. You are the one who peddles misinformation. You actually have a lot in common with this moron. You both can't tell truth from fiction. You just believe everything your media tells you.
LOL from the guy who pretends he's not posting misinformation by occasionally posting misinformation that normally doesn't meet his low misinformation bar.

You're the guy who posted multiple times that COVID vaccines have killed 20x as many people as all other vaccines combined despite knowing that it's a preposterous lie. And just a few weeks ago you posted a completely made up tweet about the Australian Navy having 1100 cases of myocarditis. You are just walking talking confirmation bias.

But please, continue to pretend that I'm posting dangerous misinformation.


Again, misinformation. Poor quote / misinterpretation. The death rate of covid vaccines are 20x that of any other mass vaccine, such as the flu vaccine. Your head is in the sand.
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Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

https://thecovidworld.com/florian-dagoury-world-record-holder-in-static-breath-hold-freediving-diagnosed-with-myopericarditis-after-pfizer-vaccine-possible-end-of-career/

Let me guess... He would have gotten covid, and it would have ended his career anyway? Shaking my head... Bring on safer vaccines.
What makes you think his breath holding career is over? Your link says he's still able to hold his breath for 8 minutes and he's still recovering so this sounds a bit alarmist.

For a world class athlete like him, probably would have been a good idea to wait a week or two before resuming activity. Hopefully he fully recovers and has no further complications. His story is pretty unique given what type of stress I would imagine holding your breath for 10+ minutes does to your body.

As to your question, yes, he was more likely to contract myocarditis from COVID than the vaccine, particularly if he were to start training before he recovered. The fact that he appears to have received it from the vaccine doesn't change anything. I would also note that it says he was diagnosed 40 days after his second dose so it's not entirely clear what's going on here. He may have inadvertently exacerbated his condition by not checking with his doctor as soon as he noticed difficulties. Hopefully he will fully recover like the vast majority of myocarditis patients.


Dude probably effed up his heart from holding his breath all the time.
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oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

https://thecovidworld.com/florian-dagoury-world-record-holder-in-static-breath-hold-freediving-diagnosed-with-myopericarditis-after-pfizer-vaccine-possible-end-of-career/

Let me guess... He would have gotten covid, and it would have ended his career anyway? Shaking my head... Bring on safer vaccines.
What makes you think his breath holding career is over? Your link says he's still able to hold his breath for 8 minutes and he's still recovering so this sounds a bit alarmist.

For a world class athlete like him, probably would have been a good idea to wait a week or two before resuming activity. Hopefully he fully recovers and has no further complications. His story is pretty unique given what type of stress I would imagine holding your breath for 10+ minutes does to your body.

As to your question, yes, he was more likely to contract myocarditis from COVID than the vaccine, particularly if he were to start training before he recovered. The fact that he appears to have received it from the vaccine doesn't change anything. I would also note that it says he was diagnosed 40 days after his second dose so it's not entirely clear what's going on here. He may have inadvertently exacerbated his condition by not checking with his doctor as soon as he noticed difficulties. Hopefully he will fully recover like the vast majority of myocarditis patients.



By the way, my friend, a physician, just got an ER patient who got vaccinated but then sawed off his arm to remove "the chip.". Crazy.
Are you serious? I guess that's a pretty good example of the dangers of anti-vaccine misinformation. That is a pretty high price to pay for falling victim to hucksters.


Yup. Also a high price to pay for government dishonesty .
Are you implying this guy cut off his arm because the government was dishonest about microchips in vaccines?

It's not the government's fault so many people, like you, are spreading dangerous anti-vaccine misinformation. To your credit, you haven't yet started claiming that the vaccines have chips in them, but most victims of the sort of misinformation you peddle aren't savvy enough to differentiate between the various strains. So I would venture that the person who cut off his arm also believes in many of the same things that you regularly post. It's all part of the same toxic swirl.


Let's get this straight. You are the one who peddles misinformation. You actually have a lot in common with this moron. You both can't tell truth from fiction. You just believe everything your media tells you.
LOL from the guy who pretends he's not posting misinformation by occasionally posting misinformation that normally doesn't meet his low misinformation bar.

