Unit2Sucks said:
oski003 said:
Unit2Sucks said:
Zippergate said:
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There are still thousands of unvaxxed Americans dying per week but that's on them.
I'm sorry that so many people died because they believed in anti-vax propaganda but we can't change the past.
This would be hilarious if it weren't so sad. You have no idea what you're talking about. With the passage of time, the efficacy of the vaxx is negative for most of the people who have received them.
You still think ivermectin is more effective than vaccines right? When was your last bleach suppository? Or do your prefer HCQ with your morning coffee?
Why don't you tell us why 3,000 Americans are still dying every week from COVID, whether any of those deaths are preventable and what reasonable measures can be taken to reduce those deaths.
It is closer to a third of that dying weekly. Those 65+ unvaccinated are 4x more likely to die than those vaccinated. Those 65+ are 25x more likely to die regardless of vaccination status than those under 30. 10x more likely to die regardless of vaccination status than those 30-50. If you are 65+, you absolutely should have been vaccinated.
Where are you finding support for your claim that it's closer to 1,000 Americans dying weekly? Latest 7 day average from the CDC is 347, which as you know translates to more than 2,400 in a week. It's been bopping around between 300 and 500 for the last few months. I don't believe we've had a week with fewer than 2,000 deaths since spring 2021, when the first set of vaccines had been deployed and the variants had yet to take hold here.
I do agree with you that unvaccinated still are at higher risk, and would assume those unvaccinated that have already survived one or more bouts of COVID probably already have received most if not all of the benefits of a vaccine. I had assumed that we would eventually run out of fresh unvaccinated hosts who die the first time they catch COVID, but that hasn't been the case yet.
Zippergate said:
From Covid? Only in your darkest fantasies about the unvaxxed.
Yes, HCQ, Ivermectin and several other drugs are far superior to your gene therapies masquerading as vaccines. Besides their efficacy, they are actually safe. And for the vast majority of the population where the NTT is in the thousands for your vaxxines, side effects matter. There are new, peer-reviewed studies coming out on almost a daily basis which obliterate your vaxxines on a risk/benefit basis.
Since I answered your questions, please answer mine.
How many mice should a vaccine be tested on before it is deemed safe for the general public?
How many Americans have received an FDA-approved Covid vaccine?
Should government and private sector employees be forced to take Covid vaccines?
How about K12 and college students?
LOL that you are one of the few people left who haven't figured out that HCQ and Ivermectin won't help you with COVID. If you are wormed up, then by all means ask your doctor to prescribe you Ivermectin but stay away from the tractor supply store.
As for your last questions, I don't have a view on how many mice a vaccine should be tested on, nor do I know how many Americans have received vaccines approved by the FDA. I know that 0 have been prescribed HCQ or Ivermectin according to a label approved by the FDA and that you (and other victims of misinformation) still support those off-label medications. Given the state of Omicron, I no longer think vaccine mandates have a meaningful public health purpose. I've known far too many people who've contracted Omicron (whether boosted or not) and the only pattern I've seen is that the older someone is and the less vaccinated they are, the worse their outcomes have been. I would still recommend that people who haven't had COVID get themselves vaccinated so that they have some level of protection and that they stay away from snake oil off-label meds like HCQ, Ivermectin peddled by idiots. Perhaps next week they will be recommending tide pods or athlete's foot medication.
Still using the animal med slur on Ivermectin, eh. Billions of human Ivermectin patients, tens of millions for Covid and still in use today with great success in places where the health establishment isn't owned by Big Pharma, but never let a good narrative get in the way of the facts. Would you use FDA-approved Paxlovid, which has only one of Ivermectin's several mechanisms of action? Don't bother, Paxlovid doesn't work on the vaccinated which is why the vaccinated had to be excluded midway through the trial. lol
You obviously aren't even aware of the mice controversy w.r.t. the bivalent booster. Probably not aware that Paul Offit, one of the biggest vaccine shills in the world, voted against it.
Once again, you display your ignorance of the off-label drug landscape. Off-label use wasn't controversial until cheap, off-patent drugs threatened Big Pharma's vaccine racket.
At least, you no longer support mandates. But I find it hilarious that you say someone who hasn't had Covid should get vaccinated. You don't even realize you are now an anti-vaxx heretic.
Everyone should get vaccinated according to our distinterested, esteemed health authorities, multiple times, regardless of age or Covid status. C'mon, get with the program, anti-science troll.
You keep mentioning the number of deaths from Covid. Are you even aware that all cause mortality spiked in 2021, especially in younger age groups, remains elevated and cannot be explained by Covid? Are you aware that it's a thing even in countries where vaxxine compliance is extremely high? I guess we shouldn't be surprised. Even in Pfizer's hopelessly corrupted and compromised trial, there were 40% more deaths in the treatment group versus the placebo group after six months. LOOK IT UP.
It's really quite funny. Faith in the vaccine program is disintegrating by the day with scientists and doctors breaking rank admitting the obvious and you act like it's December 2020. Last one out the door, turn out the lights.