Vaccine Redux - Vax up and go to Class

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Breitbart News has reported that Poul Thorsen, the Danish researcher whose work has been used for two decades to dismiss any link between vaccines and autism, has finally been arrested in Germany after more than a decade as a fugitive.
Thorsen, 64, was indicted by a federal grand jury in Atlanta in 2011 on 22 counts of wire fraud and money laundering. Prosecutors allege that from 2004 to 2010, he stole more than $1 million in CDC research fundsmoney intended to study autism, infant disabilities, genetic disorders, and fetal alcohol syndrome. According to the indictment, Thorsen funneled funds into his own accounts using fraudulent invoices on CDC letterhead.
He has been on the HHS "Most Wanted" list for over a decade. Acting on an INTERPOL red notice, German authorities finally took him into custody in June. The Department of Justice is now working with Germany to extradite him for trial in the United States.
Thorsen wasn't just any researcher. He co-authored the infamous 2002 Danish study (published in NEJM) that became the CDC's so-called "gold standard" for dismissing any link between vaccines and autism. That paper was cited by the National Academy of Medicine, weaponized to shut down more than 5,000 federal vaccine injury claims, and is still rolled out by officials today.

https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/breaking-fugitive-vaccine-researcher
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Truly heartbreaking. Sorry for the OT here but let's forget all the vaccine stuff and please read these two articles about Jamie. Whatever the cause, we MUST do better.

https://jbhandley.substack.com/p/autism-is-beautiful-autism-is-heartbreakingly

I coach special needs basketball and soccer. I will never look at one of my non-verbal kids the same way again.

https://jbhandley.substack.com/p/i-was-so-wrong-about-autism-thank-c96
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PAC-10-BEAR said:



They had more of an argument when the consequences of catching COVID unvaccinated seemed more dire than they were in reality and the vaccine was promised to do things it couldn't deliver. Once we knew the vaccine was just a glorified flu shot and didn't prevent you from catching COVID anyway, it made all those people look stupid in retrospect.

I have more compassion for the non-medical people who were given bad info by the media and our public health officials than I do for our public health officials who should all be out of public health for life for lying about something this important. I once felt the way they did based on all that same bad information. The difference is that now, given all the information, I can see that I was looking at it the wrong way and change my thinking. Most of those people are too dogmatic to ever admit they were wrong.
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Zippergate said:

Truly heartbreaking. Sorry for the OT here but let's forget all the vaccine stuff and please read these two articles about Jamie. Whatever the cause, we MUST do better.

https://jbhandley.substack.com/p/autism-is-beautiful-autism-is-heartbreakingly

I coach special needs basketball and soccer. I will never look at one of my non-verbal kids the same way again.

https://jbhandley.substack.com/p/i-was-so-wrong-about-autism-thank-c96


Wow. That opens a huge window. Thanks for sharing.

A friend coaches special needs children on Long Island. His team was selected to throw out the first pitch at a Yankees game. They selected a member, they hand him the ball, and he throws a perfect strike to the catcher!
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sycasey
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smh
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"Health secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s handpicked slate of vaccine advisers"??
fark-em once twice three times (best)
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Kimmel was an above-average vaccine salesman.
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PAC-10-BEAR said:


Kimmel was an above-average vaccine salesman.


Ironically, Biden's admin would have had him cancelled if he was giving anti-vaccine monologues.
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Where has this "troubling data on safety concerns" been? Anyway, now that THE authoritative medical body on vaccinations, ACIP, has reversed course, will medical associations and institutions follow suit? Not holding my breath. Don't worry vaxxers, you can still get the vaxx. It's just not recommended. Science.

https://imahealth.substack.com/p/ima-praises-acips-unanimous-vote

The Independent Medical Alliance (IMA) applauds the unanimous, 12-0 vote by the HHS Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) to end the universal recommendation for mRNA COVID-19 vaccines for infants, children, and adults.
The vote, which restores the patient-doctor relationship by recommending the vaccines only through "shared clinical decision-making" consultations with a healthcare provider, came after panel members were presented with troubling data on safety concerns and injuries associated with mRNA vaccines.
"This 'vaccine' was rushed into distribution from its inception, with a median review time of just 21 days before approval," said Dr. Joseph Varon, IMA President and Chief Medical Officer. "There's now a flood of peer-reviewed research highlighting the dangerous error of this process. This is, by far, the most harmful vaccine ever administered in the US. Today's move is a victory for patient rights and transparency."

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"Don't worry vaxxers, you can still get the vaxx. It's just not recommended. Science."

Not by RFK Jr.'s handpicked "experts," anyway.

A lot of parents are putting their trust in Team RFK Jr. I wonder if they will feel raw about it if they turn out to be false prophets? If it works out over time, I will have to admit we have been oversold on vaccines. If it doesn't work out, then what? Any admissions?

Theoretically possible negative outcome from Kennedy policy:

Potential resurgence of vaccine-preventable diseases:

Measles: As of June 2025, the U.S. has experienced a near 20-year high in new measles cases, with some outbreaks resulting in fatalities, particularly among unvaccinated individuals. Weaker vaccine recommendations could exacerbate this trend.

Whooping cough (Pertussis): Cases have been on the rise, and recent deaths of unvaccinated infants have been reported. A decline in vaccination could increase illness and death, especially in babies.

Hepatitis B: Postponing or removing the universal recommendation for infant hepatitis B vaccination raises concerns. Prior to 1991, thousands of infants were infected annually, leading to a risk of liver disease and cancer later in life. Universal vaccination plummeted those numbers. Without a universal recommendation, newborns of mothers who were not screened or had false-negative results could be missed, leading to a rise in new infections.

Hib (Haemophilus influenzae type b): A severe bacterial infection that can cause meningitis, a historically fatal disease in children. Before the vaccine became available in 1985, Hib was a leading cause of death and disability in children. With the potential for the vaccine to be removed from the recommended schedule, there is concern that Hib disease could return in large numbers.

Polio: Although eliminated from the U.S., public health officials worry about its potential return if vaccination rates drop significantly.

Diphtheria: Once known as the "strangling angel," this serious respiratory disease could also re-emerge if vaccination rates fall among teenagers.

*If things go sideways, states like Florida will cook the negative stats, but the truth will get out.
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