You're the guy who posted multiple times that COVID vaccines have killed 20x as many people as all other vaccines combined despite knowing that it's a preposterous lie. And just a few weeks ago you posted a completely made up tweet about the Australian Navy having 1100 cases of myocarditis. You are just walking talking confirmation bias.

But please, continue to pretend that I'm posting dangerous misinformation.


Again, misinformation. Poor quote / misinterpretation. The death rate of covid vaccines are 20x that of any other mass vaccine, such as the flu vaccine. Your head is in the sand.
Where's your evidence of 20x the death rate? Oh right, you don't have anything other than unverified VAERS reporting which doesn't support the type of analysis you pretend to be performing. And the fraud continues.
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Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

https://thecovidworld.com/florian-dagoury-world-record-holder-in-static-breath-hold-freediving-diagnosed-with-myopericarditis-after-pfizer-vaccine-possible-end-of-career/

Let me guess... He would have gotten covid, and it would have ended his career anyway? Shaking my head... Bring on safer vaccines.
What makes you think his breath holding career is over? Your link says he's still able to hold his breath for 8 minutes and he's still recovering so this sounds a bit alarmist.

For a world class athlete like him, probably would have been a good idea to wait a week or two before resuming activity. Hopefully he fully recovers and has no further complications. His story is pretty unique given what type of stress I would imagine holding your breath for 10+ minutes does to your body.

As to your question, yes, he was more likely to contract myocarditis from COVID than the vaccine, particularly if he were to start training before he recovered. The fact that he appears to have received it from the vaccine doesn't change anything. I would also note that it says he was diagnosed 40 days after his second dose so it's not entirely clear what's going on here. He may have inadvertently exacerbated his condition by not checking with his doctor as soon as he noticed difficulties. Hopefully he will fully recover like the vast majority of myocarditis patients.



By the way, my friend, a physician, just got an ER patient who got vaccinated but then sawed off his arm to remove "the chip.". Crazy.
Are you serious? I guess that's a pretty good example of the dangers of anti-vaccine misinformation. That is a pretty high price to pay for falling victim to hucksters.


Yup. Also a high price to pay for government dishonesty .
Are you implying this guy cut off his arm because the government was dishonest about microchips in vaccines?

It's not the government's fault so many people, like you, are spreading dangerous anti-vaccine misinformation. To your credit, you haven't yet started claiming that the vaccines have chips in them, but most victims of the sort of misinformation you peddle aren't savvy enough to differentiate between the various strains. So I would venture that the person who cut off his arm also believes in many of the same things that you regularly post. It's all part of the same toxic swirl.


Let's get this straight. You are the one who peddles misinformation. You actually have a lot in common with this moron. You both can't tell truth from fiction. You just believe everything your media tells you.
LOL from the guy who pretends he's not posting misinformation by occasionally posting misinformation that normally doesn't meet his low misinformation bar.

You're the guy who posted multiple times that COVID vaccines have killed 20x as many people as all other vaccines combined despite knowing that it's a preposterous lie. And just a few weeks ago you posted a completely made up tweet about the Australian Navy having 1100 cases of myocarditis. You are just walking talking confirmation bias.

But please, continue to pretend that I'm posting dangerous misinformation.


Again, misinformation. Poor quote / misinterpretation. The death rate of covid vaccines are 20x that of any other mass vaccine, such as the flu vaccine. Your head is in the sand.
Where's your evidence of 20x the death rate? Oh right, you don't have anything other than unverified VAERS reporting which doesn't support the type of analysis you pretend to be performing. And the fraud continues.


I am only posting this because these are celebrity athletes. It pretty clear to all but the brain dead or fanatic that the health authorities in the United States are hesitant to blame the covid vaccine for any death. This is one example. There are several.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tampabay.com/news/health/2021/03/17/aubrey-huff-ties-vaccine-to-hank-aaron-marvin-hagler-deaths-no-evidence-politifact-says/%3foutputType=amp

I have posted other examples. You choose to disbelieve all of them because no federal authority will validate that the death was caused by the vaccine. The media covers this up as well. They are trying to protect us by hiding the truth.
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https://thecovidworld.com/florian-dagoury-world-record-holder-in-static-breath-hold-freediving-diagnosed-with-myopericarditis-after-pfizer-vaccine-possible-end-of-career/

Let me guess... He would have gotten covid, and it would have ended his career anyway? Shaking my head... Bring on safer vaccines.
What makes you think his breath holding career is over? Your link says he's still able to hold his breath for 8 minutes and he's still recovering so this sounds a bit alarmist.

For a world class athlete like him, probably would have been a good idea to wait a week or two before resuming activity. Hopefully he fully recovers and has no further complications. His story is pretty unique given what type of stress I would imagine holding your breath for 10+ minutes does to your body.

As to your question, yes, he was more likely to contract myocarditis from COVID than the vaccine, particularly if he were to start training before he recovered. The fact that he appears to have received it from the vaccine doesn't change anything. I would also note that it says he was diagnosed 40 days after his second dose so it's not entirely clear what's going on here. He may have inadvertently exacerbated his condition by not checking with his doctor as soon as he noticed difficulties. Hopefully he will fully recover like the vast majority of myocarditis patients.



By the way, my friend, a physician, just got an ER patient who got vaccinated but then sawed off his arm to remove "the chip.". Crazy.
Are you serious? I guess that's a pretty good example of the dangers of anti-vaccine misinformation. That is a pretty high price to pay for falling victim to hucksters.


Yup. Also a high price to pay for government dishonesty .
Are you implying this guy cut off his arm because the government was dishonest about microchips in vaccines?

It's not the government's fault so many people, like you, are spreading dangerous anti-vaccine misinformation. To your credit, you haven't yet started claiming that the vaccines have chips in them, but most victims of the sort of misinformation you peddle aren't savvy enough to differentiate between the various strains. So I would venture that the person who cut off his arm also believes in many of the same things that you regularly post. It's all part of the same toxic swirl.


Let's get this straight. You are the one who peddles misinformation. You actually have a lot in common with this moron. You both can't tell truth from fiction. You just believe everything your media tells you.
LOL from the guy who pretends he's not posting misinformation by occasionally posting misinformation that normally doesn't meet his low misinformation bar.

You're the guy who posted multiple times that COVID vaccines have killed 20x as many people as all other vaccines combined despite knowing that it's a preposterous lie. And just a few weeks ago you posted a completely made up tweet about the Australian Navy having 1100 cases of myocarditis. You are just walking talking confirmation bias.

But please, continue to pretend that I'm posting dangerous misinformation.


Again, misinformation. Poor quote / misinterpretation. The death rate of covid vaccines are 20x that of any other mass vaccine, such as the flu vaccine. Your head is in the sand.
Where's your evidence of 20x the death rate? Oh right, you don't have anything other than unverified VAERS reporting which doesn't support the type of analysis you pretend to be performing. And the fraud continues.


I am only posting this because these are celebrity athletes. It pretty clear to all but the brain dead or fanatic that the health authorities in the United States are hesitant to blame the covid vaccine for any death. This is one example. There are several.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tampabay.com/news/health/2021/03/17/aubrey-huff-ties-vaccine-to-hank-aaron-marvin-hagler-deaths-no-evidence-politifact-says/%3foutputType=amp

I have posted other examples. You choose to disbelieve all of them because no federal authority will validate that the death was caused by the vaccine. The media covers this up as well. They are trying to protect us by hiding the truth.
You're pointing to an 8 month old Aubrey Huff Instagram message that said "Hammering Hank Aaron...now Marvelous Marvin Hagler two legends dead after taking the #covid19 vaccine." as proof of anything? Have you read the other stuff Aubrey Huff says?

By the way, Aaron took the vaccine 17 days before he died in his sleep at home at 86. No hospitalization or other suggestion that he was ill. Not compelling evidence that it was the vaccine that did it.

I couldn't find when Hagler was vaccinated. From a news story at the time: "His son James "said his father was taken to a New Hampshire hospital after experiencing chest pains and difficulty breathing." Sounds like garden variety heart disease to me.
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oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

https://thecovidworld.com/florian-dagoury-world-record-holder-in-static-breath-hold-freediving-diagnosed-with-myopericarditis-after-pfizer-vaccine-possible-end-of-career/

Let me guess... He would have gotten covid, and it would have ended his career anyway? Shaking my head... Bring on safer vaccines.
What makes you think his breath holding career is over? Your link says he's still able to hold his breath for 8 minutes and he's still recovering so this sounds a bit alarmist.

For a world class athlete like him, probably would have been a good idea to wait a week or two before resuming activity. Hopefully he fully recovers and has no further complications. His story is pretty unique given what type of stress I would imagine holding your breath for 10+ minutes does to your body.

As to your question, yes, he was more likely to contract myocarditis from COVID than the vaccine, particularly if he were to start training before he recovered. The fact that he appears to have received it from the vaccine doesn't change anything. I would also note that it says he was diagnosed 40 days after his second dose so it's not entirely clear what's going on here. He may have inadvertently exacerbated his condition by not checking with his doctor as soon as he noticed difficulties. Hopefully he will fully recover like the vast majority of myocarditis patients.



By the way, my friend, a physician, just got an ER patient who got vaccinated but then sawed off his arm to remove "the chip.". Crazy.
Are you serious? I guess that's a pretty good example of the dangers of anti-vaccine misinformation. That is a pretty high price to pay for falling victim to hucksters.


Yup. Also a high price to pay for government dishonesty .
Are you implying this guy cut off his arm because the government was dishonest about microchips in vaccines?

It's not the government's fault so many people, like you, are spreading dangerous anti-vaccine misinformation. To your credit, you haven't yet started claiming that the vaccines have chips in them, but most victims of the sort of misinformation you peddle aren't savvy enough to differentiate between the various strains. So I would venture that the person who cut off his arm also believes in many of the same things that you regularly post. It's all part of the same toxic swirl.


Let's get this straight. You are the one who peddles misinformation. You actually have a lot in common with this moron. You both can't tell truth from fiction. You just believe everything your media tells you.
LOL from the guy who pretends he's not posting misinformation by occasionally posting misinformation that normally doesn't meet his low misinformation bar.

You're the guy who posted multiple times that COVID vaccines have killed 20x as many people as all other vaccines combined despite knowing that it's a preposterous lie. And just a few weeks ago you posted a completely made up tweet about the Australian Navy having 1100 cases of myocarditis. You are just walking talking confirmation bias.

But please, continue to pretend that I'm posting dangerous misinformation.


Again, misinformation. Poor quote / misinterpretation. The death rate of covid vaccines are 20x that of any other mass vaccine, such as the flu vaccine. Your head is in the sand.
Where's your evidence of 20x the death rate? Oh right, you don't have anything other than unverified VAERS reporting which doesn't support the type of analysis you pretend to be performing. And the fraud continues.


I am only posting this because these are celebrity athletes. It pretty clear to all but the brain dead or fanatic that the health authorities in the United States are hesitant to blame the covid vaccine for any death. This is one example. There are several.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tampabay.com/news/health/2021/03/17/aubrey-huff-ties-vaccine-to-hank-aaron-marvin-hagler-deaths-no-evidence-politifact-says/%3foutputType=amp

I have posted other examples. You choose to disbelieve all of them because no federal authority will validate that the death was caused by the vaccine. The media covers this up as well. They are trying to protect us by hiding the truth.
So your evidence of 20x the death rate of any other vaccine is widely known idiot Aubrey Huff? You should be ashamed of yourself, spreading a completely baseless rumor like this is disgusting.

And to think this is your starting point for justifying your fake 20x claim. I can't wait until you start posting tweets that even you don't pretend to believe like you did with the Australian Navy garbage.
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https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/new-zealand-reports-death-woman-after-pfizer-covid-vaccine-2021-08-30/
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https://drjohnhwi.medium.com/mrna-vaccine-related-death-by-destruction-of-platelets-85e86db72a78
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/third-man-japan-dies-receiving-095447377.html
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mercurynews.com/2021/06/25/teen-boy-dies-a-few-days-after-receiving-second-covid-vaccine-shot/amp/
 
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